961 - The Dogs of War feat. Seth Harp (8/18/25)

Pleased to report that per variety, Seth has secured the bag

Strike at the stop factory?

Where’s the slop? CHRIS WADE = SLOP DELAYED

Hanging out with my old man dog today and having some cognitive dissociation trying to understand how someone could rip out a malinois' teeth and give it dentures to become a more insane breed. Seth Harp is fearless for his reporting.

Slop?

Wait. Have i been saying ‘debacle’ wrong?

Love that the epigraph is a quote from Bubbles’ sponsor. A lil bit of hope before your soul is extinguished by what follows. 🐍 🥃 🇻🇳

Ok

Fascinating

Ive got no where else to comment this so : I was listening to the legendary 1st chapo episode about the Bengazi movie, and Matt said something that blew my mind "the reason that bengazi failed at the box office... is that it ends on this note of loss and mourning and failure... Which makes it a truly fascist text, the fact that its so obsessed with failure and loss and weakness. But thats not what people wanna see" That was recorded almost 10 years ago. This blew my mind because I just finished watching Alex Garland's Warfare which had a much better reception, far better critical and viewer reviews, though it made way less money (16mil vs 8mil opening weekend). Warfare is 90 minutes of SEALS getting their shit rocked by Iraqis after a B&E gone wrong basically. DJ Shipley, famous SEAL influencer, acclaimed this movie and even forced his fuckin wife to watch it. His take was basically 'look how fucked up these wars made us'. In a big way, Warfare is bringing the war home. Very Apropo with Seth's book i think. All this to say : Warfare (2025) episode when?

So what youre telling me is, we are living in the plot of the first Lethal Weapon movie

Is “Indecent Proposal” still so indecent?

Holy fuck the canine dentures stuff is horrifying

My stepdad grew up in Fayetteville during the Vietnam War. His friend’s dad was a Green Beret and after he got home from a tour he bit off and ate a frog’s head in front of him and a bunch of other kids as a goof.

The McRaven mention caught me off guard. Admiral McRaven is famous for a speech he gave at the University of Texas commencement in 2014 which was in fact about making one's bed. I had to watch it more than a few times in communication courses at UT.

Nice of this guest to laugh so politely

i was in stupid English class with all the ROTC kids in my senior year of high school and my teacher assigned us lone survivor for our reading lmao

Black guys aren’t in special forces bc they suck at swimming. It’s not a secret you can ask any black dude in the military and he’ll tell you the same thing

Loving that Steve Earle, Chris.

Really, fellas? “Hogs of War” was right there for an episode title.

Had a friend who went into JSOC post 911 (age 30 no less) and saw all the shit in Iraq. He left after less than 10 yrs noting among other things that as a Jewish guy from NY he was increasingly feeling marginalized due to his status as a non white, non conservative Christian. And other men he worked with, blacks and Latinos, the same. The ‘True Belivers’ as he called them were taking over the officer ranks. Clearly the ‘whites only’ angle mentioned in this interview has become even more of a thing and would be interesting to get more insight how, as an increasingly criminal organization, its members can still square it all w ‘Christian values’. Maybe that’s where all the heroin comes in?

Felix is trying to create the Deltoid Force

I'm in Crete, double dragoning, listening to my homies wishing for for healing vibes

Credit to Will for the most incisive of all the many podcast interviews I’ve heard about this book.

We need to create our own Gamma Force which is one better than delta to stop them

Great interview. Great qs. Good stuff fellas 👍

I would think they're taking HGH in order to boost recovery time. Hard to believe they wouldn't if the idea has already been floated through official channels.

Waiting for that one guy w 5000 word comments to tell me how to feel about this 💅

Mostly good stuff. My only thing is Seth has talked about he thinks JSOC guys are in Ukraine or Gaza, but then doesn't think these "accidents" are cover for them dying in places like Ukraine or Palestine where it would be horrible for the US to admit they have guys involved on that level there when obviously they are. Like in Afghanistan or wherever they are just mostly killing random civilians or untrained people at night they are only gonna average 1 or 2 casualties a year. However, in actual real combat zone like Ukraine when the lowest level guy they would face is still a guy with a year in conscription & then combat experienced they are obviously gonna take more casualties.

Winston Salem mentioned 😝

Incredible urge to line dance at end of episode. Excited to pick up the book!

Wait Will is under 6 foot? Unsubscribed

Steroid tricknology! Yeeeeahhhh

The Amazon search for the real book returns like 7 or 8 fake AI generated book covers as competing listings underneath lol someone is mad

Whenever we talk about these assassination squads able to operate with impunity I'm reminded how badly America needs to lose a direct conventional war as a part of our Century of Humiliation to dispose of this idea that a 6'5" high speed low drag operator with a decade of bastard-training doesn't die like everyone else when faced with a conscript with a stamped-steel high powered semi-automatic. It's like they have the same mentality as cavalrymen going into WW1 thinking they're the untouchable best of the best only to get mowed down by a maxim gun, killing the whole mystique overnight. It'll be the only way we lose the rampant fascist "operator aesthetic" that plagues this country where everyone thinks of themselves as a temporarily embarrassed Navy Seal in shitty Oakleys.

I agree that there is something significant about JSOC being a predominantly white organization, and contributes to them acting as a gang of marauding werewolves. However. I have heard that this is partially due to the rigerous swimming qualifications. Don't shoot the messenger on this.

Alright help me out what the song is plz

in NC in '03 as i & my friends all got strung out everyone speculated that cheap strong dope was ubiquitous there bc it was smuggled in via NYC ports & then driven to NC as the highway junctions there are a natural distribution hub, but that ofc never made sense. also, extremely dumb / fun NC joke band tune abt Fayettenam https://youtu.be/wxXgrVSnx-o?si=BsbT356deQBLCGp1

19:32- is "daybuckle" the way people say "debacle?"

great episode, gonna get the book - but whats the best way to track down the lone survivor/ zdt episodes of the show? i can’t find them by googling or in the patreon app, really curious to listen

This assassination focus did not start in 2007-2008. This is Operation Phoenix from Vietnam and it has never stopped. It’s CIA + Special Forces. 40,000 murders during Vietnam. Read Douglas Valentine’s books. https://www.claritypress.com/book-author/douglas-valentine/

“Alleged Mexican White” goes hard as a band name

“Muhajideen” 😂 it wasn’t Felix this time

Yeah, the US is basically Capitalisms mafia and jsoc are just the Enforcers and attack dogs

King Von's children's book would be about the correct use of playground equipment: How To Slide Correctly

I motion that dogs should NEVER be subjected to this military psychopathy

De-esser ):

Reminds me of the high ranking Nazis who were all addicted to methamphetamines and opiates.

Thank you Seth. Now im one of those guys that say, "I did not now know you could do drug in the military. But you gotta be like hella good".

I will continue to vacillate between 'I would be scared having to fight JSOC guys because they are so evil and ruthless' and 'these guys are one day of withdrawal away from killing themselves and/or drooling on the floor'

"A Mind is a Terrible Thing to Waste" by Rocky the Toothless Gorehound

My dad was once offered to join Delta Force in his service and said he would have taken it if not for caring about our family.... honestly given trainwreck evil that division was I am thankful he even in his centrist oaf-ness made the right decision .3.

New band name dropped..."Alleged Mexican White"

Great interview. Really captures how Shawn Ryan's entire oeuvre is an attempt to white wash the reputation of America's death squads.

Seth said they tend to filter out complete psychopaths for Delta and JSOC operators. It wasn't followed up on so maybe this is a dumb question but why not? Having zero empathy sounds like it would be a benefit for your portfolio.

I did the reading to prep for the episode. Highly recommend. Couldn't stop listening.

Can't believe the episode art is not the cover of the Skipper Seal Make Your Bed book. Major oversight by Chris Wade imo!!!

Immediately bought the (audio) book after the episode ended.

On the special forces being almost exclusively white, the late Glenn Ford who was executive editor with Black Agenda Report talked about how during the Vietnam War a good chunk of the elite units, specifically the air borne were majority black. Ford said during the war the black soldiers in these units started organizing for better treatment and around other issues and he said since the end of the Vietnam War the U.S. army has made sure that elite units are overwhelmingly white.

'Kill List' also comes to mind with Harp's book

fort bragg cartel trying to sell me this fuckin book

I posted something similar when trueanon did “afghan heroin” episode… the thing that’s hard to figure in the heroin situation and actually points to some serious competence in whoever arranged the Afghan to America dope traffic line is the different ways dope is processed. Afghan heroin in Europe is almost always #3 where powdered Mexican dope in America is almost always processed one step further into #4, a salt. (Think crack vs powdered cocaine) This is why you see people “cooking” dope in movies, #3 afghan heroin has to be cooked with some type of citric acid to be injectable, it’s why most people in Europe smoke it off foil. #4 Mexican heroin is already processed that further step and can be mixed into water and injected without cooking. I’ve done powdered heroin in probably ten states around the Midwest/south/east coast and never had to cook it, always could mix it in a Gatorade cap or overturned soda can or the bucket of the needle, pull it through cotton and it’s ready… so my theory is that someone knew a flood of #3 afgan heroin in American markets would point to clear trafficking from a country we were occupying and that they were smart enough to either process it further in Afghanistan, or fly it to Mexico and process it there and traffic it in from Mexico further obfuscating where it was grown… it’s also worth stating that as someone who works in harm reduction currently I do not know of a single American market that has heroin on the street (powdered heroin that is. I think there is still some Mexican tar dope out west). As far as I can tell all heroin in America currently comes from boutique dark web shipments. The street now is entirely very powerful synthetic opiate analogs that are far more dangerous. They also lack the euphoria that came from heroin. It doesn’t even really feel good. It’s just super strong and doesn’t last long. If you have a habit, where heroin could last 8-12 hours before the onset of withdrawal, this stuff is 2-3. You basically do a dose, the first hour you are so fucked up you’re in danger and unconscious, and when you wake up you’re already starting to get sick. But, in my city, a vial of the shit costs $3, so you’re never far from your next dose. What a fucking nightmare. Every step of this “crisis” has been mismanaged. Terrance from trillbillies has done some of the best reporting if this subject interests you. But it’s just remarkable and a perfect stand in of how liberalism can only make things worse. Have an oxycontin overprescribing problem, but for a drug that is easy to dose and safer than street drugs? Make it illegal and cause a heroin epidemic that increases death… have a heroin problem? Eradicate it entirely from your streets and replace it with essentially poison that increases death and disease further… this is what profit incentives do inevitably in every area of our society… but yeah, I’m pretty sure the difference in how heroin is processed from America/mxico and Europe/Afghanistan helped whoever was responsible for the heroin pipeline hide where it was coming from.. if you read all this, thanks, sorry, it feels way long and way all over the place…

I’ve spent time in South America doing anthropology stuff and I’m pretty convinced that the government is preoccupied with just controlling existing drug networks that they control and are only working to nullify start up organizations like fishermen or unaligned cartels. They also produce the fentanyl that is in the USA

we need the ghostbusters to just clean out all the ghosts that haunt the entire national history huh

Seth Harp. So hot right now.

Damn crazy how half my friend group got hooked on Heroin at this exact point in time, interdasting

Do we think CIA Pete helped to come up with the term ‘alleged Mexican white’ as he was helping with heroin logistics during his time at McKinsey…I mean serving our country.

Seth mispronounces "debacle" in a strange and embarrassing way. Felix smiles and nods approvingly.

I love when every podcast i listen to does the same interview lol

Felix needs another deep dive on fucking anything episode. Damn, make thats like a non scripted every 3 - 24 months recurring thing. But then make it shorter in between them so it like every 3 - 6 months, or whatever...(please dont break off and charge another $X a month. You and the related nitwits need to make a network. No one can pay these fucking 25 dollar same ashole every channel podcast shit. We dont need no bake bean fingered freaks in the podcasts

Felix - Aaaaaactually...steroids are pretty ok.

I remember this marine giving me this sarcastic recitation of his master's degree to highlight how ridiculous his study topic sounded and I replied with 'oh yeah, like NGO stuff' and he replied 'yeah that's exactly it' all surprised n shit This was like late 2015-early 2016 so I already had read about the role NGOs played in overthrowing the Ukrainian government at the end of 2013 Can't fool me motherfucker

The most ironic thing about this drugged up soldier death cult operating in fort Bragg is that for all their self-worship over their combat skills, modern combat has proven that a couple nerds with Xbox controllers and a box of drones can hold off a whole division (But hey maybe this won't be true ten years from now who knows)

"when the black helicopter comes, everybody dies" set to marketing music was genuinely ghoulish

Shout out to Brace for avoiding becoming a victim of the GWOT

I love that Felix can’t let steroids come up without bringing up that they’re actually very safe and fine.

insta-classic book, incredibly insane tale

people really want to put their heads in the sand about narco terror being state funded and state sanctioned. This country is three industries in a trench coat and its petrochemicals, weapons and end users for those weapons, and muthafuckin narcotics

tren is bad

Didn’t have a Steve Earle appearance on the bingo card

For the third week in a row true anon and chapo cover the same topic and have the same take

Fucking outstanding! Such a great ep. Thank you boys for bringing Seth front and center. And thank you, Seth, for the work that you’re doing.

Great ep. Seth is a national treasure

I rode my bicycle 22 miles to pick this up. It’s really worth it! It was sold out in the city so I had to ride into the outer rims.

Call it the Bevins effect, when everyone interviews the same author. Seth just needs Trillbillies to complete the cycle.

Just got this bad boy yesterday. Can't wait to feel real fuckin bad!

I was and grew up in north carolina. I cannot describe how omnipresent heroin was in Charlotte in like 2010-2016. It was EVERYWHERE and cheap too

~Well my name’s John Lee Pettimore/ Same as my daddy and his daddy before~

American soldiers are such fucking pussies. The autistics in this chat who LARP as samurai are more impressive than these dog tamers and peasant rapers.

I can't buy this book in Australia, at least in ebook form. 😄 Clever of the US to try and stop its allies from understanding the full horror of the US Empire.

43:35 Yet people still want to pretend the US is using Israel. Like the US is using the oil industry or the banking industry or the weapons industry. LOBBY groups use the US. The US doesn't have the will or capacity to do what China does. Imagine Elon Musk saying about Xi what he said about Trump while being in the country and on his personal platform. Imagine what would happen to him, let alone twitter. The USA is completely hollowed out and nearly every other country on earth is tethered to a rotting worm ridden corpse. It's delusional jingoism. Tbh idgaf about China, but they are a real country making laws on behalf of their own nation state's future. The US is not a real country, and the only reason these guys seem impressive is because they can sit and gather data on targets for months then murder them with impunity. Go do that shit in Russia or a functioning country like China and see what that does to the body count. Mafia didn't get killed that often either murdering random officials pestering them. Everyone is vulnerable when your enemy has satellites, helicopters, and minisubs and you don't know it's coming.

Half way through the book and it’s fantastic

Man, I'm on Dexedrine and I'm barely keeping up at my desk job AND my apartment looks like shit. Tf

Debuckel? Little Carmine wrote this book?

My ONLY criticism of the book is that there’s no mention of how the Call of Duty series has been used to propagandize to young white men and funnel more of them into the special forces by spectacularizing real life American “foreign policy” *cough* Soleimani *cough* actions as good-vs-evil world saving fights.

Felix begins speaking at 4 minutes and 44 seconds tonight

Cry havoc and let slip the hogs of war.

Felix at 4:45 with a Shakespeare reference

What a wonderful day to be named Seth

Let my man rest good lord

Ah yes another Seth harp interview. Liking the book so far Hamas> delta force

Brag is back, in pog form

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