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March 25, 2025

919 - Abruendance Agenda feat. Madinah Wilson-Anton & Matt Bruenig (3/24/25)

Delaware state rep Madinah Wilson-Anton returns to the show to brief us on Elon Musk’s attempts to rewrite the state laws of Delaware to help him secure a $50 billion+ compensation package. We discuss the “race to the bottom” in state business laws, and the new wave of assaults on basic legal legitimacy in pursuit of complete oligarchical control.

Then, Matt Bruenig joins us to discuss the hot new word on all the wonks’ lips: ABUNDANCE. We review the Abundance Agenda, Matt gives us his takes on the policies, and we evaluate the Abundance potential as a viable organizing principle for the moribund Democratic party.

Check out NLRB Edge, Matt’s labor law newsletter: https://www.nlrbedge.com/  

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etienne · April 28, 2025

dunking on "cost disease" is also pretty annoying given that it's nerd-speak for the phenomenon of "everybody is on the computer doing email jobs and nothing real is getting done" but fine, I'm at the anti-intellectual shitpost podcast getting my caveman takes

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Robimbo Robamacop · April 8, 2025

Dunno how the hell these movie sickos didn't have the "place of abundance" screencaps from Furiosa

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mo · April 4, 2025

USA is already the richest country ever. Is it not yet in Abundance?

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Robert Aitken · April 2, 2025

the aBruendance agenda? I thought it was called Project 2025! folks…

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Cyclops giraffe · April 2, 2025

If institutions of the post WWII era are this easily torn down maybe some of the 9/11 era institutions like ice or anything else set up for that aren't that hard to take down either?

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FoxLord · April 1, 2025

Matt should come back and talk about what’s going on with the NLRB right now. Including the agency violating its own employees’ contract rights

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Alex · March 29, 2025

So funny, this abundance shit is what Elon was saying 10 years ago. Which means in 10 years Ezra Klein is going to be replying “🤔” to Swedish phrenology accounts on twitter

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Patrick Allen · March 28, 2025

Commenters writing they couldn’t care less as the DE Court of Chancery are exactly why the significant percentage of know-nothing edgelords in this comment section are so tiresome. The lack of intellectual curiosity aside, the idea that tech bros have moved from judge shopping to designing their own court system from the ground up is so concerning prima facie it shouldn’t need explaining to anyone with a basic class consciousness.

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DocHaus · March 28, 2025

Can't believe they would talk about the Abundance agenda without explaining how Yaoshi will turn entire worlds into undying zombies in the guise of a gift. Rather than worship the Plagues' Author, we should turn to the glorious Reignbow Arbiter, Lan of the Hunt, and unite our world around a singular purpose.

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drunk cig · March 28, 2025

That's facts

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Ian Firstenberg · March 28, 2025

Abundance contains within it a bigness

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Logan Ausherman · March 28, 2025

As much as the Chapo boys talk about wanting to move on from the democratic party they sure do love to have on democrats and hope they'll come up with a social democratic answer to the Republicans. Where is the revolutionary perspective here? Its incredibly myopic and speaks to the petty bourgeois background of the boys, it also speaks to the malign influence of the DSA on the American left more broadly.

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I was saying boo-lania · March 31, 2025

Start a revolution so they can talk about it

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casey · March 27, 2025

Thank you for this … listened to it as I drove through Delaware to visit family. msnbc mom was immediately activated by the word “Elon.” her vote is ours

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Conor O'Neil · March 27, 2025

Keep bringing Medinah on and/or other Eagles fans that make Eagles metaphors so I can understand what’s going on

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I am become reply guy · March 27, 2025

Oops! All abundance

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Shane Baker · March 27, 2025

The for-profit motive in housing is one of the main reasons housing prices don’t really stabilize or decrease. At least in desirable places like the Bay Area. When prices start to level out or even drop, developers can’t promise big enough returns, they can’t attract investors, banks stop lending, and new housing starts grind to a halt. Once prices start to increase again, suddenly there doesn’t seem to be a problem finding land or money to build. We saw this with the Great Recession in particular. Projects were halted or cancelled for 6 or 7 years. Clearly the hurdles of neighborhood associations, zoning, etc make it more expensive and difficult to build and therefore you need to make more profit to justify the project to investors. But that’s not the whole story.

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Žiga Iglič · March 27, 2025

Abundance is basically Elon Musk & Tesla: Promising some amazing new future, while selling personal vehicles and the capitalists make lots of money.

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Johan Gambolputty · March 27, 2025

I really feel like no one’s touched on the fact that Ezra Klein was born and raised in Irvine, CA, and has apparently had no critical thoughts about the master planned, fully incorporated city. For me, it at least informs a great deal about his ideology re: city planning, or whatever the fuck this book is.

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Oliver Elliott · March 27, 2025

Re dumb books’s intro: 25% of earth’s landmass used for livestock? That can’t be right or even close to right.

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Mangomoosh · March 27, 2025

if you count the corn needed to feed them it might be possible not sure how they're skewing their numbers but that just came to mind.

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pelicans123 · March 27, 2025

Madinah

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Yeah but in my defense · March 27, 2025

Love Madinah. Podcast needs more Eagles callouts.

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Kinetics Video · March 27, 2025

I think you guys hit on the actual purpose of this thing when it was pointed out how this seems to be pointed at blue state policy. I think it's wrong to contrast this with Bernie's Russiagate Washouts rallies, because the Abundance Agenda isn't even trying to rebrand the Democratic Party to take on MAGA. MAGA has won, or at least won against any version of the Democratic Party that will be allowed to exist. The Abundacrats are pitching themselves to Trump, Musk, and their successors as the overseers of their campaign to stamp out resistance to the new lords of the Federal Government in the coastal states. The test of their success is not if they can Frankenstein together Obama and Sam Bankman Freid and run him in 2028, it's if Peter Thiel is convinced to buy a CA governor that makes NIMBYism as illegal as Palestinian solidarity.

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Khemith · March 27, 2025

Very good points. The elite will merge to create the final technological moat of American capitalism to stop the inevitable popular uprising (which will be too late). The final comedic end to the coddling of the middle class.

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Jacob · March 27, 2025

We're turning into a neofuedal state.

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Khemith · March 27, 2025

That's being optimistic. The flesh will be stripped from the machine.

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Alex Weber · March 27, 2025

Was talking to one of my lib friends who’s a journalist and he unironically called Ezra Klein a “wünderkind” lol

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Logan Ausherman · March 28, 2025

How are you friends with someone that insufferable?

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Kinetics Video · March 27, 2025

This sounds like they want a dozen new Elizabeth Holmeses

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Robert Aitken · April 2, 2025

I know I do

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Michael Karrer · March 27, 2025

LOW KEY MVP??!!!! How dare she besmirch the one and only MVP JOSH F’ING ALLEN!!!

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I was saying boo-lania · March 31, 2025

Allen is a DEI mvp. It should've been lamar or saquon

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Oliver Clozov · March 27, 2025

fully-automated luxury neoliberalism. my god

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Shane-A112 · March 26, 2025

we must fight for the good future. the future where the glorious people's republics of Maryland, and Pennsylvania subsume Delaware

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Mangomoosh · March 26, 2025

people who eat absolute dog shit "not being sure " about lab grown meat is hilarious.

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Brendan Kneeland · March 26, 2025

“Abundance” sounds like an AppleTV show

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Kelley · March 27, 2025

A BUN DANCE. I can’t get Liz’s voice out of my head

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Soy Jim · March 26, 2025

‘Abundance’ is truly prophetic- for China. Meanwhile the West will deregulate back to feudalism (and not even ‘techno’ feudalism). Invest in land and little else.

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Kamran Husain · March 26, 2025

landlords are real jobs lawyers are pathetic street urchins

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Paul Lemaire · March 26, 2025

The Democrats changed their minds and decided that Coppola's Megalopolis was actually a good and insightful film. And that Adam Driver's character's vision offers a blueprint for the future. If you don't know what I'm talking about, definitely do see it. I actually unironically think it's a masterpiece and great delve into the bizarre mind of a confused Obama nostalgic boomer suffering from mania. In a nutshell, it's the "fountainhead" for neo-libs, where the hero is a reincarnation of Robert Moses. Adam Driver's character is the tortured mad genius architect of Gotham city who will resurect it from its Roman decadence, and save it both from MAGA populism and the festering remains of the New Deal, by removing red tape and building the city's Solar Punk future out of thin air : And they lived Happily Ever After in the Hudson Yards. Really do see the film, it's incredible.

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Soy Jim · March 26, 2025

Pretty accurate summary

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Dylan · March 26, 2025

Never thought I would see democrat Duginism

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Kinetics Video · March 27, 2025

Hey, get out of here, I'm dugin'

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MATT TRIANO · March 26, 2025

TAX BILLIONAIRES that's how it happens

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Carolyn · March 26, 2025

I’m sorry but “Abundance” is the most cult coded name they could have chosen

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MKatieUltra · March 26, 2025

Abundance sounds so like the snake oil language in “manifesting”/The Secret, I wonder if that was on purpose

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Nathan · March 26, 2025

The skyscraper greenhouse thing is a big tell the authors didn’t seriously look into anything. It’s expensive to build a skyscraper and farming just isn’t profitable enough to justify that cost.

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Kinetics Video · March 27, 2025

I think the premise of this thing is that the work and materials of building are actually completely free and it's only policy obstacles that prevent us building skyscrapers across the globe

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Neal · March 26, 2025

Flubber is gonna be awesome

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Alex Thorne · March 26, 2025

First they came for the delaware chancery court

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cmurder26 · March 26, 2025

Matt Bruenig, husband of the woman who believes abortion should be illegal?

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Joseph · March 26, 2025

Listen childmurder26 personally, I think we should kill all children but to build a coalition sometimes we have to reach across the aisle. Work with the opposition, that’s why the Bruenigs have been stalwarts of democratic politics for 20 plus years

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MTH · March 26, 2025

Really thought she was about to say Delaware situation is like the Greece financial crisis of 2015 and I was listening eagerly to see what she meant. Whoops, wrong Grease.

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DJC583 · March 26, 2025

1:08:15 It's not that complicated to explain why rent-control is a terrible idea. 1. If rent stays artificially low, people stay in their apartments longer, even if they don’t need as much space. This means fewer units are available for newcomers, creating long waiting lists and forcing people into informal housing arrangements. In New York, rent-controlled units are rarely available, leading to cramped illegal sublets and a rise in homelessness. This is empirically verified to happen when rent-control is instituted. 2. Since rent-controlled apartments are in short supply, demand for the non-controlled apartments in a city skyrockets. This leads to higher rent for everyone else and increases housing inequality. In Berlin, rent control policies led to black markets for leases and skyrocketing prices for non-controlled apartments. 3. As Matt Bruenig says, rent control caps the price landlords can charge, making rental property less profitable. Developers then build fewer rental units, and some landlords convert rentals into condos or Airbnbs. Matt's response "you can just solve that with regulation" or "it only applies to existing properties not new ones" is kicking the can down the road and is kind of the whole point being debated. Rent-control sucks because it's terrible at trying to solve the problem it claims to. The best way to reduce rent is to just build more housing and have stronger market regulations. Not by trying to artificially set price-ceilings.

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Nathan · March 26, 2025

You’re assuming a natural price for rent that doesn’t exist. Or, in other words, rent is kept “artificially high” by lack of housing. It’s not a law of the universe that rent increases year after year; it is a specific policy choice we have made by not building housing where people want to live.

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Mungo Franczak · March 26, 2025

The last time we had “wacky doctors”, they were working as SS “scientists” and members of Unit 731

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Joseph · March 26, 2025

Abundance is not a new vision, it is the same vision from Obama’s time in office which was the same vision from the Reagan era. It’s a sales pitch for deregulation disguised as infrastructure projects.

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Doug Cartel · March 26, 2025

I cant wait to receive my ozempic via orbital strike so that I have more free time to come up with ridiculous financial schemes

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Kelley · March 27, 2025

This is bullshit, I lost 20lbs on wegovy and I don’t have any financially profitable schemes. I’ve been conned

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bruce · March 26, 2025

The most annoying thing about abundance is that Democrats apparently only have two modes: not talking about policy at all, or bogging themselves down in hyper specificity to the point of becoming incomprehensible to any normal person

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hamburglar · March 26, 2025

It’s because they think everything is already mostly perfect, and anything that isn’t perfect is marginal and can be fixed by “nudges” and public-private partnerships aka deputizing private companies to run rent extraction schemes on public goods

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Karim El-Hayawan · March 26, 2025

Medina is a prime example of a labor aristocrat and class traitor. She does not pursue the interests of her class but the interests of a subsection that are almost always align with global capital. No one should fucking care about Delawareans. Her bitch ass has no right to call herself a "leftist".

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Jaime Christley · March 26, 2025

Oh lighten up

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K H · March 26, 2025

My brain was so fried trying to absorb caring about shareholders I missed the banger WeWork Paul Atreides. That's exactly what Ezra is.

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flex guattari · March 26, 2025

Ezra Klein got a copy of “Half-Earth Socialism” from a secret Santa then “yes and”ed the structure of it into a late Obama state of the union

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flex guattari · March 26, 2025

https://frnsys.itch.io/half-earth-socialism for the gamers

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Noctor · March 26, 2025

Re: Delaware court thing; hard to care about this story other than it seems regular folk in Delaware are in for a rough time. If I can take one thing from it is this is a division the corporate and oligarchical class; culture war for the bourgeoisie. I feel like this should be encouraged/exacerbated if possible; it’s been their strategy with the working class for ever now and with great success for them. Idk how you could do that without having editorial control over The NY Times or Bloomberg…so basically the CIA.

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bruce · March 26, 2025

if you think billionaires basically being able to set themselves up to play both sides of chancery and rob their own corporations is nbd you have a child’s politics.

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Aaron · March 26, 2025

We could already live in this fantasy land if we didn’t go to Korea or Vietnam or Iraq or Afghanistan or fund countless wars around the globe for 80 years . Funny how giving money to Isreal isn’t politically popular but they do it anyway.

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pq · March 26, 2025

I love a good old-fashioned Felix jump scare

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C. Ries · March 26, 2025

Abundance Agenda literally can be rephrased into Supply Side Economics

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B b · March 26, 2025

It’s worth noting that they were writing that book before the election was over. This is the fantasy they wanted to try to sell to the Harris admin. Now these dorks have to hawk their book to sell deregulation while Republicans/DOGE is doing deregulation and the country hates them for it.

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Ryan · March 26, 2025

Wow good point. I wonder if it crosses the authors' minds that these people (voters) hate them.

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J P 3 · March 26, 2025

This "Abundance" crap is just repackaged 1990s Third Way bullshit. The New Dems whole sales pitch was "if we just grow the pie" you don't have to worry about the distribution question. Bill Clinton "era of Big Government is Over" is just another version of "we just need to cut the red tape". Let's do "public-private partnerships" but just on an even larger scale. A real sign of progress will be when the Democratic Party is actually rooted in working class politics, and people like Ezra Klein, Matt Yglesias, and Derek Thompson and their donor networks are fighting a rear-guard action in the Republican Party trying to pitch Republican voters on the "Abundance" agenda as a means of diverting the Republicans from their regressive social policy vision.

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Miss Alex · March 26, 2025

so the “everyone wants to live in roku city” philosophy is actually a neoliberal position. who knew! tbf it does look pretty sweet

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Sean · March 26, 2025

Yeah, the vision seems fun, the second you touch on the methods to get there, i.e., what we would actually see, it becomes clear that its just more of what they would already be doing

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Agent Grange · March 26, 2025

When I was a kid I used to really like looking at the pictures in Popular Science magazines thinking that we'd get the technology promised in them in, like, five years because some idea guy made a shitty 3D rendered concept image. This is like the Democratic party making that their entire platform.

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Ryan · March 26, 2025

The "society in 2100 if x didn't happen" meme but as a platform

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smooth trill player · March 26, 2025

fully automated luxury communism was published in 2019 and fuck ezra klein

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Gert · March 26, 2025

Do you think Aaron B, unlike these abundance goons, knows that soap is not a recent invention and is in fact a product of the ancient world know to many many many many civilizations and probably predates writing.

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Jon · March 26, 2025

The Abundance of today is the Knowledge Economy of 1990

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Will · March 26, 2025

Has anything good ever come after someone said ‘I’m a leftist, but…’?

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justdave · March 26, 2025

...sex?"

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Liquidated Damages · March 26, 2025

The bit about rewilding in the Abundance fantasy section that got me was that ag land will not “re-wild” on its own. Without literal armies of workers to restore all that land, it’ll fill with whatever smorgasbord of local exotic invasive plant species that will inevitably choke out the native flora and fauna

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Patrick Jones-O'Brien · March 27, 2025

Its already happened many times over

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Damen Irving · March 25, 2025

This is just a very circuitous way the dems are trying to win back Silicon Valley. And just like the way they tried to win maga voters last time, they’ll fail again bc, as Will said, why choose skim milk when full fat’s on tap?

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ERIC · March 25, 2025

We now need president Nick Mullen more than ever.

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Matelda · March 25, 2025

Capping attorney fees in prisoner civil rights litigation has been very successful in preventing any semblance of accountability in the human warehouse industry

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🤷🏼‍♀️ · March 25, 2025

This abundance shit sounds a lot like what the new director of Trumps DOE says, all this hot air about "energy abundance".

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eduard karpoev · March 25, 2025

Recession indicator is companies trying to rig the courts for when they go under lol

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Christopher Girard · March 25, 2025

People are going to Bernie rallies because they are desperate. Lots of Americans are dying young under 45+ years of austerity. We are experiencing something similar to what the U.S.S.R. experienced during its collapse. Work has no value. You work your whole life faithfully only to have it all snatched from you or never having been offered anything for that work in the first place. Nepo-babies and careerists have no concept of how little the soul-crushing day to day work of keeping the society running benenefits those who do it.

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Tea for the Tillerman · March 25, 2025

100%. I have a recurring dream where I’m kind of wandering confused around an empty concrete campus and it’s cloudy out and I vacillate between boredom and frustration and I realized oh that’s just waking life too.

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Griffon Simms · March 25, 2025

"A piece of found audio in a Bioshock game". Fucking nailed it. Holy shit. What a stupid fucking bull shit book. Against the wall boys. You did bad.

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Sean · March 25, 2025

"please help us win the attractivist race to the bottom" How about: fuck off? Kindly? Of course you will "easily" reconcile your previous beliefs with your immediate interests...the hard part of living is *not" doing so and *choosing*! Wake up!!!

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Cyborg Cowboy · March 25, 2025

🚨SHAMELESS PLUG🚨If anybody is interested in seeing a perspective on the Tucson Rally, I wrote a short diddy on it: https://open.substack.com/pub/jadedprescription/p/bernie-aoc-tucson-rally-performative?r=2m1he2&utm_medium=ios If you like that I also do a podcast with my friend: https://open.spotify.com/show/1dsJVQcwGoliOxrPvgF4Br?si=5VSfyPvvQXu9TTCUq4q6wA

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Ian · March 25, 2025

Wasn't the abundance comms strategy just Biden's shtick? He said multiple times that we were going to cure cancer.

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Marc Silverstein · March 25, 2025

Fully Automated Luxury Capitalism?

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Candido Gonzalez · March 25, 2025

Friend of the show Joe Weisenthal had the best response to this book. https://x.com/thestalwart/status/1904211350529671632?s=46&t=QI8sgpLhopGBIcovoWIiTQ

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Son of El Topo · March 25, 2025

I’m A-busting for abundance!

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Eben Lowenstein · March 25, 2025

Housing is a universal policy!!! Longtime enjoyed of chapo and TrueAnon but these people are shockingly NIMBYs?

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I was saying boo-lania · March 25, 2025

Let's do something about the millions of vacant bank and hedgefund owned homes before rushing to build more housing for Blackrock to buy up

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Jason Costa · March 25, 2025

Love to hear an Eagles fan flex on the podcast multiple times #GoBirds

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K H · March 25, 2025

Hopefully this reaches future listeners. I listened twice to the first 28 minutes to see if I missed something. No. There was nothing there. It's an appeal to protecting norms for shareholders. Skip to 28 minutes.

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Hocho · March 25, 2025

Are you ok because I listened to it once and I'm struggling...

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ploob · March 25, 2025

Deep geothermal wells to the south 👍

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Username NinetyNine · March 25, 2025

There are plenty of YIMBY proposals for public housing

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K H · March 25, 2025

Sorry why do we care about this? I'm grateful that not only did Brandon lose, but I hope he will live to see his own state be reduced a husk as shriveled and worthless as him. The law has clearly failed us in every way it mattered. Do the UN next.

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Patrick Allen · March 25, 2025

It’s giving Yarvin.

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buttface · March 25, 2025

absolutely could not care less about delaware losing its precious corporate banana republic status

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misterinterrupt · March 25, 2025

I think the headline is: klein tries sell an orson scott card future to wannabe oligarchs who feel left-out

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Damen Irving · March 25, 2025

I’m going crazy over Ezra, given a blank check to imagine whatever future he wants, deciding to go with ozempic factories in low earth orbit.

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Damen Irving · March 25, 2025

Just imagining coastal libs nodding sagely to this dogshit but then telling their lefty niece who wants free school lunches in their state and being like “oh you just don’t understand how complicated and unrealistic that is.”

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The wazzzzaaapp bud light dude · March 25, 2025

The libs have been trying to replicate Obama for years. Nice to see they’ve given up and settled on replicating Clinton.

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Kinetics Video · March 27, 2025

2020 Primary was basically House of Cosbys

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The Fine Art Revolution · March 25, 2025

after listening, I could not tell you, with a gun to my head, what the first part is about

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K H · March 25, 2025

It seems like it as an appeal to normalcy in corporate governance via chancery court. Why this audience would remotely care, idk.

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Richard Fitzgerald · March 25, 2025

Love chapo and the critique of abundance bs but the talk about Bernie’s rally really showed the limits of these puppies understanding.

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Clark · March 25, 2025

Would you mind expanding on that? I'm not sure I fully understand what you mean

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Downs the Candy Hunter · March 25, 2025

Movie mindset is the only reason I'm still subscribed to the podcast can we please get some more of that

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Skwilly · March 26, 2025

Please enjoy all slop equally

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Leif · March 25, 2025

Shareholders, CEO's, they're all capitalists and it's Delaware

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G. Sandwich · March 25, 2025

next-generation Wacky Scientist here. With this NIH funding promised by the abundance movement, I will make the Brandon 2.0: an amalgamation of Brandon 1.0’s electrochemically stimulated flesh (akin to the Master of the Super Mutants in Fallout) that’s primary function is to say “Listen here, fat” to the AI women Huntertron2000 brings back from the solar farms. It’ll be great

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Tea for the Tillerman · March 25, 2025

Obesity rates aren’t talked about enough, how’s America going to colonize space let alone reshore manufacturing to the Midwest with a 50% look fats rate

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B R · March 25, 2025

Bro haven't you seen Wall-E? You have no vision

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Brian Johnson · March 25, 2025

The idea that in the future land owned by big corporate meat interests would be allowed to "rewild" is exactly what has always been wrong with this whole political project. In the future giant business interests abandoning land of their own volition instead of finding some even more sinister and filthy practice than even an abattoir is inconsistent with what we know about... Everything. And even the person writing this drivel knows it, it's the same cynical hucksters selling the same shit as always, ethical technocracy. When the actual pitch isn't aspirational you can guess how awesome the implementation will be.

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Kompy · March 25, 2025

Ezra Klein going on Doomscroll to whine about how Kamala lost because twitter had too many pronouns in 2020 was a truly astounding "scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds" moment

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Robert Aitken · April 2, 2025

that show is such garbage

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Vivi · March 25, 2025

"Abundacrats" is such a good term lmao

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Jawn Feddermang · March 25, 2025

Is she related to Robert Anton-Wilson?

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Chris T · March 25, 2025

Speaking of Sci-fi, would anyone here recommend Cyberpunk 2077? Need a new game…

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tursi · March 25, 2025

oh dude fs. honestly its amazing. so is RDR2. two of the best single player games ive played. the story in RDR2 is like reading a good book

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Davis G · March 25, 2025

Abundance is giving Adam Neumann a blank check and letting him cook 💪

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drizzly_november · March 25, 2025

A DoorDashed, lab-grown chicken in every pot; a Tesla in every garage.

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K H · March 25, 2025

Lab grown fleshlights incoming. Finally the male loneliness epidemic is solved with a lower carbon footprint than free range girlfriends.

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JBS · March 25, 2025

My little brother basically thinks Elon Musk inverted Mars, the planet.

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Reece Coren · March 25, 2025

Madinah with the Jalen Hurts reference. I could not possibly love her more 💚

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I was saying boo-lania · March 25, 2025

MF speaks in Instagram motivational quotes lol

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Chris T · March 25, 2025

God I hate Ezra Klein and his deviated septum

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I was saying boo-lania · March 25, 2025

Don't you fucking dare besmirch deviated septums!

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Erik Amundsen · March 25, 2025

I'm manifesting some abundance right now

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Kinetics Video · March 27, 2025

Happy for ya bro

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Savannakhet · March 25, 2025

The Abundance shtick is a sort of lib version of Aaron Bastani's Luxury Space Communism thing from a few years back. I'm probably the only one who remembers that book. Even the author has quietly forgotten about it I imagine.

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Patrick Jones-O'Brien · March 27, 2025

He talks about it pretty often

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Richard Cochnar · March 25, 2025

Tried listening to the Ezra Klein interview with Joshua Citarella but I had to stop after like 20 minutes of Ezra not saying anything.

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Jes · March 25, 2025

As a Delawarian, I agree it's ass. That's why most of us graduated high school and immediately moved to Philly

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Caesaro · March 25, 2025

Oh yay the anti-abortion bozo is on

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Stolio Brapps · March 25, 2025

Matt Bruenig is pro choice

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Marc Catapano -Flowers in the Concrete Tours/Geekedelia Media · March 25, 2025

It’s time for Matt B’s materialist/literalist super powers to be fully unleashed

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Damen Irving · March 25, 2025

The accelerando in the mars trilogy but accelerando is the name of a wework clone

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Mark · March 25, 2025

It’s kind of funny to me how these abundance neolibs are using the Elon huxter strategy of promising a utopian future in order to gain peoples trust/money/Power

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king_von_diesel · March 25, 2025

Jesus fuck. I don't believe in book burning, but I might make an exception for science fiction

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Robert Aitken · April 2, 2025

nah it’s the hobbit shit we should have done away with

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Damen Irving · March 25, 2025

“We’re liberals. But not old liberals. We’re new liberals, if you will. And, boy, do we have a vision of the future for you.”

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Kinetics Video · March 27, 2025

This vision may sound almost identical to 1970s Chile, but don't let that fool you

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THEKILLERWHALE · March 25, 2025

All of you idiots saying that Delaware is beige corporate post office box with no culture are conveniently forgetting that George Thorogood and THE DELWARE DESTROYERS are diamond state natives and kicked more ass than any of you weak dicked leftists could ever hope to.

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Tim O' · March 25, 2025

The boomer rocker so prolific and successful that his top 5 songs include 2 different mixes of Bad to the Bone, got it 👍

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I was saying boo-lania · March 25, 2025

The House of Abundance from POSE is the way forward! Seriously though Elektra Abundance would make a helluva president

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Raymonz · March 25, 2025

Delaware talk can’t possibly compete with abundance talk

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Brandomonium · March 25, 2025

Check it out, y’all, they wrote Silent Spring for utopian tech libertarians

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Sam · March 25, 2025

If you were born in 1900, you came into a world where flight was impossible and electricity was new to turning 70 having seen men walk on the moon via a signal to your home TV. Today, meanwhile, we’re just going to keep hearing “we made the computer smaller again!” once a year til we’re dead

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I was saying boo-lania · March 25, 2025

Yeah but our deaths will come when AI software assigns an autonomous drone to kill us so its all good!

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Rob · March 25, 2025

To be fair, animals are basically slaves with no right to life or sexual autonomy. If "cellular meat" gets the job done so be it.

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Dee Rubes · March 26, 2025

I agree, but as someone who has followed the cellular meat development since its inception, it’s all bullshit. It is Theranos. Nobody can make it work without huge inputs (including live animals) and thus huge costs. I do not think there is a technological solution to the environmental/climate/moral horror that is Fordist farming.

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Andrew Mueller · March 25, 2025

Techno Utopianism is a creative way of saying to maintain the status quo. It half heartedly acknowledges the problems we're facing, but then hand waves them away by saying that unknown future advancements will solve them. It's not doing the hard work of finding solutions to current existential problems and fantasizing about a solarpunk future where none of those problems exist anymore.

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Dee Rubes · March 26, 2025

I do think there is a lot of value to imagining the future we want. We need to give people something to get excited and motivated to fight for. But in this case the imagination is imprisoned inside liberal ideology.

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raph4603 · March 25, 2025

you're not going to make me care about Delaware

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misterinterrupt · March 25, 2025

you had better watch it!

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Ant koz · March 25, 2025

I’ve been saying for years the entire middle of the country is wasting all their land growing crops. Finally someone with the brains to realize it would be cheaper and more efficient for agriculture to take place vertically in giant sky scraping towers.

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Kinetics Video · March 27, 2025

Look pal, this retail office space isn't going to recoup itself

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I was saying boo-lania · March 25, 2025

Won't somebody PLEASE THINK OF THE SHAREHOLDERS!!!!

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w · March 25, 2025

Delaware is so weird 😭😭😭 - newish DE resident

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Eon Gattignolo · March 25, 2025

licks ice cream cone

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Keenan Fitzgerald · March 25, 2025

“Overeat our cellular meat” sounds like an awesome protest chant

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Jake Creighton · March 25, 2025

“Abundance politics” is just the neoliberal agenda in an elevator pitch. I’m not sure how this is an innovation really. Leaning hard into free market capitalism and using the state as a guarantor of private interests.

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FeloniousUnc · March 25, 2025

You sound like a woke activist judge

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J C · March 25, 2025

The Delaware rep stuff ends at 28:00

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K H · March 25, 2025

Where was your comment when I needed it almost 30 minutes ago.

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Jabroni Ludd · March 25, 2025

Fuck Delaware. Pretends to be the first state. Doesnt even have the best Wilmington. Were open for business, no not like that!’ I hope your states budget gets fucked and your state gets absorbed into md and va. The world has real problems and we gotta hear about FUCKING DELAWARE

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Tim Mullen · March 25, 2025

Abundance??? How can anyone be against abundance!?!? It’s a good word!

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wonderfell · March 25, 2025

laughing at the idea that this Democratic lawmaker is a “leftist.” If Democrats are leftists now I fucking give up

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FeloniousUnc · March 25, 2025

Yeah I kinda cringed at that too

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Joseph Mabrey · March 25, 2025

What even is money btw like what is it

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MRSAful Fate · March 25, 2025

No one knows

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Brent · March 25, 2025

Hey look at that beautiful future! Let’s head there on this dead end road into a toxic waste pit!

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Joseph Mabrey · March 25, 2025

This chick kinda sucks

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Steve D · March 25, 2025

Go birds 🦅

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Clammy_Damp · March 25, 2025

This is Sydney Handjerker from Handjerker, Cohen, and Bromberg

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Methew · March 25, 2025

Someone post madeleine albrights address

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Methew · March 25, 2025

Hey guys will one of yall find out where madeleine albright lives and torture her to death on livestream please? You will be remembered as a hero of mankind for all of history

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Methew · March 25, 2025

It would be really good for the world, fuck donating to some cause, go create an everlasting historical event of pure justice that evokes pure elite terror

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Tim O' · March 25, 2025

You guys wanted to talk to an expert on Delaware politics and you didn't get Joe Biden? Smh

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Vivi · March 25, 2025

I hear he has a lot of free time these days!

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Dzmien Nzimad · March 25, 2025

We need to bring back mad scientists.

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Ana · March 25, 2025

Bernie Sanders is "turning out tens of thousands of people" to be an apologist for the political party that is actively assisting Trump in forcing through his deeply fascistic agenda. Sanders rallies with Steven Horsford in Vegas. Steven voted for both the Laken Riley Act and the NDAA banning transition care from being covered by Tricare. Sanders doesn't even pretend to have a progressive agenda anymore. He just mumbles something about "the oligarchs" while telling us we need to back our shitbag Dem senator who voted with Schumer to gut Medicaid. He's "Vote Blue No Matter Who" Sanders, and let's be real: he was always a fraud.

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I was saying boo-lania · March 25, 2025

Agreed, let's go back to having nobody ever mention Medicare4All ever

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b-rar · March 25, 2025

"Abundance Agenda" is the program you introduce when the famine has already started

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Lukas Kuligowski · March 25, 2025

You're laughing? Abundance contains within it a bigness and you're laughing?

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Don Friðrik Ólafsson · March 25, 2025

BIGLY

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Liz · March 25, 2025

ngl I had to google to find out what "moribund" meant, I figured it had something to do with death or dying (bc of the root word) but I wasn't familiar with the term-- and here I thought I had a decent vocab 💀 In case you were wondering: "moribund" means "in the state of dying or approaching death"

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Christopher · March 25, 2025

The Abundance Youth

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Ernest Ambrus · March 25, 2025

“I don’t want these companies to leave Delaware” Fuck this rep.

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Ana · March 25, 2025

Trump's back in office, so after four years of posturing as principled leftists the guys are back to being open libs until we get another Republican-in-all-but-name like Biden back in the White House. Anything to prevent a serious leftist challenge to the Dems from arising. Can't wait for the Schumer + Fetterman ticket in 2028! I mean, *I'll* almost certainly be long dead by then, but the living will envy me!

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Tvvvv · March 25, 2025

Put Ezra Klein in low earth orbit.

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delle_chiaie · March 25, 2025

it's astounding to see the call for more building and less regulation, in the absence of any government planning framed as novel. the neoliberal approach to planning is already the norm, and the result has been superfluous infrastructure no one asked for that conveniently absorbs excess capital and stabilises the status quo for the private sector. I'm in favour of rolling back zoning and parking regulations but the peddling of a private sector that already has a monopoly on the future of the built environment as a solution is either disingenuous or absolutely fucking deluded

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Joseph Mabrey · March 25, 2025

Yeah for sure

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Reed · March 25, 2025

Funky cold Medina

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justdave · March 25, 2025

Don't play around with that stuff!

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Tvvvv · March 25, 2025

Madinah really got the democrat party note on using more sports metaphors in conversation.

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Trebor · March 25, 2025

Derek Thompson is an 8th grader holy shit. “Abundance contains within it a bigness”

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LowEndLem · March 25, 2025

Try finger but hole

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Erik Amundsen · March 25, 2025

Dog!

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ElverG · March 25, 2025

Cannot wait to get a low orbit taper fade 🙂‍↔️

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Moises Asbez · March 25, 2025

Hey, somebody should tell Ezra Klein that Ray Bradbury wants his third abortion back.

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Andrew Cross · March 25, 2025

Matt Goonig

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Dick Must Bust · March 25, 2025

Ian Fidance should be the Delaware correspondent

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Methew · March 25, 2025

I just thought of this but if Hamas actually mass raped on Oct 7th, Alan Dershowitz would be personally defending them at the ICJ

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Methew · March 25, 2025

No way it happened fam

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MCL · March 25, 2025

Jugs will hoot

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Doom Hermit · March 25, 2025

Eighth

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Alex Hennessey · March 25, 2025

Felix is allowed one "jug hooters" per episode.

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Wawaweewa · March 25, 2025

A boonk gang agenda

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Doug K · March 25, 2025

I haven't seen enough Mad Max Furiosa references when talking about "abundance" and it pisses me off

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Erik Amundsen · March 25, 2025

Do not become addicted to abundance.

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Warbs · March 25, 2025

Very excited to hear Bruenig on here.

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Ant koz · March 25, 2025

Just saw this commercial for a new series featuring Tom hardy looking… fucking insane, plus Pierce broz, from the “underworld of guy Ritchie” I think it may be a paramount series? It’s like that advertisement spoke to me, and it said “the new chapo is out” …. **edit:confirmed it’s on paramount+… gonna be SICK

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Declan Kennedy · March 25, 2025

fersht

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justdave · March 25, 2025

wurst