1049 - Trapped Between Borders feat. Ettingermentum (6/29/26)
Josh Ettingermentum is back to recap Zohran’s hostile takeover of the New York Democratic Party, with his three endorsed candidates cruising to victory. We talk about this new wave of left insurgency throughout the country, what it means for the sclerotic Democratic establishment and the stillborn Abundance movement, and what we make of Zohran’s time in office overall. Plus: John Fetterman fires shots at Chapo and Hasan.
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The image of John Fetterman as Radahn cruising around in his Toyota makes me giggle
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Coming back here because I just picked up some firecracker poppers for my girls for the 4th. All day I keep yelling Josh’s line to my kids “WHERE ARE MY POPPERS?!”
I think Felix should have ran as the liberal Zionist alternative
Fuck ettingermentum
Dropping the “s” comes from Atlanta dialect AAV. Listen to real black Atlantans say “gas” and you likely won’t hear the “-s” and the dropped “-s” is often aspirated.
I used to hear that in Kansas City all the time too, though it seemed like a ’90s/early ’00s thing
Chapo still being chained to the demsucc tip is damning to the labor struggle in the imperial core. It’s pretty pathetic actually. 💅🏽
freed from the morality check of Matt Christman, Chapo is finally ascending to the coveted status of Compatible Left alongside other counterrevolutionary heroes like Epstein associate Noam Chomsky
Please please Will and Felix review Uwe Boll's citizen vigilante i would be so happy if you did
They heard your pleas
I love that NYC has a university named after eating pussy
You forgot the link to the CUNY JJ MA Economics program Weirdly though, the page to the program details is broken on the jjay.cuny.edu site (Access denied ??) https://www.jjay.cuny.edu/academics/graduate-programs/ma-economics
This guy has an incredible ability to put me to sleep.
what if instead of throwing people in concrete boxes we had system that addresses the root causes of antisocial behavior
I dunno, that sounds like some treasonous, commie shit. I don't care how many people have to be victims of crime, as long as I'm given a socially acceptable outlet to champion the punishment and emiseration of people who don't think like me.
Dropping the s is a symptom of americans evolving into their final form: becoming dominicans
q lo q there buddy
I was one of those listeners that joined the John Jay program, I’d definitely recommend if you have any interest in gaining or sharpening your analytical skills. It will change how you see most of the world around you!
Zardoz Mizrahi
Can’t believe we didn’t leave this guy and his awful analysis in 2024
I love you guys but the coverage of NYC elections was shockingly innaccurate. You should not use this guy as your expert here.
Super lib ettingermentum who chastised people for publicly stating they weren't voting for Kamala/dems because of a genocide. Absolute degenerate POS who should not be on this pod.
I bet The Mayor Of New York City is really happy to hear felix does like a few things about him
It's our favorite guest, Matt Y-DSAglesias
I'm not all that into this vulgar electoralism but Darializa will immediately be the best looking person in US government when she wins which I know is going to lead to some really amazing horny-madness from conservatives so I say let's goooooo
This was the best episode in.... um... too long
Oh, nice, another episode with the mealy-mouthed young man who has never been right
for whatever reason, anytime I’ve seen/heard Matthew Yglesias’ name mentioned, I’ve apparently just been picturing him as a slightly modified Drew Pavlou build in my head
Awesome needle drop at the end
Claire Chavez is another Kamala clone and as we all know - Kamala would have been so much worse
Felix is cooking 💰
i think "da big gah" means "thanks big guy". it makes sense in the context of the video, because the white kid makes his exit after saying it, and the guy who sold him the pineapple spears says "appreciate it". i think about this a lot
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Chuck Park in Flushing had neither DSA nor Mamdani support, and still almost caught Grace Meng.
nowadays mentioned
Making fun of da bih gah kid is inherently making fun of African Americans
Not really? Most black people don't sound like that. Lol
a good example for the FTC would be to go absolute carpet bomb nuclear against Ticketmaster, send a few executives to the electric chair for Fees Crimes and you'd immediately jump up 20 points
I was thinking about becoming a paid member again but I saw this and realized it's not worth it
When I see Ettingermentum in the episode title that’s an easy skip for me.
John Jay alumni reporting, incredibly proud of the econ department may have to go back for it.
Ettingermentum article this week was about best AOC alternatives and was a great read. Even got Graham Platner in there by reader request 💝
Lol
This guy is a total fraud. Chapo so washed
@1:13:30 Matt Yglesias and the Sparts already have Rawlsian overlapping consensus on age of consent
More Ettingermentum! Less Zitron!
The AI bots like ettingermentum? But why?
The center-right part of the Democratic party has one strategy: The Homer Simpson boxing strategy. They take republicans beatings (those beatings damage the public) and wait until they grow tired and then gently push them down. Trump is Mike Tyson. Zohran is Moe.
okay but why in God's name did zohran endorse Lander
I'm a bit confused by how some people (namely Felix) don't get Lander's utility, which is to delegitimize Zionist smears of Zohran as an antisemite. One of Zohran's talents is that he's really good at making his haters look absolutely insane, and Lander helps him do that. Also, Lander supported Zohran after it was clear he wouldn't be the mayoral nominee, and he didn't need to do that. He easily could have done what Warren did to Bernie in 2020, but chose not to.
Colorado and denver have a large latino population
Yeah. Melat's district is about 30% hispanic
jonsh fettengermantum
discounting IHIP as not paying close attention is a bit insulting. They've been showing out and had El-Sayed on. "Yes, and" politics to make hay while the sun is shining
u drop the S cuz u can’t type ass wo the mods grounding you .. gahh is a derivative of ahh which means ass
These guys are talking about politics AGAIN? When are they going to get back to creating music.
young white people nowadays do aave in a minions accent
I often find myself thinking of the phrase “don’t let perfect be the enemy of good”. I just find it amazing how there can still be a tepid attitude towards Zohran because he didn’t do EVERYTHING. Like, going up against the NYC police department is, quite literally, the most dangerous thing you can do. The guy is building things. He’s being a politician. He’s maneuvering. But he is most certainly on the right side and making massive changes that will ripple through the country.
I agree with you, and I trust his instincts. But we have to hear criticisms, or else we turn into corny fanboys talking about Zohran's brilliant 11-D chess moves.
Guy who named his meme account after some special election dem doofus who lost (and comes from Hormel's anti union management) is oddly fitting as the Justin Cass replacement. Avanza!
In a close election a lot of things have to click, however, I thought the Knicks Championship-Zoran Three Candidate endorsement ad was an absolute work of genius. e.g. perfect-timing, very economically way of getting three ads for the price of one, associating winning with a team, as opposed to winning like a mercenary. The message was upbeat and the presentation was novel. It was also a way of defining DAC before the opposition had the chance to do it for her. I thought that ad was the next level version of the AOC launch ad in 2018. That ad style has become so ubiquitous that even Andy F-cking Burnham used the same exact narrative template in a campaign launch ad in 2026 for the Makerfield by-election in the UK. NYC obviously has some of the greatest creative talent in the world, but compare those those two ads and media campaigns with the paint-by-numbers crap that Democratic candidates pay billions too consultants for every cycle. These candidates aren't just running circles around the establishment in their media campaigns, they are also investing in field operation, and clearly have the benefit of running candidates that inspire genuine enthusiasm from armies of volunteers. Of course, they don't have the luxury of taking every shot either, and are smart about the way they chose their opportunities.
Based David Cross lookin fucker
quick scanning the comments here, are his takes as wrong as when they had two californians on to talk about california and every single thing they said was off?
goggle is free
That Jay st cripwalk bit was p funny
so uhhh a while ago some guy was trying to dunk on me by calling me etiennegermentum and I found it so good I changed my screen name to it for a while but it caused a lot of confusion so I changed it back Ahhh oopsie! Sorry bout that!
Ettingermentum is a great example how you can't be the nerdy polling guy without being a little cringe/uncool. Left-wing Nate Silver is still a Nate Silver. Not a hater, just calling balls and strikes
You have rather dated ideas about how you avoid becoming "cringe/uncool" or, presuming you have finished high school, how your stunted notions fare in adult society.
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Dianne morales wasn’t the dsa candidate in the 2021 primary. There wasn’t one. Crazy how uninformed everyone was on this episode
Too many people complaining about ettingermentum, not enough people complaining about Felix’s god awful mic quality, please fix it or get a new one Jesus Christ
Can i interest you in a quadrophonic lp of Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon, you stunted audiophile?
Chavez 🤔
A little surprising that Will and Felix didn't pay any attention to these races. Like you guys fucking live there lol
I respect this henry guy in the comments riding on chapos dick so hard it would make alexis texas blush
First instance of Indian guy voice on Chapo?
Let the bots flowwwww
DSA SWEEP!!!!! $1,000,000,000,000 TO ELBIT SYSTEMS!!!!!!!!!!!
Will pronouncing Espaillat’s name correctly I think is the first time any of them have got the double Ls correct in any Spanish name lol
Quality audio from Felix when?
By my count, there are a lot of NYC transplants in these comments that took offense to the term "NYC transplants." If you're looking for nothing but glazing of the candidate you specifically canvassed for in a small congressional or city council race on a podcast that is devoted to making fun of politics, you should probably unsubscribe.
Ettingermentum? Uhh… isn’t that the guy who said my wife only has a 14% chance of orgasming during sex? Yeah I don’t know how he still has any credibility after that one
I know you like ettingermentum and he's good at riffing, but he is very wrong on many things. I listen to guests who claim to have knowledge for their knowledge (and I expect it to be at least somewhat accurate). If you wanna riff, bring on the seeking derangements crew.
Shout out Chris. Hardest working man in podcasting! I hear you, I see you
You guys should get Jennifer Welch on.
People get so mad about this guy you would think he’s a neolib demon, but in reality he just believes in polls too much.
Ettingermentum co-host when?
When the nukes fly.
Ettingermentum is back? Oh boy, can’t wait to read all the normal comments 😅
Everybody needs to calm down.
Yggy Yggy Yggy, can't you see, sometimes your words just hypnotize me. And I just love your centrist ways, guess that's why they broke and your Substack pays.
I found this to be an enjoyable episode. I will partake again.
Will might have the worst NY sports bonehead takes out of nowhere. Yeah man Dominicans HATE the Red Sox
You have to unlock the camera for the fetterman boss
Can't be bothered to say Darializa's name. This midwit is not a great listen.
There’s no “left insurgency” in the us lol be serious
Claire Valdez actually pronounces her name Chavez, it’s a regional thing. Y’all are telling on yourselves 💅
Ok Gabriel Iglesias is actually the king of Bakersfield and a fat icon, put some respect on that thang and don’t compare him to the evil east coast yglesias
Who tf is chavez do you guys mean Valdez? Claire Valdez
Polite request to bring on Michael Lange to discuss NYC-DSA topics in the future!
Was just thinking that. Love Josh’s stuff but he clearly wasn’t that well informed on the races (getting Valdez’s name wrong, assuming Chuck was DSA). Felt that if both Josh and Lange were on it would’ve been a much better episode.
Ettingermentum is a 23 year-old poster who made one right call in an election four years ago and has labeled himself The Election Guru Substack Guy ever since, even after his much-ballyhooed 2024 predictions came to naught. That by itself isn't disqualifying, but IMO being a Platnerite and a booster for Dem-party entryism definitely is.
Ettinger needs to spend way less time on twitter. That weird rant he did about DAC is indistinguishable from a right winger losing it in the twitter replies.
I knew it was going off the rails when the second thing he said about her was that she's an adult Muslim convert, an aspect of her personal life that I've literally only seen moronic chuds like dave rubin comment on.
Who is responsible for booking the show’s guests these days? Nothing against Ettingermentum as a person, but what unique knowledge/authority on this subject does he actually have besides just being another poster What I particularly don’t understand is: If Chapo wanted to have someone on about this topic, both NYC-DSA and DSA-National have designated spokespeople who are easy enough to contact This all strikes a similar cord as to the ill-advised decision to have Nithya Raman on the podcast. I enjoy the show, but I hope Chapo’s guest-bookers make a point to in their decisions.. be a little less internet/Twitter-brained and more attuned to who is actually doing things IRL
Imagine tuning into a podcast and wanting to hear from a spokesperson lmao
That fetterman quote makes me think an anti-Hasan style smear campaign against chapo would go so fucking hard. Greenblatt might finally acknowledge Felix exists.
CUNY MENTIONED CUNY MENTIONED CUNY MENTIONED
Can someone explain to me how it's possible that the audience of a podcast called chapo trap house can be so insufferably humorless?
??? No one is complaining about the jokes or bits
You guys, this is a riffing podcast, not a politics podcast. Ettingermentum can riff
"They like a guy so they invite him on the show" is such a simple concept that so many people struggle to grasp
Show me on the doll where the poll zoomer touched you
Bro is crying because we have a red triangle poster in congress now 🔻🔻🔻🥳🥳🥳
Saying this as a field lead for Claire… Chapo is cooked. These guys are so out of touch with the most important socialist insurgent movement in the country and can’t even get the last name right of the most pro labor candidate in modern US history. Pathetic — these guys have fully Bill Maher’d. Fallen completely out of touch with the leftist vanguard
Lol who's the vanguard? You?
for what it's worth I think you guys are way better than Hasan
Who is Chávez? My god man a candidate’s name is the first thing to research
1:00:41 White milennial yuppie "doggo" posters are the DSA candidates? Try again. Take a look at the slate of DSA-endorsed candidates and tell me how many are PoC, first-generation Americans, tenant organizers, social workers, working class people, etc. Cope-ingermentum needs to go.
I was a field lead for the Darializa campaign and was following the other DSA New York races closely and I can confidently say Ettingermentum did not do very good research into these races at all. You guys gotta stop having him on, its p embarassing when he can't even get Valdez's name right and calls her Chavez for the first half of the episode. I think you guys should try to find experts who are more local to the races they're covering.
It's genuinely insulting how little he apparently prepared for this appearance!
another tuesday mogged by guys
I'm still a defund the police guy. If you want a better society for working class people then there's gotta be a reckoning with the prison industrial complex
Will chuckles warmly at 0:33
Felix’s vision for a left presidency being someone that’ll go after the UFC and make the fights better is so funny
It's okay everyone he's just merging Valdez and Chevalier like Brangelina
When Felix said “Scarface for opium trade” I was thinking he meant playboi carti DL gay guy gangster
Valdez boys her name is Claire Valdez not Chavez
That was wild lol
We need more liberal midwits who botch every electoral prediction they make on the pod
I loved her take on Ukraine
fetterman is so brain damaged he thinks it’s 2018
The Hasan glaze at the end is killing me lol
Do you know what friendship is like
"John Fetterman fires shots" Damn I didn't know he had that kind of fine motor control to operate a firearm, let alone fingers small enough to fit into the trigger guard.
Very triggering cover photo
I'm sorry, this guy has such a poor understanding of these races it genuinely feels like malpractice to air his thoughts
You're right, they should have you on and laugh at all your awesome jokes
Her last name is Valdez not Chavez
Pretty embarrassing how often the election guru gets Claire Valdez's name wrong. Almost like he doesn't really know what he's talking about
Virgil wouldn’t have fumbled this bad
Darializa sounds awesome
Man this guy is getting on my nerves
brian quinby would have survived mumbai, all he needs are some shoes and a fitted
I guess I wasn't as annoyed by this guest as a lot of other people seem to be until this episode. The part where he starts talking about DAC is rough. Almost stopped listening when he brought up her "anti-Ukraine" stance. She's fucking awesome and deserves all the praise.
It’s funny because he’s linking Ukraine to progressivism and I swear I have never heard/seen of any progressive/gen z coded person on my socials from HS and college ever mention Ukraine on their stories or during in person conversation. Like these are the people that post about feminism on their stories, post about ICE sightings, income equality, anything progressive. Ukraine is such a non issue for anyone under 40 that didn’t grow up playing Civ
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I see an ettigermentum ep, I skip.
10 years on and Felix’s mic quality is still a hissing butthole
All time unc moment for Will not knowing what “dat bih gah” means
This guy is so annoying he has Matt yglesias politics
Whenever I see people complaining that ettingermentum should be banned because he got a prediction wrong years ago I’m reminded that some people listen to podcasts much differently than I do
i don't know what you mean by "banned," i'm just baffled that this dude apparently has actual fans when his literal only claim to fame is being confidently wrong. and it's not like he was just spitballing, he is a polling wonk, he himself is claiming to have some greater objectivity and insight which he provably does not have.
Add another Woah Vicky mention to the tally
they could've interviewed someone smart or funny or who had an interesting viewpoint or any practical value that someone could respect but they got a guy whose best tweet is a 7/10
Ettingermentum fucks???
Not hearing enough glazing of Darializa here for my tastes
Liberal wonk ettingermentum
That’s genuinely incredible that one ad spot by Amber (which I remember!) saved a grad program and led to people now teaching and doing the good work. So cool. People should continue the pipeline!
Valdez! Not Chavez!
You will always have me when everyone else is hanging with Hassan. Cheers, fellow grotesques!
Chris whats up with the infinite pod brother I cant read and i simply must know how the book ends
Were they switching between “Chavez” and “Valdez” or was that two different people?
They mean Claire Valdez. Will misnames her first as 'Chavez' then the guest correctly calls her Valdez, and then, insanely, switches back to calling her 'Chavez' after getting it right.
There are absolutely New York Dominicans who are Red Sox fans because of Pedro and Ortiz
"Who's your daddy?" will never get old
Eyyyy it's me, Michael canceliano.... I heard you predicted an election wrong... sure would be a shame if someone unplugged your XLR cable...
Oh boy another episode with the funny poll guy! I can’t wait to see how normal the comments are! :)
Amazed by how often everyone is getting Claire Valdez's name wrong
Can’t believe how many times he calls Valdez Chavez. Chevalier and Valdez are two separate people….
white guy with an indian accent opens up exciting new opportunities for white boys everywhere
Like a modern Fisher Stevens, or even a Hank Azaria. I hope Felix does his Chinese or Mexican accent next week.
“Your flesh will embarrass you” - Woah Vicky
“I’m battling with my flesh” - Woah Vicky
“What shall I render?” - Woah Vicki
Damn. You can be dumb as fuck like me and get in and afford that master’s program.
Pod save America but for slovenly man-children crackazoids… time to call it quits.
Bye bye 👋👋
I’ll second that “white guy who can pull off foreign dialect well” is an easy in with people. I learned Northeast Chinese slang and it makes me, like, their favorite guy automatically Cab driver: “why did you marry that foreign guy?” Me: ”你可拉倒吧 ” (fo’ getta ‘bout it) Cab driver: “aye :D !”
Ettingermentum is a little bit of a charlatan. Mike from Pensilvania has a better record predicting electoral stuff
Wow, what a weak and terrible read of both Nydia Velasquez AND Antonio Reynoso. Will! Felix! Maybe interview a local, one of these days? I'd be glad to explain more about why they/he lost their own actual base neighborhood. Hint: not just gentrification. Not even "just" Palestine, but what Palestine symbolizes to most vulnerable people: displacement and dehumanization, locally. It was nice to hear Will come out as team NIMBY but it's really a problem for the broader Socialist agenda how polluted (NY)DSA itself is by a YIMBYism that displaces it's self-criticism into pretending AIPAC is the whole of the problem. Reynoso didn't lose Brooklyn because he didn't cut off Zionism early enough: he lost because everyone knows he sold out to deed-thieving, child sex abuser protecting, ignorance demanding Hassidic Developer Money, and this was for Nydia as well as Antonio the main political accomplishment. Nydia didn't do shit for Los Sures. She was so not-that-beloved that only by making a deal with a schism in Satmar was she able to get elected in the first place. Notice that this time, both factions rallied around Antonio, full stop-- and Julia Salazar sat the race out rather than risk being on the losing side (which she now, by implication, is)
Why would they have you on the show? Who wants to listen to that?
why can i only imagine the chapos like leo in one battle after another cheering on their daughter hasan
Felix's voice is getting DANGER CLOSE to sounding like RFK's. The shakiness is intensifying.
Norm incoming
The good ending is John fetterman falling into the fountain he just pissed in
Yes wicked. Back from work about seven so after tea about 8?
they foresaw Fetterman in a fromsoft game, he’s King Vendrick from DS2
David Cross is looking well
MUCKRACKER
Slight digression
Why do people hate Ettingermentum? I like that Chapo has a dirtbag Nate silver.
Ever since I learned he’s like 23 everything about him kind of connects. I think he’s very libbed up with good intentions and obviously is tistic about politics, but he’s a dem populist at heart and that can get annoying. At least he’s Gen Z and not millennial or he’d be begging for Corey booker to be the 2028 dem nominee
Is this episode straight (deragotory) or gay (laudatory)
Is it me or does Josh seem genuinely upset that Darializa won?
Yeah, sounds like he’s angry that someone with actual left integrity got through where people like that aren’t supposed to, seemingly because of posts, but I don’t think that’s what upsets him. Also called her some kind of anarchist, which I think is how confusing it gets when you are only able to understand a political landscape through hYpEr-electoralism
Brother you gotta get these names right, also Chuck Park(guy against Meng) is goated, he isn’t DSA but he ought to be in 2 years
Lived in flushing my whole life and I was so happy to see chuck park signs and hype in the kissena park neighborhood--some of the same houses that had grace meng signs up last time. It was such an underestimated campaign. He really did have a great platform and spoke so well about real policy. Pretty stark contrast w how Grace talks---like she doesn't even wanna try at alllll lol so fckn tired of her. Sry I ranted
is ettingermentum out of the penalty box already?
Is the guest calling Claire Valdez “Chavez” a bit or is he just a moron?
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It’s very funny to watch how mad the cosplay commies on here get about Ettingermentum. Judaean Peoples Front assholes
SPLITTERS!
we can have a little hope, as a treat
It’s so funny how the Democratic Party establishment is unable to state or articulate any politics
People are already forgetting Abundance, but any real heads out there remember One Billion Americans? Folks?
Real heads rock with Matty Y
Ew, Josh is a girl?? EWW
Felix begins speaking at 1 minute and 40 seconds @Hello?
Felix stops speaking at 1:33:37
Everytime I see Josh's last name, I think of that one episode of Courage The Cowardly Dog where a bad guy says, "Get me Hohauser!" & then I think of Will saying that.
isn’t this that guy who was so wrong about the 2024 election that it should have ended his social media presence
And then tried to pretend it never happened immediately afterwards. Dude is straight up shady/untrustworthy
I was not prepared for how irritating Matty Y's voice was going to sound in addition to how punchable his face already was
Wonder what centrists ettingermentum will try pushing this episode. Insane he is still credible with the online left.
hell yeah dem cuck poll dork; skipping this one
How old are you man
Honestly every couple of weeks I still get stunned by the fact that a chapo interviewee is one of the most popular politicians in the American empire
Slop
Awww man ettigermentum again?
yeah he reads from the bible
Smoking that dutch pack
Fart
Late tonight
Fuck yes new Josh episode I love you Josh
Surviving
I’m NOT gay
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