979 - Cat People (Running For Mayor) feat. Jon Bois (10/20/25)
Secret Base’s sports-data auteur Jon Bois is back to preview a new series: a history and analysis of mound charges in baseball, coming this November. We talk a little bit about recent sports news including Dana White’s new boxing league, Shohei Ohtani’s generational run, and the Seattle Mariners (RIP). We then do a deep dive on former Reform Party member Curtis Sliwa, his statements about parades, Hasids, and cats, and his eating competition scandals. Finally, a quick check-in on Jordan Peterson’s recent health woes.
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Comments (223)
'Murica gets its collective violence out at public schools, not sporting events...
The real question is name a parade that isn't gay.
Felix couldn't talk baseball if his life depended on it.
Felix is that one annoying friend who keeps trying to steer the conversation into his niche interest nobody else cares about
That's exactly what he is. Fuck.
John bois. I have a question about American football. Is it possible for a team’s defense to be so good (and opposing team’s offense so bad) that a quarterback never enters the game: If every possession results in a Pick Six? The good team’s special teams would also need to fumble the ball during their kickoff. What are the chances of this, how do you do that math?
The defense would get too tired from being on the field the entire game — unless they are real supermen, and that's why they're dominating. Otherwise I don't think they could sustain it.
Fuck George Springer forever. That’s all.
Felix doesnt know ball. Ohtani was hurt most of last year and did not pitch once due to surgery. So how is that him "preserved in his prime"
Felix and baseball is just so wrong.
Also I feel like the gun angle is to do arena airsoft but with those bean bag shotgun shells and shit.
micro nation parade is such a great idea wow
I'm aware Chris is on paternity and that comes first so he's not editing but DAMN that cool for cats pick at the end feels like it was him
Woof plz nobody move to LA
Cope
I went to a casino In Seoul that had cardboard cutouts of Robert Deniro everywhere
Say what you want about Sliwa, he's at least an authentic New Yorker. He's nuts, but he's nuts in a way that's part of the city's fabric.
Painful attempt at sports talk from Felix
More baseball talk!! 🗣️🗣️
One reason why European sport gets the ultra fans and hooliganism is those clubs began as neighborhood clubs. So like in London the kids in Chelsea played for Chelsea; the kids in Queens Park play for QPR, etc. unless you’re Arsenal then your club moves the neighborhood like gentrifying settler scum. matches were neighborhood turf wars. And these rival teams are separated by just a few blocks. Spurs/Arsenal are bitter rivals and they’re only 5mi apart. There’s no US pro rivalry like that.
moved to Scotland to be with my partner and have witnessed firsthand the sectarian violence that comes with football. makes me lol to think i’d ever feel threatened outside of somewhere like … lambeau field
The Burj Al Arab in Dubai marketed itself as a 7-star hotel back in 1999, that kid might not have been the one lying
can someone dig up the footage of the dutch guy throwing the maccabi supporter into a canal? the one felix said was the most handsome guy in the world
What that song at the end?
Squeeze - Cool for Cats
I looked up the Pedro Martinez and Don Zimmer incident. Very enjoyable to see the drama and recap for the very first time ever
JP is real life Mr.Glass
The true Istanbul mayoral candidate reveres cats in a major city. This is why Adams dropped out
Should call his cat proposal Stop and Friskies
Claw and Order
So much for cleaning your room
Is he jojo siwa’s dad?
As a mariners fan still recovering from our game 7 heartbreaker. Thank you for your kind words 🙏
The fistfighting culture bit is why we need to bring back hardcore crew cultures
Make Crews Great Again
This has been a great one. A Dos Anjos and Fedor mention. M1!
Bas Ruten the notorious liver puncher may be the most dangerous fighter ever. From the Pancrase days.
This episode needs a correction: there are no fights between fans in american sports because american sports are not real. They are syndicated, coordinated spectacles, not regional, cultural objects of quasi-worship and self-representation like being a West Ham fan or something like that. You don't see a person wearing rival team jerseys one under the other in the 3rd division of brazilian football like they do in Lakers vs Warriors games, because the 3rd division team in brazilian football is not a consumer good like being a Lakers fan is. The only way a fight between fans would happen in the US is if there weren't enough products to be bought by all purchasing fans. That's why people trample each other on Black Fridays and not on Bing Bong Knicks fans tiktoks.
Yeah it's literally bc the fans don't care it's all performative they don't even have a mental model of what a true fan feels
Congratulations to the hosts for successfully finding the only podcast topic more boring than video games
Low testosterone detected
I hope Jim Traber charging the mound in Japan makes an appearance. I have to watch that video set to Benny Hill every couple years.
Traber’s been a drivetime sports radio guy here in OK forever now. Him and his fellow geriatric cohost do a segment where they play golden oldies and try and remember who sang them.
I like Tom Sexton's comment about JP getting sick from cleaning his room, "He was felled by his own success."
I watched the Kyle Farnsworth fight live as a kid and it was so awesome
Joey chestnut drinks several gallons of water to stretch his stomach before he wins hotdogs eating competitions
After counting down mound charges another good list to put together would be top NASCAR pit crew fights. (Yes those have happened).
Go Jays 🐦
FELIX AND JON THE PEOPLE YERN FOR A FOLLOW UP TO FIGHTING IN THE AGE OF LONELINESS. PLEASE GIVE US WHAT WE WANT!
MMA is extremely boring and sanitized now, it's not gonna happen.
I could not disagree more with this guys baseball takes on Ohtani and big market teams. - signed bitter padre fan
I mound charged your mom last night… thanks yall
Ngl love Felix but liking mma is cringe
There's an old Doug Stanhope bit that the reason we don't actually fight, and the Europeans do, is because they have healthcare. We can't afford a broken nose or chipped tooth.
The toe-tap-turn variation that Ohtani does is a timing mechanism that keeps him in sync with the delivery of the pitcher so he is on time for the pitch, able to adjust to offspeed, and keep properly balanced through the swing. Bryce Harper used the same style when he was in high school. Each hitter figures out one that works for them and sometimes it becomes their own flair or style.
Curtis Sliwa is a real life TMNT character
Are Sliwa’s cats indoor-only? Google isn’t telling me and I HAVE to know
I’m deciding how much to donate to his campaign
jordan peterson has spent more of his adult life crying and in comas than tony sopranos mom
The funny part about Sliwa's antisemitism is that he has two children with the Queens DA, a liberal zionist Jew.
Heard it here first, Mariners going to the World Series 😢
us not being violent sports fans is such a great point. probably because everyone in this country either has a gun or will record you and try to ruin your life
being the best at fighting got me to be a frat president
The wife is always calling me out for mound charging
ayo
...WITH GASOLINE!
Ohtani would be like if Revolver Ocelot and Psycho Mantis were the same guy but looked like Mei Ling
bring on the cat patrol! I want a Marty
Will finding an actual use case for utilitarian logic, impressive ⚾
LET'S GO BLUE JAYS
I gotta catch myself from time to time got me so good lmao
please don’t turn me into a speed bump mayor sliwa. i am just a simple Jewish boy looking for someone’s mom to yell at me
Felix absolutely asking the dumbest most autistic question about baseball of all time despite baseball literally being the excel spreadsheet sport
"Ya, so like Ohtani's huge peck muscles must be the determining factor of his base running?"
Dodger fan here so delighted to have Jon Bois on the pod to talk about historic Shohei game, more great programming from da best pod in the world.
You fucking jinxed us Bois!
Two references to Faulkner from Felix. I see he is reading again.
Mario Cuomo told the story on Ken Burns Baseball documentary. The same scout that signed him signed Mickey Mantle, for less money.
Blue Jays World Series baby!!
The military has evangelions but the pilot is a regular sized guy who lives in its ass and controls it with levers
Finally a little baseball chat and Felix won’t shut the fuck up about cage fighting. Just can’t have nice things.
The Toronto Blue Jays own Chapo Trap House.
There should be a Halloween parade
Peterson is just soy Catturd
Mr Clean Your Room dying of chronic mold exposure. I don't know how to respond to this much irony
i can just imagine him now, sponge and bucket in hand, scrubbing vigorously on black mold, NO mask, no ventilation, ejecting the spores into the air. Hilariously stupid behavior from someone who's supposed to be smart.
Is Sliwa and his Micky-D angels the closest thing we ever got to a real world ocelot unit?
I do have one very strong eating contest opinion which is that they shouldn't be allowed to do that gross tearing up the dog and balling up the bread and dunking it in water shit. In fact, not only should they have to take contiguous dog-and-bun bites like a normal person eating a hot dog, the dogs should be garnished with mustard onions and relish at least.
The cats are strong evidence that Sliwa's political philosophy stems from Logan's Run.
Sliwa sold me with the cat strike force.
Power slap is the combat sport they would host in the casino from Vegas Vacation that only has games like war and “guess which hand it’s in”
Glad the Mariners lost, fuck them, they should win when the Brewers lost? Fuck Seattle
Everyone should have cats!
Marty Mornhinweg mentioned 🙌🙌🙌
As someone of Austrian and Croatian descent, I get it Sliwa 😂
I will once again aver that people who support both the Mets AND Yanks are bugmen from the ruling class of NYC
In 7th grade a Liar Kid in my 98% white town flew too close to the sun and said that his grandma was in the No Limit Soldiers. He never recovered from that
Would love to hear will do a weekly sports pod
Pablo Torre would kill him in his sleep
Only the Marines
I saw the “live weapons above the highway” electronic sign driving to work on sunday
Gabor Mate for the win
It really is beyond incredible that a person like Jordan Peterson, who claims to be a psychologist, a depth psychologist, and a Jungian acolyte no less, can have so little insight into psychosomatic illness as to run around, saying, “I’m perfectly healthy mentally, I should be listening to, in terms of how to organize society and raise children, the only source of my illnesses are that I eat things other than beef, that I am allergic to apple cider, that my doctor lied to me about benzodiazepine Addiction, and that I as a 68-year-old man have a mold sensitivity that is generally outgrown by the time a person is about seven.”
RIP Ms :(
Sliwa Santos 2028
power slap is fun to watch as clips and if youre going into it more to observe how ridiculous it is
Felix doesn't know about Chicago's coyote program to control rodent problems?
Highly recommend Napoleon Blownapart's YT vid on Powerslap (also everything else on his channel especially the one on TUF & his fakers/frauds stuff)
mariner
Gun the duel? Close enough to a GunZ: The Duel mention
Pretty Good
123rd ✊🏼
To be honest, there were a suspicious number of parades going down my avenue in Queens this year. This includes every individual South and Central American country, South America in general, and Hispanics in General (guess the existence of Brazil and Spain means that you need two distinct parades). I genuinely wonder what's going on with that.
Brazilians aren’t Hispanic they’re Latinos… sorry lol but I think that helps prove your point
I’m so fucking sad about the Mariners. Fucking Canada in the World Series. Truly the century of American humiliation
Its okay the Dodger has it on lock.
Waking up in Tacoma and throwing on my favorite podcast and getting punched square in the dick. Go Mariners 😭
anyone aware of something like secret base but for hockey?
RIP my Mariners season. WE SHOULDVE KEPT IN WOO
I’m distraught man. He pulled Kirby early too, no?
The childhood liar friend is one of the best archetypes.
How is the clean your room guy gonna die from long term mold exposure???
Fucking jinxed it
Let's go Blue Jays!!
powerslap is so hilariously evil. dana realized they had a venue and cameras and could pay guys $500 to get life altering brain trauma and decided- fuck it, these hogs will watch
This is what jinxed the ms
They love to back a doomed team
Our childhood liar claimed he was rich, the street the school was on was the same as his last name and he said his dad owned the street and charged tolls to the school buses. He would bring yacht catalogs to school and around groups of people loudly say to himself “HMMMMM WHICH YACHT SHOULD I BUY THIS WEEK?” He once made a Facebook status about how he was enjoying his weekend in France and how he’s so glad he can afford to take a trip like this on a whim to which somebody replied “we can see you’re on Xbox live right now” and he said that’s because I brought my Xbox to France with me and the person then sent a photo of him sitting on his bed through his bedroom window.
That last sentence reads like you’re actually the liar and you made the whole story up. In which case, bravo, very meta.
there should be a pro hamas parade where you march up to jewish college students at ivy league universities and boo and hiss
Clean your moldy room Jordan!
Look on the bright side, if they're wasting live ammo on parties, then they surely have enough to waste sending to Ukraine and Israel instead of doing peace deals
England is Bread and Circus if bread and circus was their left and right brain.
I love chapo ball talk
The Sliwa story about getting shot by the Gambino executioner is a tapestry of words. Highly recommend
America not having a fistfighting culture is explained by guns. Any asshole that gets confronted might just canoe somebody’s skull with their EDC and declare stand-your-ground.
Based on your pronunciation of the name, I believed for quite a while that Mamdani's first name was Sauron.
You know what they say: the only thing stopping an antisemite is another antisemite
Not a terrible episode, I still think the lack of Matt makes the talk of sports a lot less entertaining but that goes for any topic. But my biggest complain is the Chapo's complete silence in their beloved Mandami kissing every imperial ring, repeating the "tortured Israeli hostages" line and disagreeing with the Trump administration's war on Venezuela in means only. I'd think after Sanders, AOC and Contrapoints, they would have by now learned that anyone who even attempts to work within the system has every principle surgically removed out of them.
I mean, what can they do besides "that sucks and we hate it"? Like did nobody figure out after AOC and Bernie that podcasts condemning politicians for not being left wing enough is beyond pointless?
57:38 Felix knew a kid who said his school got called off because a kid committed seppuku, which is true i hope
They didn't call it off when one of my classmates did the same. We were in school the next day.
I thought this was going to be a bonus MM ep about Sleepwalkers.
This was a good episode, funny stuff
There should be time codes in the description of episodes. I don't like spirts, and I demand a safe space
Time stamp when sports talk end? I’m gay
20 minutes in
So dunking a hotdog bun is fine but pressing the broth out of a Matzoh Ball isn't? We need an eating competition regulatory body more than ever.
Judge us not by our casinos
Let's go Blue Jay's!!!!!
Letterkenny supremacy indirectly mentioned in towns that are run by the leader solving all disputes with fist fights. Canada leading the way in future political discourse.
Blue Jays 🔛🔝
my first ballgame was orioles vs mariners in '92. I was seven and don't remember much besides the bench clearing brawl.
Power Slap is for dudes who got into mma through knockout compilations.
Really really good episode today guys!
Sliwa so much cooler than Mamdani
What if Mr Mamdani wore a beret?
Chris didnt drop a snippet of the song Cocaine in at 9:l8min
Jon clearly missed out on the boutique British gambling experience of losing your last five quid on a fixed odds terminal in Ladbrokes on a rainy Wednesday night
I'm so sick of this fuckin NYC mayoral election.
I dropped out when Adams did
Blue Jays W. Gonna be tough against the Dodgers
Blue Jays
Andrew Jackson deferred his duel coin toss and it gave him slime powers
the cat thing is the exact system in place here in Bangkok and it works incredibly well. for the amount of street food, there are rarely rats. everyone feeds the cats and you get cute cats everywhere. it's an amazing system.
Yeah, but what about the birds?
Go Jays! Even if I know the Dodgers are going to win
Mound charges increased after 9/11 due to latent rage of the average American baseball player
“Why watch overtime playoff hockey when you can simply snort cocaine and ride a motorcycle out of a helicopter?” -Jon Bois
I can't believe I clicked on a podcast whose guest is known for talking about sports and they talked about sports.
Much less one who did a sports doc series with one of the hosts. Why are they copying themselves?
Go 'Topes!
No one cares about sports
“Lurching down the street, getting absolutely pumelled by onlookers for asking them ‘Whom is doing a sports’”
TBH as someone who neither knows nor cares about baseball, I enjoyed that intro a lot more than I thought I would
Menaker's sports takes betray the fact that he is truly an elitist. Disgusting. Toronto is the socialist pick.
Toronto seems like it has Manhattan economics and Staten Island politics, not to mention Levittown aesthetics.
The great Doug Stanhope explained the fighting culture in Europe was due to no guns and free healthcare. In the US you need to think twice before starting a fight - the other person might have a gun or, if not, then you would need to weigh up the significant medical expense for even the most basic injury. Xx
The punch line was he saw a PSA poster in the toilet at a bar that said you should not drunkenly assault Paramedics when they show up to a call at a bar. Seriously. I went there for work. It's the biggest white trash culture on earth(I'm from Texas). All they do is fight and gamble. UK is no doubt the biggest shit hole in europe.
This episode convinced me to vote for Sliwa. Hell, maybe I'll do it a few times
Sportball
Uh, Ted Williams literally did hit .400 and then shoot down two jets. In fact I think he recorded at least 6 confirmed kills.
Italian Pride Parade was RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM. If any of those morons promised them the Tony Soprano Italian Pride Parade to replace Columbus Day in the New York Mayoral Debate, they could have turned every wop in the country into their personal Sardaukar. We're talking ten generations of Democratic Socialist voters in Little Italy. How do you fuck that up???
Blue jays
Fuck you.
If Felix gets into Buhurt I will lose my mind
I was hoping they would have jon bois on more regularly
of course will menaker, mister upper east side coastal elite, son of publishing magnate daniel menaker, would suggest supporting the larger market team
I’ll be damned everybody whose anybody is related to somebody
All this intense stuff happening in the world and we're wasting 19 minutes on the dead boomer's game of baseball
Loser alert
This is why I never clean. Too dangerous
Fucking Jordan Peterson probably thought osha was gay and huffed mold without a mask so now he’s all fucked up
doing basic hygene is woke
And here I was excited to listen to my favorite podcast to distract myself from the crushing loss of my favorite team.
Go Dodgers, fuck Canada, 5000% tariffs NOW
Who was the world series mvp for the dodgers last year? Did Shohei hit home runs in 6 straight World Series games dating back to the first World Series he won with a different team in 2021? No. That’s Freddy Freeman.
Im so sad my Mariners lost. 😢
Win win WS for me as a Dodgers fan and United States of America hater
M’s had it man, damn
Cito Gaston is smiling somewhere
BOB ZIMMER lmao Felix goes full Bart Giamatti
Two-way players in the modern nba are typically dunkers who can spell the starting coach for 5-6 minutes early in the second quarter
Thank you guys for doing more political ish. I am about to pay for you all again lol xoxo still beloved always, but i yearned for more of your political ish like in the past! merci
Long time since we were graced with a Jon Bois visit.
i hate dan wilson
Hater
Felix begins speaking at 3 minutes and 58 seconds
Incredible timing with the mariners call
How is this episode not about George Santos?
Sorry bro, they only released the George interview ep for us 'True Slopaholics' tier members. 🤷♂️
Putting out fires with gasoline!
RIP my mariners </3
Pour one out
Sorry about the Mariners guys, I was rooting for them too
+1
Loving the Trapo Chop Mike n the Mad Dog segments
I’m out here SlappinFannies an KillinGrannies
Third
Fistr
First
(With a funny hat)
We should start a party
