Marriage, Murder, Malice & The Mob - Palos Park, Illinois
This week, in Palos Park, Illinois, when a woman, with a high powered husband is found horribly murdered, there seems to be no clues for detectives to go on. The reason ends up being that they weren't looking very hard. As a matter of fact, they were trying not to solve it. This all comes to the surface, when a huge cabal of police, mafia members, and one particular attorney is outed for their corruption, including brothels, bribery, and cold blooded murder. When one of the killers finally cracks, the whole sordid, and very personal story becomes public!!
Along the way, we find out that it used to be a lot easier to "lose" a car, that wanting someone ito be immedietely cremated looks incredibly suspicious, and that if you want to get away with murder (at least for a little while) it really helps to have the lead detective in your pocket!!
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Just FYI on wife's employer insurance policy. Generally an employee is.not covered for insurance for routine commute to & from work. But there are exceptions when trip is for the express and non routine purpose at request of employer. BTW this is a fantastic podcast. Thank you 😊
I’ve been to a Mike and Joe gig and my mom loves 5 Guys Named Moe 😂
The boys trying to figure out pantyhose’s how to 😅 Adorable!🥰
Mob guy's seem to have routinely installed their own people into Police departments - think Whitey Bulger and FBI Agent Connolly. I may get some flack but I don't care, this is my personal observation, those "alpha male" types don't really like women. They don't like us, they have no respect for us, so yeah, no problem getting rid of one or two that appear to be causing them problems. Y'all know who you are. If the shoe fits, oh fkg well.
I did *not* stand up in my cubicle and scream "SHUT UP AND GIVE ME MURDER" hahah but for the first time ...... I could have!
Ironically ludacris will be at my county fair this weekend lol
Can’t wait for the Murder Cops bonus episode. Hopefully James knows a guy who knows a guy who can explain how one of the murder cops scored a cameo in Goodfellas as Fat Andy. I love any episode where James is either referencing Goodfellas or specifically quoting from it. I’m sure such an episode will have a good bit of that.
I love how when James says Lt. Keating is probably dead by now, Jimmie so casually says “Ass cancer, I hope.”
My VERY Italian maternal grandmother’s parents had a lot of land in upstate New York and…. Now I have questions.
Wild episode 👏 Would love to see the boys do a history channel!
Where's the 2026 Chicago show. I had to see you in Nashville! (Not that I'm complaining... But I am) Hahaha
Coloralls were pantyhose with sewn in panties. However lots of women didn’t wear panties under pantyhose.. if you did, it was very easy to remove the hose and your panties at the same time.
Masters died on my birthday 😂
Guys the reason they were called pantyhose is that the top part was meant to BE the panty. But most people just wore them over their regular undies.
Perhaps she wasn't wearing panties.
The party hose conversation had me dying 😂 just to be clear, yes there are some panty hoses designed that you do not need to wear underwear. And then there’s cheap ones that you have to wear underwear with. I’d guess she’s a classy lady she probably had the good ones.
1:09:40 Reminder that you promised murder cops
This episode was so weird. I had to rewind a lot hahaha
I lived there when all this happened.
Ain't it a shame they still have to do a minute-fifteen disclaimer at the top of every episode?... Aren't there enough of us Turkeys now to eat ANYONE alive who DARES besmirch the good name of Small Town Murder?!... In the name of an appropriately delivered Roast - Ruuuuuuude 😅😂
Lol the disclaimer isn’t for us, it’s for the new listeners.
ARRA is the Asian cover band for ABBA.
Past no morals whore here. I had an on off affair with a man for five years and his wife never knew still today. She thinks her husband is And was an angel.🙄🙄
This was barn burner!
Sopranos re bee hive hairdo. Carmella talks about Tony’s dad shooting through his mom’s hair
Sorry watching from Australia 🦘
What's going on with Netflix, no new episodes?.
What do you mean? Wednesday’s episode is up! Today’s will be out later this evening…
On Soprano Home Movies episode they talk about Tony’s dad shooting thru his mom’s hair.
10:10 "Unaccessible? Unusable!" 😂 I love Jimmi's tenuous grasp of the English language 😁 12:00🕎🔯 FINALLY ✡️🕎
"My tattoo artist is deaf." I guess it's better than being blind.😂
Yes, please do a Bonus episode of the NYPD murder cops Louis Eppolito and Steven Caracappa!!! I’ve watched so many true crime shows and listened to a bunch of podcasts about the mafia cops.
Jimmie: “Go give money to all the Moes.” LOL
I totally agree with you about ww1. It was the things nightmare is made of
Pantyhose was an evolution change from stockings and garters. They had a small cotton crotch so you could wear them as panties but I always wore my own under them. And they almost always came off together when taking them off.
Pantyhose did have a thicker material at the top. I always assumed it was a replacement for a girdle. 🤷♀️ Generally speaking when taking panty hose off undies always came off with them. Good job explaining pantyhose guys! You were pretty much spot on.
Idk if I heard him right, but I think James said "Joe's Respectable Dinners" and that absolutely cracked me up. 😅🤣🤣
Underwear goes over pantyhose! They would come off together
Prefacing this comment with the note that I love this podcast... BUT.. it so seems like anytime Jimmy has an opinion about certain historical things; what war was the worst - James really drives his opinion harder and trumps it. Lol 😆 seems ironic considering "Your Stupid Opinions" 👌🫣
I love this podcast more than literally anything else out there I could listen to or watch! But I get in my feels sometimes because I love Jimmy, and I feel like he’s just constantly told he’s wrong. Don’t get me wrong… I love James, too, and they obviously have a great relationship with the kind of banter that works perfectly for them! I just get over sensitive now and then and I’m all “aw James come on now… let him make it once in a while” 😆
SOPRANOS! That’s where shooting through the beehive hairstyle is referenced 😂
I now want a T shirt that says, "Don't disrespect the Pinot!"
Pay-Lis is how you say it 😂 yeah we’re weird over here
You are so close. Pantyhose was exactly what you said. Panty, hose. They usually had a control top and a gusseted crotch and were meant to be worn without panties. I did anyway because…you know how people used to put pantyhose over their face as a gag because then their face looks all smashed and weird underneath…? Yeah. Source: me, 52, formerly required to wear pantyhose at work in the ‘90s as a court stenographer
This. Had to wear them in the 80s and 90s. No panties, just hose.
I fucking love when James goes on about how cool his wife is.
Cheers Jimmie! Drinking my Kendall Jackson as I watch you guys on Netflix. Hahahaha
Pantyhose suck. I live in Oklahoma where it is 100+ in the summer and in the early 80s women were required to wear panty hose at my job if we wore skirts. The only thing they are good for is a permanent yeast infection. Also, there were some that were marketed as having panty tops but again, yeast abounded(for me anyway) I stopped wearing them after that job and never looked back. Also...I never thought I would ever make a public comment about yeast infections but here we fucking are...lol.
Normalize talking about the shit that comes along with being a woman!
What a great episode!!! Hard work, James.
I am always so amazed at how seamless and perfect his storytelling is!
Carlsbad, Ca is definitely NOT a desert retreat. Think of southern California coastal elite... thanks to Jimmie for partially clarifying that it's one of the more beautiful parts of San Diego. It's a gorgeous, expensive beach city
So why were her pantyhose and/or panties off if she wasn’t killed in the house? I need an explanation!!!
I wondered that too🤔
I was NOT expecting the wine bottle tidbit. Wtf lmao
Some women do not wear underwear with pantyhose!
In a weird Sam Giocana fact in the 50s when wrestling was on the Dumont network he alledgedly threatened Lou Albano and Tony Altomore who were a very successful tag team, The Sicilians, to drop the gimmick for bringing the Mafia into disrepute.
Im from this area. The real life Tony Spilotro (Joe Peschi) and his brother were murdered in my hometown, Bensenville, and buried in Indiana cornfields. It was the only fun history my town had until a data center plowed over the murder house.... 🫠🫠🫠
it's frosty wine bottles they're magically delicious! I'm rolling laughing about the please fuck me with trash comment lmmfao
Did they recycle the wine bottle?
Recycling wasn't really a thing in the 80s... 😂
Oh damn. I work in Willow Springs, across the street from the canal they talk about in here. There’s a good Giancana book called Double Cross
It was the sopranos with the story about Tony’s dad shooting through his moms hair and they show it in many saints of Newark
The beehive hairdo shooting is from the Sopranos
"you can shove your sport pepper adorned hot dog up your ass" made me choke on iced tea
I love you guys. Oddly, my first ever Patreon comment is to say, both of you should just try to put on a pair of panty hose. A torture device, had to be invented by someone who never intended to wear those ****ers! A useless comment on a fascinating story!
Yup. TG they went away! I stopped in the early 90s and never went back. Those thing were uncomfortable, ran all the time and smelled bad by the end of the day, not to mention how you could never find them in the right skin tone. Looked pretty stupid to wear a sleeveless dress with my pale arms but "suntan" pantyhose because that's all you could find in the stores.
Yes I used to get audiobooks for the blind, it's the National Library Service. It was ok but very limited back in the early 2000's. I'm so thankful for Audible and other options now. Awesome episode, with a mob tie in is great. Ed Kemper read for the NLS, I was always trying to find a book he read.
What fascinates me is that there’s more than 700 ep and these guys keep hittin me with cases that I’ve never heard of…STM best podcast out here hands down
Totally agree!🙌🏻 Not even just STM but the three of their podcasts in general are just always top notch!💪🏻 Then, we haven’t even mentioned all the bonus content they provide for us on here. Absolutely mind blowing 🤯 They are seriously the best at what they do. Never disappointed tuning into anything Jimmie and James do!
He shot my hair is from Spaceballs the movie 😆
Sadly, Jack Reed passed away recently. Like 2 or 3 years ago
Can we talk about how cute it was when James was talking about Sarah?!?! The way his face lit up with the diamond story!!! It was so sweet
Domestic Violence is very common among law enforcement.
About time we got a NAGILLA!!!!!!!!
No love for Wisconsin. 🥺
How can you not mention the movie “The Departed”?
As someone from the area, we also can’t agree on how to pronounce these things.
Great, now I want to go to Portillo's.. only 1000 miles away
The "movie" that James is referring to where the lady gets shot in her beehive is actually a Sopranos episode. Janice is telling the story of how their dad shot their mom in the beehive.
And this is why I read the comments before I say some shit. Thank you
The bullet hole through the beehive made me think of the line in Polyester, “I never wanted to use macrame to kill!”
63 yr old lady here, yup, in the 80’s panties got wrung all into the tops of the pantyhose unless you were really careful from the start when removing. Especially control top! 1AM, after drinking, dammit, dealing with that in the morning.
The underwear conversation 🤣
But did Sarah ultimately accept the ring, or did James return it? I have outstanding questions 😅
I loved when James told the story of how Sarah reacted when he got her a diamond ring. (“Oh I can’t wear this! It’s too much!”) The way he spoke about her, and Jimmie agreeing with how “cool” she is was so genuine and real. ❤️ “I’m standing there with a diamond ring in my hand, arguing!” -James Starting about 1:29:37
My fiancé got me a silver ring with a sapphire. He knows my metal allergies and that I think diamonds are boring. And then I lost it because I didn't take it to get resized right away! 😅 His friends freaked out until he was like "it was $250, if she can't find it she'll buy herself a new one." I did not find it, and actually replaced it for cheaper because shaneco.com is cheaper than the brick and mortar stores. Some of those friends spent 5-figures on their wives' rings! I don't own anything that expensive besides my house! Oh, but one of their wives is worth easily 10x what he paid and would have said yes to a Ring Pop. I miss her, they moved away because her employer thought as highly of her as I do.
Pantyhose Talk with James and Jimmie
Woman over 55 here, a lot of women wore pantyhose without underwear, it was much easier and they didn't bunch up and give you a huge wedgie.
And they did make pantyhose with attached panties-the top of the pantyhose were opaque so it looked like panties
She took off her pantyhose because she went straight to the bathroom. She probably sighed in relief after a whole day with those things on. 😆 I know this because I'm old.
💯 - men, you thought ties were uncomfortable? No contest. And back in the day, pantyhose was a standard staple of a woman's wardrobe, especially in an office setting. I realize I'm dating myself, but hey the struggle was real!
“Fuck me with trash”😂😂😂 That’s gotta be a new shirt, pick your cereal character
Love when I wake up and there's a new episode just waiting to be listened to
I look forward to the bonus about those cops who pulled people over then they disappeared.
The spilotro’s came to my grandparents house. To do non mob dealings with my grandpa lol.
Yeah, I don’t live too far from there either. Tony and Michael were beaten to death in a house in the town I live in.
I subbed at Lincoln at went to Elmhurst college (one of my 9😂)
I told my husband to never buy me diamonds, I’d prefer something I could use .
Diamonds are boring! A couple years ago my mother gave me the silver and emerald jewelry she inherited from my Great Aunt Eleanor. I was excited because I had always coveted those. Since I was a small child. Diamonds are boring, I like colors! I work from home and the pearls Grandmother left me (matching set for all of the girl grandkids) and the emerald necklace are on my desk to throw on with my professional tops (it's the spare room, I keep the button ups and cardigans in that closet) in case I get dragged into meetings with executives.
It's pronounced 'Pay-lows'
Did you catch the part when James said he didn't care?
This may be the best episode ever.
Holy shit what a story. Thought it’d be your typical husband wife kinda thing but nope. Insane.
I love Mike and Joe!!!
Chicagoland staple
This is how I find out Treat Williams died.
Ed Kemper did tons of books for the blind.. js
He did have a soothing voice, which somehow made what he did extra creepy!
I know you all couldn't possibly fathom another podcast, but I would be so thrilled if you guys did a comedy mob history podcast. I just don't think anyone could tell those stories as well as James could.
Maybe some bonus episodes of Mob stories? That'd be pretty fun
Nagilla!!!!
Cracks me up about Eldorado Illinois. That’s El-Doe-Ray-Doe 🤣
I used to take our churches youth group to Buehlah, in Eldorado years ago.
Yea!!!!!❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️