991 - Occupation: Public Figure feat. Seth Harp (12/1/25)
Author and journalist Seth Harp returns for an interview about the National Guard shooting in D.C. We analyze the accused shooter, his time in covert “Zero Units,” and we also speculate about the ramifications of Pete Hegseth’s double-tap order in the Caribbean. To close things out, Will and Felix talk about Bari Weiss’s plan to return America to the reasonable center and react to the viral Oklahoma University essay on why God made man and woman different.
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Comments (168)
Making stupid people a protected class is the logical conclusion of David Horowitz's particular interpretation of identity politics. If conservative ideas represent "ideological diversity," then teaching someone a new thing is obliterating their culture. They can imagine themselves as victims of a liberal residential school system just because they have to learn at a college.
Bellingham is not a “small town” lol
What was the song at 32:00
audience limited - when soldier say no coming back
Great episode. Would love to see Chapo resume their 50 states series but turn the focus to who should be the "royal family" of each state as discussed in part 2.
Will’s gotta just be fucking with us with these pronunciations at this point
Part two pls
What was the song that played after the Seth Harp segment?
Audience Limited - When Soldier Say No Coming Back
This Ohio University student "controversy" proves that what conservatives want, more than anything, is to have what they believed DEI to be, but for white people. Every time we have a news cycle about conservative aggrievement it's always some white irradiated dingus complaining about how their mediocrity isn't being coddled. Riley Gaines made a career out of being pissed that a trans person robbed her of placing in the upper-middle of the pack in a swim competition. This new dunce is trying to launch a career from the ashes of her sub-literate screed because , out of all the other white bread stupids failing their way through college, she got the golden ticket of having a professor whose membership of the second class means their excellence is okay to obliterate to save a birdbrained white girls feelings. They should all be breaking rocks in Alaska.
I remember the episode where will called Dana loesch a trainable which was memorable because I hadnt heard that word since the early 90s
Rod Dreher on false memory syndrome.
Purpose for AI: 60 Minutes eps with Chapo characters.
52:16 you mean an ontological commitment to identity politics
Maybe 10 years ago there would at least have been some attempt to quote a theologian in that essay. "Thomas Aquinas belived this", "Martin Luther understood this", etc. But I'm not convinced she even understands that the bible as a thing that can have multiple interpretations, which to me is the scariest part.
Seth harps tweet about us tropps vs Israelis is so dumb
Very interesting personal anecdote from Will about his grandfather. The German military saw American soldiers as other soldiers though. When we just bomb people from miles away much easier to just dehumanize them. Years of drone warfare and saturation bombing campaigns have numbed us to the suffering of untold millions.
TPUSA doesn't have to try because it's not actually about the essay, it's about getting the trans TA fired and making trans people a liability for employers scared of a random lunatic causing them to make the news
Americans are so poor they only have one gender that they have to share between all of them. Children weeping and wailing crying to their moms "When will it be my turn with the gender?!"
I know that it’s a technical thing that makes the second strike serious but the way people are talking about this strike as if it’s the only one that is an attack on “defenseless” is so stupid. Every single one of these strikes are on defenseless people, they’re in shitty little drug boats they aren’t combatants
Absolutely agree, there is no “threat” to be neutralized in any one of these cases
27:30 - A B-17 is not a Liberator, it's a Flying Fortress
Speaking of felix’s stupids studies I went to high school in Appalachia and a girl in my science class was once convinced you could be shape-blind the way you could be colorblind
It’s not exactly comparable to color blindness but if you get brain damage, you can get visual agnosia where your brain can’t recognize shapes even though your vision is fine.
She doesn’t realize there are more than 2 genders because Caleb Williams left OU in 2022.
Kristi Full Neck-y??? 👀 👀 👀 Is that anything? Do I have something here?
My grandfather was actually prosecuted for his Christian faith, for refusing to be drafted to Vietnam and claiming conscientious objector status. The government was convinced he was lying and prosecuted him. What can these other "Christians" claim as actual discrimination?
Why the fuck does will pronounce charismatic like that
Care-Rizz-Matic. Where do you think we get the word rizz from???
Does anyone happen to have the prompt for the essay that was talked about? It sounds to me like the instructor had a bad prompt on a personal issue that was a required writing assignment. As a writing teacher, I will admit that I get bad responses on small assignments sometimes, but usually I can blame my own prompt. You can shit all over an undergrad as much as you want, but sometimes the bad instructor has to share the blame. This teacher sounds like a graduate student with little experience, which I have sympathy for, but may not make the best prompts for student responses. I think that should be taken into account. Also, I'd never give a student 0 points for a bad essay; the convention in academia is giving at least some points for a response and feedback on why the student didn't meet the expectations of the assignment (and the opportunity for revision). It sounds like that was missing from this story.
It is probably missing from the story because it is miniscule compared to this student and her family attempting to claim they were oppressed for their faith and turn it into a national news story. I have been in the same position as you and agree that bad prompts from (overworked) inattentive instructors are part of the equation for shitty writing outcomes. But that is really irrelevant if the student wants to launch a national campaign on the legitimacy of this essay. I highly doubt that some polite feedback on sourcing would have made them less of an entitled shithead. Again, speaking from experience.
18:30 Opioids aren't close to a leading cause of death for US adults https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/leading-causes-of-death.htm
It’s the leading cause of death for US adults 18-45.
Plot twist: essay was written by Grok
I ran across Lee Malvo and Jon Muhammad circa 2001 I’m shitting myself rn
My dad was a contract pilot for the CIA in Congo in the '60s and they did exactly the same thing to him, I have a folder full of letters back and forth between him and the CIA where he is trying to get them to acknowledge the fact that he worked for them and they refuse to do so. This went on for years.
Please clip the part about the college paper onto YouTube.
america, the land of the royal stupids
teach shoulda gave that paper a 5/25 for having 5 paragraphs.
When I saw the pic of the OU stupid, what struck me was her vacant, bovine like stare. Absolutely NOTHING going on up there lol
I appreciate Mr. Harp's take on the Cuban Gusanos. I was shocked that the Atlantic magazine way back in 2008 ran a long story about Cuban terrorism in Miami and South Florida during the 70s and 80s, including bombing a Cuban plane with their national Olympic Fencing Team, killing all on board. (And one of the bombers under Bush Sr. was let into the US later and protected for his terrorism.) Anyway, the Atlantic magazine is tied to the Atlantic council and is a vile mouthpiece of Empire as most Chapo listeners likely know. Recent heads of it were Jeffrey Goldberg, a Canadian who volunteered to be an Israeli prison guard at a children's prison (one can only imagine his activities) and then David Frum became the chief Editor to reward him for Bush Jr's "Axis of Evil" speech . . . but this article covered how the Cubans would threaten to bomb or kill anyone who didn't synch up with their mad spittle-flecked Cuba hate, killed some individuals. Glad that he's covering the massive drug issue in Afghanistan too, as it ties to little Narco Rubio, the chief Gusano pushing to invade Venezuela, with Cuba targeted next (US will not honor the 1962 JFK- Khrushchev pact that it cannot again invade Cuba as it failed at in the Bay of Pigs.) So we all know that Little Marco lived with his sister and her husband, one of the biggest S. Florida drug dealers bringin mass amounts of cocaine into the US and later served jail time . . . Excellent ep, thank you gents.
I'm getting deja vu about the college essay thing. Didn't Chapo cover another story during the first Trump administration about a sub-literate conservative student claiming discrimination?
Was it the ginger who claimed she didn’t get into Texas because she’s white?
I would probably kill myself if my master's application essay was publicly released.
Stadium vendor voice: "ONE GENDAAAA THERES ONLY OOOONEEE GENDAA"
I went to a VERY small private, all-women’s college in Boston(because I was both too dumb & poor for Smith, or Wellesley). It was, basically, a party school - that would do school-sponsored keg parties with dollar drafts, the beer was UNLIMITED(because that never ended badly?) and would shuttle people over from other schools. So that tells you what was actually important at my school. My pitch e-mail, for my senior thesis on the legalization of prostitution, was longer than her entire essay. I want to thank TPUSA & Samantha Fulnecky for making me look like a fucking Rhodes Scholar. My God. Dis bitch is dumb.
I hear you in Missouri, Felix, I hear every word, and you are not wrong
I love that somehow women being in college isn't antithetical to "traditional gender roles" anymore.
For a growing number of people on the right, it is
A+ reading series this week. Gonna revisit all the reading series to chronicle the decline of the USA
BELLINGHAM MENTIONED‼️
In the funniest way imaginable
Damn, can you imagine a Democrat having the balls to prosecute war crimes? I can’t. Here’s hoping though.
Will shares a fascinating, relevant bit of family lore about his war hero grandpa, and Felix butts in with a half-remembered factoid about his current special interest like a 6-year-old.
🧩
“I believe trying to change the world is only going to do more harm” what’s the opposite of liberation theology? Theological arrest?
How likely is it that someone in the Trump admin saw the the opening act of the 1994 film Clear and Present Danger and is using it as a 1:1 roadmap for how a president should navigate a scandal connecting him to a lifetime friend who was killed in some very illegal very sordid affair? Because the "blowing up speedboats in the caribbean" as a foreign policy objective is otherwise completely drawn at random, but would be perfectly coherent to a dimwit with netflix and a penchant for 1990s state department-issue jackoff fantasies.
What’s that music at the end?
It sounded at first like Bolero by Ravel but I don't think it is
Fentanyl isn't "the number one cause of death for American adults."
I think the stat is “accidental” deaths. So yeah, wrong
“God is strong like man and pretty like woman” implying that god is a super buff drag queen
MUSCLE 👏🏼 MOMMY 👏🏼 YHWH MUSCLE 👏🏼 MOMMY 👏🏼 YHWH MUSCLE 👏🏼 MOMMY 👏🏼 YHWH
In another 5-10 years (or less) it's going to be Azov guys doing this shit
I doubt well even have to wait that long. 2-3 years max and youre going to see a major drug/weapons gang being run by former azov and right sector goons. Im forgetting the namr of the latin american gang that was ex special trained at the school of americas. But basically that except Eastern Europe based.
https://youtu.be/UYF55IHDwLE?si=g_Pxio-L0cLn5Nzt this is the video of that traffic stop. Seths right, you can tell the dudes been in some shit. 10,000 of these guys just slowly going mad is kind of troubling.
As someone who lives in Bellingham, all slander is appropriate. This place sucks.
I mean on the plus side you got quick access to great shopping across the border…and ummmm, well theres a school and I guess you have a decent co-op thats way to overpriced. But hey, tax free booze if you cant cross the border!
In another generation, those kinds of stupids will be exactly like all those illiterate Hicks on dirt bikes in the west bank.
I just heard a little bit of that essay and I think the professor would already be justified in suplexing that student through a desk. It’s Oklahoma so one of the other students can probably do the “BAH GAWD!” thing.
Another banger “Will mispronounces something repeatedly” episode. (I find it endearing)
Check out Kristi’s website. Talk about a TPUSA stage mom. Hahaha: https://fulneckylaw.com/2020/07/about-kristi/
Midwest mom jumpscare
To be fair, U-Boat crews tended to be less ideological than just about any other unit in the Nazi military. It's a lot harder to enforce BS rules on a metal tube in the ocean
Hell yeah, Boomer fuckin Sooner baby, love that my alma mater is in the news again for some deeply, deeply stupid shit. I guess if there’s any solace in this story it’s that locally it already seems to be fizzling out, probably because the football team is going to the playoffs.
The OU essay is the literary equivalent of the ALABAMA ARKANSAS song.
Sick of the Bellingham slander it's a great mid sized city
it is an insanely bleak place to resettle someone. No sun, haaaard drinkers, everyone glowering all the time
I really love this show and you guys. I wish I tuned in way back from the start but glad I’m here now.
The Trump admin must be confused by the reaction to the boat strikes after two years of Gaza. Israelis triple tapped the world central kitchen workers to make sure they were all dead but doing the same thing to a boat is not allowed. You can be an insane bloodthirsty maniac but you better only do it on behalf of Israel.
Bari has one other option; that shitty actor from stranger things
one day Will will let someone finish a sentence
Funny, that's how I feel about Felix! Still a loyal listener.
Drive through Springfield MO and you’ll realize that the OU student is the avg person from that town. I went thru the McDonald’s there and there were like 10 blotches of spitted out tobacco covering the walls next the register window lol. Really the funniest thing about that OU student is her choosing to not go to MO state in Springfield, just to go to OU as if that is not just a worse college at a worse town in worse environment than Springfield MO lol
Fuck, I Guess Alan has always been a baddie.
Give Dersh Ms. Rachel's job.
The thing I try not to dwell on too much is that these MF'ers are going to get away with it all. The Great American Experiment indeed...
Shout out to Bellingham! Go Viks!
hell yeah doing the deadlock ritual to reincarnate frank church
simply perceiving Alan Dershowitz feels antisemitic
Is Felix referencing Peter Mcneeley for this okie doke girl?
I love Washington state but sending a heavily traumatized, mentally unstable guy there with no support is like sending a pyromaniac into a fireworks factory
Also its dark at 3pm here during fall. Bad strategy. Also its because JBLM LEWIS MCCHORD
this show is the only good thing this country has ever produced
So funny the essay about two distinct genders keeps talking about how men and women both are made in Gods image-taking different aspects from God-and God is a HE
cant wait till bovine barry replaces nance and romo with the fullnecky mother and oaf daughter
https://www.propublica.org/article/afghanistan-night-raids-zero-units-investigation-takeaways
Bari Bovinowitz strikes again. Tear it all down Bari! Own the libs… or the extremists? Or to be heterodox by realigning the center of the Overton yard lines. Who cares, you’re brilliant! 🐮
Seth calling in from a toaster at the bottom of a shallow well
Between this Dumbo's essay and the Zohran Arabic numerals "controversy," stupids are having a big week
Bellingham catching a lot of strays…. It’s a lovely town….
I honestly agree but I also know it gets 3 hours of sunlight a year and has gale force winds 3/4 days
"If we reincarnate Frank Church in the body of a BEAUTIFUL man or woman..." So, Otis Pike.
DC Shooter is Raiden from MGS. He didnt get the Big Boss rank when he got an alert from those guards and resorted to his pistol instead of his tranq gun.
Apropos of absolutely nothing, I finally heard Rod Drehers voice last night and good goddamn
that would be a good chant MULTI GENDER IS A LIE THE MOONS A GIRL THE SUNS A GUY
Jovians are nonbinary
Fulnecky’s husband is a doctor, my wife used to work for him. And yes, we do deserve to die
I think having a last name like “Fulnecky” would automatically ban you from any TPUSA event. I don’t think anyone in that crowd could hear the word “neck” without bawling and frothing at the mouth.
Felix, you've been in a coma for a long time Yes I know you'd like to know how long The marine punching the teacher email is at least 22 years old Now look in this mirror and make your MGO character profile
The picture of Dersh looks like Connor O'Malley in makeup
Actually Connor I know you or Mrs. Bryant are somewhere in these comments. I'd pay good money to see you do this
Any plan to combat antisemitism needs to involve keeping Alan Dershowitz out of the public eye.
Kinda surprising a dude like that didn't just have one in the chamber.
He said it. "I should have served the Taliban." Yea dude. Woops.
That Jamal Wali bodycam was really gut-wrenching
Can you link it here please
Bari’s analogy is great! Stay within the central 40 yards- only fascists or communists/anarchists can ever score a touchdown. So true.
Is “Full Neckie Jacket” anything? Feels like that could be something
yessir
There is only one gender should absolutely be a new slogan.
new trueanon tshirt
Anybody know what the song is in between the interview and the Bari weis bit ?
Bruh. The Boléro as orientalism. Here’s another ridiculous mash up for you: “African Victorian”.
"I'm sick so I may be mispronouncing things" Will been sick for 10 years.
Sick! 🤙🏼
Long post but this is important. I know sailors, who up until this point (whether correctly or incorrectly) have kind of viewed their service as the branch that is most at arm's length from the sort of organized killings that the US does. But now they are being pulled from overseas assignments in the fucking Asia Pacific, where they assumed they are just kind of there to serve as a deterrent against China, and being sent on deployment to the Caribbean for this shit. And the absolute dread they experience when they got that order and drop in morale is immediate. It's written all over their face, they know exactly what they're being sent to do and it eats them inside. On the topic of like Nazi treatment of surrendered enemy combatants, I know you could really go on for a while about how the Germans saw the English and Americans as fellow Aryans so whatever honor they might have had was exclusive to those that they saw as people, right? And obviously to the people calling the shots in the US military, they don't see the people of Latin America with any sort of kinship or humanity. But the thing is, at this point outside of special forces the military is basically America's Hispanic/latino/pacific islander auxilia. Go to any barracks dorm and you'll see the windows lit up with flags from Costa Rica or Honduras or Puerto Rico or Columbia. A lot of them sign on specifically because they were undocumented and saw joining the service as a way to get citizenship for themselves and so their family can stay in America. Up to this point there's been a certain depolarization where those people will be the most vocal about how they were gaining citizenship "the right way" and they need to get the freeloading illegals out. But man oh man, there has really been a tone shift as they see the reality of what they're now being asked, no commanded to do. The worst part is I don't think that this is going to signal any sort of actual political shift or a young officer's coup or whatever adventurist dream we might have. It's not going to cause any sort of reform or revolution. Instead it's going to eat these guys inside and out until they've gone completely hollow, completely nihilist, and end up like that fucker that shot those national guardsmen in DC or detonated their cybertruck because they though they were being gangstalked by predator drones. Military enlistment might have increased since Biden, but it's not out of enthusiasm or a call for service. When you look at junior enlisted it's clear that they're joining because the position of being an undocumented immigrant in America has become more dangerous, and economic conditions have made it harder to make a stable living with access to housing, education, and healthcare outside of the military. So I don't even see recruitment dropping down as this gets worse if I'm being completely honest. You'll just see people have to become comfortable with the fact that they have become killers as a prerequisite to meeting their basic needs. And that is a very very dangerous situation indeed.
If someone wasn't a loser before joining, they are afterwards. Especially now. Like if you joined after the Iraq war you're basically a crack whore. Like is a Halliburton contractor needed to take a dump on their chest they'd just roll their eyes and lay down. Everyone else needs to stop respecting them and at some point openly denigrating them.
Heyoooi 1974 Oakland A’s pitching staff shoutout!
Felix, as the resident military aeronautics expert, you should know that B-17s were nicknamed “Flying Fortresses” not Liberators, aka the B-24. Ju-88s were medium range tactical bombers and would thus be very unlikely candidates for the honorable escort mission. Also soft “J” [like English “Y” eg. “Yugoslav”] Otherwise, keep up the 2,500 cc vape pulls , brother. ❤️
Also I’m 93 percent gay
I think it is a great idea of Trump to publicly announce the US gov is sending 10k CIA trained death squad collaborators back to Afghanistan to their certain death. I am sure they sit quietly and wait untill the gravy seals come and pick them up.
When they couldn't even sit quietly waiting for the DMV or whatever.
wasn't the dc shooter 15 years old when he was recruited by the cia?
Someone make this into an anime. One of these kids must be Big Boss right?
the Oklahoma thing is a perfect parallel with ICE tbh, the kid took this class knowing the professor was trans to deliberately get failed because they know that they're an otherwise useless member of society and if they can't accomplish anything worthwhile with their life then by god they can at least ruin the lives of people who can
Riley Gaines protocol
I'd like to speak to my fellow Washingtonians: My small dick is gay
I think since the 90s the "going postal" phenomenon is worse in the private sector now than it was at the post office peak, USPS still has some of the oldest unions that are active and the service preferably hires vets with full benefits
Also judging by the mail carriers in my neighborhood, it appears to be one of the last jobs outside restaurant work where you can drink on the job.
Bellingham fucking rules
I mean; if lived through the invasion of Afghanistan, spoke little English, and was tasked with delivering Amazon packages by the CIA... Its close to Canada I guess
The former CIA Afghan contractors still have a lot of work to do to catch up to the pardoned Jan. 6ers on the crime scoreboard.
Well, the Afghans are just punch-clock death squaders. For Republicans, destroying as many innocent human lives as possible is a true vocation.
Love Felix, but he is nothing if not consistent in his smug provincialism. He needs to experience more places and regions. When he more ignorant than he is Worldly, but shits on everywhere; he ends up sounding like mancow
"There exists, for everyone, a sentence - a series of words - that has the power to destroy you"
Don't shit on Bellingham. It's a perfectly nice town.
Chapo don't cross my town bruh.
Trump isn’t in control of the war machine. Every time he presents as any sort of dove, the Neocon / Zionist International releases a new trove of epstein leaks about Trump. The war machine is more powerful than any one president.
That's an interesting idea. Is there another example besides the emails dropping a little while after the "ceasefire?"
Well if there's one thing we can count on with complete certainty it's a Chapo prediction that a war doesn't happen. Venezuela, you have nothing to fear!
If Chalmers Johnson was still alive how many chapters would he have had to add to Blowback?
Seth!!! your book made me nauseous and sad!!! and you annoyed my girlfriend by making me talk about it all the time!!!!
We need a Pashto or Tajik speaking journalist (or social science researcher) to collect data from these Zero Unit veterans. That would be a great way to document and publicize CIA/US sponsored war crimes (and would make for fascinating reading.) Whatever their status in the US- I’m sure they have fascinating (and for the US embarassing) stories to tell. There probably aren’t many Pashto speakers in the US, but Tajik is a dialect of Farsi (and there’s a decent sized Persian American community in places like Southern California) so it’s not beyond the realm of possibility.
Lol yah, fuck bellingham
Go Vikings
hell yes another Seth Harp episode to make me want to walk into an active lava flow
Why does it make you want to do that?
Alan has some of the yellowest teeth one could ever come across
I haven’t seen Alan at the nudist beaches recently 😔
Sexy yung Dersh
One of my favorite guest
Ate
Some dick
🐐 👑 yeehaw
SETHIE MA BOY
Hellyeah
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