Like An Evil Onion - Whitewater, Colorado
This week, in Whitewater, Colorado, a horribly murdered man sparks an investigation that shows that someone may have been after him for a while, even trying to blow up his car, weeks before his death. But a threatening note to his widow, claiming "you're next" blows the case wide open, leading to a treasure trove of evidence. The suspect turns out to be the last person that the dead man would've expected, and it also turns out that this murderer has no depths to which they will not sink!!
Along the way, we find out that there are an awful lot of ghost stories in the mountains, that when someone tries to blow you up, you should maybe be pretty curious to find out who did it, and that cutting a barcode off of a card doesn't mean it's not traceable!!
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Comments (110)
40 acres and a mule?
A company who took out life insurance policies on their workers, by creating an algorithm of who was most likely to die and profiting from it........was WALMART. They did it with my mother. Claimed they dropped her life insurance policy while she was on sick leave with terminal cancer & had no payout for her funeral I told them I would be suing them and going to the media after the funeral They had just been caught profiting from employee deaths at that time. They overnighted a check to the funeral home, plus $12,000 extra. Didn't even tell me they were doing it. Funeral director told me in morning, when I went in to pay him. TRUE STORY
Jimmy the woman taking in people (potential husbands) and killing them was right by me, in Laporte, Indiana. She disappeared and was never found, once authorities started digging up bodies in her yard. There was another in Sacramento, California. She had a boarding house and was killing tenants. You are likely thinking of Belle Gunness, a notorious serial killer who operated a rural farm in LaPorte, Indiana, in the early 1900s, rather than a boarding house landlady. (A famous boarding house case where a woman buried tenants in her yard was Dorothea Puente in Sacramento, California, during the 1980s).
Jimmy......A mule and 40 acres was said to the slaves when freed.
James, you're mad at someone saying you don't understand grief- but YOU were announcing how long "anyone" should grieve.
Love you both!
Daniel Donato!!!
Can we PLEASE get a cocoa lumps shirt 😂
minute 54: made me CACKLE. My 22yo brother was the 4th person I lost in a 18-month span. I felt like a professional griever by then. The day after he died, I said aloud “Well. I guess I should pay my phone bill so I know if anyone else dies”
The most suspicious thing she did was move BACK to Jacksonville. That place is awful...no one moves there willingly 🤣
The cereal conversation had me crying I was laughing so hard
I'm sorry guys, but eagles can and do carry off small dogs where I live!! Pacific north west eagles are huuuge
I think my favorite thing in the world is listening to adult men talking about cereal 🤣
Haha lazy boner
Unlucky charms, jokes, coco lumps 🤣
I was dying at this part
The man drove a Roadmaster one of the last V8 rear wheel drive American station wagons you could get. I respect this man's car choices
I always felt you two were old souls, but as someone who’s 62 (and with my s/o since 15), listening to the opening of this episode confirmed it. You two get it! AND you made me laugh about it. Adore you both.
The cereal bit had me wheezing 😂
Return of Robot James at the end 🤣
I'm outside on a run and I look like a psycho knee slapping.
Froot hoops. I'm dying.
Thank you for covering Colorado again
As someone who traveled to Denver just to attend STM's live show, it makes me so happy that James and Jimmie had a great time that night. I still giggle about that JonBenet joke 🤣🤣🤣
Jimmie is right, around the 1:15 mark. There was a woman who did this. Dorathea Puente. It’s this case: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorothea_Puente?wprov=sfti1
Cocoa Lumps.
Wow you guys did the episode about my Uncle (Michael Spell) and now you guys do a town that’s right next to me. I feel targeted 😂
Meg
My Dad went to college with Alan at Adams State and reconnected with him when he moved back to GJ in 2004. He was super bummed because they were old pool buddies and he didn't have a lot of friends there yet.
cocoa lumps, froot hoops and honey cracks lmaooo
What’s up with Patreon not downloading episodes again. Is anyone else having the issues?
"Trax is for kids!"🤣
Jokes instead of Trix lmaoooo 😂😂😂
I wish on Netflix you can show pictures and videos of the victims and guilty. I understand not showing the real estate, but clips of small town events will add to your Netflix show
😂 😂 😂. Someone should really let them know.
"you didn't get tricks you got jokes!" Lol had me belt out a laugh on the treadmill
Happy Birthday!
Not that anyone cares haha... But. My grandma Joan was born a Helmick :)
My maiden name is Helms ha! So I definitely wouldn’t have slipped up and said Hemlich!
Jimmie remembering the killer landlady. Dorothea Puente who killed people for insurance and buried them in her garden.
Freud said that quote “insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”
Delta is not desert!
It's high desert.
You two are so uninformed! When you are 65, you will be healthy. Sex is still important! The fun is still ahead of you. 75 might be old, maybe m as be not! Sex still in the heart and in the brain. Then men start to get old. We women are left with few options. Old guys who want us to play with their limp junk or need a care giver. Rather be alone with the favorite podcasts and read.
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“Should we murder/suicide, is that what we’re doing?”… “HahahahahSNORT”
Adam's State College is in Alamosa. Way South.
Italians are allowed in Colorado. Must be an amnesty program. My friend Joe Schaippacasse was always honored there.
Metal roofs are snow slide roofs. Keeps the weight of heavy snow off the roof. Smart.
Palisades is a thriving fruit crops area. Famous, Jimmie! You should know that!!
And it has one of the best restaurants in the state, Peche (because you know…peaches).
40 acres is a section
Near Parachute and Grand Junction
Fracking
Love all you're podcast's
Grand Junction has a nice little airport which we've used effectively for a few years. This is where we refuel, not where we begin or end our trip
I gotta get some Trix. Damn🐰
Omg, I am about to pass out, I’m listening to you guys naming the cereals.
I need to know what happened in Jimmies life to make him have this new "WHAAT?!" lol
There's a place in East Yorkshire, England, called Wet Wang.
I am off topic. Watching weather, I live in Shreveport, LA, my sisters lives in Lafayette,LA. While checking the weather her area where she lives I heard that there is a town named Effing , IL,! We didn’t get bad weather! We’re fine. Thanks for asking lol.
Another really interesting and hilarious case of using the homeless for life insurance is Michael Malloy aka the Rasputin of the Bronx. He was an Irishman who was targeted during the Depression by the owner of his favorite bar and had multiple attempts on his life that he kept accidentally surviving. At one point they tried to target a different homeless man and he survived so they tried again with Malloy and eventually killed him. But they fucked up and ended up getting hanged in the end.
Wait…. Tina Manley?! Raise your hand!!! That’s my maiden name lol. And my dead aunts maiden name 😂
Wow this was sure just a bunch of lies and murder
My graduation class had 27 kids and it was the biggest class they had ever had up.til then That was in 1999
Jimmie's"DANCE BITCH!" 😂☠️😂
Jimmie! You would probably really like No Country for Old Men. If for nothing else, the awesome trucks in it. 🩷
Loved the cereal rant. The bootleg bags were like buying cereal from Temu.
Not all pigs look the same 😂
Agree that Miriam is an old lady name among Christians, but is still a fairly common girl’s name among Jews and Arabs, and is how Muslims refer to Jesus’s mother, “Mary” (and it would’ve been her actual name in Hebrew/Aramaic).
I'm a cleaner who is literally looking at someone else's shit stains as I listen 😫😆 clients either completely ignore us or tell us EVERYTHING. We know it all!!
Talking about minor annoyances às a curse reminds me of the Golden Girls episode where Sophia curses the guy who left her at the alter in Sicily by saying, "May your socks always fall down into your shoes." Slow-acting, long-lasting, worth watching 😇😈 Dude can't get across the room without stopping to pull up his socks.
My son saw Magoo in February!! I asked him if the band was named after Mr. Magoo. One of the band member told him this: Magoo said one of their grandpa’s used to use the word “magoo” a lot, like when referring to a bunch of stuff. “I need to clean up the magoo in the garage”. 😂😂😂
Ha! This is where my husband and I will be intered when we die. Our Will donates our bodies to the Forensic institute there.
My dad donated his body, too! He passed in 2017 from pancreatic cancer, but he always said he wanted to contribute to finding the cure for heart disease, so this was him doing his part.
I use to have a long haired black cat named Umfoofoo.
(2:00:44) "you die, this shits over. I'm taking it and running. All 80 grand" Hey... at least Jimmie is honest. 😂
40 acres is very important in history. 40 acres and a mule is what was promised to every freed slave after abolition.
I can’t believe I had to scroll this far to find it - come on my guys!!
"that's a sleepy boner!"
They haven’t seen: No Country for Old Men????
I fell asleep watching it. Boring as 💩
I just almost spit out my coffee when Jimmie yelled “Dance bitch!!” 🤣😭👏🏻
I know The Slocan Ramblers! 🤣 It's a bluegrass Canadian band.
Lucky Stars instead of Lucky Charms 😭 whatta sad time to be alive
Horse riding lessons are $50/$250 an hour. Board is $500/$1500 a month. Training is usually $1000/$2000 a month on top of board. So its actually a good business. People are ALWAYS looking for places to board
Thank you Jessica I was hoping someone would enlighten them lol. Said it was Sport horses so chances are people have their own horse/s board and get lessons and training.
The cereal names are killing me! 🤣🤣 My coworkers are wondering why I’m laughing so hard.
Omg me too! I'm cleaning my toilet listening to this and loling so hard in the bowl. I can relate so hard
Talking about store brand cereal, and bag cereal when I was growing up I had bagged cereal and my dad never bought store-bought milk. We always had powdered milk. Granted my dad was born in 1930 and was very very frugal.
Ive done alot of swing dancing and it never made me want to fuck whoever I was dancing with lol it feels more platonic than anything. Im too busy trying not to fuck up and worried when the guys hands are too sweaty 😂
“…calm the fuck down, tomorrows another day…” -Jimmie
Best curse is your kids forgetting how to use the bathroom. Yea you’re welcome.
Çcg
Unlucky Charms 😆😆
I love when you guys give us a glimpse into your pass struggles. James, thanks for sharing your pass experience with suicide
Little trivia: Portia is a very common name in Shakespeare plays as well.
Whenever I hear the name I’m immediately transported back to wading through Julius Caesar in the 10th grade.
My grandpa was a "man of a certain generation" who wouldn't seek help for his ptsd and anxiety. Instead, he ran the car in the garage. At first, I thought it was the most selfish thing he could do, but it only took a short time of seeing my grandma get a new lease on life to realize it was actually the best gift he could have given her. They were in their early 70s when he took his life (2001) and Grandma died 2 years ago, shortly after turning 100. We had a big party and then she shuffled off this mortal coil. She NEVER would have lived that long if my grandpa had stayed alive.
I LOVE THIS for your grandma 🥰 not that she lost her husband because I know, no matter what, that was hard for her…. but that she was finally able to live the life she wanted and enjoy her remaining years!
Did they ever further investigate the death of her daughter that didn’t use drugs with a accidental overdose, that she just happened to have a $100,000 insurance policy. No one has an insurance policy on an adult child.
My immediate thought when they mentioned the policy was “Kouri Richins but successful.”
I do agree with Jimmie; kind of seems like she couldn’t decide on poisoning him & just decided to do it quick and easy.
My cousin went to vet school in Fort Collins (far east CO). I asked her if it was pretty and she said "no, on a clear day you can see clear to Kansas". I drove to Nebraska several years ago and as soon as I got through the Rockies, it was flaaaaaaaaaaaaaat. I blasted down that interstate at about 90. 😂
Hahaha, love this episode! I can tie my shoes one handed 😂 my mother told me a story about how she was so bored growing up she taught herself to do it and bragged about her weirdo “talent”, so one day I decided to teach myself so I could take her down a peg 😂😂 didn’t work, she’s better at it than I am, but I CAN do it.
Yay indeed Jimmy
As a native of this area of Colorado the curse is that you always end up back in the Grand Valley not saying it’s true but I came back after about 7 years
Jimmie..its basically Grand Junction... 40 acres is approximately a quarter mile squared...and you actually get a mule there too!
Holy shit finally it has hit my town! I live in Grand Junction and go bouldering in Unaweep canyon by Whitewater all the time.
Howdy, neighbor! I'm over in Glenwood!
