874 - The Nut feat. Kath Krueger (10/7/24)
It’s been one year since 10/7, so we discuss a bit of what’s changed - if anything - in perception and politics of the war in Palestine. We then look at the 2024 election, the effects of recent and impending natural disasters, and last week’s VP debate. We also discuss Kath’s recent piece in the Nation about the return of the #resistance, and Elon Musk’s funny little dance at Trump’s recent rally. Idk, we’re all starting to get that familiar icky feeling in the pits of our stomachs again about November, aren’t we, is it happening again?
Read Kath’s piece in The Nation: https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/resistance-kamala-harris-online/
Buy Matt’s Book: https://chapotraphouse.store/products/no-pasaran
Come to our 11/4 Election Eve show in LA with E1: https://link.dice.fm/b1eb3de54f54
Comments (160)
You wouldn’t comf him outta bed for eating crackers
As Albert Einstein said, “I don't know with which weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with genetically engineered doofy-ass wild tabbies"
Americans are too ignorant and uneducated to realize they have in part the Koch brothers to thank for the massive climate shift that's in progress. It's exactly the same phenomenon at play as mass shooting in the US. 'What could possibly be done to stop this?!?'.
Good old boys supporting Israeli killing is just the worst thing to listen to.
Robert Saleh wore a Lebanese flag on his last game as the Head coach of the Jets and then was fired the week of….I’m just saying.
I guess Asif Kapadia got cancelled for a retweet. Oh well.
I am fine with critiquing campaigns, but I just fundamentally don’t believe in not voting. Too many fought for this right for a reason. Politicians only care about the opinions of those who vote, and not of those who don’t vote. To make a difference you have to vote. Thats how ppl like Bernie Sanders was able to make an impact- bc he gained voters! And no matter how much I don’t like this war, I refuse to help the orange man win. He wouldn’t even want someone like me to have the right to vote and is willing to take it away. Gotta vote Harris 🤷♀️. Just my opinion.
Then go vote, the people who make a big deal about voting are the people who religiously vote. No one who doesn't vote is going to chastise you endlessly for voting. If you want to vote do it, but the brow beating for the people who choose not is not helpful. Also politicians do not care about people's opinions one way or the other. If they did the society would be completely different.
At this point, i hope Harris wins simply because Dems won('t be able to blame the continuance of the genocide on Trump (who am I kidding, they still will)
Ngl I don’t want money going to Israel but those hurricanes devastating the south bring a little smile to my face. Fuck them forever and I hope the people drown. Not a penny for Israel but not a penny for those hicks either
Asheville is prob the most liberal city in the south. And it was devastated.Show some compassion. I can’t stand MAGA-ts either but people who could give a shit about politics are hurting
You know
God I fucking hate david muir
Not accurate at all that the Dems have moved toward Trump
lmao thanks for the laugh
Did Felix just say Antifa-Da? Is that how it’s supposed to be pronounced?
Felix closing statement is a black pill delicacy.
I was born in a steelers onesie as a baby and I stg if Elon continues the steelers thing I'm going to target him with terrorism
Why oh why isn’t the Harris/Walz campaign radically retooling their campaign to seek the votes of Chapo hosts who repeatedly state they will never vote for them?!
Are you paying to listen to the opinions of people you don’t understand or respect? I don’t know how Patreon works, can you comment on free eps regardless of membership? Are you using Patreon like Reddit?
We are in 2016 again: 1) everyone is obsessed with a zoo animal 2) liberal white women are calling themselves shit like “childless cat lady” If the Guardians or Mets win the World Series you know it’s a Trump win
What was the 2016 zoo animal of the year?
Looking forward to Chappelle coming on the show
Musk and Trump should be saddled with each other’s images. They’ve both made huge decisions (running for president, buying Twitter) because they wanted to be more well-liked and talked about positively, and both their gambits failed. They’re widely loathed, and they might not be if they hadn’t done what they did. They might currently just be cultural figures who occasionally get mentioned on SNL but otherwise continue to do what they were doing with control over their reputations
👍
where the joker 2 ep
Kath's impression of Elon watching football lmao
I'm tired of people pretending that chappell roan's backlash was solely "oh she won't endorse kamala" and not the statement she made was shit. Called the democratic party "the left" then said "the left" has anti-trans policy, for example. The left is clearly being pushed out of the party and if she had been focusing on politics more than just how to milk it for clout. She's like 27 and gave that mush mouth bad statement. Also, before her bad statement, she went to the rolling stones and was like "wow I'm so brave for thinking about reading palestinian poetry in a bait and switch to Joe Biden. I didn't do it, I found out there would be retaliation and I'm not making sacrifies. But I did run here to tell you I sure did think of it." A thing that personally makes me furious. She didn't have to do the protest, but why is she telling people she thought of taking a stance but didn't in the rolling fucking stones. And her fans praised her like she did something then like they did when she gave her garbage statement.
She’s no Macklemore
Maybe Trump was using Elon as a decoy
lol Felix I saw the voters of tomorrow girl too and also hated her, thank u
Tim Kaine in the membraneeee Tim Kaine in the brain!
Tim Walz in the ballz Time Walz in the COCK
Workshopping the visual representation for Will's wedding after wedding gag: Kamala paired with: Eric Adams Hunter Biden Donald Trump
Ella Emhoff and Nick Fuentes, dubbed Femhoff by People Magazine.
I literally got banned for the /r/news subreddit for pushing back against actively genocidal views professed and suggesting these might be bots. As a Jew, I appealed my ban, and was muted from messaging the moderators... which is literally against the terms of service for reddit mods.
Pre install TikTok on every phone for all I care, but Reddit needs to be banned
I fully expect an enormous amount of hate coming for Arabs, Muslims, and anyone allying with Palestine on November 8th, no matter who wins.
I don't hear you guys talking about the working class at all. I hear you guys obsessing about Israel which makes me think all it is is another fucking divisive talking point. whats happening to the Palestinians is fucked but god damn it Why doesnt anybody give a shit about the conditions here for working class people. What a luxury. You are the definition of the youngish urban liberal elite
Working class =/= american white guy
I've never willingly watched a football game... been trying to recently, but only cuz my dad has Stage 4 cancer and likes the Sooners a whole lot.
I can't lie, these kind of episodes leave me feeling depressed. Is there nothing positive? Even a sliver of hope to cling to?
There’s so much to hope for, friend. Just not in the realm of electoral politics (for now). Look to the explosion of workplace unionizing. Look to ordinary people helping each other, both organized mutual aid groups and spontaneous emergency assistance. It’s not explicitly ideological, but it could be in the future.
you heard it here first folks, will thinks trumps 4y weren’t that bad.
This episode was more tankie than usual
My non-scientific reasoning for thinking Kamala might lose is the relatively low energy I've seen about her campaign here in technocratic neolib valhalla (Austin) I'm surrounded by people who wore pussy hats and proudly posted videos of themselves crying when Biden won and are now totally silent on the Harris campaign. Maybe they just gained some humility but I get the sense the Israel issue has destabilized the base in a not-insignificant way
People really don’t give a crap about overseas wars as long as we don’t have soldiers there. The price of gas has much more purchase on voters
Holy shit that Hamilton hurts bad 😭
sounds like someone isn't improving their mobility through eligibility...
Kamala is still the favorite and it'll be a toss-up. There is no evidence trump is gaining momentum, not even the most pessimistic leftists i see on Twitter are expecting a trump win.
Katherine is in the Chapo hall of fame 🏆
I don't think the Dems are trying to throw the election at all. I think they are very clearly communicating what a democratic victory would mean and what it will entail. And if they can't win on those terms they're perfectly happy to fundraise for four more years from the corporations and rich donors who will never desert them. We get no say in those terms, and if we aren't ready to accept them? Well, haha assholes - see how you like four more years of Trump. See you in 2028 lololol.
A lot of Evangelical Christians in parts of the south probably agree with Lindsey Graham about the importance of Israel. (albeit not for the same reasons).
Isrul
I was listening to Greg Stoker (Colonial Outcast podcast) and he said he’s been getting reports that Israeli troops in Lebanon are refusing orders already.
I haven’t heard anything about desertions. I agree it is tough to know what’s true given the gag laws on the books in Israel.
Kath Krueger, the happy nightmare.
So the NFL started a typical liberal program where players and coaches could wear a patch of the flag of their country of origin. The Jets coach, Robert Saleh, is Lebanese and wore a pretty predominant Lebanese flag patch on his sweatshirt Sunday. He was fired today. Now the team is disappointing but to get fired in October is a pretty extreme move. Thinking the owner, Woody Johnson, from Johnson and Johnson, who was Trump’s ambassador to the UK might have considered that when firing him. Maybe it’s too much of a stretch but possible….
Shit I saw they canned him, I thought it was an overreaction... I mean if the Giants are holding onto our offensive coordinator then the Jets have no right to fire anyone lol. This makes sense tho...
When they dropped that Hamilton shit I flashed back to Lin-Manuel Miranda freestyling at the White House with Obama 💀 Chris Wade is a terrorist!
You could tell he was angry this week.
Extremely vivid aurora borealis visible at low latitudes last night. Signs and wonders. Another portent of Doom.
Kathryn’s article is so good
CONTENT WARNING: DO NOT DRIVE WHILE LISTENING TO THIS EPISODE. There is a new Hamilton rap. High chance of seizure in traffic
If you're pregnant or nursing you're not reading this. Why am I writing something
Having lived through 4 years of Trump, with this very show as a coping mechanism during it, I don't believe that 4 years of Biden was roughly the same as 4 years of Trump. I don't like him either, but like, come on man. In line with everything else they've said this ep, though.
I despise most of the Democratic Party, but more Trump judicial appointments is not good for any left wing cause. Plus Tim Walz was basically endorsed by Jacobin magazine.
Get Chappel on the pod
Please trigger warning for Hamilton style music
"Bad Camping Trip" sounds like the name of Deliverance translated into Japanese then back into English
If you voted by mail and your vote was not counted, the ballot may have been rejected based on the signature. I had an injury that changed my scrawl and had that happen. But I didn't learn about it till later
I did not consent to hearing the Hamilton cast's Kamala song. You will be hearing from my lawyers, Mr Chapo
natural disasters? war in the holy land? unsure who the antichrist is? This isn't a free and fair election if we have to conduct it in the social conditions of... checks notes... Revelations I
New rule ease of bipartisan politics the winning presidential and vp candidate will have to divorce their priprior spouses and marry the cooresponding runner up candidates. 💒💍🔔🇺🇲
I’ve somehow managed to avoid hearing Tim waltz’s voice could sound like Louis Armstrong for all I know
Them Hamilton song clips took years off my life
Reading series? https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/06/tales-of-infanticide-have-stoked-hatred-of-jews-for-centuries-they-echo-still-today
I wonder if Felix unlocked the Israel tech tree so he could use the Merkava Mk4?
Prolly not, he’s a plane guy, and by his extensive knowledge of american fighter jets, id say he is an ameriboo, maybe some russian sprinkled in
Please oh please let us get another January 6th incident. Please, it was so funny, I have nothing left to hope for. Kamala, you must win for the funny to happen.
That’s funnier though
The most angering thing brought up this episode is Hamilton cast getting together. And then the ending. Ahhhhh! I want to punch something! Bravo Mr. Chapo!
Episodes like this make me yearn for Matt. His intellect is sorely missed in the chap:(
Always missed
Hamiltons success among liberals is entirely down to the fact that libmericans wanted to stop feeling bad about americas invasion of Iraq
I am producing my own musical celebrating Ho Chi Minh and the Vietcong. Lot of pyro-tech NIC.
I love democracy, where I have the choice between the Republican Party and Donald Trump
In all seriousness, Kamala doesn’t have to appeal to the left because a) there is no left in the United States and b) she never got primaried she doesn’t even have to pretend to put the mask on
HAHAHAHAHA CHRIS WADE NO LONGER ON THE FUCKING PODCAST FOR CORRECTING WILL!! THATS RIGHT, YOURE THE FUCKING EDITOR YOU SACK OF SHIT YOURE AS REPLACEABLE AS A PLASTIC FUCKING BAG FUCK YOU CHRIS WADE FUCK YOOOUUU. I HOPE WE NEVER HEAR HIS ANNOYING VOICE FOR THE REST OF OUR LIVES!!!!!!!!!
You should direct this passion into something more constructive lol
Anyone who identifies as a "Democratic voter" is very excited about the Dick Cheney endorsement because they were told how excited they are about the Dick Cheney endorsement.
They're like a cult but without any of the fun stuff
I appreciate someone with a platform pointing out the absurdity that there’s more pressure on Chappell Roan (an artist very few people even knew existed a year ago) to loudly endorse Kamala / negative reaction to her refusal to do so than there is on Kamala to stop a fucking genocide. Also I like the Katherine episodes.
Maybe we should like get Catherine to like maybe like stop saying and like every three seconds like before she like comes on like a podcast maybe just maybe like tighten that up like a little bit like you know like just a little bit
She's fucking Will. She can say and do as she pleases. Why do you think Matt had a stroke?
I will not sanction the Jerry Lewis disrespect. One of America’s greatest artists.
Wrt to the Chappell Roan not voting in Missouri thing, it's infuriating how nobody in the media or like anywhere acknowledges that "you have to vote to save democracy" applies to at most 7 1/2 states, and the rest of us are totally disenfranchised and free to do whatever we want
I wish I lived in a swing state so I could make democrats lose.
Oh shit, boys. Felix has started grinding in war thunder. May gaijin have mercy on our souls
The snail claims another victim
I was getting over the flu this week but you made me listen to that Hamilton rap and now I'm gonna be coughing up snot for another ten days so thanks a lot for that. It did make me realize an important truth which is that you can tell how much a rap song is gonna suck by how well finger snaps would fit in the background.
Elon confirmed Phil-Pitt Steagles fan
I think he would be an even more dedicated fan of somebody else in 1943, though
Damn, this was first time I knowingly heard a Post Malone song
Imo the reason israel initially said 1400 "people" (please ignore the ones with military ranks in front of their names) were killed was because they already wrote off the hostages as dead because they didnt plan on getting them back - then later drew it down to 1200 when the "bring them home" thing got enough steam.
I thought they vaporized a bunch of people they thought were Israelis then later decided they were Hamas. What is the lie and why are they lying is a hard and rarely productive game.
In-tea-fa-da
lol I was just about to comment the same thing. What another brilliant pronunciation to add to the collection
I got a text from Liz Cheney the other day asking me to donate to Harris/Waltz…..bleak
You should ask Liz Cheney out to dinner since you have her number now
Yayyyyy Kath is back! 🩷
The Lindsey Graham clip is something you say if you want to make people antisemitic. "I don't care about the Carolinas but Israel needs more weapons." How long till this special relationship they have with America turns Americans antisemitic?
Antisemitism is good for American leaders, military, and esp Israel.
I don't know how, but people in my family who canvass for Harris flat out do not know that she's anti-immigrant & if i show them what she said, they tell me she's just lying for votes. They still think they're fighting for kids in cages. The party is such a dumpster fire, its most loyal supporters are just plucking out their eyes for causing them to sin, biblical allusion style.
They literally walked past anti genocide protesters at the convention with their hands over their ears singing "lalalala." They are adult children. They are perpetually looking for a good adult to tell them they are special and things are ok.
The Hamilton song is the most Democrat thing ever. Cringe inducing, condescending, voting for the sake of voting, empty platitudes. Both parties are fighting for who can deserve to lose more.
As Matt said, quoting someone else, “time is a flat circle”
While making little tin men out of empty beer cans.
Lieutenant General Odi Brum, but my friendim call me "Gol"
In charge of the David’s Fist weapons system
Chappel Trap House
Beyond whether it's "good politics," an endorsement from Dick fucking Cheney on the basis of CHARACTER (?!) is not a positive sign about that person's fucking character.
Some of my lib friends got mad at me for saying that Cheney endorsing Harris was a pretty strong argument for voting Trump. I still can't really parse the logic that brought them to "Cheney's endorsement is a good thing".
That outro song is grim
Okay, the Colonel does look pretty exasperated in that photo.
Poor Colonel Sanders man. hahaha. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/30/f4/19/30f419e37a41f5c8de65af415caef59c.jpg
I took Chappell getting cyberbullied as a decidedly pro-Harris omen.
In-tee-fuh-DAH
Fus ro DAHHH
The calculation isn’t that they think they can win by running on unpopular issues. They’re not going to cross the imperial project.
As soon as I saw Harris bring out Liz Cheney in Wisconsin I knew they were cooked. Four more years of Trump!
The new thing on conservative talk radio is talking about how Doug Emhoff beats the shit out of women and impregnated his kids’ 19 year old nanny and then pressured her into having an abortion
A post birth one?!
Another episode with no mention of fighter jets.
SAD!
death to israel, and victory to the intifada. long live the resistance. all glory to the martyrs.
Are you referring to the 2nd In-Tifah-Dah?
I am leaning more towards Will's outlook on the coming election: Harris and Walz may blow this whole fucking thing with having nothing to stand for, no future to look towards. I dunno, it's all up in the air. God.
lol
Does every mainstream American institution think that it has to hit six million to technically be a holocaust or something
If it’s not from the six million dead region it’s not a holocaust it’s just a sparkling ethnic cleansing
"antifa-duh" felix stayin with the bit until the day he dies
I thought these words actually were versions of each other until a few months ago
Dude, the latest edition of Don't Believe Your Lying Eyes, with every mainstream media outlet putting out articles claiming every criticism of the Helene response is "disinformation" and "conspiracy" and Trump and maybe also Russia somehow is so fucking crazy-making.
The Russians pulled out the weather machine Stalin used against Ukraine and set it to too much rain.
got too stressed out listening to this before bed gotta save the rest for tomorrow
Yes. When they all go into negativity it really is anxiety inducing
Intífada
Felix begins speaking
When??? Come on Travis we need to know.
Orange manul bad
Felix, with the funniest pronunciation of intifada I’ve heard
https://www.procyclingstats.com/rider/oded-kogut Oded Kogut, israeli cyclist
An Odie, if I've ever seen one
Looks like slop's back on the menu
The dark slop, filling the nightmare trough
Trump is to Nelson Muntz as Elon is to Martin Prince. Everyone knows the Simpsons freezeframe I’m talkin bout right?
We live in the zone 2 christman boogaloo
Going for it
Furst