967 - Whitehat feat. Derek Davison (9/8/25)
Chapo Senior Foreign Policy correspondent Derek Davison is back once again to talk about the escalating possibility of war in Venezuela. We discuss the recent strike on a Venezuelan boat by Trump and his newly-Christened Department of War, a botched raid into North Korea, our collapsing relationship with India, China’s SCO summit with Russia, and conflict on the Thai-Cambodia border. Plus: a Matt Christman prediction comes true…
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Comments (103)
Clitoral Combat
In light of Charlie Kirk, you guys fucking stay safe. Please.
Ending song like I just finished an anime.
What's it called
Calmly whistling Dixie on Main Street Columbus georgia in 2043 oblivious of the Hyundai sonata shaped nuke aimed at my fat bald dome
I haven't listened yet I but too think the outro song was pretty great.
Yess another Derek ep 🙌
My theory is that Trump personally wants to have some kind war, just to fulfil MAGA, as in to show that the USA can win wars again under his great leadership. Not a huge conflict with a global power, just his little Blitzkrieg invasion of Poland situation, to flex power.
They kinda already did that with Iran but yeah, I think we’ll see something like that with Venezuela. Probably just more bombings because I don’t think we have enough troops in the area for an invasion.
What’s the song at 39 min?
All around the World or the Myth of Fingerprints by Paul Simon. It's on the Graceland album https://youtu.be/4KygdhHI_eE?si=JG0akpUnqVM1_KUH
Felix at 14:05-14:20 is so correct. When I was in college, anytime someone found out about my dead parent they would say some shit like "Well it's admirable that you were able to move beyond that" as if the normal reaction to something shitty is to do some hollywood style murder suicide thing
Per the substack of Matthew Cole, who helped write the NYT story with Dave Philipps: [Matthew Cole] learned about the mission to North Korea in 2023 from a trusted and vetted source. The circumstances of the disclosure—one of the most highly classified military missions in a generation—required that I do what is nearly impossible for me: sit on it. To protect my source, I needed to pretend I had never heard the story and wait months before I started making other calls. Why? Contacting other potential sources who knew about the mission—an extremely limited group of people—could expose the source who provided the tip. Perhaps because I have experienced the consequences of moving too aggressively on a story that deserves public disclosure, I erred on the side of discretion and patience. [Matthew Cole] waited 8 months.
A cops job is to go home to their family. A journalists job is to protect their sources. A ship is meant to be in a safe harbor.
Love that Outro song!
Isn't "Cartel of the Sun" a Tintin graphic novel?
which lie was worse: trump saying he couldn’t have writen the card to epstein because he doesn’t draw or mike johnson saying he was a white hat fbi informant on epstein?
Mike Johnson's was worse. Trump has everything to lose by telling the truth. Johnson just looks like a pathetic lapdog by making up such an obviously stupid story.
Imagine getting spotted in Splinter Cell, shooting and stabbing your way through the alert, and getting an "S" rank.
Vijay Prashad on Useful Idiots had a great recap of the cartel of the suns thing. It’s quite hilarious
trump and his administration are literally a fucking cartel!!!! why do we take them at their word EVER??? all they do is lie and project!
Will, it’s HUN-DAY like Sunday.
what is this outro song
seconded. answer us you cowards
I get 4 Kristi Noem “LEAVE OUR COUNTRY NOW” ads per American Prestige episode over here in Mexico lol
I’m one of those people who hesitates a bit to use “fascism” with Trump (because he doesn’t really believe in much of anything), but those ads are outright fascist. Made me pretty uncomfortable when I first heard one while in an uber. “Do I shake my head to show I disagree with this?”
Why didn't the USA just send a balloon to make all their base belong to us like China did?
Remember when North Korea was just dropping garbage on the south? I appreciate the whimsy
this one’s right up there with the one from when he brought clemson mcdonalds for winning the national championship
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Cartel of the Sun doesn’t exist anymore. Check the Greyzone most recent Episode
Even Radio War Nerd didn’t say one word about the Thai border conflict
The laughter of 2 Felixs 🫶🏼
I will always remember the "Mark Kirk Press Secretary" ban
Only like 5 minutes in and another Christman-ism remains perpetually relevant: they’re dabbing on us
mark kirk was moving like real-life bullworth
It’s pretty funny that the NYT released the SEALs in North Korea story like a month after Seth’s book was released. Like now I know that there is a non zero chance those SEALs were high on opiates and overdosing on dextroamphetamines
I also think it is a limited hangout operation. Shove some bad news out with the book so it gets a bit lost.
The navy SEALs were actually trying to send copies of that Seth Rogan movie about killing Kim to freedom loving North Koreans
Are they also going to go after the drug smugglers working with the CIA?
all of JSOC?
I do really love Derek. I appreciate how much he obviously appreciates Felix's humor and his laugh always gets me laughing too. Given the content of the eps he's always in, it's just always easier to hear when Derek delivers.
I assume that DHS just sees a tattoo on a Venezuelan guy and immediately goes 'wow that's a new gang we gotta track'
I think Citgo is the refinery/retail company owned by VZ, not Chevron.
Thank you editor Will for that hit of Paul Simon!
"Department of War" is a euphemism. It's accurate and explicit title would be "Ministry of Genocide".
Real heads will remember The Wire cops using a stingray to get Stringer Bells cell number in Season 3
Song at the end?
Acrophobia. Penguin Villa. Older Thai pop.
tell me what happened in 1949??
The Communist Party of China seized power from the Kuomintang
What’s the song at the end?
Acrophobia. Penguin Villa
The most frustrating thing about the name change "reversal" for the Department of War is that these idiots think it's like... A woke 1940s new deal culture war thing? When it was never even "changed" to begin with. Prior to 1945 the Department of War only included the Army, and the Department of the Navy operated separately. After WW2 the Pentagon looked back at all the queeny screaming matches that guys like Nimitz and MacArthur had with each other that caused embarrassing operational failures like the Phillipines and went "we should really get these two departments under one command structure that they both have to listen to." Thus we made the DoD, so the Army, Navy, and the newly formed Air Force would all play nice and not feel like they gave up "their" department by merging. Hegseth, despite being the SecDef, is apparently too fucking stupid and unqualified to know that. I know MAGA Navy guys who are genuinely mad about this because they feel like this is Navy cultural erasure.
*SecWar
Felix first talks about fighter jets at 58:40, sukhoi-30MKI, dassault rafale
To me at least, I feel like the Taliban victory in Afghanistan has kinda galvanized the idea of insurgency of being an effective strategy after doing so for 20 years. Like no one but a handful of states could hope to stand up to overwhelming US firepower in a coordinated assault. But an ideological resistance group could hope to outlast them over years or even decades. And I think that’s something both the Venezuelan and Iranian gov’ts have come to terms with and a reality the US military and foreign affairs are aware of.
Old Taliban saying: Youve got the watches, we’ve got the time
On the subject of landmines, j highly recommend looking up my boy Magawa. He was a giant African pouch rat and mine detecting expert. Pouch rats are smart enough to train, live a pretty long time, and are too small to set off a mine but large enough to keep track of in the field. He won a medal and he looks so cute wearing it! I can't speak to the legitimacy of the NGO behind the Hero Rat program (Apopo). They are Belgian, so there's probably something shady, but a cursory glance suggests they're somewhat more above board than average in this field.
these pictures make me want to cry. i wish magawa could’ve lived forever. sidenote is your pfp martin rev?
at first I was a bit shocked at how little discussion of Trump and his old pal Jeffy there was in this episode, but in retrospect what else is there left to say? the president is a paedophile, everyone knows it, and nobody is going to do a fucking thing about it
Felix begins speaking at 3 minutes and 59 seconds.
I need China to ramp up its space program to increase the chances of select members of our government being hit by falling space debris.
Well that does it, the Donald was playing 4D chess all along
Really disappointed at Trumps drawing skills
Yea, thought it was like a tree on a shitty album cover.
Healing my inner child by going to war with Mexico (my dad used to drink rum and be mean :( )
Hmmmm do you know Chapo methlab?
There’s a show on Amazon with Taylor Kitsch Sheridan Kitsch called The Terminal List:DARK WOLF. The first 20 minutes will fuck you up
Will seemingly describing america as a Terminator shedding its skin without any apparent knowledge of American Prestige's cover art.
There’s a fantastic quote at the end of Disco Elysium from the Deserter; he talks about how capital has to take off the mask of humanity to do the deed (I.e killing everyone you love). I thought of that when Will was talking about the Terminator. The bourgeois are not human.
https://youtu.be/8BhMxqP3lww?si=gwqkr82RzaVN_2Ce
Closing song? Sounds more Thai than Khmer but idk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9prZbM2B7g
I got here as fast as I could, I'm looking for that one guy who always comments saying that Derek is the most uninformed man of all time
Yea exact same (see below for my comment). It’s so relatable because the source of his anger is that he got blocked by Derek’s podcast twitter account or something.
Name of song at the end?
Usually when I set off an alert during a sneaking mission I just restart
Speed boat dope has been sunk.
If JD Vance really wanted to avenge his mother’s pill addiction he should have pushed for drone strikes on the Sackler family.
I would vote for that.
Felix's sleep schedule wrapped around and now we get slop at quittin' time again
That T800 line has been flitting around the corners of my mind for months... I didn't remember it was Matt. Of course it was. The GOAT.
The call is coming from inside the house. White American school teachers make the best drug dealers, as seen on television.
Chapo should really review the movie Enemy of the State if they haven’t already. I was a sigint marine of that era and the tech like stingrays was already quite advanced. I can imagine what the collections gear looks like these days. Makes the “standard training operation” in the movie a really salient thing to consider. https://linas.org/mirrors/cryptome.org/2001.11.13/nsa-ussid18.htm
Ah, you being in the field and all, why wouldn't they just use a drone to emplace a listening device instead of a bunch of guys? This seems like a flimsy cover story.
Ok, I’m a midwit but what is Derek referring to happening in 1949?
I think he meant 1947, both in reference to the Department of Defense being created and the Truman doctrine (international “anti-communist” intervention) being codified.
Is this a fabled Monday Pod Drop?
Except someone is filling in for slop delayed Wade so the episode is out before 2am Tuesday night/morning
Matt Christman predictions don’t “come true”. They are true from the instant of utterance. The rest of us simply require the passage of time to see with his same clarity.
Kushbomb has come unstuck in time
we Love our boy D-D
Is that guy who hates Derek gonna comment?
I'm not that guy, but I don't like Derek. He only has vague insights. A mile wide and an inch deep
Ah, what a blessing
Loving the early episode drops recently!
❤️🔥 DEREK
D Rock in the house. Does anyone call him that? Can I?
YOU JUST DID! 😉 (hell yeah)
GLAD TO SEE EVERYTHING IS GOING GREAT
I love whacking my pud
Go head Derrck!
