Movie Mindset Oscars Preview ‘25
Will & Hesse are back to look at the Oscars’ Best Pictures of 2024. They give their takes on the high- and low-lights, offer their predictions of who will take home Oscar gold, and give a special preview of what’s coming up in Movie Mindset Season 3.
For more Oscars fun: Come see Will & Hesse host an Oscars watch as part of a party for Zohran for Mayor this Sunday, March 2nd @ Nightclub 101: https://secure.actblue.com/donate/partyforzohran
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Hesse saying she liked Emilia Perez ,and Will quickly being like, "State your case 🫵🤨🎤" was very funny
Geez patreon keeps replaying this one where I left off during the ranting over The Substance and its such a barrage of bad takes on that film I don't trust what they have to say about the other movies in this episode. Like I know the team is smarter than this, are they just trying to be contrarian here??
Unnns
please review the whale
Lol whiffed on every Oscars prediction
Challengers asks the brave question, what if country club members had emotions.
Nickle Boys ignored again. Best movie of the lot.
So here for the Challengers slander, that movie SUCKED
suggestion for a future season: "White Heat" (1949) with James Cagney. I can see W&H rocking that one
Can we get a todd solondz ep please
I don’t think you guys really understood that scene in Mulholland drive… somehow I don’t think the point is that she is a great actress…
I disagree. She gives an undeniably great performance and it does nothing to convince the industry guys to give her the part, which is important to her character arc. (IMO anyway, there's probably no wrong reading of that movie)
I NEED A LONGLEGS DEEP DIVE WITH MATT
100% with them on The Brutalist. There was a lot to love about the movie but the rape scene was such a bizarre turn to make a point I thought the movie was already making quite well. Brody didn’t deserve the Oscar since his preformance was AI assisted. I loved Challengers just as a thrilling in theater experience but agree it was semi-carried by the soundtrack and cinematography. Watched it at home later and it was fine and fun but nothing amazing. Conclave, Anora, and I’m Still Here were the best movies of the year, but none of them scratched Zone of Interest. Dune 2 was sick and proved that it’s possible to make sci-fi that isn’t slop, but Zendaya and Chalamet’s chemistry (or lack of it) was the worst part of the movie.
Don't entertain Will's old man haterism Tess.
I saw one movie the entire year. Our culture is buttrash.
How can you hate The Substance (2024), geez. I love you guys but when you're wrong you're like, *REALLY* wrong, oof
Disagreed with most of Will’s takes on this one (especially about Challengers) but it’ll always be cathartic to hear someone hate on Wicked. Awful movie. I’m Still Here was the best film of 2024 imo. Perhaps not quite on par with Zone of Interest, but that’s a very high bar, and it came close.
Better Man sweep incoming
God, I hate how badly they misunderstand these movies. The ending of The Brutalist is deliberately ironic and anti-Zionist, and I thought that was abundantly clear. The Substance is deliberately on-the-nose, but they thought it was "trying to be smart"? I really do think they *try* to dislike some movies to be cool.
It did come off that way, I rarely turn chapo off for a bad take but that did it for me.
Will, please let up on the interruptions this season. Hesse needs you to control your enthusiasm.
Love you, Will, but as a fellow ADHD-bag, I was sympathetically embarrassed. Also, your takes on Wicked were trash.
They were very wrong!
Complaining about how movies aren’t good anymore and not seeing Nickel Boys is a big L
38:00 Did Will call her Tesla?
It’s that patented mennaker dry mouth
Why don’t people get that Challengers is all about edging
good indulgences joke will
i feel like Timothée Chalamet and Adam Driver are fighting for the same spot and Timmy C just landed a few decisive blows over '23 and '24
Love how mad Will got at the lack of gay sex in Challengers
A Different Man and No Other Land were the only good movies released in 2024
Wicked was fun, Dune 2 was borrrrrringggggg
Hessa slandering the movie Ray by accusing it of copying Walk the Line, a movie which came out a year later.
I have literally never heard one person say one single good thing about 'Emilia Perez.' I've never seen a movie this actively hated get this close to an Oscar. Lots of middling, "that one?" movies have won, but I can't think of any like this coming close.
It’s the best movie all year. Maybe all time. The most insane thing I’ve ever watched.
Longlegs sucked dick and I'm glad to know others think so as well. Wicked was fun
Matt Christman was right when he said “movies, folks! They had a good run didn’t they”!
Shitlib vibes when Will dismissed Longlegs.
No way. That movie was a mug of diarrhea.
Will not liking other performances in the brutalist is crazy to me. Definitely brutal head and I think they didn’t want to enjoy it. Hit cliche beats? Heroine in Pennsylvania is cliche? Come on. Also I didn’t think the substance was crazy revolutionary but like man they really hate on it. I don’t think the substance is trying to be smarter than it is, people are doing that for it. Hesse and Will spent an hour praising Shivers and analyzing it which I think they had to jump through hoops to do but I feel like they don’t extend the same courtesy to most modern movies :/
Nah The Substance sucks
Has there ever been a good biopic?
Birdman of Alcatraz
Sorry Will, but your opinion of Wicked is very ‘seen too many films to enjoy a good movie.’ The Hollywood musical is so back
I’m just a girl who cain’t say no!
Only listening AFTER the Oscars to see how wrong the predictions were. So happy Mikey won! Also, let's hear it for another Palme D'Or-Best Picture synchronization
The best The Substance taken came from NorthernLion: it is a movie about an old woman who is bad at taking her medicine.
Megalopolis is a movie about moviemaking where someone doesn’t get gay raped
Couple ideas for S3 episodes: Kubrick - Barry Lyndon and Dr Strangelove Hong Kong Action - Police Story and Hard Boiled Tarkovsky - Stalker and Solaris
extremely started watching movies 2 weeks ago opinion
Conclave is very much a “if Kamala had won” movie
But the funny part was the annoying lib lost his "campaign" for pope
Substance was good. Emilia was ok. Wicked was good actually
Will is boomer
Will is SO wrong about The Substance it’s offensive.
Couldn’t agree more. I’ve noticed that people who take movies really seriously tend to not like it. But the vast majority of normal people do.
Low key shocked to hear Will shit on a lot of movies that I thought were very good.
It's very boring and Moneyball to talk about movies this way, but we basically know a lot of the winners from all the guild awards and such. It will probably be Anora and Baker for Picture/Director. Best Actor is probably the most interesting race, though.
This makes me feel good about my movie opinions
I think the substance is maybe the worst movie I've ever seen, at least I've never seen a movie i hated as much as this one. Omg I fucking hate it.
Why?
Been dreaming for days like this
"Substance" had enough tits and ass to keep happy.
love chapo. cant listen to will's opinions on this shit. a complete unknown? are you kidding me?
Yeah his taste in movies feels so ironically charged.
Listened to this in the car on the way to see nickel boys and i'm still here back to back lmao
“Flow” was the best movie I saw this year. Yes it is for babies. I do not care, the animation and sound design are amazing
it’s for babies but third act is some intensely allegorical stuff. worthy of best animated and probably more
the two best pieces of media on Brutalism are Halo: Combat Evolved [Bungie; 2001] and Control [Remedy; 2019]
My family went to see the musical Wicked one time. When someone mentioned that they thought the songs were forgettable my Mom responded: Mom: "No, c'mon there were some memorable ones. What about that one, y'know *singing to the theme of Hollywood* 🎶Popular! You're gonna be so freakin' popular!🎶"
I wish we could get a longer discussion about Long Legs cause that movie pissed me off for so many different reasons
As a Russian hoping for the Anora sweep 🗿
congrats buddy, they did it
Challengers is just so good
Need the MM takes on I’m still here… part 2??
Anyone wanna clutch with timecodes for spoilers?
rosebud is the sled
The Substance has been the first time I’ve ever seen the way beauty viscerally penetrates the psyche of a lot of women. It’s more relevant than race, sex, class, age or any other articulation of identity. Beauty is simultaneously everything and, at the same time, a vane, superfluous preoccupation. It’s a living nightmare. And the viciousness of the movie is the first time I’ve seen any media match the way it overwhelms and undermines a life with it, or without it.
I felt the same way, in how well it captured the viciousness of that which is societal and internalized re: beauty, aging, etc. And it's not a self-serious movie: it's not trtinf to be subtle; it's an axe, presenting it to you as disgustingly and brutal as it can. More over, it's funny! The absurdity is equally the point. It's giving you this vile shit at every turn, most notably at the end when Elisasue vomits a perfectly shaped breast onto the stage. This is what the crowd wanted, right?? Why are they so disgusted??
Great ep — I’d love to hear Will’s thoughts on Megalopolis. I genuinely thought it was the funniest and most interesting movie of the year
please do inland empire ily!!!!
Point Blank and The Limey, please - singular, rhyming
Now I’m picturing a cartel version of Mrs. Doubtfire, where Robin Williams goes all the way.
Anora? more like abora!!!
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It’s a real shame this is what ppl will think of when looking back on audiards body of work. Read my lips, A prophet, Rust & bone, & Dheepan are all fantastic
Totally agree. A Prophet is pretty much a perfect movie in my humble opinion
Casino Movie Mindset episode?! LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
“Challengers not sexy” is an all-time insane take
I really do feel like the vast majority of people who saw The Substance completely misunderstood the film, because to say that it is about “beauty standards” and Hollywood is a surface level reading of a text that is actually primarily about internal processes (someone who has internalised misogyny so much that she can’t understand herself as anything more as an object and so psychically collapses when she can’t fulfill that role anymore). I don’t know how people can see this as a social commentary given how obviously dreamlike and dissociative and not rooted in reality the film is. The shows don’t have names that even attempt to sound real, there isn’t so much as a plant in Elizabeth’s house, just a picture of herself. She has no friends, family, no hobbies, no real backstory that exists outside of a TV screen. I can’t understand how people are missing the obvious dream logic the film is predicated on or how they are failing to incorporate that into their analysis of its point. This film is much more about how women can harm themselves, and tbh each other, than it is about the external structures and pressure that get them to that point, imo
Like people keep saying “the world doesn’t feel that deep”! Duh! Obviously! You think that she called the Late Night Talk Show just “The Show” and thought that this would seem like real life? It’s so obviously NOT meant to seem real!! You’re talking about a universe in which there is a secret company that produces gene-splicing goop that allows people to reconstitute. It’s very clearly not meant to be like, a real place, and the kind of disorientating effect of that is part of what makes it very obvious that this is much more about INTERNAL conflict
Will didn’t think Challengers was sexy because he’s not a gay man
The beauty of the substance lies in what is considered nightmarish to whom, with differences in opinion being largely rooted in a person’s relationship with feminine objectivity.
I knew a real-life guy named Laszlo Toth. He was Mexican and did Food Not Bombs
Why is it so difficult for yt people to pronounce non-mayonnaise names. Zendaya- as in “DAY and night.” Also- agreed that everything needs more Walken I loved The Substance! It is about so much more than getting old in Hollywood. That they failed to mention the date scene or the disembodied umbilical titty tells me that W & H just didn’t get it.
I didn’t think Conclave was mainstream slop. I think the opposite was kind of true. Conclave was the respectable, classy, “talking inside” prestige pic of the year. There’s always 1 a year to counteract the superhero or musicals that get nominated. They do it to maintain respectability.
I’m with Hesse on Emilia Perez. I get Will’s points but uh… whatever. It was totally fucking nuts, surprising, and fun. But it’s pretty suspect for the academy to reward that type of insanity and reject the Francis Ford Coppola insanity.
I thought EP was terrible but at least it was terrible in service of something different and non-formulaic.
Oh man if you're really looking for a Point Blank pairing, it should go with another Parker movie. Or ideally focus on Point Blank but talk a little bit about as many other Parker movies as you can manage to watch, though that might be overly heavy preparation.
I would love an Inland Empire ep.
Finally a good take on the Brutalist!
for the next 50 years anyone caught talking about "Dylan going electric" will be sent to the euthanasia room from Soylent Green and shown the scenes in Forrest Gump that take place in the 1960's on a loop until they die.
Mickey Mouse Millennial Movie-Mindsets Want Wealthy Waspy Pennsylvania Patron Pearce
Wait, is The Brutalist just a slightly different version of The Fountainhead?
First the Americans hit Canadians with tariffs, then add insult to injury with their manner of pronouncing Villeneuve.
The Substance ruled, the body horror was great and it doesn’t hate women even if its messages are heavy handed. And I liked the heaviness of Dennis Quaid slurping prawns! The goons were the worst, and least believable part of Anora. Real cheesiness. Thanks for the episode, can’t wait for the next movie mindset season!
Furiosa being snubbed is such bullshit. The oscars don't mean anything
Remember when Lenard Decarpio won for being cold?
Will and I often disagree on movies and this episode contains many examples (for example, I refuse to watch A Complete Unknown and think its existence is completely offensive to movies...I thought challengers was top 5 of the year) But we've never agreed on anything more than that The Substance was a garbage movie. And since I saw it, I've been telling people who asked, "I hated it, but don't take that as a non-recommendation. I'm a man alone. Everyone seems to love it." But I thought it was such a stupid movie about following instructions that the movie flashes on the screen every 5 damn seconds.
You didn't like them explaining how the Substance worked?
I loved The Substance. Favourite movie of the year. Maybe I have a dark sense of humour but I found the ending really funny.
The ending was hilarious and meant to be so. I noticed but who cares about her knees.
insanely wild opinions in this episode--That's okay, I'll still keep drinking that garbage.
I’ve sooooo been looking forward to this😻
Want to go to the Party for Zohran but then I remember I disagree with most of your opinions so that’s maybe not worth waiting outside for standby
Also if you think wicked or Jacques will win you simply have no clue what you’re talking about
It's terribly frustrating that with every word, both Will and Hesse are SCREAMING "I need to get away from this Hollywood slop" throughout the entire episode, and yet they haven't watched I'm Still Here.
A lot of “Tellin’ it like it is”.
I don’t care if Lynch hated it, his Dune still holds up. It’s weird and hilarious in the best way. Milking a cat? C’mon. Genius.
never understood why it would matter if lynch didn't like it. like have you ever met a creative person before, plenty of them hate their old stuff
Emilia Perez is better than the Substance. Queer is better than Challengers. Everyone who doesn’t see this is a tiny baby
erroneous uterus sounds like the name of the next musk offspring
I just jumped up in the air when I saw this ep!!!!!
listening to the review of the brutalist and feel like it’s a totally different movie to the one I watched. Amazing movie!
Damn the takes have fallen off a cliff this year
I appreciated the Substance’s commitment to showing the consequences of its characters’ actions in full detail. But that was about it. The world felt about an inch deep. And it reeked of Frenchness
yeah the thing that really stuck with me with the substance is the portrayal of impulsive self-destruction for short-term satisfaction
I also didn’t like The Substance. I called it “the movie that refuses to take yes for an answer.” Like, I liked it until I didn’t, and somehow there was still 40 minutes left. Someone should have taken some scissors to it. I was surprised at all the praise it got. I appreciated Will and Hesse’s input. I don’t understand people who didn’t like Longlegs. I think the only reason people didn’t like it was because it had the greatest marketing, and the movie was just pretty damn good. I had one minor criticism for the plot, but overall I loved that movie. It was just what the doctor ordered when I saw it. I’ve watched it two more times since then.
PLEASE don't do 90s trans shit. As a transsexual woman who lived through that era you guys aren't the ones to critique it. The culture at that time was basically "transsexuals are monsters" times a million and there are very few people who remember it in totality and aren't going to whitewash the sheer level of depravity Hollywood was drowning in those days. Keep that era buried with a stake in its heart where it belongs.
I’m so glad you called out Longlegs because I thought it was mid as hell
Tennis is the shark in jaws btw
I know that it’s obvious and kind of the point of the whole movie, but Margaret Qualley in the Substance is so hot it makes me upset.
Looking forward to MM3. Glad most of the films mentioned seem easy to stream.
Mobies!
Can someone point me to the MM episode where they discuss Denzel?
first episode, Tony Vision
If you haven't seen it, you really should watch the 1961 West Side Story. It's stellar. Genuinely a 'visual feast'
Guy Pearce in the brutalist is just Lois’s dad from family guy
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Excited for movie mindset season 3
Look, I'm not a religious man...but Jesus Christ Superstar fucking owns
No, y'all are crazy, The Substance was great.
30 minutes into the substance I asked my roommate if the movie ends with a pig in a Nixon mask and monsters on the world. I wasted 2 more hours to find out that it does.
My gf made me watch it and I did a really good job of not letting her see how much I hated it
Will, you missed the two best movies up for the award!
Haven't seen I'm Still Here but Nickel Boys would be my pick for best picture
"what a time it is to be alive....the oscars" I cackled in the grocery store
L takes about The Substance. Saying it’s inferior Cronenberg is goof town when it’s clearly more like Frank Henenlotter. It is also clear that Hesse saw it, liked it, then Will panned it, so she changed her opinion to agree with him for a united contrarian narrative.
nah it was a mess
This episode gets five bags of popcorn!
the goon saga in Anora took the momentum out of the movie for me and made the ending just not work at all. Mikey Madison was great. -spurned Challengers fan
How does the parts where’s she’s stripping take away from the end? My reading of the finale was her walls come down and she succumbs to her desire for real intimacy.
My only disagreement on you guys' take on the Brutalist is Hesse saying it's not a bad movie when it is, in fact, a very bad movie.
36 more hours of free time than me and still watched fewer of the noms than I did. God Hesse is a shithead whose half as funny as she thinks her vocal fry makes her. Last time bothering with this metastisis of a spinoff
i disagree with almost every one of their opinions in this ep but you need to chill out.
'The magic of movies is gone' ??? I think you guys might just be depressed. Was it the most amazing year for movies? No, not really. But the brutalist and the substance were both quite good and the 'it insists upon itself' level critiques you guys are throwing out for them is weak.
ya i thought this was a great year for movies :( hope will and hesse are doing a okay (im sure they are lol)
Periodt. (Approvingly)
I feel like The Brutalist gets an unfair reading here. Not a perfect film, but there is a pretty coherent message that the second act drills into, and is accentuated by the epilogue. Laszlo Toth spends his entire life creating art that is so brutal and unforgiving to the senses, as a means of disrupting the systems of assimilation that committed atrocities against him and his family. What christian church in the Northeast US would ever even think to use a cement box and minimal sources of sunlight for their place of congregation? The unfortunate aspect is that, like any piece of art that goes against the grain, it is eventually coopted to fulfill those same systems of assimilation, towards those with power and their personal ends. He goes on to build several christian-oriented spaces in the Northeast. Van Buren uses Toth to build his legacy, and feels personally entitled to him, in the same way Toth's niece uses his life's work to build her own narrative about Israel ("it's about the destination, not the journey"). Toth doesn't look particularly proud or happy when she says that bullshit, because his work was never about that dichotomy, and is pretty insulting to the very harrowing journey he takes throughout his life. How would she know anyways, she barely spoke to him in the time they spent together, and now she's using his legacy to score points. Anyways, sorry for the long screed, y'all are amazing, just wanted to give my two cents.
Haven’t seen the film but you’re a great writer!
I feel weird for having not seen Megolopolis yet given I used to read about it on Ain't It Cool decades ago
Which Zevon album is Will referencing? Wanted Dead or Alive? Want to give it another listen but I haven’t listened since I was younger
Warren Zevon 1976 i would guess
Hesse’s back, back again 😎
fiiiiiiiiiiiinally
nvm cant believe how off you were on the brutalist idk how you could interpret the ending as zionist
This is a sweet treat
Bad take on the substance. Lighten up poindexter!
Christopher Walken saying “You Must Be Muad-Dib” has been ringing in my head since I saw Dune 2
Longlegs was like "hey kids, you like Cure! You like Exorcist III! Well, how about a much dumber, much worse movie!"
Everyone loves it and I don’t understand!
Lmao at Will not seeing the best two movies on the list. Why even do the episode before seeing those
Hey, he doesn't have a lot of free time. He's a professional podcaster after all.
La Chimera mentioned ! Watch it now !
When you got movies like Tom Cruise in them, you can’t lose!
Movie mindset helped me see how bad and stupid my media consumption was.
Highly recommend La Chimera, my favorite of the year. Josh O’Connor is so fucking good.
Yura Borisov FTW
I'm holding off on the Brutalist because I just can't stand Adrien Brody's stupid face.
He gets raped
Finally, some good fucking food
Saying megalopolis sucked is like saying having teeth pulled was irritating Is there any other movie with a 120+ million budget that was as spectacularly nonsensical and narcissistic? Genuinely asking let me know if there are i wanna see them
Been waiting for this
'24 can't think of a worse crop
Emilia Perez sweep, you heard it here first
I’ll put up this Oscars nonsense just to get more of Will & Hesse
ALL THE STARS ARE HERE!!!
Can someone reply to this and let me know if they actually watched all the best picture nominees? Would save me the trouble of listening to the first 5 minutes before hearing Hesse say "I actually didn't watch ____ but it looks..."
Will at least was saying on Letterboxd that he was catching up with BP nominees that he hadn’t seen for the purposes of recording (including the godawful Emilia Perez)
🎶 penis to vagina 🎶
Si si si!
Oh hell yeah! I was getting worried there wouldn't be a Movie Mindset Oscars Preview this year