880 - End of the Line feat. Dave Weigel & Ettingermentum (10/28/24)
Chapo elections unit Dave Weigel and Josh “Ettingermentum” return for one last check-in on the state of the 2024 US Elections. We review Trump’s fascist clown show rally at Madison Square Garden over the weekend, and discuss its potential impacts on the final week of the race. We look at the closing arguments & strategies of both campaigns, the increasingly strained relationship between the electorate and the media, key senate races to watch, and give final chances for Trump & Harris.
LOS ANGELES: Come to our 11/4 Election Eve show with E1 & live house band featuring Dan Boeckner and Nick Diamonds: https://link.dice.fm/b1eb3de54f54
We are releasing another batch of SIGNED COPIES of Matt’s book, ¡No Pasarán!, tomorrow/today TUESDAY, OCTOBER 29th, at Noon ET/9am PT at chapotraphouse.store. Sales open ONLY until this Thursday, October 31st, get your copy!
Find Dave’s reporting at Semafor here: https://www.semafor.com/author/david-weigel
Find the Ettingermentum newsletter here: https://www.ettingermentum.news/
Comments (165)
Get a new hobby Josh you genuinely suck at this lol
what were the senate races with the "nightmare scenario" that dave mentioned? it happened right?
Can you have the lib Josh back on to talk about how he ate sh*t with his predictions?
Dave killin’ it with the ‘everyone in 10 mile radius of DC’
Felix mentions young thug at 54:38
Free King Slime
I want a new last name, my wife would rather I not take hers. What's the most chapo moniker I could choose?
Go with a classic like Trump...or Kennedy
I'm from Montreal. Please don't try to punish people by not voting. You are hurting the world. That guy is not well
lol, idk what Canada has to worry about over Trump. The only difference to other countries is whether China or Russia is the one true villain, every other foreign matter is 100% bipartisan. And political parties should absolutely be punished by their constituents refusing to vote for them. That’s literally the point of voting. If the democrats have no one worth voting for, they need to be left to rot. But all of that is mostly theoretical in the presidential election anyhow. There are only a few states that decide the election, b/c of the electoral college.
Dems should be punished for funding genocide. That punishment is the loss of the election.
You and check rest of us are the only people that will be punished
absolutely crushing a bowl of cookie crisp to this
Both parties care more about remaking the Middle East than they do about winning.
Miami Latinos having to choose between Trump and Bad Bunny lol
Will there ever be a digital sale of Matt's book? I live outside the U.S. and its doubly expensive to buy it physical.
my honest hope is that they tricked us and this book will go into multiple printings and be translated into multiple languages
I’m glad will makes poor predictions
Listening to this on Thursday the 30th and it's aged like milk. Nobody cares about Puerto Rico anymore. It's all about the garbage man
I live in Maine but I've seen more Sam Brown ads than any other kind of political ad purely because I watch a ton of Samsung TV's 24/7 Forged in Fire channel and his ads are always playing on there
My home state ♥️
Anybody got a song ID for the outro?
Found it. New American Century by Sputnik Weazel.
exercised my Early Voting franchise today. felt good! nobody asked what my Zapata Oil tee was about. wrote in Biden obviously
Joe or Hunter?
Settlers mentioned X2 😱 God I’m so glad there’s not a subreddit anymore. Discussion of that book always creates a massive struggle sesh.
Shitlibs are now on Twitter saying Trump faked his own assassination attempt. They're making their own QAnon...BlueAnon.
The aforementioned Smirking Chimp was wildly conspiratorial. I can see a more unified lib conspiracy emerging under a second trump admin.
Hello Chapo. I cannot afford to buy the book, but would like to contribute to Matt's medical bills; is there any way I can bung you a donation from the UK?
who the fuck is spencer i am behind on my lore
the only thing missing was a new BELTWAY theme
Can anyone explain the massive amount of divisiveness on Ettinger? I've seen FYM Michael clown on him pretty hard before also. Just wondering if I'm missing something.
Probably because he’s still doing the dirtbag thing and calls stuff gay and retarted all the time. He’s still at the level of non-pc that the boys were like five years ago. Also he used the book settlers as an insult like twice on this episode, so that’ll alienate a certain type of listener (No great loss there if you ask me).
However we vote, I think another four of trump might accelerate gains at the state and local level. Look at how Michigan repealed right to work ? Sometimes losing isn’t the worst thing. I think Jimmy Carter winning in ‘76 set the left back 50 years…
Cold consolation to a woman bleeding to death from an ectopic pregnancy
God i fucking hate dave mccormack
I head miniseries with Felix and Josh and my head went straight to Fromsoft.
The money being spent in Montana despite the futility of Genocide Jon is amazing. On Saturday alone I got 11 mailers, most about the senate election. Eleven. In one day.
I think if he loses the senate is lost. I’m not saying vote for Harris, but if she wins I would like another two years of decent-ish judges and maybe they take another shot at build back better. I know if I was in MT I’d hold my nose for him
Why did they both sound Australian when they said hello
Fire marshal Bill 💀
I think Will is wrong bc he doesn’t talk to black ppl and old ppl. Americans are more afraid of Trump than they were 4 years ago. That’s my take.
So much for THAT. 😭
What’s the outro song?
Sputnik Weazel -- "New American Century"
Stoked for Conservative Inc 🤠
I've been driving through michigan a lot lately, I've lost count of the number of Kamala billboards, they are everywhere. I'm also calling it now, the Christman will make a dramatic appearance at the live show
Yeah here’s hoping. I know he lives in LA, so they’re setting up for it.
TEXAS HAS FALLEN* Virgil has been officially replaced by ettingermentum
upgrade?
Continuing to mispronounce Kamala’s name, at *this* point, is the stuff of sub-Rogan hacks. Sorry if this offends
What?
Do the boys hear themselves mispronouncing Kamala over and over? She's not a professional wrestler.
It won’t matter in another week
I'll bet the guy who chased Dave around at the Bernie event was Jack Allison lol
Oh god
Ettingermentum is a Georgia peach? And yes I only see kamala/trump ads and have no idea what the hottest movies of fall are :/
I live in Philly. The ads are unbearable. Have been all year but now it's entire commercial breaks that are nothing but election ads about Kamala/Casey giving trans prisoners sex change operations or letting grown men play with girls. Every twenty minutes. It's rough
My kids live in Levittown and they said that they get door knocked like 4 times a day!
Again I'm plugging Elephant Graveyard on youtube. In particular Neil Degrasse Tyson Combos.
Sad to hear that Felix’s new miniseries has the polling gimp as co-host
You're white.
Donald Trump Jr is for sure a Tony Hinchcliff fan.
Belt buckle impresses him
“These are sub literate people trying to suck up to Rogan.” Felix would have done a better job at that rally than Tony Hinchcliff.
The Amish are faking it, I’ve seen them looking at DVDs at Walmart, it’s all a show for the English
I’ve watched Amish guys buy pallet loads of broken TVs to fix them up and resell them. I also used to email with a couple Amish vendors. The “Amish” label is for tax exempt status.
also, dave weigel blocked me on twitter a long time ago because i told him he was employed by the jeff bezos gazette :(
i am waiting until last minute to pre-order (it's my payday) Would anyone buying this really be upset if there's a paperback edition at some point? I would not, I want Matt to reach as many people as possible.
Have to think Elon musks enthusiasm ab the trump campaign will drive more democratic votes than any of the actual Kamala campaigning
I thought more signed copies of Matt’s book went on sale today. Are they already sold out?
Scott Pressler is Side, he ONLY phone banks and canvasses, no base building or social movements not into it.
Smirking Chimp dot com reference, now that's a deepcut
They need to make a Kamala Trump JibJab flash video
Got my signed book let’s gooo
the democratic party is running on a legit man hating platform but id rather hate dudes than speak ill of boriqua family.
Tim Walz is the only man on the ballot that doesn’t wear makeup
Not only has Special Agent [Joe Biden] disappeared, but this is one of [Shor]'s blue rose cases.
Got in on Matt’s book preorder just under the wire. Everyone should get one before Halloween.
Felix’s explanation of Kill Tony should be in the Library of Congress.
felix' awe shucks routine is a cover for a very incisive mind
Long shot request. Anyone got a full clip or info from the 2022 mid term where Lee Zeldin supporters were chanting "crime crime crime" at a Kathy Hochul event? Referenced in epi 679, 10:30. Thanks
It's pathetic that the Democrats have no platform whatsoever. "Hi. Vote for us. We're not the orange guy."
they have plenty of policies, and have espoused them - home care funding for elders, expansion of medicare with eye and ear, lower drug costs, implementation of antitrust laws, abortion stuff, stoping more trump tax cuts, working with unions, etc. they need to end the genocide, amongst other crucial things like corporate election funding, and take the media to task for not reporting more thoroughly on policy on both sides. i read a thing that said in the past month kamala’s homecare, vision and hearing funding proposal has only had 35 seconds of coverage. dems are responsible for their campaign but the media is definitely complicit going back to letting trump be a fake successful business man for a decade on the apprentice, and for “sane-washing” him as they’ve been doing. charlemagne was right when he said basically the same thing on cnn the other day.
There's exactly one standalone Felix project thus far, and it's one of the coolest sports docs I've ever seen. An Etti/Felix miniseries styled after blowback is like catnip for my soul
i think he collaborated with john bois, no shade just extra praise
And Darkness and Decay and Dead-eyed ex-SEC sorority girls in Apex, North Carolina held illimitable dominion over all.
I would literally give 50 bucks just to see a normal Edgar Schneider "We'll get money for you!" ad, instead of the nineteen political ones I have to sit through if I want to watch TV or stream.
Sherrod Brown dropped the ball by totally supporting Israel
He sent me the same press release on two different occasions where he brags about how much he authorized for Israel when I asked that he stop supporting genocide.
What's the closing song?
New American Century by Sputnik Weazel
What drives me insane is the Democratic Party getting what it wants and still whining. You wanted Clinton you got Clinton. You wanted to do Russiagate instead of any introspection on how you lost to a senile gameshow host you got Russiagate, you wanted Biden instead of Bernie you got it. STOP WHINGING YOU KEEP GETTING WHAT YOU WANT
The ( lack of) introspection thing is just it though. Democrats keep getting what they want, but through willful ignorance are unable to reckon with their unpopularity. The things that they want lead them to maybe, barely scraping by electoral victories over what should be the most electorally unviable opposition ever. So every time we get to watch democrats scratch their heads and yell at large swaths of the country “no you don’t get it!!!”
I live in Michigan and the election ads here are relentless. It’s been this way for three months. I mainly watch YouTube and I don’t think I’ve seen a single ad that isn’t a political ad. They’re also running false flag ads too. The republicans are running ads that act like they’re from Kamala where they talk about Kamala’s unwavering loyalty to Israel.
That's so good. The Kamala campaign can't even disown ads like that, since she really does support Israel
Many, many things make me feel insane these days, but I still am floored that so many ostensibly functional adults think that their one precious vote in a country of 300 million people is going to change the tide of history. It’s like believing in magic beans. Anyway the one tiny thing I do have control over is being able to go to my grave not having endorsed a genocide
Log off dude
You really think Trump will care about term limits when he gets elected? He will use the supreme Court to pull an FDR and try to go for 4 terms
Cmon man
As a vet I give my permission to ostracize the incredible melting Man from" Action League Now" on Kablam.
Republicans doing the dean scream
You can prove what a liberal’s goal is by how they argue. If they actually were worried for democracy and minorities they would be speaking in clear terms about specific issues. But so many of them just want to feel superior and insult potential voters. Which is fine because, when this strategy contributes to their candidate losing, they get to spend four years talking about how *they* were right and it is the fault of the people they insulted.
Are you ready for the avalanche of "Kamala was right about everything" merch?
Hinchcliffe joke won’t matter unfortunately
Don’t you kind of want to know what Puerto Rico did to him? I know I do.
Chud tears and lib tears are equally as sweet to me.
Chud tears are sweeter (diabetes)
How is Trump going to fix the prices? Price controls?
I wasn’t arguing, I was genuinely curious how they say they’re going to do it
So we’re all still writing in Biden, right? Right?!
We’re importing fake ballots for Biden.
Sherrod Brown is Ohio's son he will persevere
Lol oops
Just started the episode, I'm expecting a Lil Durk reference from Felix, let's see if I'm right.
There it is in the 54th minute
Yo what is this closing song? Google isn't helping me for shit
"The Ballad of Pee Pee Poo Poo"
I despise Kamala more than anyone and I also pray she wins by like 1 vote in each swing state and immediately falls on her face and has a nasty scar on her cheek.
She wins or loses they’re going to blame the left for her not winning by more or that she lost and they’ll pray for Palestine’s demise on purpose instead of being indifferent like most of them are now.
“loves hitler’s genitals,”
Clear endorsement of fascism—17:15
The people who freak out whenever Chapo talks about an election are so funny to me. Folks, the most famous episode of the show was the one that came out right after, and was entirely about, the 2016 election, and it ended with a sincere monologue from Virgil Texas about how important it is to stay motivated and fight fascism however you can. Noticing that an election is happening, noticing that its outcome will have meaning, these things don't make you a lib. Even voting for Harris doesn't necessarily make you a lib, although it strongly implies you are one. It's a political podcast that was about American elections basically from the start. What on Earth brought you here if that's not something you're interested in?
Got disappeared for nonce shit
You know how when you play a strategy game like Civilization or Crusader Kings and the first turns you're meticulous and micromanaging everything, but in the later stages you get real sloppy? Your empire is so big you can't lose and you're just so burned out you're shoving units around, auto-clicking turns and you don't really care what's going on in the far fringes of your lands. That's what the Democrats feel like right now. Sure, send Ritchie Torres to tell Muslim voters to eat shit. Campaign with Liz Cheney. Start every speech praising the stupid genocidal NPC country on the far side of the map. Run your 900-year old president until the summer and switch him out for the Hillary reskin last minute. You can't lose anymore but you stopped having fun.
Democrat: Total War
Chapos is it possible to buy the book internationally? Would love to support but am in NZ. Think I checked when first released and there was no int shipping.
I ordered from Australia with international shipping. Maybe check again now.
They are sending Richie Torres because they see him as president one day. I know that sounds insane but all I can say is yes, the democrats are that insanely dumb
Ritchie Torres a lobbyist in every driveway and a Zionist in every pot!
Tony Hinchcliffe is one of the most despicable people on earth. Look into it.
No thanks
Everyone move to canada! Make our politics less shitty!!! Please?
Shit, we was gonna ask the same of Canada! Mexico, can you send anyone? Oh, wait... 🤔 Eh, think we are all fucked.
I just want to grill, for pete's sake!
¡No Pasarán! Ordered
me when the pod cast which experienced a period of dramatic financial growth under a trump administration tells me that the election where trump is a candidate is a wash
😉
Yea you are so fucking cool dude. I know you all are black pilled but letting this fucking moron get elected is so unforgivable. Fuck you man. Seriously. Fuck you ans will and every other idiot who would rather be force fed chicken shit because they don't like chicken. Seriously kill yourself
What
I’m a white guy (shocking for a Chapo listener) and two of my very close friends in NYC are Asian-American, close to the point where the three of us are almost brothers. We talk about many things, been very dear friends for over ten years, but I’ve only really seen them angry with me during this election cycle when in April I said voting for (the then candidate) Joe Biden was bad based on what was (still is) going on in Gaza and if I could vote in the US (I’m a filthy Brit, but longtime resident of NYC) I would only vote down ballot for candidates that seem good but given the choice between Biden and Trump I’d rather just not vote. They got really angry saying that I’m a Trump enabler or at the very least ‘I am telling them they should accept racism in the name of the greater good’. I actually didn’t say they should do anything, just that I wouldn’t vote for the Dems considering Gaza. Now it’s Kamala and we’re all quiet on the topic, mostly because of exhaustion, but they recently asked me if I still had this stance and I said yeah, the genocide is still ongoing. They weren’t mad this time but not happy. If they lived in PA or some swing state I may be less sure but in NY voting for the Dems in the name of damage mitigation seems dumb, but then I’m a white guy and they are more vulnerable Asian guys so I don’t know what to think
Ramble concluded
Trump distanced him because he said pORto not peurto
😂
I can't remember the Dr. Jolly reference on the shirt in the store but love the design
Look up Dr Jolly West
Josh’s piece on why polls may be underestimating Democrats this year is a very, very good read, highly recommended. I am really excited to see if he ends up being right about that.
Just read it. Concur
Biden’s cabin in the woods
I'm in Canada, someone write in Santos for me
I like someone’s suggestion for Yusef Al Bidan
Oh, is there some kind of election next week? News to me
Personally, I know I’m swamped with work and I won’t be able to attend the election. But I hope it’s a banger for everyone else
Sweet sweet slop.
Straight from the teat
Felix begins speaking at 2 minutes and 1 second
I'm voting for Jill Stein
Who
weigel sucks
No
Blirst
Looking forward to changing my username
🍉
First, let’s hear another Virgil joke this ep
well you’ve got ettingerthingy