848 - Straight Drop Kitchen feat. Ryan Grim & Jeremy Scahill (7/8/24)
We’re joined by Ryan Grim & Jeremy Scahill of the NEW independent journalism venture Drop Site News. We look at how the Biden campaign meltdown has pushed the war in Palestine out of the news, and the relationship between Biden’s long history of bad policies and the current crises he’s leading. Plus, mainstream media’s failed coverage of both topics, and some Drop Site reporting on Democratic megadonors gives a glimpse into Joe Biden’s aggrieved and petty motivations.
Support Jeremy & Ryan’s independent journalism and check out Drop Site at: https://dropsitenews.com/
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<blockquote><p>North Korea says Israel is a murderous, bandit, genocidal, and barbaric state. pic.twitter.com/iXuHHslKaQ</p>— Globe Eye News (@GlobeEyeNews) August 28, 2024</blockquote>
Ryan running cover for the squad to preserve his access while writing a book means we can never know if he's being real or not, maybe he's preserving access for his next thing
Excellent guests
Heart hands in the chat for Matt 🫶
Can you get an Edgar if you have a bit of a widow’s peak?
If Will and Felix ever open up a 3rd spot permanently it needs to be someone with the same untethered rage at the system as Christman
Matt Christman's way of verbalizing all of our ANGER is sorely missed.
On the point of Biden having said he would genocide Canada if they were like Lebanon to Menachem Begin during the invasion of Lebanon: Kathy Hochul literally said the exact same thing in 2024!!! https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/02/17/politics/kathy-hochul-canada-hamas-israel
Canadian civilians genuinely better pray not a single person from your country ever gets any ideas about America. . .
Fantastic episode
It's somehow reassuring and comforting to hear a big important journalist like Ryan Grim echo our recognition of Matt as an important intellectual figure on the contemporary left. I've been thinking for a few years he and Briahna Joy Gray are taking over for Chomsky (because of course no one person could equal Chomsky's output, or range). I think of Gray as taking on Chomsky's role of Socratic questioning of the official narratives, in a way that maybe eclipses Chomsky in that specific remit. I think she might actually be better at it than Socrates was, a real hero and genius. I expect either we get a better system or she ends up a martyr. And Matt as subsuming Chomsky's role of analysing the whole overall zeitgeist and synthesizing new ways of expressing a leftist understanding of it, but critically, in the contemporary vernacular. Chomsky was never afraid to let slip his annoyance at official hypocrisy, but Matt really embraces expressing our rage at it as a kind of self conscious project. I'd like to add, though, that I feel something important is missing in Matt's Spanish Civil War series, and that's Chris Wade's narrative framework setting up Matt to riff on. I just don't think it's as good when Matt has to do both roles.
There is something magical when it’s Matt & Chris + history.
Jeremy Scahill been that dude for a minute. He’s a god dang problem for the state
joatmeal will name his own presidential succesors in this order: wife, dead son, live son
Reality Winner is doing a 5 and a half year bid because of the intercepts’ ineptitude. I remember listening to Scahill defend their position the following week, and it made me sick. That was the last time I gave Scahill any attention. I’m glad he’s cutting his ties from the intercept(and its billionaire SV backing) but there’s a certain irony in calling the NYT sloppy, and how journalistic institutions don’t check each other as they did before. I look forward to hearing from more Palestinian Journalists(primarily sources) in the future, as opposed to very comfortable podcasters who have little stake in frankly any outcome.
This wolf howls with happiness for the following reasons: —Top Quality slop 💎 —Excellent Guests ✌️ —Matt mentions ❤️
Has it been circulating yet that Pelosi’s quote this morning is exactly what Tony Soprano says in S3E13? “More important than the particular decision is that it be made *in a timely fashion*” (after the other guy already had made his decision clear)
can't agree more: Young Biden with his faculties intact was more of a threat to prosperity and the American dream than current Joe being drugged and controlled by the deep state. Amazing episode.
i could listen to jeremy’s rant at the beginning 50 times in a row. great episode. thank you for being one of the only american outlets doing real journalism right now <3
About time Chapo talked about Project 2025 lol
The way this information is really not readily available to Americans bless you're actively looking for it or are exposed to it on social media is really disturbing to me. Like if I was to talk with my coworker about this I would sound insane but it's because that's what ""they"" want!!! thank you for discussing these topics
Getting that old “Crossfire” vibe. Thanks for your continued attention to this and platforming Ryan and Jeremy!
Pretty strange you never mentioned the Grayzone in the debunking of the mass rape story. Did Ryan Grim tell you not to?
It's crazy how right Blumenthal has been during this entire saga of events since October 7th. I used to think he was a crank, but he has been ahead of the curve the entire time.
Really enjoyed this one. Good work gang.
The craziest thing about post debate Biden and the dnc is the Dems are acting like it's a primary. That they don't have to deal with trump bringing up bidens inability to speak. The fact that if it's past 8pm bidens team will press the nuke button. They are acting like it's only going to be the Democrats that can tarnish Biden and remind the public that Biden is an old old old man. Not that one of the best trolls in the present day isn't going to just destory Biden. Like today. Challenging Biden to another debate and a round of golf. It's joever.
Does anyone know the reference to where Matt spoke about the ways that liberals shirk responsibility? Was that on a CushVlog or other episode? Thanks if anyone knows the specifics!
I know he at least says it in the 2nd or 3rd ep of his Spanish Civil War series, though I don't *think* that's the actual origin.
I think these two are the biggest Biden haters Chapo has had on. Biden has always had a horrible brain. It just runs slow now
Bernie would have had no problem finding people.
Get Stephen hawking’s old chair off facebook marketplace for Matt asap
*sigh* That would be better than this
You know it's 2016 vibes all over again when Felix is niche namedropping MMA references all over the place
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We call him Big Dick Scahill here in the gray wolf community
Biden is playing Grim Fandango IRL
He drank the hookah water
The great march of return was in 2018, not 2021. It was during the Trump Presidency.
Love how they have to do a pseudo eulogy for Matt at the end of every episode
END of EVERY episode huh, damn man this is my all time fave podcast and you might be a more complete listener even than I am, hell yeah man good taste on you
As Ryan Grim has appeared a couple of times on Chapo, I have reluctantly given more respect to him than I used to. He always seemed to be a ShitLib on the level of his collaborator Krystal Ball (who I admit is very good on Gaza, unlike her racist flunky Saagar) and that ilk. I am speculating that he has been radicalized a bit by the ongoing genocide as he used to seem mostly a TPTB lapdog. Good on Ryan, it's nice to see that people can grow & improve.
His book We Got People has great reporting on Obama dropping the ball on the public option, they could have easily rolled Lieberman if they actually cared at all
"They're dabbing on us. Folks, that's right. They're dabbing on us." Christman, 2020.
Monster ep
Felt like classic chapo sans Matt (nice to hear all the love for him at the end). The vibe was a real chapo timewarp, had that classic feel and kept waiting for Matt to rant in on a cheap mic.
That first rant back in the trap is going to be cathartic
Great episode. You should have one of these guys on at least once a month.
Grim is usually great, but there's something about his voice that rings insincere to me. Maybe it's just too resonant and radio pretty for my taste 🤔
I think that quality is what has allowed him to operate in liberal Washington circles for so long, despite is progressive politics.
I hope they learned some Opssec lessons because notoriously the Intercept very quickly became the Newspaper that if you leak to you Go to Prison Instantly
I love Will’s vocabulary btw. Always feel like i hear a turn of phrase or word I really like every week.
I always appreciate MMA references from Felix
Got glassy eyed when they were talking about Matt
we've had the same damn general election 3 times in a goddamn row
real centrism has never been tried
This whole thing reminds me of Matt screaming “It has to be THEM! It HAS TO be THEM!!!” in regards to the old democrat mentality of never stepping down or getting out of the way and their megalomania.
when Liz and Brace were gaming out possible nomination shenanigans and Liz tagged in HRC I threw up in my mouth
I gawfawed so loudly that my husband asked what I had heard, and when I told him he said "keep dreamin"
I’d love Ryan and/or Jeremy to be more frequent guests. Two of our best journalists on the left
Man, it's crazy how big of a shadow Matt casts over the show's politics and larger message. Hope he's feeling better and loving on his girls
add we
My drug cocktail theory is modafinil and gabapentin
A "football match??" The vile taint of globalism has infected even my beloved Chapo
I hope they were like "we apologize that we incorrectly referred to this person as her nephew in the spirit of full transparency we issue this retraction. In that same spirit were waiting for the NYT to retract their entire article"
Ofc Jeremy is right, but i feel like ranting. I will never understand why so many people ever thought that if your wife died in a car crash you must be a good person. Biden never showed empathy in his fucking life, and the way he treats the drug crimes of Hunter is the prime example: not only does everyone's crackhead son need to be DISAPPEARED FOREVER except for his crackhead son, but HOW DARE YOU suggest that his family is like other families, how dare you comment on his heroic capacity to forgive the debts of his own spawn on behalf of society, how dare you even notice that his son is a worse criminal than many people in prison with long sentences. Say "Joe Biden suffered" as if it means anything, as if millions of people haven't suffered the exact fate and he cares fuck all, as if his apparent graces on the matter are anything more than pure projection, and you get the pay no mind list forever.
Also important to remember that the car crash was completely Biden's wife's fault, so it was Biden's wife who killed herself and his daughter. God, could Neilia drive a car...
One of the biggest pros Trump has going for him as potentially being re-elected is that if he simply continues Biden's policies in Gaza, brain dead libs will actually start demanding a fucking genocide to be stopped
Zero chance of this ever happening regardless of who's president
22:51 what's the difference between scrambling and ignoring?
Awesome show dudes
“The demand on the Palestinians has always been to die quietly.” - November Kelly (Trashfuture podcast)
Haaretz Reporting confirmed independent reporting by outlets such as Electronic Intifada AND The GREYZONE. See guys, it wasn’t hard, nobody burst into flames.
You going to run up on Will on a public bus and yell at him while recording video over this?
god damn that biden clip his brain is like fucking puréed
You must be thoughtful when characterizing
"Biden was thinking... actually I wouldn't accuse Biden of thinking" - Jeremy lmao
i read jeremy scahill’s blackwater book and it was great just so everyone knows im smart and likable
I've read 3 of his books, so obviously I am 3x's more likeable and smarterer.
Matt love to wrap the show <333
“I wouldn’t accuse Biden of thinking” lmao
Hamas prefers Zoom
Came here for this lmao
Radio War Nerd had a whole segment on how dumb gettleman is
Which ep?
28:14 - "but the fact that nobody's done this [fact checked the NYT's Screams without Words story] except The Intercept and, now presumably, Drop Site News"... I think Will is forgetting a few people... "forgetting"
Biden sits down across from George Stephanopoulos for his 15-minute interview. "Thank you for being here, Mr. President" "Alright jack just let me get settled and then you can start" "Oh, sorry, take your time but I'm not the one who's conducting this interview" "Huh?" Stone cold Steve Austin music starts playing, Ryan Grim and Jeremy Scahill walk in the door through a fog machine
The DemoniusX vs. Dan Quinn heuristic always makes me imagine Trump, at a debate, interrupting Biden with "I cummed in my condom and it felt wonderful"
Biden fulfilled his campaign promise to cure cancer. He put stevia and water in a blender and created Pure H2O.
Fantastic interview, thanks guys for your continued coverage
This was a great episode and these two guests are always on top of everything. Thanks for the ep. Mr chapo
Drop ship news?
My hero Jeremy
Maybe the Patreon moderators are finally on the job. The last time I checked the comments section a few weeks ago, there was an inordinate number of toxic and hostile comments: Fed, Hater, Bot. Take your pick.
I'm a hater.
Scahill strikes back
Death to nazis inshallah
Great conversation. Just exemplary journalists here. Thank you!
Good to know ryan is striking out on his own with jeremy. I will be looking forward to their work.
Jeremy Scahill is such a real one, can't wait to check out their new site
Great guests!
Flowers for CushKing at the end of the ep I’m 😭❤️
Babe wake up, new episode of the podcast posted on the internet page
It's 11am I'm already awake and don't call me babe 😡
Glorious slop
To listen to this I shall be taking off all of my clothes in the Home for the Senile I am confined to and binge eating Werther’s Originals while refusing to go to bed
wow my nightly schedule
Scahill fucking rocks; Dirty Wars is such a great book
Omg! Ryan💘 and Jeremy💘 So dope!!
Buss down sloppianna
A bountiful harvest of slop for us insomnia hogs and people that can't fall asleep because it's too hot and we're too poor to afford AC.
Inshallah in my caliphate we will all have AC and it will smell like cotton candy vape.
Thank you guys for not letting up on the Gaza coverage + discussion
Oh hell yes.
Thank god I can’t sleep
Ya