1011 - National BurgerReich Association feat. Pablo Torre (2/17/26)

This was a really great episode. Thanks again for having Pablo on.

legit rec: pablo, you should read CLR James’ Beyond a Boundary! talking abt like. being an arch conservative is something i think he gets into, its a book about the cultural implications of his life as both a cricketer and a leftist and gets into sports more broadly!

not to be the friend who is too woke but there actually isn’t even the beginnings of a “legitimate” grievance or concerns broadly about trans women in sports - it’s abundantly clear at this point that the trans people who are participating in these athletic meets are doing so genuinely, and there is yet to be a single reported case of a Lady Ballers style cynical fake trans athlete. it’s a non issue and even litigating it a tiny bit is a total surrender from “nothing” to “something”. never let these people put a foot in the door when they haven’t earned it - that’s literally all this has ever been. it’s just another venue to justify broader regimes of intruding on the privacy and autonomy of trans people. i like pablo and i assume, based on what i know about him, that he has invited this bit of “well, to be fair…” type rapport out of a desire for perceived circumspection/fairness to other speakers, aka in good faith, but you just can’t treat bad faith with good faith. it doesn’t work, and the first step is being at a place where you can recognize it and call it out if you want to be the best ally you can to people actually impacted by this bullshit

Did I miss it or did you talk about the fact that Epstein and Bannon blatantly funded and promoted a culture war against Trans people and it is now in black and white in their released emails? Or did we just ignore that part and participate like their puppets?

https://youtu.be/UDptikEeAGY?si=Vah6gYNl9ZYLCzC4

Young Bomani

this was a particularly interesting episode. love when Pablo comes around

Soji Shimada’s novel “murder in the crooked house” is another Japanese thing that is extremely preoccupied with golem. However his ‘Tokyo zodiac murders’ are a much better read

Pablo is the fuckin' man.

Tony Kornheiser, go on Chapo

Pablo: [perfectly explains how the ski jump dick injections work, no confusion at all and zero analogies needed] Felix: "so it's kinda like this random plane part my autistic ass knows about"

mit is just hogwarts for future war criminals innit

43:45-48:00 Pablo Torres speaks his heart and his mind. Have we reached peak sports?

Next Pablo On Chapo: Movie Mindset discusses HBO'S 1997 feature, Weapons Of Mass Distraction, and how it probably inspired Steve Ballmer

10:48 Felix was T H I S fucking close to telling the tale of how Imperial Japan fucked with "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" again.

The current updated and scientifically backed studies showcase no competitive advantages for post "male puberty" trans women that have the same hormonal levels as the average cis woman.

I believe the trans panic has been used to distract religious conservatives in this country from protesting gambling being legalized everywhere. Christian conservatives used to do stuff like that. They didn't just mobilize against civil rights. Now they're completely controlled by capitalism and used as stooges. All they get mad at is trans athletes, imagrents, and the fact that kids are being abused outside of churches and Christian homes

Probably shouldn’t have had a conversation about the medical details of transition with a guest who doesn’t know shit about it, considering the hosts also don’t know shit about it

Pablo is goated. 🫡

Pablo 2 - Wos 0

The Atlantic just published a piece by Robert F. Worth on how cool & smart Rob Dreher is. Bonus points for mentioning the time he saw a woman possessed by a demon in an Upper East Side apartment. I'm gonna need y'all to get on that ASAP. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Okay are you fucking kidding me 🤣😭 this is moronic. The “male puberty,” advantage is idiotic on SO many levels. Western medicine has *barely* studied cis women; so there’s just not enough information. But anecdotally any life-long athlete would be able to tell you it was idiotic. It is all very crackpot Eugenics. I’m so glad you mentioned the fact that cis men coaches are who consistently are the rapists. What the bathroom bans and policing of gender in general all ends up making cis women unsafe— such as the long legacy of women athletes being forced to undress and be examined by doctors to prove their gender Also the idea that the NBA was ever somehow a bastion of racial equity is silly AF when you look at the finances.

The sports-as-last-monoculture thing is interesting. What happens in a sports game is, at least in general, widely accepted to be a shared experience that everyone can agree happened, even if your feelings on it differ or you have a different interpretation of what it would mean. Scoreboards and stats and ample audiovisual recording with commentary and thousands of people simultaneously observing it in real time makes it a lot harder to claim fakery in the same way as any other current events. So it's kind of alarming that Adam Silver thinks it would be good if AI destroyed that

The same way that sports is circus for the masses I think the arguments within them are circuses themselves especially in the age of social media and especially about trans athletes; these discussions exist just to be had. That's why the discourse never satisfies, you're not going to debate your way out of parties using minorities as scapegoats they are going to do it anyway. It's part of the circus for idiot American politics. It exists as a cultural rally point for political strategy, overall cynical. The mouth breathers will consider it honestly and try to "steel man" the argument as if it's really about anything sincere from the other side where power resides, unwitting dildos for political forces that are just trying to culturally sweeten austerity. Waste of time

As a F1 and FIFA fan, I for one simply cannot believe that the NBA would be corrupt. Two/three years ago we watched an Aramco facility get bombed by the Houthis in the background of the Saudi GP. Not a fucking peep from those drivers, GMs, and certainly not from Mercedes lmao.

Go hawks

The fact that we’re even seriously talking about trans people’s hormonal advantage is ridiculous. Cis people also have varying ranges of hormones, I’m a cis woman but I have high testosterone, should I also be excluded by your guests standards???

I think that in the conversation of fairness in sports regarding trans participation it should be remembered that excluding trans women on a biological ground has also been used as a cudgel against cis female athletes who have naturally higher testosterone, have intersex characteristics, or are just deemed not feminine enough.

I can't put it down to one source, but there have long been rumors about Golden State Warriors owner Joe Lacob hooking his players up with Silicon Valley investment bullshit, and I believe KD put money into that drone company (or one drone company) while he was in GSW. The stories vary from "Lacob said 'Lemme invest that $10 milly for you,' he doubled the money, and I don't know shit about it" to "I know exactly where he put it"

Deni Avdija heard "free throws" and said "FREE?"

Disappointed they didn’t edit in Lil B’s classic - Fuck KD

The kick off to the Ohio trans bills was two grandparents at a school basketball game who made a complaint to the state. Turns out, kid was just bigger than the others and "mistaken" as trans.

Hey dickheads, what about the Unrivaled League?!?!

Felix mentions Dybbuks at 11 minutes

Probably required to sign an nba contract 2-5% baseline investment in IDF

You guys need to clip Pablo’s ‘often they fucking suck at sports’ line at the end of the episode.

Can we fucking spare the “poor innocent Ukrainian civilarinooos 😭” bit, like Ukraine isn’t blowing up cafes and bridges and flying suicide drones into surrendering soldiers. A peer-peer war does not rank with what the IOF is doing in Palestine

When someone on the US’ side is saying their enemies actions are “well documented” it actually means they’re “dubious at best”

There’s currently a controversy over a trans person competing in women’s darts. Darts!! Absolutely ridiculous

I gave a shit about Jesse Jackson, but I didn't anticipate his death weighing on me like this

I really hate how the “issue” of trans women in sports is presented as a question of fairness. Sports aren’t fair!! They never have been! Some people have certain genetic gifts that others lack that allow them to be better at sports. Derrick Henry was running over everyone in high school and no one said he shouldn’t be allowed to compete. No one says the same thing abt Michael Phelps despite having Marfan and a genetic defect that gives him more endurance. It’s only ever said abt trans women because people don’t think our identities are legitimate. The “advantages” you would get from male puberty are also held by some cis women (i.e bone structure, build, etc) but no one questions them because those are just genetic gifts. Similar to any “advantages” a trans woman would have after going through hormone replacement therapy.All of this stems from transmisogyny and not actual science and I think framing it as a “debate” that needs to be had is stupid

I relate to Felix's remembrances of goofy things I've said/done in years before and then wanting to kms over something no one else remembers.

I'm not into sports, but whenever I hear about the concerns Torre brings up, out of nowhere I become extremely protective of sports

Ugh 🙄🙄🙄as a trans woman all the trans athlete in sport stuff is just stupid

truly shocking how the same people who spent the last decade frothing at the mouth screaming at trans teenagers for including pink and blue lines on a school mural are the ones who are happy to forget about the epstein files now that we know they’re basically the trump files. it’s almost like they’re sadistic ghouls who don’t actually believe in anything but inflicting pain and suffering on anyone not on their team. you guys called it a decade ago

The bootlickers on r/NBA are dismissing the draft lottery rigging for mavs story. Fav comment: “you really think EY would risk its reputation as the lottery’s auditing partner?”

how has Felix never seen the darren rovell MLK tweet? that’s gotta be top five all time

Go sports!

Would you want a little dick for less drag? A big old hog like an extended arrestor hook also introduced a ton of drag. Doesn't make sense

Olympic pilled and ready 🎿 🏒 ⛸️ 🏅

ok so we’re not gonna mention Jordan grabbing on a little boys booty cheeks?

I actually know Adam Bry, the founder of Skydio. They’re not only selling drones to Israel, but also the US military and police departments across the country. His LinkedIn byline is pretty cute though, “Life is short—build flying robots.”

Surprisingly no commentary on LeBron’s Israel commentary. Are Chapo and Pablo in LePocket?

Guest is unlikeable in a way that's hard to explain

Such a great point Pablo made about the NBA being able to get away with all this shit because it knows the media won’t question it. A huge factor in that was ESPN’s decision to let real journalists like Pablo walk and replace them with former athletes like Marcus Spears and Kendrick Perkins who are just there for comic relief. ESPN put out so many great 30 for 30 documentaries in the 2010s that did a phenomenal job educating me on politics and phenomena in our society as a teenage sports fan. Now it’s just LeBron, Mahomes, and Ohtani highlights on a nonstop loop.

A good way to tackle the trans athlete question is to completely do away with college sports scholarships

"murder innocent ukrianian civilians" lmao

Killer close out with the mid-1970s NBA on CBS theme

Tbh I'm glad Felix got the fighter jet autism but not the job at Lockheed-Martin that sometimes goes with it

Love when Felix takes the most basic phenomenon possible and compares it to some type of intricate plane design that you’d have to be a 45 year air force veteran to even know exists

I'm realizing this sheer certitude of many people that mediocre male athletes only need to transition to become female champions is kinda like Cartman thinking he's gonna ace the special olympics. And also, peope who buy this narrative need to realize East-German female athletes from the 1970s weren't unaware they were doped with steroids and they got pretty pissed off when they found out.

Someone needs to get Felix to one of the periodic Japanese productions of Fiddler on the Roof

The NBA politics are like Bill Burr politics: american exceptionalist, classic liberal civil rights advocacy

In a world where everything is kayfabe, we are living a Phillip K Dick novel.

RIP Tom Noonan. I think Will and Hesse should do a special Movie Mindset in his honor. Manhunter and, I dunno, The Monster Squad.

6:07 in Felix needs to be benched until he goons out his fighter jet fetish

I feel like the transition Pablo is talking about happened in formula 1 sometime around the hybrid rules change in 2014. The media company that controls the sport and the teams involved have never been more profitable and the racing gets worse and worse every year

Street Fighter should be in the Olympics, but specifically only 3rd strike or SF4.

Pablo Torre makes me feel a genuine sense of relief when I hear a guy this connected talk about things we all have felt for a while between the intertwining between politics and sports. We all see it but he can actually back it up with gum shoe reporting, and he’s fucking brilliant at it.

If anyone needs Chapo LA tix let me know, will send over at face value

damn they're early as fuck for thursday's episode

Everytime the show is late I’m worried something bad happened to the chapo boys

It isn't just the top-tier pro sports being corrupted but youth sports has also been destroyed by high costs of rentals and fees, declining free public amenities, loss of extracurricular school sports, and the pseudo-professionalization of youth rep teams. Sports is destroying itself root to branch.

RIP Tom Noonan, too.

ja should go by his first name it goes way harder

So the episodes do always come out on Tuesdays, right? That wasn’t my imagination?

We are Jontay Porter we exit the game early

I loved this episode

In Austria if you live in an alpine province kids in Highschool do alpine skiing, cross country skiing, and even ski jumping in regular Highschool sports class in winter. One of the reasons these provinces have an obesity level like Japan.

For Winter Olympics enjoyers please check out Hermann Maiers crash(on YouTube f.e) in the Olympics in Japan 1998, he won a gold medal the day! after that crash, and for that will always be a legend in Austrian sports.

and RIP Tom Noonan

I didn't know that RCD Mallorca attacking midfielder Pablo Torre had so many takes on the sporting scene here in Pedophilistan

Jim Rome was so based when he asked David Stern “respectfully, respectfully, respectfully, many people are talking about the officiating being rigged…”

Adam Silver looks like Bat Boy from Weekly World News.

RETVRN Greek statue guy furious that the frotting in Heated Rivalry is age-appropriate.

Holographic MLK card made me spit my drink out all over my face

Love Pablo Torre

Felix begins speaking at 1:00 on the dot

I’m too straight / gay for this sports shit.

gonna be real here I don't have an opinion about whether trans women should compete against cis women in sports but more importantly I don't think I'm the right person to be adjudicating that question, we're discussing a miniscule number of people who just want to live without constantly being targeted for one fucking thing after another so the last thing they need is a dumbass who tricks computers into thinking for a living making decisions which affect their lives

Torre's liberal false equivalency between selling drones to the IOF and selling wifi routers to russia is gross, go join C14, or Tornado, or Azov champ

I think the tough part about talking about 'scientific advantages' of testosterone exposure in regards to us trans women is that there is no way to not end up at segregation in sports. Cis people have all sorts of hereditary advantages, hormonal issues, etc. Sports are more about access to resources and who hit the physical lottery for their sport. In my opinion, its just validating the panic by even asking if there's anything that benefits someone who was basically forced to be exposed to a hormone that they had no part in choosing, only to take a chance on something that will simultaneously shatter and save their lives. Any quarter on this issue is support for genital inspection day lmao.

there's a youtuber i watch called s1apsh0es who made a video about "the dam of legitimacy," though his video was specifically about nascar, where people respect an organized sport because it is perceived as legitimate. fans can trust that there is regulation, there is organization, that the officials are making fair calls; balls are balls and strikes are strikes. i think that's a lot like what pablo was saying. if the dam breaks and loses legitimacy then it all falls apart. nascar broke the dam of legitimacy and that's why viewership and ticket sales tanked hard since the late 2000s. if people start seeing the nba as illegitimate then it's going to fall to shambles.

I own so much ubiquiti equipment fml lmao

Supposed "genius" Will "Megameat" Menaker misuses "lay" (should be "lie") several times early on in ep. Made me a little queasy. First comment btw

"Trans women can't compete because male puberty gives you an advantage." "Ok so can they get puberty blockers?" "No."

People have to stop being surprised that mega millionaire jocks with a high school education are not erudite left wing activists.

The Winter Olympics is about Norwegian people's feelings

I want to say, I live in Japan and have done so for several years and I’m sorry to inform Felix but this ‘the Japanese are weebs for Judaism’ really isn’t true. Most people don’t know what a Jewish person is or what they might be known for, and I’ve even heard of some fairly boilerplate Euro-style antisemitism in Japan. I know Felix has some favorite examples of Japanese people loving Jewish people but he’s really overstating it.

The Los Angeles Clippers are truly a cursed franchise. Still embarrassing themselves even with Donald Sterling out of the picture.

Besides Miriam Adelson there’s also Micky Arison (Miami Heat) and Larry Tanenbaum (part owner of the Toronto Raptors). Before Adelson arrived there were rabid Zionists helping to call the shots.

Trans woman (and athlete) here: I appreciate the attempt at a nuanced discussion about trans athletes, but your automatic assumption that men and bodies that have gone through male puberty are automatically superior at most sports misses a lot. This male-centric view of sports is part of what created this mess in the first place. Trans women have written a lot about this and I would go listen to what they have to say about it. Also just having the "debate" and accepting the premise that a debate needs to be had at all about this is playing right into the trap the anti-trans right has set for you. There are so fucking few of us that even if we were all sports goddesses with chiseled masucline bodies (which is not even close to reality), we still would not have the numbers to meaningfully dominate women's sports. The whole conversation is a sham and a trap and we DO NOT need to argue with the right about it on their terms at all!

Bummer that this came out before LeBron went full Israel today.

Was this before the Swiss announcer put the "Israeli" bobsled guy on blast before blandly pointing out he came in last

Fuck yeah, we're about to Find Out™️©️®️

Pablo back Lfg

Virgil got confused about what kind of Asian he was a committed seppukku several years ago. Rest I. Peace

The trans athlete panic really did line up perfectly with America hitting its weimar republic tailspin after Obama

Happy Mardi Gras!

Sports will always be cool

sports are washed, only one step up from NFTs at this point

FOR CHESS?

Pablo torre for president?

RIP JESSE!

As a state worker I appreciate chapo recognizing public holidays.

New sexuality just dropped

Wait, are we the burgers?

The Jews own Texas’ basketball team loooool

Ski Dicknology

Fuuuuk

Here comes more curling slander, Canada didn't cheat they just grazed it - people have been doing it forever.

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Blake Snell is very online

motherfuckin hockey is right there!

my cocomelons are linking & building <3

I felt like a baby bird waiting for it’s mother to feed it

This reich will fail because they don’t even know how to keep their distractions interesting.

Happy Lunar New Year

oh baby. fresh slop straight fresh out the pot.

"WHERE ARE MY TREATS!?!" -John Podhoretz

Chablo torre house

The Life Of Pablo

It’s okay the ep was late Chris we love you dearly babygirl

NICE

chapo is old news

Who up late acidifying they penis

Hope you're all well. I suppose there was a public holiday?

Yall slackin

Why tf were yall so late

Was so close to getting on the news, NEVER DELAY MY SLOP

I suppose I can stop masturbating for a little while to listen to this

The radicalization of Pablo torre

Episode is late. Trillbilly’s would never

First

My burger late