Movie Mindset 01 - Tony Vision
Welcome to Movie Mindset! In this inaugural episode, Will and Hesse guide you through two of the collaborations between director Tony Scott and star Denzel Washington, Man on Fire (2004) & Deja Vu (2006). Join us as the ultimate auteur of the action-thriller meets the ultimate American leading man in these two propulsive explorations of justice, time, duty, depression, vengeance, destiny and sick-ass explosions.
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I first saw this movie at 11 watching over my aunts shoulder when I was supposed to be asleep, remembered it at 19 and watched it once, now I own it on disk and have watched it over 20 times since this episode came out, best movie of its type, The Mark Had Been Made is the best instrumental track ever
I’m starting my journey through MM and this was a great first ep. It’s crazy how Scott’s films track enormous world events - Russian imperialism in crimson tide, the patriot act in enemy of the state, etc. his suicide was a tragic loss to cinema
Yes, these films are good. But more importantly, they are awful
omg I need Will to watch Uptown Girls and for there to be a MM episode about it asap please. I vote Riding in Cars with Boys for a double feature Brittany Murphy ep…a girl can dream lol
Finally listening to the 1st MM episode. Never watched any Tony movies, but I agree with the dunk on Ridley.
17:10 okay watching this movie, I have been convinced.
Thanks for this- went on a Scott/Washington bender in our house and loved it. Ended with Unstoppable. Only thing- why is there a city of 750,000 people in Western PA? Anyway, thanks so much!
Great episode. Hate what you did to the terminator music at the end credits though. Garbage rendition of a sick movie song.
The Desus and Mero Denzel interview is verrrrry cool this made me have to rewatch, hard recommend
Just watched man on fire. Jesus that movie made me go through every single emotion known to man. I don't know why I never watched it before.
I find your failure to get the “I picked the wrong week to stop smoking hash” line as a reference to Airplane! disturbing
Yeah but in airplane he at least doesn’t say smoking glue…he sniffs it etc…. I’ve seen ppl snort vodka smoke all sorts of stupid shit Eat full boxes of blood pressure medication whatever weird and old fashioned way to get high And I ain’t never saw no man snort hash Now I isn’t saying it’s impossible I’m just saying that … Well actually. You’re right. That’s good characterization. The sex god is a nerd and nerds like airplane and they’re not cool and they don’t do drugs and it would make sense that if he is riffing on a quote from airplane the sex god would make a mistake. The boy and girl on this episode should be ashamed of themselves. It took me writing this comment to realize that. I apologize for wasting not only your time. But mine. I love this episode.
Rewatched Man On Fire and they forreal don’t make movies like that no more!the opening credits…every kill scene is him just torching people or places…Creasy keeps getting shot..I completely forgot how he was under arrest after the kidnapping…Denzel’s quiet confidence…Christopher Walken doing his best. A great film with a peaceful ending for Creasy.
Deja Vu: “…The kind of happiness that could arouse envy in us exists only in the air we have breathed, among people we could have talked to, women who could have given themselves to us. In other words, our image of happiness is indissolubly bound up with the image of redemption…” Walter Benjamin
What was with the scene in Deja Vu around 25 minutes in where Denzel and Val are standing around with a group talking shop while the camera swoops around with several cuts and in the background of each shot are computer monitors with women in lingerie in them. It feels like this was an era of movies that did easy-to-spot subliminal messaging.
Wait. I just went back to confirm this. It is around 26 minutes. Denzel is meeting with the special unit after the autopsy of Claire. Confirming her suv had been stolen. “Solve her murder solve the bombing” On three different screens we see a woman in black lingerie. I find this fascinating. Was I tricked into being attracted to ladies?? What is the message?
Wait does that Deja vu trailer have the music from the end of all the Saw movies? Also loved Hell on earth but I've been hyped for Movie Mindset since the announcement
Don’t know about that particular one, but a lot of trailers reuse scores from other movies yea
Talking about Bush era time capsules made me think of Jarhead, which is interesting to go back and watch. It's like at this turning point culturally.
Elle Fanning was the child actor who dropped her doll in Deja Vu, did they mention this?
one of the little things i caught during man on fire is the during the weapons purchase montage he they show him buying the rectal drug smuggling device with all the weapons and cell phones and a rocket launcher… and an ass pod. he knew then, that somehow, someway, something was going up someone’s ass and they probably weren’t gonna like it.
It's not my cup o' tea, but I can understand why people like silly, big-budget action movies. But to enjoy getting into the minutia of making them (unless you're a filmmaker yourself) let alone subjecting them to detailed analysis, and even then wanting to listen to others perform that analysis is so bizarre. Is there an audience for this sort of thing outside of a very small niche?
I think one of the main appeals of art criticism is that it could open you up to appreciate the care and craftsmanship put into something that you otherwise wouldn't notice. The genre of the piece in that case is kind of irrelevant.
Theme song is 👨🏻🍳😘
I just got done watching these two movies for the first time (writing this before I listen to the episode, which I’ll probably do tomorrow), and I think Tony Scott loved kitsch even more than he loved explosions, and I think we can all agree that he loved explosions like Bill Clinton loves poontang. That hackneyed shot of the girl dropping her doll in Deja Vu is pure kitsch, such a hackneyed tear-jerker. The shots of Dakota Fanning swimming in Man on Fire border on Epsteinesque, as pedo as the volleyball game in Top Gun was gay. Well, maybe not that pedo, since that was a really, really homoerotic volleyball game, but they were still some creepy shots. I got a Karen Greenlee vibe when Washington looked at the body in the morgue, so maybe Scott had a thing for pushing sexual taboos. Was Scott behind the camera when Linda Lovelace shot the movie with the dog? It would be fitting. Fanning gave the only really good acting performance in these two movies. The woman playing her mother was a dime, I’d never seen her before. Casting Jesus (or whatever that guy’s name is, Jim Christ or however you spell it) as the villain in Deja Vu was clever, and having played Jesus and also being a religious nut job in his own right must make his agent get loads of calls for playing villains since everyone wants to cast Jesus as a villain.
This needs to be corrected- The Hunger is 1000x gayer than Top Gun
Yo! Where can we hear more of Hess?
she co-hosts seeking derangements, and it's a grand old time :)
listened to this episode bawling my face off organizing the end of my cat's life, two thumbs up
That sounds completely gut wrenching. fwiw this fellow slop fiend is sending you as much love as is feasible via the web at this time ❤️
Will your the son my father wish he’d had
Just popped in the Deja Vu Blu-ray that I received from a Netflix red envelope today. Watching incredible mid-00s trailers for a Mark Wahlberg football movie “Invincible”, a Kevin Costner swimming movie, and now The Prestige. And now the “YOU WOULDNT STEAL A CAR” piracy trailer holy shit!!
Damn they really finessed us with the movie mindset ep huh
They call that the ol razzledazzle
my favorite thing about MoF is that it gives no fucks about plot logic and the emotional logic is heightened to absurd levels. like the explosion at the club. the reaction of the crowd makes no sense, tony is portraying the reaction of his audience. how he wants us to feel while creasy rubs out this part of the brotherhood. it rules.
this was great … lets fuckin goooo
A long time ago my mom referred to smoking weed as "taking a snort" so maybe it's some sort of boomer slang?
when does felix get his spin off podcast
He did time for our stories
Save our white daughters!!!
good podcast
LMFAO you did not have the boys make a cover of lets all go to the lobby you sick sickos
Oh fuck yes I'm so hype for this
Always loved this trailer for deja vu https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=khFEdsBEVU0&pp=ygUPZGVqYSB2dSB0cmFpbGVy
So good
I saw Man On Fire about a decade ago and I just realized that the entire time I was listening I was picturing "The Kingdom" as well. "Wait didn't the car blow up during a softball game?"
not far enough in to see if you talked about this but Denzel is the one who likes to do weird shit to food right? Like if you're paying attention he'll be putting salt in his coffee or eating an orange like an apple, etc
I put a little salt in to coffee along with cream and sugar it makes it taste better, you need to season everything
Serious comment, I don't know any of the movies, but if there are any that star Jack Nicholson, we need a Branson Nicholson bit please thank you.
No but really Uptown Girls really is a great film, you watch it trying to put your finger on what this Brittany Murphy / Dakota Fanning vehicle is - it’s absolutely not a romcom, it’s not exactly a coming of age movie, ultimately it’s Brittany Murphy’s mind palace in conversation with itself, soothing her own anxieties. Not literally, but that’s the vibe. It’s phenomenal.
Fuck anyone shitting on my Scotties, they hit and missed but always swung. Fuck all your bunting asses.
Went to the optometrist and they told me I got that Tony/Tony Vision 😤
So I’m supposed to believe Dakota Fanning is half Mexican.
Looks like Hitler youth.
I’ve really been looking forward to this and it’s great. I love Tony Scott. Man on Fire is an incredible film and the style Scott cooked up there and with Deja Vu were cranked up to 11 for Domino (2007). Domino gets a ton of hate, but fuck ‘em, because I love it. Hesse is a fantastic co-host. Looking forward to the next episode.
Out of Time (2003) also feels like it could have been directed by Tony Scott. Fun to watch Denzel play a character that’s a sleaze ball.
OOT GOAT
Hook it to my veins!
JC saw his bullet ridden car at the ferry. He didnt have a feeling. He knew!
I saw both of these films and Unstoppable somewhat recently. Although I wasn't big on Tony Scott beforehand, I thought they were all very good. Deja Vu in particular was excellent, I'm glad you picked that one, as much as I love Unstoppable. It's such a shame Scott died when he did, he was at the peak of his talent. Btw, is the Pelham 123 remake good? I haven't heard much about it
Just a heads up the Pelham remake was dreadful. Travolta was funny in a cringe way.
Dope… not gonna lie, this is the only one imma listen to. You can guess why, lol
Great episode. My one note is that, speaking as a Mexican national who has spent a lot of time with family in the country, the Mexican police, sadly, are about as bad as they’re portrayed in the movie. Mexico City’s level of violence is unrealistic, but many parts of central and northern Mexico law enforcement has so thoroughly been corrupted by organized crime that folks don’t call the police to report crimes. The movie is uncharitable, to say the least, to Mexico generally. Sadly, the portrayal of the police isn't that far off the mark.
Deja Vu is incredible but omg Man on Fire, despite its awesome tonyvision, made me wanna self-harm so hard
Don't do that!
I just watched 'Deja Vu' a few months ago on a DVD that I ended up selling.
only half an hour through and loving it, my personal favourite Tony Scott films are Man on Fire and Domino (which I always think of as Woman on Fire) but Deja Vu is up there too
A+ Walken impression
In so happythank you hesse and will
This was good
I got time. You don't, but I do.
Yo, I fuck w/ this first episode
Wait why did they use Hello Zepp for the trailer of Deja Vu?
we love hesse! we need more hesse!
Montenegro??
This pod gave me acid flashbacks of watching both these movies at least 5 times a year on FX after middle school
I wonder what the inside of an old couple’s home would look like after the backblast from an RPG. My man JW Creasy definitely knows.
Just an excuse for Will to slurp down five mega sized diet cokes and a trash bag full of popcorn
Denzel Washington in A Tony Scott film 'The Mark Has Been Made': https://youtu.be/wIQTxXeUCa8
The "I picked the wrong week to stop smoking hash" has to be a reference to Airplane, or whatever movie that was spoofing.
Zero Hour!, but yeah, definitely more a reference to Airplane! rather than the original
I saw Man on Fire in the theaters and it was fantastic. RIP Tony!
Top tier content
this rocks
Lets fucking GO
Let the boy watch.
I love movies! 😸👍
wtf is Will wearing
Sam Neills famous insane asylum digs from in the mouth of madness
Deja Vu was released in December of 2006, yet Will kept saying it was a 2007 film. Great ep other than that though
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anyone interested in my two tickets to tonight's movie minset show at 9:30? face value @ $21 each
Movie Mindset is when you just describe the entire plot of a movie on your movie podcast.
2h15m is a bad sign
will say this word again, "Debussy"
If you are doing rourke then you got to at least briefly talk about the rainmaker. It’s perfect casting.
You picked the wrong brother.
Now I have another pair of podcast perverts to listen to while I wait for episodes of sleazoids to drop, hell yeah.
No
Denzel is always good but Man on Fire really sucked IMO
I disagree, it was one of my favorite movies from 2004, along with Kill Bill Vol 2 and Million Dollar Baby
Very excited for this I love Hesse
I'm so hard right now
Can’t wait to listen to this. Made me remember the verhoeven episode with Adam McKay - peak chapo there. More verhoeven more McKay
Podcast for the new American century started using this for their film eps. Thieves.
will’s face for the cover photo is sending me lmfaoooo
literally walking around my house going "mov-ie mind-set" *clap clap clap clap clap*
Get Rich Evans on you hackfrauds.
Great episode! Maybe the second best leftist film critique podcast, behind Horror Vanguard.
It’s been one episode, hypey.
Christman better be on this pod
The original Man on Fire from 87 with Scott Glenn and Joe Pesci is excellent too, IMO!
We get it you watch movies
Holy shit, 2 hrs?! Sick!
Yesssss been waiting for this
So excited for this
The bemusing adulation Tony Scott gets from the Chapo Boys is their most enjoyable wrong opinion
???? tony scott is the GOAT
the people love and demand more Hesse!!
love this hosting combo
I'm gay for movies and for Will and for Denzel and I'm just absolutely queer as fuck for Hesse
You just love to see it. Let's fucking go!!!
The popcorn 🍿 can't be beat
love y'all thx for keepin the slop spigot spewing topnotch slop ✨❤️
Leeetttssss fffuuuccckkinnggg gooooooo!!!!
😲
At cinemacon rn, can't wait to listen
will tell me your favorite steak preparation ive never heard it before
inquiring minds would like to know
I attempted to watch Deja Vu but it sucked.
I take it back.
I'm pro airline episode as well!
Wrong pódcast bud
I’m ready to be enlightened.
Cool cool cool
