975 - Like a Virgin feat. Séamus Malekafzali
Séamus joins us to talk about Trump’s proposed “Gaza peace plan” and what horrific policies it would actually entail in practice, as well as the Democratic Party’s desperate attempts to triangulate on the issue. We also wade into the increasing possibility of regime change in Venezuela as well as ICE’s pillaging of Chicago apartment buildings. On the lighter side, we talk about Bari Weiss being given the keys to CBS news and Tyler Cowen’s Humbert Humbert-esque ode to an AI actress.
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Comments (156)
thank you for your coverage on Gaza, my partner and his family are from there and are currently displaced in the south so this hits very very close as always.
Excellent update on the sad state solution for a genocide taking place from an apartheid state. The star spangled plan created once again by outdated colonialist ideologies just comes off as continuation of the grift, mind, body, & soul…
Seamus twice!
Fantastic episode.
Ayooo Hank Johnson's my rep... He's a crazy idiot, but it's a deep blue district and he's basically untouchable. Fuck the Dems man. A party of losers
I wish you guys would have Seamus on for more light hearted topics. He has a great sense of humor
I saw Tilly Norwood drinkin a piña colada at trader vics
Her hair was perfect
No mention of the classic Deltron 3030 joint Turbulence smh where’s a real ball knower when you need them
I need to confess my innermost truth which is that I get a little THRILL of excitement whenever Felix calls someone a c*nt
It’s extremely satisfying, alas
Problematic age gap guest
The last segment….,gah! My sympathies to whatever poor soul pulls the computer forensics job for ‘ol’ Tyler after the probable happens.
It's good to know everyone who is pushing this AI takeover is intrinsically evil and have no redeeming qualities
Always nice to hear reference to Layer Cake, great film.
She slob on my Norwood till-y cum
we're cascading towards Year of the Bastard
I stumbled across a video on the internet of Tilly getting boned by a penis her same size. I was worried it would tare her apart but she seemed okay some how. No one tell Tyler Cowen. He'd be devastated
Didn't Van Jones lament that when the Dems rigged the primary against Bernie in 2020 that they likely disaffected a large number of young voters? I guess he forgot he was right about that
I was on this deranged dating and social media app called Lulu in like 2015 and would argue with incels and trad guys, and one was posting questionable stats about how virgins are more likely to stay married yada yada. It was fun to tell them “you can never *really* know how many men a woman has slept with, IT’S SELF REPORTED DATA LOLOLOL”
Bugs Bunny cartoons are obviously ruined because he fucks for sure
Only the Roadrunner fucks more than Bugs
Yea he lost me when he did the Latina newscaster thing and said Qatar like he doesn’t speak English with an American accent
Okay, thanks for tuning in!
I can't get over this whole "wanting to see a virgin on screen" thing. It all sounds like the online paper trail of a teen actress's stalker/murderer. Should we reopen the Rebecca Schaeffer case? What was Tyler Cowen up to in 1989??
You know if you think about it my toaster is a virgin, I mean, it was before I bought it yeowch
Sick This Heat drop.
We bombed people in Philly awhile back (M.O.V.E., which y'all mentioned) and then again in Texas under Obama. Y'all remember that Guardsman who sniped a few cops? They drove a drone to his shooting position and blew him up.
Do the branch davidians not make the list?
Banger ep 🏆 أحبك يا شايمس حبيبي
Matt would’ve gone ape shit on this article.
Probably best for his health they Goodbye Lenin this article for him tbh
"we need 2a to protect ourselves from tyranny! Unless there's tyranny in which case it's fine."
Are the Dutch the culture that practices Racist Christmas?
Even though it’s still none of your business, I can see caring about virginity if you are young and also a virgin and would like you and your partner to lose your virginity to each other. Kind of a naive and selfish concern and none of your business, but understandable. If you are a grown ass man caring about (and publicly opining) on the virginity of younger women who you don’t even know, and wishing to see more confirmed virgins in your entertainment, you should be sent to a pervert colony.
Kudos to Felix for finally holding the Dutch accountable, somebody had to do it 😤
There are only two things I hate in this world: people who are intolerant of other cultures, and the Dutch.
Dude was sorely disappointed by The Virgin Suicides
My dad believes that the Dutch secretly run BC. I don't know if it's because he stopped paying attention to politics when Vander Zalm was premier or what. For any group to be roped into a confusing conspiracy conspiracy, this seems the most fair
I mean, they were an early capitalist society that never reached world power status, but do have some very wealthy families nonetheless. So it could be true.
That reading series was one of the most viscerally disgusting in a long while. Normally i just feel annoyance and anger at them but something about this one was truly gross.
This ep was Heat
Tyler Cowen is just the stalker from Perfect Blue
maybe i missed this: is spencer producing now? is chris on vacation? what’s happening?
Chris and Molly just had a baby so Chris is taking some parental leave. For some reason I assumed Brendan was producing while he was away but Spencer makes more sense
Maybe it's bc I wasn't raised religious, but I simply don't understand the obsession with virginity. Any dude who talks about wanting a virgin is deeply sus to me
It's usually sexual insecurity in the form of not wanting your performance or dick size to be compared to any other man.
we're gonna be down two chapo hosts to cerebral events if Felix keeps this up
i don’t know if i’m more worried about felix’s obvious distress and anger or will’s everso cleanly articulated to the point of being anodyne disgust
"I want to see a virgin onscreen" is the kind of thing that gets a prominent academic economist kicked off Little St. James.
"What the fuck, Cowen? We're just trying to get massages from high school girls and you had to make it weird. It's guys like you giving the rest of us ephebophiles a bad name!"
I'm so sick of seeing actors in front of shitty CGI backgrounds, which is why I've embraced putting the shitty CGI lady in front of shitty CGI backgrounds
That dude on twitter that came up with the "everyone is 12" idea is absolutely validated every moment of the day.
So … how long before there is an AI movie featuring Tilly Norwood losing her virginity in explicit detail?
Dylan and Seamus are the new bash brothers 👏
This reading series was pure disrespect
Who else thinks Fascists are half a click away from saying this genocide was only Jews fault and the fault of every Jew and therefore Hiter's work must be completed?
As a monolingual burger-person, hearing an Arabic speaker botch every Spanish or Portuguese word is hilarious
As an Arabic + other random languages speaker I’ll just say that I also love hearing Will and Felix pronounce Qatar like it’s the title character of Welcome Back Kotter
Misread this as "Like A Virgil"
“There are two things in the world I can't stand: people who are intolerant of other people's cultures... and the Dutch.”
I came here to post just that!
Dude. Google Tyler Cowen. For some reason I was picturing a 20 something. Dudes an old ass man opining about virgins. Hell wit dis man
Felix is the greatest
Felix broke the streak of suicide support, so in honor of this monumental achievement we need a grey wolf to kill themself. That being said at 1:25:40 Will let's us fill in the gaps in our own mind about what should happen to virgin spotters, so I choose to fill that in with they should rope. Congrats to those who took the long odds on Will to cover the spread
I just killed myself, mission accomplished
Was Tyler cowen the guy who tried to convince slavoj zizek that he was actually a conservative and he had some weird thing about interpreting the cold war through gherkin pickles?
I think Jones is also tacitly admitting that he's seen plenty of those "dead Gaza baby" photos.
Jones is 2 years away from being klandace Owens. Actually I think she might actually care about Palestinians being genocided maybe, so I guess he'll just be some new type of loser.
The imagined AI slop consumer, rightfully, is imagined as your dumbass co-worker. The people that have the greatest hard on for the slop are the most annoying dorks you ever met. The kind of person that daydreams about humanity being obliterated and they being the last man on earth (still not getting pussy).
I dream of that, but I am glorious fuel for the machine.
People thought that device where you push the ON button and a panel opens and a metal finger emerges and presses it to OFF was a fun little electrical engineering joke but it's literally how the AI bubble economy works
I feel like I’m fucking losing my mind. Even if it was only one baby they murdered who keeps getting shown over and over on tiktok, that’s still a crime!!!!
liberalism is the practice of rationalizing the dead baby count. conservatism is the practice of increasing it.
One of the lessons of the Holocaust is that the human tolerance for suffering is theoretically infinite
Human endurance makes us both incredibly powerful and incredibly weak.
In an alternate reality Bernie is serving his third term, we have fast trains, and trashberg runs the ny times.
The initial spurt of institutional critical acclaim for Marvel movies and Taylor Swift albums absolutely destroyed the brains of a whole swath of zoomers and millennials. It was like they got some pure uncut validation heroin and they have been chasing the Iron Man high ever since
It is difficult to get a man to understand when his ego depends on his fav getting a 9.0 or higher from Pitchfork.
Seamus is 26? Oh my word I assumed he was like 35
This is a zoomer pod.
Critical support for our friends in Tren De Christina Aguilera.
Bernie sanders is doing the whole "it's a genocide but hamas started it" bullshit
😮💨
Guys, good points notwithstanding, it's tren de aragua, not tren de aguas. That means "Water Trains," which i think are an epstein thing
It's fake though.
felix fully and instantly clocking the Dutchness of this shit is incredible
Felix can see into the Matrix but instead of cascades of green numbers he sees the glowing outline of wooden shoes
26:05 - is that someone’s phone bitching at them about the volume level? Cause that kinda sounds like someone’s phone is bitching at them about the volume level
Nothing short of immense international pressure will stop the zionist regime from slaughtering or removing every single Palestinian from their land. These negotiations are to keep people busy until they finish.
The tie between Israel and the US must be severed and the regional powers will have to take action. Without the US no other country will feel safe facilitating them.
regards the rhetorical shift, I had some creep tell say that murdering babies is not bad if you're sure the babies will grow up to hate you.
Father of the year
The sanitization of Palestinian education system is no different than when Texas re-wrote the history textbooks to say slavery was a good thing.
I think it's a little different, in that most Texans already believed in the goodness of slavery
The Epstein saga has completely broken my fucking brain. Are we just openly speculating about an AI girl's sexual history, as if that's normal to think about even when the subject is not AI? Is that something these people are thinking about when they go to the movies and see a young woman on the screen? If she's a virgin or not? BRO WHAT.
Although, in the interest of fairness, Tony Blair almost certainly means Peter Mandelson along with him, and Gaza would love to be ruled by a gay Jewish pedophile
Inshallah, Blair and Mando will both bring back the Henry Gurney popcorn hat, and meet the same fate as Henry Gurney.
the intro music is different, yeah? slowwer?
Blair was trying to turn Gaza into personal PR very early in the genocide – he was trying to broker a "deal" to deport the entire Palestinian population to Egypt. And Paul Bremer, jesus wept, the man a colleague once memorably described as "the stupidest fucking guy in the world."
Maybe I've missed it, but I haven't seen a single "ceasefire proposal" make any reference whatsoever to the fact that Gaza is materially annihilated. Everybody's home is gone, the electrical grid is gone, the natively-produced food and goods are gone, every goddamn employer that employed anybody is gone, and whoever survives the genocide will need some serious fucking help on the personal AND medical levels. Any "ceasefire" that doesn't address the absolute necessity of a Marshall Plan-scale aid & reconstruction project is meaningless. Palestinians will be dying from the genocide a long, long time after the traditional military killing stops, as Israel fully intended, and it would be optimistic at this point to believe that 50% of the pre-2023 Gaza population is going to survive in any meaningful way, any way that isn't the walking corpsehood of knowing that your cause of death has already happened, and you're just waiting for the flesh to catch up. Gaza City, once the most overpopulated place on Earth, is just fucking GONE. Is Tony Blair going to dig a well? Plant an olive grove and wait 10 years? Invite the mothers who saw their babies not just murdered, but turned into unrecognizable bits of indescribable matter, to swing by the new "employment center" for a fucking job fair? Tony Blair couldn't do anything right in ENGLAND.
Realistically they will have to get by on international food aid that is allowed in. Which will probably require a 200 boat floatilla to put enough PR pressure for that to be honored. The reconstruction would require the military defeat of Israel and expulsion of Israelis, which probably won't happen until a president that isn't a nazi is in place. It would be a return of the diaspora. Idk, maybe we'll get some wacky reversal where China or Russia funds a Palestinian exhile to overthrow the Israeli government with a bumbling mercenary team. Bay of Figs. I'd sign up.
Track ID around 59 mins?
This Heat, "Twilight Furniture." You must get This Heat's 2 albums, THIS HEAT and DECEIT, immediately
"That's not what Karma is you fucking cunt" - Lama Felix Biedermann, the wheel of the turning of the Dharma (Chapo Trap House Edition)
As an infant, Felix recognized the vape pen and flight stick of the previous Lama, signalling that he was his true reincarnation.
That paedophile economist at the end there truly disturbed my soul. I can't believe that guy is allowed to be within 100m of a school, let alone write for an actual publication. With an editor. Who approves his writing.
don’t worry the editing staff that greenlit this are now in charge of one of america’s major news outlets
Séamus Malekafzali is great. He's having the time of his life in this ep and we love to hear it.
Habiibi yaa 3mry ❤️
We do need real men like Rock Hudson in movies again.
He wasn't gay. It was the medication he was on, for his blood pressure.
Felix needs to detension before talking. Us in the recovering speech impediment community are going to relapse unless he learns to breathe through his nose and relax bis diaphragm.
Relax the balls. Fill the anus. Breathe out.
11 minutes in and still no Felix!! Travis is having to work hard today
I feel like this freak ass that they’re talking about with the AI waifu would really benefit from therapy.
Dutch people literally have no sense of humor; mainstream Dutch comedy shows literally just have old white dudes saying slurs
Someone should ask Van Jones where Qatar is getting so much material for their "propaganda."
Ingrid Bergman was nasty slut
*said in the voice of Donald trump*
Felix is correct. There are more people in Southern California than there are Dutch. They cannot be allowed to continue.
No way in hell is this freak actually a "Maya Deren fan"
Felix possesses deep knowledge on the workings of karma. Next special interest is dharmic religions? Will we see fully enlightened Felix?
No. For he must continue to teach us. We already lost Matt.
I really think we should invest in a time machine so we can go back nuke america and Britain at the end of the second world war
Tyler Cowen was 47 years old in 2009, when he was prowling for 20 something virgins.
I didn't realise there were guys called Tyler born before 1995... what the hell
The "image distortion" thing about Gaza coverage is a good example of degen American movie brain. I've seen people point at bakeries and public events to counter the fact of starvation and bombing, as if for these things to be happening it has to be like a movie: where every place and every moment in existence in Gaza has to be in the same "thematic" conditions for any of it to be true or prove a point, as if the scale is much smaller. Palestinians trying to live a normal life despite all that because they are HUMAN is insidious cognitive dissonance for them
I have a friend who did MLM years ago. Even flew from NY to Florida for it, broke as she was. She quietly dropped it, and I was so relieved. She posted normal stuff for a while, then went silent during the Biden years. Then she reemerged last year to post just the kind of Gaza content you're talking about, exclusively. (...along with ambiguously "inspiring" bible quotes. She is a 50-something Chinese immigrant who was always atheist before.) A proud example of hers was a classy-looking dish served at the Thai restaurant in Al Rimal. IDF's bombing the restaurant two days later drew no comment from her.
Qatar is turning people against Israel? Has someone told Jared Kushner about this, he’d probably want to know what his business partners are doing.
Something up with the moon today? All the worst types of Chapo commenters are posting (on the merch post too)
“big yikes” vibes
bro is watching rear window with his meat out
Americans SHOULD interact more with Israelis. They are the grimmest possible reflection of us and witnessing their casual cruelty and disregard for other people - even other Jews - might scare some people into being better citizens. Truly detestable, Israelis, and as a Jew I resent them presenting themselves as somehow "the Jewish state." No, they're a nation of the ugliest of ugly American stereotypes adorned in the most boorish Hannukah wrapping paper and topped with a heaping dose of Messianism. A nation of shandas. Tweaking the algos to force us to interact with them more will have no different result than forcing us to interact with people from Arkansas: we'll just hate them more.
10,000% true. They're the most irritating boorish cocksure people I've ever talked to
I have pooped in my pants.
It is impressive how you all still cant pronounce “Gallego” when you mention him all the time. Appreciated the effort from Seamus, but it’s “guy-YAY-go”. Not that dude is deserving of any reverance but Outing yourselves constantly as guys who took French in high school … oof
oh
Felix makes commentary about Samsara and the endless cycle of suffering at 1:12:05
l like this version of "Felix Talks Watch" way better
Andrew Callaghan mention 🤢🤮
The thing Séamus doesn't mention about the "digital key token" shit that really has me feeling a certain type of way-- it's not just that they'll give Palestinians a fucking NFT in place of a promise for your stolen land. It was part of the stated provisions that they wanted to offer the Palestinians to trade that digital token for crypto thus giving up their land rights. Literally a pump and dump scheme driven by the desperation of a holocaust. Like Jesus fucking Christ as least the native Americans got some physical beads and wool blankets out of the deal sometimes. We live in fucking hell.
congratulations to Bari Weiss, if the American media needs more of anything it's zionism and pedophilia
And chicks with those stupid fukn glasses
I was promised first 3000 years ago
We love a Séamus ep
8th, glory to my bloodline
May you be fertile and sire multitudes!
We dem
Séamus!!!! Hitting play expeditiously
Geezus. Getting no sleep tonight.
Non stop slop the past couple weeks. Loving it.
Call me a little piggy
Pass the post
First and gay
That’s the right way to do it
