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What is the rum they're referencing? Not the Havana Club. The other one.
Castro assassinated JFK by refusing to let Oswald into Cuba, thus making him the perfectly motivated assassin.
Just wanted to pop in like a year later and say that "I just flew in from Love Field and boy is the back of my head tired" is one of my all-time favorite Alice jokes
"Mercy for the Dulles Brothers"... is that a Mountain Goats reference, Alice?
all of you are ignoring the obvious truth. THE SECOND PLANE SHOT JFK FROM THE GRASSY KNOLL
Was literally just wondering if there was a good movie I could watch about the cuban revolution tysm
what's your favorite Lynard Skynard album? for the southerners
Cosgrove: "Hey Freakazoid, wanna go punchout Lee Harvey Oswald?" Freakazoid: "Do I? Yes! Yes!" Lesson: Cosgrove knows how to get consent, be like Cosgrove.
Can confirm, it's a bad idea to talk about the USSR to Marines.
jack francis koolio
John F. Katholicism
gotta make update to this one regarding the new CIA doc dump. OPwald confirmed.
Just saw Roz speaking on the Bad Faith podcast. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyaCBwrdY1A Nice to see some dude on a (good) podcast that's usually populated by Ivy Leaguers
"good" yeah okay
the kennedys all seem to be alergic to living
Would love a JFK Jr. episode, especially since that involves ~planes.
ooh, fireworks factory would be good.
By the way: Kennedys father was the US ambassador in London. He apparently had ambitions to become US president but his abhorrent lobbying for „making a deal with Hitler“ (like Stalin did when they divided Poland and with that started WW2) cut that short. Good effing riddance..
Hope you‘re recovering and/or enjoying your off-time. There‘s a long PBS (?) documentary out there that‘s pretty conclusive. I wonder what‘s next, a neat refinery disaster or fireworks manufacturing facility would be a change.
John Hinckley's mom did it. Hint: she even named her son after his deadbeat president dad.
Also the book Havana Nocturne is a great condensation of the vibe in Cuba right before the Revolution, plus the extent of American mafia connections there.
When you guys debunking MKUltra?
South Carolina barbecue is mustard, Best Carolina is either tomato or vinegar depending on which side of the state you’re on.
btw the two men convicted for assassinating Malcom X were recently exonerated
Guy who has only researched the Georgi Markov assassination learning about Umbrella Guy: getting a lot of Georgi Markov vibes from this
Hey there, first time long time from Chicago. Thank you for shouting out Da Merch. It does rule.
To Justin's question there are like three floors that are still show rooms, one or two of which are only for people with private designers or getting custom pieces. The rest is mostly office space as far as I know.
There is no contemporary source for Gavrilo Princip eating a sandwich, it is a widely circulated myth with its earliest known mentions being in 2001 and 2003. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/gavrilo-princips-sandwich-79480741/
Still prefer the TrueAnnon coverage of the JFK assassination
My theory of US presidential assassinations is that there is one for each quadrant of the Political Compass (Czolgosz lib-left, Oswald auth-left, Booth auth-right, and Guiteau lib-right just because he doesn't fit anywhere else). If, gods forbid, there's ever another, I may revise this rubric.
I lost my shit at “making the POTUS suddenly very neurodivergent”. I had to pause for about 20 minutes
The Dictabelt was recording the radio traffic on the police radio. Some motorcycle cop's microphone was stuck "open", so it recorded everything that came through.
As a person with family in the Dallas area, can confirm "Nut Country."
Interestingly, a person from my home town was on the Warren Commission.
I wrote a senior thesis about the eroticization of JFK's dead body.
I just saw an autopsy photo on Wikipedia and I feel like I understand this
Guys… You are able to make podcast teasers. Make a full podcast!!
What all “the CIA/Deep State/Mob killed JFK” conspiracy theorists miss is the fact that Kennedy was an easily blackmailed President, both in terms of his comically scandalous sex life and his really shitty physical health. Indeed, the Secret Service were always terrified that JFK would be killed or compromised during one of his innumerable one-night stands. And finally Kennedy was in a vulnerable position electorally for 1964, specifically in the Southern states which hadn’t yet gone Republican but were already full of angry Dixiecrats who had never accepted Kennedy and were even more furious after he gave a televised White House address in June 1963 in support of a strong federal civil rights law—which is what eventually became the Civil Rights Act of 1964, signed into law by LBJ. Also, if JFK wanted to undermine the CIA and other NatSec agencies, it’s not like he (or his brother) had clean hands on any of the coups and assassination plots against foreign leaders—and the CIA surely knew that. So why go to the trouble of committing high treason against the US itself with all that in mind (as opposed to assassinating or trying to assassinate the leaders of countries in the developing world, ie scary foreign brown people who may or may not be under a Communist government, but in any case would cause much less domestic political backlash than killing the fucking US President). It doesn’t make any sense and sorry, I’m gonna need better evidence of a conspiracy than “this seems sus” or “what about Jack Ruby.”
Maybe you should actually do some research. No one who believes that there was a broader scheme by the deep state to kill JFK thinks so solely because it feels "off" or "sus". Like what about the fact that Oswald was a CIA asset? That he palled around with Jack Ruby, another CIA asset who did gun runs into cuba? Or that he was allowed to return from Soviet Russia after renouncing his citizenship without any trouble, with his russian-born wife? Read "JFK and the Unspeakable" or listen to True Anon's JFK episode. Or you can listen to the JFK episode of "Death is Just Around the Corner" by Mike Judge. It might be on his Patreon though, it used to be available for free. Oliver Stone did a documentary you can watch: "JFK Revisited". I trust these guys (and gal) to analyze engineering disasters, but I don't trust their research on this.
Nobody ever suspects Jackie, but if my husband was off partying and banging his mistress on his buddy's yacht in the Mediterranean when I had a stillbirth and the only reason he came home was because his friend told him it would wreck his chances at winning the election I would spend several years planning and executing an over-elaborate way of murking his ass.
Jackie absolutely did it, yes
The best part about having a brit on this podcast is that it let's me say "emphasis on the 'die' part" when Alice calls the Kennedys a political dynasty.
emphasis on nasty
Joe Kennedy Jr was a *naval* officer, not a USAAF officer his service records are available here https://catalog.archives.gov/id/74871660
thanks. important not to steal US Army valor on Joe Kennedy Jr’s behalf.
how fucking dare you call it that liam. dca or national are the only acceptable names for that airport
deserved suspicion of Brookline, Mass on this week's WTYP
aye alice! the B25 is the mitchell, liberator is the 24. L
I love the Phillies updates throughout the ep
nah I believe there was a second and a third and a fourth and a fifth shooter, being from the mob, secret service, ussr and the cia respectively positioned in various positions and after oswald took the first shot they both tried to shoot oswald for stealing the kill independently of each other similar to how in italian politics there are always every single conspiracy theory going off at once
That's my favorite Onion headline: Kennedy slain by CIA, Mafia, Castro, Teamsters, Freemasons - President shot 129 times from 43 different angles.
hey would someone be able to share the link of the bonus episodes playlist? wanna go back and watch some of the old ones
Come on - we all know Kissinger did it
wow I didn't know Oswald did it because he was an Incel
I can't believe you guys are laughing at this. Presidents heads only explode when they're VERY distressed
you're laughing. the president's head exploded and you're laughing. Do you think this is funny?
Lee Harvey Oswald is a socialist hero and its counterrevolutionary to suggest otherwise :P
right? typical leftist logic to look at structures and institutions until they forget about individuals having agency [/s]
Oswald was one of several people involved in the plot to kill Kennedy.
ok cia sure he was
I think they did a good job of arguing that it was probably oswald who pulled the trigger, but I see no reason why a faction in the cia, cuban exiles and the mob couldn’t have put Oswald up to it and then killed him and Jack Ruby. The house select committee on assassination later would conclude that it was entirely possible oswald didnt work alone.
There are a bunch of arguments against that, not least of which is that if you were going to put someone up to assassinating the President, you'd want someone who was reliable.
Joseph P Kennedy was a stock broker in the 20s, which is where the real family money came from. It's often been said he was made the first head of the SEC because he knew every possible stock scam and swindle, as he's pulled them all on his way up.
For a moment I forgot who jfk is and read the title as jesus fucking krist
Jesus Christ, it’s JFK
George Hickey did it by accident.
Not a single mention of the real killer; Bernard Sanders
I know right smh
That's not muzzle flash. That's a vape cloud.
GO PHILS!
His head just did that.
A second brisket has hit the president
Aw, I'm disabled. Don't mock my low spoons, that sucks. :( Come on, y'all.
“Do not look up his foreign policy.” Good advice regarding LBJ. Also, thanks for recommending “The Box”, interesting book.
lets fucking gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Too bad JFK was killed, oh well at least we still had his brother…oh no oh fuck oh no. Well, at least their youngest brother was still arou—what? Ted did WHAT at Chappaquidik?! Goddammit! Ok well at least we still have JFK’s son…oh for fuck’s sake Next thing you’re going to tell me that RFK Jr. is an anti-vaccine conspiracy theorist and that a bunch of Donald Trump supporters think that JFK Jr. and his father are still alive and are on their side!
have you ever seen the show "For All Mankind"? Among the points in its alternate-history timeline is that some space-race-related crisis forces Ted Kennedy to cancel plans at Chappaquiddick, so when he decides to run against Nixon in 1972 he doesn't have that scandal on him and wins the presidency (unfortunately though, even in that show's alternate history we still get Reagan)
Before discovering this podcast great interest was had watching Air Crash Investigators. Great series on the things that can go wrong when flying machines cease to fly.
All good except that bull$hit y’all said about Dallas, and it needs “Jack Ruby” by Camper Van Beethoven as the outro tune.
Half the episode i was expecting Liam to explode with joy at the Phillies win.
fuck yeah come to minneapolis
Bullet Proof Glass is a composite material made of layers of poly-carbonate (the stuff they make safety glasses out of) & special glass. Ideally, it needs to be several inches thick to resist rifle caliber rounds, and that's with modern materials. Also given that GE only started producing it in the late 50's, early 60's, & it was brown, it's unlikely that this application was possible. Just my 2 cents with a quick googling as a manufacturing engineer.
I just wanna say fuck daylight savings time.
same.
"He understands my shit" said the short and the tall.
..I don't think I can come up with anyone that more perfectly fits the "I genuinely can't tell whether he is cute or not" than Oswald.
I agree with Bonar Menninger's theory ("Mortal Error"). It's easier to make a mistake than it is to pull off a conspiracy.
what about making a mistake that pulls off a different, unrelated conspiracy
Sadly the sandwich thing is a myth even though its funny.
But but but chapo told me it was George h w bush etc
Chapo says a lot of things, baby.
I think it was Doris Kearns Goodwin who got a Amphicar ride with LBJ and refused to be scared assuming that the Secret Service wouldn't let the president go driving in a car with questionable brakes and LBJ got really annoyed at her.
jesus fucking khrist
This episode traumatized my stuffed toy alpaca
Alice was in error about Oswald being from New York. He lived there for a bit. Primarily he live in Texas and New Orleans.
right, if memory serves he lived in Brooklyn as a podcaster.
Is there an audio only feed of this. I am incapable of watching YouTube for longer than a few minutes
Throw it into tuberipper, do what you will with the audio from there.
Damn you heard about this JFK dude? Pretty crazy
Well scares your problem???? Please?
If JFK had been in a train this would not have happened.
I'm on Team Alice and Liam.
Jaaaay-aaaaaay fkaaaay
Rules for life: 1. Never get involved in a land war in Asia 2. Never go head-to-head with a Sicilian when death is on the line 3. Never ask a Bush what Poppy was doing in Dallas on November 22, 1963
Is this about the airport?
No its about the guy named after the airport.
YAY LIAM
THE LINK LIVES!!!!!!!
YAY LIAM
"it's two bucks ya know, you get what you pay for" *link doesn't exist* lol
Please nobody spoil it for me, I really want to get into this without knowing whether the young liberal president is going to reform the American industrial-military complex for the benefit of the whole world in the end.
Was the link shot?
The feds got 'em
ROLL RED OCTOBER FUCK THE ASTROS
the feds hid the episode in an uzbek bunker deep under the earth
update: liam/roz/alice/guest has emerged from the bunker
I want to see head go SQUISHLHHHH
The CIA had to take down this video because the gang unveiled the real JFK assassin.
MAKE GO!
Goddammit they’ve fucked this up as badly as the Phillies are fucking up the first inning of the second game of the World Series
How so? Don’t tell me they say Oswald acted alone
The video got taken out by the deepstate
F in the chat for that broken link
Astros are coming for you Liam
Well there’s your problem, a podcast about engineering disasters, which is within itself an engineering disaster. With slides
I'm stuck at Six Flags, freezing my ass off, and extremely mad that I forgot my headphones
Serves you right for going to Six Flags
I NEED IT
When even the YouTube video is at an *undisclosed location*
the broken link is just a reference to JFK's skull
the second link is hidden on the grassy knoll
the podcast which edges you 👀
Hillary Clinton shot JFK.
Everyone knows that it's Bernie sanders who shot him
LET ME INNN
you'll fix it, complaining won't help, thanks for the pod folks
Thank GOD I swear I’ve been having withdrawals
This podcast truly is an engineering disaster
Link currently not functioning, much like JFK himself
WAP
WPA2
link no work :/
let me in, let me innnnnnn
The cruelty
The video is private
it’s forbidden knowledge