903 - Tuna Melt Moment feat. Alex Nichols (1/27/25)
Alex is back on the pod to review the first full week of 2rump news, but first, we wish friend of the show Catturd a speedy recovery from his impacted bowel. Then, we look at Trumps barrage of executive orders, cabinet staffing, and denial of security clearances to a number of former NatSec ghouls. We also discuss the Democrats’ new Tuna-based appeals for viral attention, and consider how history will judge Joe Biden.
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I just got a cramp from laughing so hard five minutes in
lol I used to "work for" ChaCha
I expected a Nibbler from Futurama or South Park poo record episode reference about Cat Turd smh
I agree with amber, send these Brits back !
Can anyone recommend a competent non douchey guest they can have on to educate them about Ai? The consumer applications of Ai may not be interesting to U yet but being flippant about it is just stupid. It is a reminder of how little most people think about what makes the world and everyday utilities around them “go,” it makes you sound like guys who don’t know how to install a light fixture complaining about LED bulbs being sus or useless. You’re smarter than this. The applications in terms of data analysis, surveillance, and rapid iteration of new technologies that aren’t on the public’s mind yet… are real. Have to be happy about the American profiteers being beaten out by the CCP … anyway the way that you interact with government from the DMV to filing taxes, to police & military to TSA — bioengineering, medical research. That’s what’s interesting. You’re already using Ai likely in your podcasting software.
Their take is correct. It’s not that people don’t see the scope of its intent to replace jobs and shift the moral weight of an administrative state onto an algorithm, it’s that it offers nothing valuable in the context of current political economy. Trash future had a great episode with the same guest. They are more savvy and have the same take. They are watching our future happen in real time in Britain .
OMG CHACHA MENTION!! I’m so old lmao
QAnon + chapo interpretation = infinity pool
Chuck Roast 🔥💩
Just finished this ep, Alex was on fire goddamn
Alex is always on fire. That’s why he’s not allowed in California
Did you all see the email that went out to most federal employees yesterday inviting them to resign? It's verbatim the email Musk sent to Twitter employees when he took over. So my friend's brother-in-law, who's a surgeon at the VA, got an email telling him he could resign immediately with 6mo pay and warning him that they would be prioritizing a return to in-person work going forward. Wondering if Trump is emulating Musk's approach to Twitter intentionally to reduce the federal govt to a husk of its former self.
I have a friend who works for feds that got it. Total bullshit rug pull. No way they do if they even can. It reads like someone in middle school wrote it, so elon might have actually wrote.
I will say this much about AI assisted search type tasks like they're discussing at the half hour mark, it's good for neiche questions. If you have a topic like exercise science where the stakes of being wrong are relatively low, but you still want to be in touch with the consensus... honestly it ain't bad. I've spent the past year and a half heavily customizing my routine to include some rehab and "prehab" type material thanks to some dumb training decisions. And as a jujitsu autist I've never done cardio in dedicated sessions in my goddamn life. So being able to ask the dumb little specific questions one mught have in a situation like that is kinda nice. ...I still look at it like it's gonna tell me the deadlift is actually a spine day classic or a rotational exercise, but if you go in not retarded I think you'll leave not crippled.
IMPORTANT!: It is usually safe to eat your own poop but not someone else's. In some cases however, it can be extremely beneficial to eat a person's poop who has a healthy intestinal biome.
Sir this is a Wendy's
My uncle is a liberal history prof and was a Joe Biden apologist. I had to tell him I really think Biden is F-tier, and deserves most of the blame for where we are now.
Interesting
If you had a tiny clone of Obama, would you torture him?
I would send him gift wrapped to Larry Sinclair
sorry, everytime alex is on the jokes just suck. It always devolves into the most shock jock disgusting garbage and you guys laugh track it like morons. Been supporting the channel for 8 years now and when I see alex on as a guest I am gonna just pass from now on.
^ paid russian disinfortzkaya peddler
Meek Miller
"they'll just think it's a tampon, and not say anything." Starting off strong, the smile factory delivering the good stuff today. Obama getting into the celebrity fuck circuit was always part of his plan, he's gonna be so annoying as a single guy.
The boys are just plain wrong that Trump is enjoying a honeymoon period, unless they’re thinking of an underwater honeymoon. The Reuters/Ipsos poll on Sunday showed that only 45% of Americans approve of Trump’s performance; his disapproval rate is 46%. (The poll had a margin of error of about 4 percentage points.) Trump’s highest-ever approval rating was 49% after he began his first term but fell to 34% after J6. For U.S. voters, this is not a love match, it’s a Boston marriage without a honeymoon.
Damn, he might lose the election.
Regarding the sense that people have given up, I don’t know how else to respond to this. All of this is dumb and crazy and cruel and weird. I wish everyone the best when it comes to dealing with the repercussions but I don’t have it in me to care about any of it anymore. We’re barreling towards a few decades of climate disasters and the country is being run by psychopaths who have been elected by morons and just plain old greedy assholes. It’s not going to get any better ever again. Go Birds.
Day 1 of trump 2 chapo said you could say retarded again. It is a resounding victory. Chapo for the first time in years talked aboht h1b. You look like a joke denying the cultural and poltiical impact. It's a narrow win by count but a big win by impact and meaning.
Henry Miller?
Miller Lite, the queer beer
Damn, they didn’t have to @ my boy tube socks like that at the end.
Something very unsatisfying about this casual assumption that some Democrat will just do Obama again basically. I think it's possible Obama was historically unique. Maybe the US would have to go do a Jakarta again to create another vessel so thoroughly empty as him.
Things can change so quickly. All the comfortable homeowners and college kids need is another person who fills that fantasy.
Looking forward to the grumpy lanyard guy Decembrist Movement
i would rather eat a json meal than that sickening sandwich tbh, it made me want to avoid seeing the thumbnail for this episode as much as possible because looking at it triggers my gag reflex. not saying it in a cutesy fake argumentative way, i would genuinely distance myself from a friend if they ate that, i would feel sick being around them
Tbf i do find tuna gross in the first place so that's part of the issue but man that is a repulsive looking sandwich
That sandwich is genuinely heinous. If I saw someone making that, especially in the work place, I would be upset with them.
Can't believe none of the Biden Historians mentioned the Luggage Thief
i suppose it could refer to the biblical eve but i can only assume evie refers to eva braun
If we're redoing 2016, I demand cold opens from James Adomian
Water Song Hot Tuna! 🥰
The new zone of Obamiston. Drone strike or fuck?
ALEX PERMANENT!!!!!!!!!!!
Alex has had some of the show’s best ever riffs and one liners
We also cant go back to 2016 because the pizza gate guy got killed by tje cops How many freaks and weirdos who made 2016 uniquely insane are dead now?
Henry Miller
Anus tuna melt.
Tf is Alex going on about, me when I see Jennifer Aniston
https://media.tenor.com/oDe2jj5GT6AAAAAM/wolf-aoogah.gif
Chapo is great anti-doomers of our time, like i was freaking out about all the trans bans currently happening, but to hear them remind me how stupid the right is and that they will fuck it all up is like, ya, true.
Well it’s easy for them to be anti-doomer when nothing that happens will ultimately affect them
Gustavo Petro was talking about Henry Miller
https://www.infobae.com/colombia/2024/12/15/no-he-encontrado-que-henry-miller-se-haya-postulado-para-alguna-embajada-humberto-de-la-calle-sobre-la-polemica-con-daniel-mendoza/
For the spry 42 year olds who are new to this podcast, this is what every episode used to be like
Goddamn- i started listening during the Biden years, which was just so depressing. This slaps
so Biden is like uh Ornstein from dark souls, but more like the old dragonslayer version from dark souls 2: scholar of the first sin where there’s a dragon right outside his room that he’s not doing anything about
Surprised you guys didn't mention the EO attacks on trans people, especially the one about passports that is causing a lot of problems for people right now or the one about trans inmates that will get a lot of trans women in prison killed and tortured...
That would require actually acknowledging the cruelty of the regime rather than just bashing Democrats (who are completely out of power but more fun as a target I guess than the ones actually hurting people)
Catturd blocked you, but just because you blocked him first
Talking shit about Dragon Ball Z WILL NOT BE TOLERATED. Respect your patrons
They are very accurate critiques that can only come from a place of love. Anyone who has watched Frieza and Goku power up for five straght episodes knows.
can't stand all these bacteria eating my food
Man I really hate the way this guy talks about women and women’s body’s it’s so gross and unfunny
Who
Any halfway house in this country is a microcosm OF this country. That was a perfect analogy and I can’t stop thinking about it
Trump saved menthols because there’s a Salem Lights ad in the 1993 vanity fair he keeps on the tank of his gilded john
let's be honest, if the democrats decided to go all in on hours of food-gore videos it would be better than the current social media strategy which seems to consist of the leadership posting "jesus, take the wheel" on twitter
The fiber causing constipation thing can be true in extreme situations, but there’s one idiopathic constipation case study all the carnivore diet perverts refer to. Overall it’s still the consensus that you very much need fiber from vegetables, it makes your colon release certain kinds of fatty acids that are good for it. Ppl who eat the widest variety of fiber have a healthy and diverse microbiome. I swear with all these carnivore guys, it’s all just residual hatred for their mommies that they don’t eat vegetables though lol.
I love Alex. Fucking Cha Cha. My homie worked for them in Indianapolis and answered pop culture questions. Forgot all about that shit.
I'm legitimately bummed about the state of affairs right now. Feels pretty hopeless.
If I start to feel down, I like to think about a half naked Haitian man hunting shih tzus n' such at the park with like a machete or bow and arrow or the like.
There's something really annoying to me about the current conventional wisdom on the left right now. While I agree that Biden/Kamala ran an awful campaign, that doesn't absolve the majority of voters for voting for Republicans. They didn't have to do that.
It just feels like y'all hate liberals more than you hate rightwingers
I missed Matt more than ever on this episode, bc that Biden fellating editorial needed a good "SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP"
Ha ha ha. When Alex said "Google" from my speaker it triggered the Google AI on my phone. Ha ha ha. Fucks sake.
aren't the democrats punishing their base right now? it's like oh you didn't like our guys, so we did you a huge favor by putting in the lady as a crazy last minute stunt, and then you still gave us shit on israel and didn't really show up even if it was kinda tight, so, get fucked, we're going to normalize this now, this is what you wanted?
That coverage you did of the "professional" historians' take on Biden's presidency was beyond cringe, it was literally vomit-worthy. Oh, "tokenism" is a concrete benefit for everyone, right? You guys were correct on them using the likes of the contemptibly stupid Linda Thomas-Greenfield as a black face in favor of genocide, of course. Who were the 2 morons who claimed Biden was "the most pro-labor President in modern times?" I guess in their little ivory towers they somehow failed to notice when Biden broke the Railroad Workers' strike on behalf of the owners, assuring that a quarter of the way thru the 21st century those workers don't have a single day's sick leave. In Duluth, MN where I currently live, the free local weekly is Shit-Lib Central. Last summer they ran a shockingly moronic cover story claiming that professional historians were rating Biden the 8th greatest, and Trump was the 2nd worse (can't recall whether Nixon or Bush Jr. was bottom of that barrel.) Well, I recently saw a ranking by the public, & Biden was in the bottom 2 of 6 modern presidencies. His policies were directly the same as Bush Jr., lots of foreign wars, even worse than Shrub, sending billions to crooks & Nazis in Ukraine. Overall, the public poll I saw (think it was one of the big ones, can't recall) ranked Bidet at 32% positive and 68% negative when he left. Not as bad as Shrub's 22% popularity when he left, but over 2/3rds, speaks for itself. Oh, lastly since I brought up Ukraine-- who were those "fantastic morons" (quoting Norm Finklestein) braying about "Putin's savage invasion" of Banderist Nazis killing Russian speakers, banning their language, etc. to glorify WW II war criminals like 98-year old Yaroslav Hunka, who got 2 standing ovations in the Canadian Parliament for being Waffen-SS, and slaughtering 1,000s of Polish Jews. (Oops, they didn't know what "fighting the Russians between 1942-45" meant.) Somebody needs to read Scott Horton's new book "Provoked", but Upton Sinclair was right, you can't get someone to believe something that affects their bottom-line paycheck.
Joe "Radically Left Wing" Brandon 🙄
Honestly, Will should have gone further on Hanson's bit. Would have been funnier than the dumb lib historians
My CIA handler told me that Gustavo Petro’s favorite TV show is Silicon Valley. Therefore, the Miller he was referring to was likely TJ Miller.
Im interested in what full stack devs have to say, but based on my limited Python experience, AI will not replace programmers because it is full of mistakes and you can’t keep secret any of the code you ask it to write for you.
Thank you! This is what I expected. I tried to get help in an intro to python course with it and it quickly started making errors that couldn’t be resolved without human intervention (a human who knows Python code). It sped up writing some functions and had clean documentation but it would be useless without a human coder.
He meant Miller High Life
He probably meant Dennis Miller. He’s huge in Colombia.
I don’t wanna get off on a rant here but you can’t have existential dread about the decay of America if you no longer have a soul and instead have a pile of conservative media money in its place.
Hawk Tuna Wait... Cattuah2
Just to be the “um akshually” guy for a second, DeepSeek is still based on OpenAI’s models. They didn’t create something from scratch. So you still need the chips and training to get to where DeepSeek got. Investors just have squirrel brains so they see “cheaper” and start panic selling. Also Google has become an unusable SEO-spammed shithole so LLMs that are tuned for search are honestly more useful these days.
Jennifer Anniston became a sex symbol when she said "I love Kung-Fu" on Office Space
In the fashion of Martin Luther, an invective-slinging poster is obsessed with shit thanks to his inability to take one
Chuck roast
The guys from the Departed stole the microprocessors for the Chinese AI
I don't know what they are, you don't know what they are, who gives a fuck
Now that Nick Mullen left TAFS and John Bolton lost his security detail, they should reunite and start a new podcast.
As a software dev, generative AI is very helpful. I use it daily to find tiny little syntax mistakes, or to get to the root cause of an error message. It can help debug code I have written or code I am customizing. It can also quickly spit out a great starting point for a code idea I am just getting started on.
The fact that the outro music is Hot Tuna fucking rules
Did anyone on that list even mention Gaza? It's astonishing how blind and delusional they are, as fucking historians, just to recite a load of democrat talking points rather than notice the earthquake beneath their feet. Not a good reflection on the academy.
They wouldn't have been asked for their input if they were openly anti-zionist. If they did mention Gaza, it probably didn't make it past the eeitors
That line about how some leftists imagine a roving gang of vegans scolding indigenous people was BARS.
Fuck this show has gotten really good again recently. I haven’t laughed this much at an ep in a while
Alex is one of the best guests ever
Miller high life….come on man. -joe biden
Oh, and back in the 1990s, we absolutely drooled over Aniston on the cover of a-Rolling Stone. Playboy had an article about the vixens of Friends (and it might have been titled that as well). And there was Office Space. We didn't start drooling over Angelina Jolie in earnest until I think about 1997, 1998? I know it was before Girl, Interrupted. It might have been that TV movie Gia where she's starkers.
All this talk about tuna has me remembering the Shocktober Felix did with Bryan Quimby and Chris James where they covered the Greaseman and the Greaseman’s tuna fish song.
Low-carb tortillas, man. You get your whole allotment of fiber in one of them. Slather them with peanut butter.
Re: "laying this at the feet of the left" in terms of blame for the Dem's loss... ... Isn't that the narrative that "the left" is pushing? That enabling Gaza & not offering a better status quo cost the Dems the election? Seems like there's *agreement* there
Yes but the left is saying that the party lost (us) by going rightwing, where as the party is trying to say they lost because they weren't percieved as rightwing enough to a fictional group of voters.
Fibercels seething over impactchads.
I cant find this clip but someone once asked Al Michaels “what about like, french fries?” and he almost blew a fuse trying not to go apeshit at the question
Noliwe Rooks’ piece in the politico article is worth reading despite the ridiculous headline, because in the second paragraph she mentions the alarmingly low literacy rates of American students which feels like a grim augur of our times that too few people are talking about.
Yeah. They stopped assigning full books in favor of chunking larger texts, whether out of time constraints or meeting student demand. Now most students don't have the capacity to follow a full novel from start to finish, the comprehension just isn't there.
Henry Miller! A bohemian in the 30s, before Kerouac et al. Not into drugs, big on alcohol, whores, astrology, Greece & Eastern mysticism.
That was my guess
The election wasn’t a Mondale style rout but it was a strong win for Trump. Dems lost the popular vote, lost every swing state, lost ground with every minority demo they thought they could count on, and underperformed Biden 2020 in practically every county in the country. It wasn’t a blowout but it wasn’t close either. The Dems’ acquiescence is just because it’s the easier thing to do and they don’t have any will or plan on how to do anything moderately difficult.
It was the 6th closest election ever, Trump won by less than 1.5%
Is this the 1st Led Zeppelin needle drop on Chapo?
If I were Obama, I’d go for Roz, from the “man’s show” “Frasier.”
Trump did not have a supreme court majority last time and has 270+ more federal judges he appointed last time. He’s going to be trying to go all out on all his worst ideas. The Democratic party is also rutterless and does not seem to have a party leadership voice. Pelosi was not great, but she does not even seem to have a real replacement. AOC has been the main one being vocal so far.
folks, they have no rutter
Sen MW of Virginia is an alcoholic. The tuna garbage makes sense
Lest we forget, a bacon sandwich defeated former Labour leader Ed Milliband
Obviously it’s Miller from Repo Man
Tuna melts are better on an English muffin in my opinion. Or at the very least wheat bread
marbled rye obvs
Then later he buys his lawyer coffee and the Scene is just “so if I get a mistrial that’s it, he gets off right? Since I did the crime my conscience will be clear? No, they’ll demand a retrial. What’s that? New jurors and a new trial, they need a verdict. So I need to get all 12 jurors to vote not guilty to accomplish my goals for the plot? That’s right…. It’s astounding how stupid he assumes the audience is, which to be fair, it is America. I’m sorry for these posts. This just felt like the appropriate place to get this off my chest. Please watch this film people it is remarkable
Felix begins speaking at 55 seconds
Be nice to Sean Wilentz he's a good historian 🥺
I use LLMs to help me read ridiculously long academic articles for me for grad school. 🤣
You mean you use LLMs to imitate the practice of reading articles
biden is the gil from the simpsons president
I actually do use AI for professional services. I used it for my tax questions last year. I’ve also used it to make maps of mining operations and I even rewrote a better constitution with it. Sure, capitalists abuse it for their means. But is using AI to create advertisements for services that can be replaced by the same AI sustainable? It’s lawyers, tax professionals, and white collar paper pushers that should be afraid of this technology IMO.
It’s google for idiots
Still waiting for someone to bring Gun-Kata to the ufc. I think itd be a game changer.
Did I miss it, or did I not hear a single historian even allude to the slaughter in Gaza?
State Media (& Miss Manners) feel that doing so is bad etiquette. "Silence is Golden" during the biggest genocide in 8 decades.
Obama fulfilling his ultimate desire of fucking the MOST generic White woman of the new millenium would be completing his arc for sure. Happy for him if true. Hopefully Michelle kills him and finally releases the pics of him getting his dick sucked by Brace in Peoria.
Bring back Capone Speakeasy!
Skip to about 5:30 to avoid a very long discussion around fecal impaction.
I refuse
I love cocaine Alex
He was in a flow state
My favourite black women are “Kelly Gene Pierre”, face of the holocaust, and SCOTUS justice “Ketanji Jackson Brown”.
Pedro stans Reggie Miller 👑
The conservative guy who wants the Obama clones to stay together is the voter base the Kamala campaign was going after
Outro song? Anyone know it?
It's Hot Tuna's "Water Song"
Henry Miller, probably.
Miller High Life
Guy who voted for Trump because he wanted Pete Hegseth to quit drinking
Does Alex laugh at anyone else’s jokes this time
Cat turd taking a shit would sound like a hammer coming down on an anvil
The problem all these historians and media figures have is that they came up during a time when they had total control over the discourse and thus could make it about whatever THEY wanted to talk about. And now that their control is gone, they don't know to talk about anything else.
I gotta get some of these vegetables
Don't bring your politics around my kids.
"The unforgettable tuna melt moment." "I forgot it."
Kraftwerk! 👍
Why was the insurrectionist tuna happy? . . . They were off the hook 😏
They had a high concentration of lead
Im tired of fighting, I'll wait for trump to come kill me
Slop World 2025 oink oink
Henry Miller
Beat me to it.
Alex is so fucking funny man
Doctors With Borders was the hardest I’ve lolled in a long while
Where can I get my bit wet lips on that big wet tuna sammy 🫦
This stuffs all great, but I just watched “juror #2” from last year a film that has a pretty good chance to be eastwoods last, and I feel pretty betrayed y’all didn’t cover it. It’s the worst movie I’ve ever seen. Had the most lifetime network dialogue ever like I’ve never seen a movie where the characters turn to the audience and explain the stakes or the legal process in ways that ham fisted does no justice… This film makes the avengers look like Kubrick. the message Eastwood tries to deliver too.. I could go on and on and on, but after Jewell and the analysis of Clint as the premiere reactionary film maker of our time, not covering this last one is deeply upsetting for me.
I didn't think it was THAT bad, and some people seem to like it. The concept was interesting, but you're correct that the movie's understanding of how the justice system actually works is pre-school level. It's like they read about the concept of juries and then pulled the rest from imagination alone.
The turd's outta the 🚬
Catturd has problematic fibre optics.
Just show blew out my nut on my work laptop, who else is about to listen?
It’s not preloaded. Didn’t you fucks watch sixth day with the govenrnator?
Monstrously foul opening 5 minutes
Very funny but monstrously foul
god aelix is so unfunny
wrong
Catturd going full Bolsonaro on the intestinal blockage
Why was the DEI tuna sad? . . . They got canned 😏
Here all week, folks
Alex slop, nice
Hell yeah extra sloppy
Wait, no praising of our future CCP overlords?
Sloppy
New tempo bro?
Oh nvm accidentally hit the speed up button
Second!
Baaash
