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May 28, 2026

Puppet Master Killer - Grosse Pointe Park, Michigan

This week, in Grosse Pointe Park, Michigan, when a successful woman from the suburbs is found, brutally murdered in her car, in a Detroit alley, police originally think it could've been a robbery gone wrong. Until they discover her husband's secret life, as a BDSM dungeon master, running kinky sex parties out of the basement of his business. He also has 2 girlfirends, and an entire double life, complete with plans for a live-in threesome relationship. But does that mean he's a murderer??

Along the way, we find out that we can't tell if some bands aren't famous, or if we're just too old to know who they are, that you really need to be careful who you bring to be your murder helper, and that wanting to keep women as sex slaves doesn't automatically make you a murderer, but it doesn't help!!

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Comments (138)

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Joe Jacobbi · June 13, 2026

Mullets and jorts describes Keefe from Gemstones

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Neicy · June 5, 2026

Jimmy yelling “MONTHS!” 😂

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JOHN GORMAN · June 5, 2026

Not on subject but have the guys ever done an episode on the Gilgo beach killer?

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Hope Eggers · June 4, 2026

Omg Breakaway Michigan EDM fest is so great!! Cannabliss I immediately knew bahaha

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Cali Girl · June 4, 2026

I was a part of a yacht club it’s got anyone who stores a boat in a specific harbor there will be a yacht club. Was mainly a bunch of really old couple because it was treasure island off San Francisco which is a dumb of an island lol but it was fun. Parties and yes planning sailing trips and sailing is kick ass! It’s a challenge and adventure which is pretty fun coming from a hermit type of character.

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David Bumgardner · June 4, 2026

EDM fam let’s chat 👌🏻

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David Bumgardner · June 4, 2026

Listening to the fellas list off djs has me laughing so hard that my coworkers are getting concerned 😂

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Joel Ceja · June 4, 2026

I died laughing when they said b2b😂 ( back to back) which means two DJS are playing together mixing each artist sounds a lot more.

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nikol ewing · June 4, 2026

How have you been to a swingers club hundreds of times and hated it??😂

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melissa navin · June 3, 2026

MONTHS?!? 😂

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Eligh Cade · June 3, 2026

Jimmie, i a short man, also wear small gloves and sometimes womens gloves.

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Ecg1986 · June 3, 2026

Igor

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Dennis Scott · June 2, 2026

Jimmie made me laugh out loud in an operating room full of people " that right he needs her...oh shit he doesn't need her at all!!!"

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Kira Nevaeh · June 1, 2026

'Bob made him, he threatened him, and paid him.' - Nice little limeric James! 😆

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Katie Robinson · June 1, 2026

James calling all the edm artists "bands" is really tickling me 😂😂

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KarenRocks444 · May 31, 2026

You can't buy bdsm furniture at Lazy Boy or even Bob's Discount Furniture.😂😂

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Christopher with no last name · May 31, 2026

Seems that James is Great Value Natural Vanilla and Jimmie is Tillamook Vanilla Bean....

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KarenRocks444 · May 31, 2026

Blanche - "Isn't Danny Thomas one?" Dorothy - "Not Lebanese, Blanche, LESBIAN!!" Great Golden Girls episode.😂😂

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Hannah Courtade · May 31, 2026

Pleaseeee cover The Crash. I am begging.

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It Ain't Easy Being Eldritch · May 30, 2026

If a bruise stays for months, that means deep tissue damage.... My partner had a bad accident on his bike because of weather and his arm was bruised for like 2 months; purple, black, and blue. Jesus Christ, I feel so bad for that poor woman that said she wasn't expecting that kind of beating.... That is not what BDSM is supposed to be;if she didn't like it, that means it wasn't consensual.... 😓

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Jae Melton · May 30, 2026

I wouldn't be able to call someone "Master Bob".

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Lilly Mongold · May 30, 2026

My MIL has a master's in Healthcare business administration and she oversees several residential houses for people with various disabilities who cant live on their own. She makes sure the company is running smooth behind the scenes, all paperwork and contracts are accounted for and up to date, rules are being followed, and when board comes in to review, she makes sure all their ducks are in a row. I remember her still being in school working towards it and her complaining about her statistics class a lot. I couldn't do it. She's way smarter than I am lol

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Dahsani · May 30, 2026

Tbh Breakaway is pretty big and more of an EDM festival

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CINESCREEN STUDIOS LLC - Producers of MASH-UP Companion Podcast to Web Series · May 29, 2026

Master Bob: Uh, we’re separated. It’s just easier to say she’s dead(regarding wife). Horrible thing to say BUT also very funny! — Tonia

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Anthony derbyshire · May 29, 2026

Omg jimmies a safe choke just had me spit my cup of tea out all over the room 🤣

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Myca Chatfield · May 29, 2026

Can anyone tell me where exactly we vote for Kouri Richins or The Crash for the next bonus episode?

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Dezmon Nelson · May 29, 2026

The festival in the beginning is a EDM festival 🤣🤣🤣 its house music and dubstep. You guys aren't too old its just the rave scene. Also B2B means back to back. 2 djs mixing together

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Liz Rutherford · May 29, 2026

As soon as James said "He does his commercials" I immediately thought of Morrie's Wigs. Don't buy wigs that come off at the wrong time!

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Sarah · May 29, 2026

I just want to say I always appreciate Jimmie’s exasperated sighs when someone does something particularly negligent or heinous. The disappointment in humanity is palpable. Also I wish there was another Patreon tier where we could listen to yall talk about/make fun of politics cuz I would be living

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Emm · May 29, 2026

Can't wait to see you tonight!!

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Maize n Blue fan · May 29, 2026

My home state!!! 😆

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Jocelyn · May 29, 2026

I love Jimmy so much. He is so authentically himself.

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Elana · June 6, 2026

Jimmie is absolutely adorbs.

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Jaimie Harris · May 29, 2026

A Small Town Murder bar is a great idea, James! Who likes true crime? Woman. The decor would pictures from all the STM episodes. People would come!

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CINESCREEN STUDIOS LLC - Producers of MASH-UP Companion Podcast to Web Series · May 29, 2026

James: I don’t know, she does what business people do. LOL

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Lauren McCarthy · May 29, 2026

my fav bar in Fort Worth is called the Down n Out 🤣🤣🤣

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Runa Fox · May 29, 2026

Guys and their childhood crushes 🤣🤣 One of my favorite stories about my husband is how he cried as a child once he realized the maid in Clue was too old for him and they could never be together in real life 🤣 Still talks about it to this day, as if the age gap were the only thing holding him back!

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Marí Charles · May 29, 2026

The ven diagram of narcissist/sociopath & childhood trauma/abuse meet in the dingy basements of bdsm & kink. Former cult ppl love Dom/submission shit. My old bff is heavily into this shit. She’d ask to get beat to fuck to “reset” her brain. She’d have bruises all over her ass & thighs… the St. Paul cross and getting beat with a shoe horn were a big hit. I heard so much shit about women with “kinks” like baby/child play 🤮 Just add “poly” to the list… nothing like cis married men who love the patriarchy using poly and kink culture to spank their SDE to control others. No autonomy in these circles.

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Randy Barrineau · May 29, 2026

Feel like the Patreon app keeps getting less usable.

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Jae Melton · May 29, 2026

Know Good are edm, not terrible 😆

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Shayne Bartlett · May 29, 2026

Ok I was shot in the head, and had swelling for weeks. But months. Fuck that guy that’s so nuts. Just crazy.

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Adam Youson · May 29, 2026

I’ve seen subtronics live, they are DJ’s, they play like techno or whatever music lol

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Kaylee Reineccius · May 29, 2026

As a raver listening to them talk about breakaway was hilarious

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Red Anderson · May 29, 2026

We need to see some Dunge Bob Leatherpants and Sir Patrick Starfish merch dropped.

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Jordyn Fahey · May 29, 2026

I work in an office job and things are going pretty well and I absolutely want to bash my head in by like 2:15 every day

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Liesl Manone · May 29, 2026

B2B marketing is a huge industry.

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Ali Kahn · May 29, 2026

Oh god- *steps slowly back into the kinky shame closet* 🫠

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Samuel Katz · May 29, 2026

This is such a good episode listening to them talk about the BDSM. My thoughts exactly, James! Hahaha. The whole look is so weird imo haha

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Kelli Jo · May 29, 2026

I haven't laughed so hard at an episode in a long time! I was laughing so hard with earbuds on that my boyfriend looked at me like I was losing it. 😂😂

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Alicia C · May 29, 2026

I moved to New Zealand recently, the land of the mullet (and skullet).

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Laura Tannehill · May 29, 2026

I lived in Detroit in 1980. We were driving on the i-75 and a guy was towing a car with a chain and no one in it. It was whipping around hitting the jersey wall. How there wasn't an accident, still amazes me.

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Marlena Tolland · May 29, 2026

I’m dying at y’all talking about the Breakaway lineup😂

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Lindsay Hiken · May 28, 2026

They're so right. I have a masters in business administration and am a "managing director" and even I don't know what I do. 😂

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Sergio Salgado · May 28, 2026

James and Jimmie for Presidents of all PTAs forever. It'd be much more efficient 😂😂

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Dorothyann · May 28, 2026

There is no one I want calling me 15 plus times a day. Haha 😆

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Bekkah Baty · May 28, 2026

Prepping for tomorrow, YAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYY!!! Thanks for allowing yourselves to come to Buffalo so I don’t have to drive to and from Philly (no offense, Philly). If yall aren’t here already, be safe. The rest of you turkeys- see whomstever tomorrow! ❤️

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M. Kultra · May 28, 2026

So Jimmie, those swinger clubs were so weird that you went to them a hundred times... Gotcha

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Stacy Nielsen · June 3, 2026

Jimmie is about informed decision making 🤣

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Cam 🛸 · May 28, 2026

Masturbob shouldn’t have tickled me as much as it did.

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Ashley Green · May 28, 2026

“Sometimes I wear a ladies glove, James. Because they fit nicer. “ 🤣 took me out.

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Bol Bol · May 28, 2026

If I’m able to contribute to jimmy strip club ventures. Then god damn that’s money well spent.

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Scott Henderson · May 28, 2026

Shoutouts! I’m in Eagle Mountain, Utah too.

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Meghan Mast · May 28, 2026

"Giving her money and having a corona." One of my favorite Jimmie quotes

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Meghan Mast · May 28, 2026

I think its more than 1 out 100...

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Nikki Young · May 28, 2026

What’s wrong with jean shorts? 🫣

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Teamrocket · May 28, 2026

I used to go on a kink website and they would meet at Perkins for friendly get together to talk about.. idk I never went. Lol

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Jacqueline Rose · May 28, 2026

I learned what BDSM was when I was 12/13 and I asked my mom what Rihanna’s 2010 song S&M meant 🫥

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Snarky Moomin · May 28, 2026

I think the judge understood the psychology of DV well enough- they asked the question to make sure that the jury did

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Mike McNamer · May 28, 2026

I fell off the roof of my shed and I had deep bruising that you could, faintly, see months later.

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Michele S · May 28, 2026

You don’t get paid to be on a board of directors. It was monthly meetings, usually at a nice restaurant. On one board we voted on which 501(c)3 orgs to give money to in the community. It was a lot of ass kissing, but the job had a ton of perks.

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Alexis Smith · May 28, 2026

Did Jimmie say bacon raspberry cookies? 🤣

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Andrea Braun · May 28, 2026

Please look at a Netflix Documentary. "DON'T F**K with Cats" It is pretty messed up. ( I can/could say more vulgar words)

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Jacob Price · May 28, 2026

As a raver im absolutely dying to breakaway music festival

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Steve Porter · May 28, 2026

Talking about jorts and mullets. Why do you care what someone else wears or how they style their hair? That belongs on “Your Stupid Opinions”

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Meredith Bracken · May 28, 2026

YOOOOO Grosse Pointe represent! That first town review is exactly why my husband and I are so much happier living rural. These folks are so rich, entitled, and racist, they’d rather drive 40 minutes to Troy for dinner than the 15 minutes it takes to get to world class restaurants in Detroit. I had neighbors call the cops on my husband for smoking a joint on our property. The snootiness of the Grosse Pointe communities is genuinely sickening. Also, my aunt worked for Bob when she was a senior in high school and he was newly engaged to Jane. He was always a creepy loser.

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rebecca Deardorff · May 28, 2026

*I love snacks* Same But also, I’ve always wondered what happens once they sit down at that desk it’s gonna be a lot of just jerking off, right? Crocs no socks, in the rain PNW; WTF!?

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Walter Daniels · May 28, 2026

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Walter Daniels · May 28, 2026

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Walter Daniels · May 28, 2026

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Walter Daniels · May 28, 2026

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Tiffanaih Zeiss · May 28, 2026

Pulled a Pierce Hawthrone in the courtroom

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Three rats in a trench coat · May 28, 2026

I wear bigger gloves than Jimmie? I wear a size 5 ring, you guys. What 😂

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Elana · June 6, 2026

😂

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Mary · May 28, 2026

Mediocre white man, can’t get it up.

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MJ O'keeffe · May 28, 2026

And ya know what they say about men with big hands....

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Snarky Moomin · May 28, 2026

They wear big gloves😉

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Heather · May 28, 2026

A relative bought into Grosse Pointe when real estate was dirt cheap. We were teasing them for being hoity toity now. 😂

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NonniX2 · May 28, 2026

I'll never admit how I know but I will tell you LEO and First Responders make up a HIGH population of the BDSM and Swinging Lifestyle.

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OMAR GOBBY · May 28, 2026

Perfect Name for James and Jimmie's bar: Shut Up and Give Me Bourbon

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Kramer and his Cougar MILF · May 28, 2026

I love that The Boys mentioned the show this weekend AND the Washington Township episode because I'm attending the show in Royal Oak and the last show I attended was in Grand Rapids (at which The Boys presented the Washington Township case)! Worlds collide, man 🫨🤩 This weekend's gonna be amazing!!

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Marí Charles · May 28, 2026

Breakaway 😂 it comes to Grand Rapids too… mostly EDM/House DJ’s

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ToulouseStarTrek · May 28, 2026

Great lineup for that festival if you’re into EDM. Dr. Fresch is great and sick live! Easy crossover listening 🎧

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Luke Siemon · May 28, 2026

Hearing yall talk about breakaway has me cackling 😂😂😂😂😂

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Misty McLaughlin · May 28, 2026

I'm dead over the business administration convo in the beginning 🤣🤣

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OMAR GOBBY · May 28, 2026

Who else was expecting to hear Ludacris as the last artist on that bill?

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Jo A Gardner · May 28, 2026

There is a swingers club in the middle of a junk yard in Port Deposit Md. I don’t think it could get any worse than this. Would not go anywhere near it.

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CINESCREEN STUDIOS LLC - Producers of MASH-UP Companion Podcast to Web Series · May 29, 2026

A junk yard? Wow. I’ve always wondered how much do film and tv swinger clubs resemble real life authentic swinger clubs.

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Brittany Giner · May 28, 2026

Masterbobbing is the most hilarious thing to hear 😂

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Katy · May 29, 2026

I laughed out loud every time😂

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Alfonso Hughes · May 28, 2026

Is that poll not up yet, or am I just that much of a turkey?

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Felix Mallott · May 28, 2026

I'm dying laughing at the bit about corporate/exec work. I work in middle management for a large corporation and it's a whole lot of nothing during the day and I'm very bored. But the alternative is that things are breaking bad and they need me and then I have to actually do stuff and not be lazy. I imagine the execs are doing even more nothing than me 😅

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J.P. Trent · May 30, 2026

Can relate. And I'm honestly thrilled to be paid to do that. 😂

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EnrichHardInTheSlightest · May 28, 2026

FRECH 😂😂😂

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Emma Winbigler · May 28, 2026

holy shit! i live in saint clair shores right next to grosse pointe!!

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Madelyn Bryant · May 28, 2026

Never heard of any of those musical acts. I’m 31 lol

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Lex Watkins · May 28, 2026

The way they talk about business just reminds me of Mac and Charlie going “that’s money talk!”

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ya boi · May 28, 2026

Idk if its just me but there's a bit of a weird echo on Jimmie's mic?

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Renee · May 28, 2026

Masterbobbing yuck

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Rayanne T. · May 28, 2026

EDM 🤧 this lineup is insane

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Bunny · May 28, 2026

I have a degree in BA, and I don't know what its for. 🤣 I am in Safety so 🤷🏼‍♀️

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house stewford · May 28, 2026

JORTS FOREVER

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M. Kultra · May 28, 2026

Joint account, which one of you cheated?

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Jade Mackenrodt · May 28, 2026

The festival is an EDM festival, most of those artists are a pretty big deal.

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Teamrocket · May 28, 2026

You must be way more into it than me. I've only heard of subtronics and grabitz.. lol

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Frank Guido · May 28, 2026

Years ago, i was surprised Jimmy pronounced my name ( GUIDO ) Correctly. But if he can get James name right. My Italian name should be easy. Now when I donate again, can Jimmy please mess it up like most of America does? Thanks you two are the best.

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Samuel Katz · May 28, 2026

“Well hello there, Murph” hahhahaha

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Jacob Hanson · May 28, 2026

2 friends is a dj group

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Molly Horan · May 28, 2026

My Lions club always donated to Turning Point in Mt Clemens.

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It Ain't Easy Being Eldritch · May 30, 2026

Yikes..... What an unfortunate name....

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Maria Cziao · May 28, 2026

The Patreon was saying “new episodes every Thursday”, so I thought we were losing Wednesday and Fridays,,and had a complete meltdown over that. Phew! Here you are! Love you guys. So much.

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erin williams · May 28, 2026

Jimmy’s beard looks amazing

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Daniel Sandomenico · May 28, 2026

I get the sense that Jimmie MAY, in my humble opinion, be into some kinkier shit, than he’s willing to divulge ;) ⛓️ 👢🥜

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Andreas · June 2, 2026

You think?????

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Molly Horan · May 28, 2026

Oooh, and btw, the only person i knew into BDSM in the SE area of Michigan did 5 years in prison....hmm! Lol

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Red Hot Chili Puppers · May 28, 2026

Gah! Jimmie’s wearing a RHCP shirt! My two favorite things collide in a beautiful harmony, and an angel gets its wings. Bravo Jimmie!

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Brandy Dallas · May 28, 2026

Helluva intro James gaaah lol

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Molly Horan · May 28, 2026

I lived near there (not THERE no one normal can afford a place in GPP) when this crap happened and I read the book. Please don't beat me up but GPP is no where near what a small town is. Neither is Canton or Washington. 🤨

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Bri · May 28, 2026

Lived in st clair shores for years and can confirm.

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SHAKEandBAKE907 · May 28, 2026

Lmfao, the artists in the music festival are EDM. You know, rave shit. Yall are killing me 😂☠️. Love you guys hahaha.

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Tiffany Paulsen · May 29, 2026

I knew as soon as they said breakaway in Michigan that this was gonna be fun! 🤣 I'm going to force fields in a week in WI and I'll be 40 in 2 months... GIVE ME ALL THE EDM!!!

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Tegwen Feldbush · May 28, 2026

Breakaway music festivals happen all across the country!!! Not my genre but I’ve seen it pop up in a couple different states I’ve lived in. It is usually a lot of DJs, electronic pop, & EDM so you’re reading some HUGE names in a VERY Specific Genre/ Community. A Gen Z listener to tell you you’re not THAT out of touch (yet!)

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Souless Jo · May 28, 2026

Came to say this, though I'm an elder millennial who happens to like EDM

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Elisabeth Reid · May 28, 2026

Sounds familiar, think it was on Dateline.

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Elisabeth Reid · May 28, 2026

OMG How could I forget, Bob!

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Veronika Zhukova · May 28, 2026

I must summon enough bravery to listen to this one because the Puppet Master was the movie I saw when I was 4 and still have that creepy feeling that horn is coming from under the bed 🫣I might need a time out 🥺

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Bri · May 28, 2026

Girl yes! That movie FUCKED me up for years!

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Laurel Fay · May 28, 2026

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYY!

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Zazzua · May 29, 2026

Yay indeed Laurel. Yay indeed!