947 - Laugh Now, Cry Later feat. Larry Charles (6/30/25)

Ayy, a good old duck hunt! It’s been years since a duck hunt! Well struck, Chris, well struck.

You can really get a sense of where comedians are on Israel in Palestine from the fact that they will support it openly, but they will almost never make a joke about it. They know that they should be ashamed.

Damn, that's a deep Rick Springfield cut.

I cannot wait for white people to finally be the minority in that country.

Congrats to Felix, finally getting to talk to someone else about Red Fox

I watched Politically Incorrect as a kid, and then Real Time as a young adult during the Iraq War, and I gotta say that Maher's militant atheism has always been more directed against Islam than other religions. Even when he was against the Iraq War he would say things like "these people only understand violence," or talk about muslims as though they were stuck in the middle ages.

When my dad died I texted an old family friend (documentary about her: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyzFSZbKGmo) and after some pleasantries she wrote “I’ll get back to you later, I have another death from yesterday”

the kind of rhetoric that felix discusses at around 1:23:15, the "the region is so troubled and the conflict is so complex, what can we even really do but sit back and let it happen" type handwaving is an extremely prevalent tactic in genocide denial. it's a kind of interpretive denial that's incredibly troublesome because it gives an obligatory acknowledgment to the scale of violence, but recasts it as something other than genocide and thus removes the moral imperative to intervene. it also lends the genocide an air of proportionality and inevitability: that these conflicts are somehow ancient and unavoidable and that there's a back and forth between the two parties such that neither can truly be considered the victim. these rhetorical tactics are extremely reminiscent of those that were deployed as yugoslavia dissolved and the bosnian genocide was carried out. there were rampant ideas about how ancient and omnipresent and inscrutable balkan ethnic hatreds were and behind this veil atrocities like that of srebrenica were allowed to unfold with un dutch peacekeepers literally handing over 8000 civilians to be slaughtered. it's sickening that this same kind of rhetoric is being trafficked 3 decades later to try to absolve the same powers from their duty to intervene

Reminds me of Richard Herring telling the comedian he was sharing a flat with at the Edinburgh Festival "Im glad your Dad is dead". When he returned to the flat after finding out his Dad was dead. And everything Jerry Sadowitz has ever done. Forbidden.

Don’t defend yourselves against those abundance fools Chris. Their whole project is in bad faith so it’s pretty rich coming from them

"we want to be taken seriously by the funny podcast without first taking it seriously enough to send a email"

@58:15 there it is. As soon as he said that the person wouldn't accept his apology, I told myself 'if this doesn't end with the Curb theme music I'll cancel my Chapo Patreon'. Also, Bruno >> Borat IMHGO (the G is for Gay)

Did Felix say “that Latin aggression” lol

Fantastic interview, great guy I knew nothing about and very relieving to hear one of these old guard guys talk sense about Israel etc. But I do find it kind of disappointingly inescapable that Borat is invective against Muslims or at least Kazakhs; but undeniably funny & they explore that uneasiness in this interview so I get the nuance. The Dictator kinda sucked too, but I watched it with my Muslim roommate at the time and he LOVED it--but he also had very bad taste lol

Larry has a musician daughter, Pearl. The Magic Mirror album is a personal favorite of mine.

Probably would have been a better look to not go so hard on the intro. Less is more

GET THEY ASSES CHRIS

They could always try to send out an abbundance of emails

Absolutely fantastic interview. and very lovely that Larry Charles is such a considerate and political human being and willing to talk about all of these things. Bravo.

I am once again asking what happened to the grey wolf tax dodge tier?

Will you guys quit promoting that idiot Josh mentum or whatever his name is? He’s a lib clown and you guys look like lib clowns when you promote him.

now THAT'S how you do a cold open

Laughed at Felix's pronunciation of fie-nite, fin-nite!! Will has trained himself out of his former Zsa Zsa Gabor pronunciation of raah-ther, kudos. (Love you guys, gotta love the glitches too.)

Talk to em Chris

Uhhhhhh... "No Parasan"? Did nobody catch this?

if you want to enjoy a podcast that entertains the abundance dullards, check out doomscroll who has recently posted some massive hits: - a woman you can smell through youtube - francis fukuyama - academics that have spent a full decade getting mad at woke - a JD vance lookalike with a heart of gold

Does anybody know the guy who Felix is talking about at 1:17:07?

Great interview with Larry. Crazy no mention that his house burned down in January palisades fire. Much love to Larry

I don’t know anything about the abundance stuff but I do know Chris is getting way too big for his damn britches. He think he Hollywood. Humble him immediately.

It's funny that their understanding of humor touches on part of the proposed biology for why we laugh. I come from a neuroscience background and part of the hypothesis for early laughter was that it was a kind of subconscious "it's all right" group message. The classic example is always primitive man hearing a bush rustle and immediately being struck with fear it's a predator. One would go investigate only find it to be the wind and laugh at the circumstance which immediately disarms the rest of the group of their anxiety.

One of my favorite interviews so far, instant classic

I remember Kaufman on Fridays and it did not seem To go well and Michael Richardson did not seem like he was finding any of it funny when he went and got the script and dropped it on Andy’s head and said something about here are your lines… Maybe that was supposed to go that way but I dunno

Go off king!!! 👑

Insanely good episode, absolutely loved Dangerous Comedy and thought it was one of the best documentary series, felt like it was watching Parts Unknown but with a comedy perspective instead of food. Wish he'd make more

This reminded me that I also saw borat in theaters with my mom. I was like 11 and saved up singles and quarters to go see it, and my mom was willing to take me. People kept leaving the theater early, but we stayed the whole way through

Is part of the reason for posting stuff like this the need to believe that what they find funny is somehow elevated beyond mere entertainment? That, say, a dumb candid-camera style gross-out comedy like Borat (hey, whatever, if that's your thing) must be of some greater importance than it is if they like it?

hell yeah chris

CHRIS RANT CHRIS RANT CHRIS RANT

I guess that for all their supposed cynicism they genuinely believed that good entertainers must be of a higher moral order than other people--that being able to be funny requires that the performer be intrinsically at some higher point of moral development.

great episode - time to go veg boys! But, why no stories from Virgil lol?

Where's my man Mantan Moreland???

Real talk. Filipino people are maybe the most homophobic people on the planet.

more chris rants please fuck them dudes that shit got me hyped

how bout an abundance of my nuts on your chin gotem

Abundance deez nuts

kudos to your mom

Those abundance weasels pulled the same shit on the Majority Report! I think it was Ezra, but one of them publicly claimed that nobody from the left would have them on, mentioning MR specifically. Sam Seder responded on air with a, 'we haven't seen anything from you, but maybe that's because we're very disorganized,' and offered to have him on the show, which is how the Sam vs Ezra abundance debate came about. Given that the MR email is, in fact, disorganized, I gave Ezra the benefit of the doubt, but NO MORE! That is shady as fuck

Great interview. Always hated Borat (too much punching down) but did enjoy watching Bruno while living in Berlin in a theater full of Germans who did not know what to do with themselves 😅

Never ever take any shit from these people. Good work, Chris.

Snaps to the boys for the petty assholery. 💅🏾

This episode is balls

If you didn't tell me who the guest was I'd think it was Dolan. Vocal twins.

FUCK THE ABUNDACRATS

Get their asses, Chris!!!!

Larry David taught me how to be a man also

To answer Will‘s question about race and humor, I think we all know that white people drive a car like this but Black people they drive a car like this

Can confirm Chris is shockingly easy to get in touch with for somebody with a platform of his size. When the dry boys did their southern tour a couple years ago, I reached out to ask if my DSA chapter could table at the show. Not only did Chris promptly reply and agree, he offered to have us double as a merch table in exchange for a portion of the profits. He gave me his unlocked phone with a square reader attached before going on stage for ~2 hours and followed through on his donation. Genuinely a very accessible dude

Lol, did Larry call Felix 'Matt' at the end?

I like it when the jokes are explained why their funny good podcast episode. Next one on how sausage is made pls

some of those redd foxx albums really are great

Oh I KNOW you didn’t just say my Ohio boy isn’t nice

Chris, we don’t want the explanation of how CTH was actually extremely professional to abundance guys, we want you to give them da middle finger brother

I interviewed Chris once in college (see WXVU radio’s YouTube) and he was incredibly gracious and easy to work with. The fact the abundance guys got him tight demonstrates their lack of professionalism. Genuinely pretty shocking to lie about that

Isn’t Larry Charles a known collaborator on Sacha Baron Cohen’s Zionist claptrap?

Get they ass Chris

I listened to the abundance guys appearance on pod save america and it's stunning how intellectually lazy the whole thing is if you think about it for more than ten seconds. "we need to deregulate the housing market to increase supply and lower home costs!" okay, there are already tons of empty houses in America and institutional investors would prefer to sit on them rather than contribute to a lowering of the market rate by selling for less, how do you fix that via the free market? "we need to deregulate the housing market to increase supply and lower home costs!" it's all just reheated third way neoliberal politics for and by people that are professionally motivated to keep this total dud of an ideology in the conversation.

Chris opener!!! LETSGOOOOO!

Death! Death! Death to the IDF!

Damn Chris tell us how u really feel

GET EMMMM CHRIS!!!!

I have a newfound sympathy for Larry Charles, literal in the sense that despite being in my late thirties, I only had a vague awareness of him adjacent to my limited experience with the work of Larry David, etc. (i.e. being a foreigner who grew up foreign), for both the obvious challenges he faces in being, and staying funny (something I don’t think I’ve accomplished, even by my own nationality’s standards), but having to come to terms with something I already had a sense of when I first came to the United States 20 years ago, and certainly knew ten years ago: Sacha Baron Cohen was always a raging Islamophobe and Zionist. He certainly was the first time I saw BORAT, which I won’t claim wasn’t funny in the essential sense of how it strove to be “funny”; that is, the essential joke at the start, though not the end, of the character of Borat Sagdiyev, is that Kazakhs or Kazakhstanis, to a mostly western and overwhelmingly Anglophone audience, are slightly more fake a people than, say, hobbits or wookiees. Whereas to anyone born and educated in the Sinophone world, there’s just a foreign (or not so foreign, depending on where you are) people with a foreign language that, unlike an American, you actually might meet and interact with sometime in your lifetime not by means of a rich Jewish Briton playing a meticulously crafted quasi-Romanian incestuous rapist. They’re no more imaginary than, say, Mexicans or Filipinos or Egyptians, and their admittedly-foreign homeland no more imaginary than Mexico or the Philippines or Egypt (unless you’re one of the million or so Kazakhs living in China, then you’re just one of them). What that means is that the opening salvo of BORAT’s comedy arsenal, extensive and devastating as it is, lands like a wet fart on a jumbotron basically anywhere in Asia: is it funny? Sure, it can be. Is it loud? Absolutely. Is it a work of genius? No. It’s just slapstick racist yellowface, in a not-exactly-short tradition of American and English yellowface comedy. Maybe Larry—and Cohen---deserve more credit for the comedic vehicle that manages to exist around an otherwise kind of boring concept (and it really shines a light on Larry’s reflection of the success of BORAT versus the BRUNO; imagine, if you can, “Central Asians” being almost as real as vaguely “Germanic homosexuals” to Americans). To quote a Russian friend of mine who watched BORAT, and mostly liked it, “It’s still pretty funny, but that part of the joke doesn’t work here (or anywhere a million Kazakh people live and you can eat their cuisine, read their social media or see them on television).” Would I have found it funnier if I hadn’t already seen people from Kazakhstan on television and found they looked like me (or more accurately, one of my nieces or cousins?). As Will immediately identified: comedy is so utterly subjective and temporal. An unfunny foreigner from what I think CHAPO TRAP HOUSE wisdom would hold as a generally unfunny part of the world (secular, atheist, or Daoist Asia: not funny; Muslim or Catholic Asia: funny) would heartily agree, and I’m left wondering if that’s why I never had a “scales falling from my eyes” moment re: Cohen that Larry, and the seeming majority of Americans I’ve known who’ve at least enjoyed his comedy, seem to have realizing that, funny as it was, it was also comedy from an fanatical Zionist who wasn’t convinced Muslims were human like he was (and certainly not imaginary Kazakhs, who are only as real as Dhampir or Jedi). While I award myself a shiny gold star sticker for being more farsighted than the Chapo boys, or one of the most highly successful and accomplished American comedy writers with a career going back to before my birth, I’m obligated to add: it doesn’t mean Cohen's not actually funny (to the right audience). All evidence bears out that he is. Racist or bigoted humor has always been funny (to the right audience), just ask the producers of Looney Tunes or any other of those fabled pre-war American cartoonists. Look at very specific, very black-faced character from Will’s beloved DRAGON BALL Z; it’s certainly not just “an American thing.” As I’ve told others when I’ve aired the above complaint, “Laughing at a racist joke isn’t exactly laudable, but it’s not a war crime or ethic cleansing,” which only seems more relevant since 2023. And I don’t think you accomplish much or anything by holding the audience themselves to account for it. You can’t really argue with “MAH WAIFE!” having taken a Chapelle-esque place of honor in the eternal Anglophone comedy pantheon. We may’ve fucked over a couple generations of Kazakh athletes who have to listen to the theme from the show in lieu of their national anthem any time they place for a medal, but to United States of Burger, it was worth it. So, a good episode I wasn’t really expecting to enjoy. Well done, boys. And of course, my applause to Chris, our warrior-editor in the trenches. Keep fighting the actual good fight against the abundance evangelists.

there's a great performance artist comedian who used crack to get the juice flowing, he was called Rob Ford

Chris truth nuke

I love Chris. I love the sassiness and I love the refusal to engage with the abundance bullshit.

another reason could be their closeness to the black americans they kicked out the neighborhoods to accommodate them from Poland and Russia, stole their fear constantly and unresolved fear of death in America. Or it could be the Talmud or temple that makes them funny too.

I cannot imagine an episode with the abundance guys that wasn't horribly uncomfortable— that didn't end with Felix in a simmering rage needling them on every point they make. (Maybe they should have had those dorks on, after all.)

I too love tapping a forbidden place... like Felix's mom! heyooooo 😏

I've been hooting for a duck hunt. Call back

WOAH the director of Religulous!

Good ol duck hunt

Why are the terms good faith bad faith all over the place right now?! That and perimenopause.

This conversation is very cathartic and it's wonderful to have a little intellectual break from the news. Also, Catch-22 is an incredible novel, highly recommend

You know what really grinds my gears?? Plump Quacking Abundance Ducks!!

Overburdened to the point of only self-sympathy. That’s a very good observation

Thank you Chris for choosing not to platform these abundance radicals and their extreme centrism. May their ridiculous agenda die in obscurity.

Chris lowkey nice w it

Chris putting the righteous in righteous indignation. Man’s nice, but you’ll never know now. Sad!

Bless Chris for doing the work of being personable. I've always said he is the Michael Jordan of the show.

Did you ask him what he thought of Seinfeld’s girlfriend in 1993?

Chris is NICE!!!!!!

If you google Derrick, the AI says he killed 5 people in a car crash last year. (not true, still funny to pretend tho)

Chris “I’m Nice” Wade woke up and chose abundant violent.

The big takeaway today is that Chris still has a Facebook. Dude, what are you doing? I deleted mine the same day I read Sean Parker quoted as saying we knew what we were doing. We knew it was wrong. We did it anyway. That was in 2018, I'm pretty sure.

this intro had me clacking an ugly little fan & screaming YAAAAAS DIVA GO OFFFFF DRAG HA i knew you’re a real one chris <3

This episode got me to finally read The Crowd by Gustave le Bon

Why would you intro an episode with multiple murders?

Incredible pronunciation of the word finite from Felix

Chris opened a can of whoop ass on those abundant frauds. Also that Armand guy is a creepy looking weirdo

It wouldn’t be a Lib project if they weren’t bitching about this show dissing them somehow by not soft pedaling their bullshit for them.

fuck yeah chris cook that fraud

The delusion of Abundance shit libs, just you know... In general.

Starting with gossip? PERIOD

Wow this is one for the books (incl Chris intro), love you guys

Did he mention Eugene Ionesco? Wild

This is an excellent podcast. Ty boys

Had a wee look on the website for the chapo comic. Couldn't find it. Anyone else have any luck?

Chris OMG

Felix begins speaking at 5 minutes and 57 seconds

Great!

What a balm. Thanks Larry Charles for being the hero I needed 👍🏻

Talk that shit Chris!

To the point at the very end about Gaza and the absurd propaganda vid of the „Gaza humanitarian foundation“ I am reminded when Hakim (from the depropgram boys) told this story of growing up in Iraq during the war. Once an Abrahams tank stopped in his family’s garden and the soldier getting out of the hatch had a lollipop in his mouth. They exchanged confused looks.

Felix’ excitement when Larry brought up Red Fox was palpable

I like his point about density and a rich public life turning Kingston into a musical center and Brooklyn into a comedy center. I am seeing this with my son and soccer in a pretty dense European city. The kid plays literally 7 days a week. It is a game that can be played in some capacity on pretty much any surface. So he will meet the other kids on the street and just have a quick game of keep away or one on one. The multiplier affect of an entire city breathing the game just emphasizes the difference between an organic football culture and an astroturfed version that exploits wealth and access to try to achieve the same ends.

When you piss off Chris, you've done fucked up. With that music library of his, he probably knows 100 million killer diss tracks.

epic cold open

Show starting with angry Chris goes hard

I would be kind of pissed if you guys had me listen to some bullshit about abundance. The chancery court crisis was bad enough. Glad valuable spite was extracted from this. Armand, fuck you for trying to make us listen to that bullshit.

Abundance libs on life support, Chris Wade sought for questioning

An abundance of idiocy

Derek Thompson has a 14 year old’s ideas for the future & fashion.

Fuck the abundance guys

Fucking get him Chris. Disgustingly pathetic behavior

man I know it wasn't the point but I lost it when Larry said "Felix's mom; a forbidden place!" great interview lol

Chris's voice is so smooth I can listen to him shut down closeted neoliberals all night

I think the pre-order link might need some correcting, it seems to take one to the good egg launch page but no preorder for anything called year zero nor chapo

"It taps into a forbidden place, like Felix's mom" 💀

Get ‘em, Chris!

literally watching the pez dispenser as i got this notification omg i’m so excited

I’ve been a fan of Larry Charles’ work ever since I found out he did Dilbert with Scott Adams. P.S. the Seinfeld DVD commentary tracks make for excellent sleep ASMR, take my word for it. P.P.S the thumbnail is from the premiere of Religulous, the last time Bill Maher was an entertaining shitstain, as opposed to just a shitstain.

God bless ya Chris

God DAMN rip em

Fuck yeah Chris!!!

hell yeah