AMA #1!
Dear Debunkmates,
Welcome to our first-ever bonus room! We hope you like it here. Mike and I recorded this episode in the same time and place we usually do—Saturday morning, with me in my closet in Portland and him in his apartment in Seattle—and I think recording it made me realize how much work we put into the show. It was weird to talk about something without consulting a giant compendium of notes. We got to talk about our process, ramble about some of our favorite movies and answer some great questions you had for us, although there were a ton we had to save for another episode.
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This was a fun one—maybe because it's our first and so far our only episode where it was friendship all along.
Excelsior!
Sarah & Mike
Comments (84)
Wild that you both love The Fall. It’s one of my favorites and so few people have seen it
Just subscribing and would love Spotify integration 😭 this app doesn't auto play the next episode which is sooo annoying
I know this is an old pod, but are they talking about "The Fall" (2006) or a different one?
I assume that one
Listening to this again and think we need a You Are Good episode with Mike and A Simple Plan
Or The Fall!
Re-listened to this episode today and I'm cackling at Sarah's "Titanic has been topical for years and it continues to be topical and it's only going to get more topical!" Truer words never spoken 🤣
just came back to this one…it’s a shame that the 12 episode AIDS series never happened. I hope one of you (or both of you!) has the opportunity to explore it in that kind of format eventually.
The Fall is also one of my favorite movies 😭 I love everything about that movie, the costumes, the story, the characters, everything!
I am dying to watch The Fall but which one were you referencing? There appear to be several!
Guessing it's this one, based on timeline and the topic of storytelling: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0460791/ it's SO GOOD
Titanic deep dive on You Are Good, Sarah?
Just watched 'Magnolia' because you guys referenced the movie in the top 3. man oh man
Coming to this a solid few months late, but I really enjoyed this - especially the part about fan fiction. I was heavily into the Harry Potter fan fiction world as a teenager, for similar reasons to those discussed here. It’s really nice to hear others talking about their experiences in those communities because I feel like (for me at least) and it was never talked about in real life at the time. There are probably a lot more of us than I originally thought!
I’m just now listening to this, but I’m so glad you mentioned the Pruitt-Igoe Myth! It’s such a formative part of St. Louis history (and urban living outside of St. Louis) and so few people know about it!
How did I not know about this documentary about Pruitt Igoe?! I did a whole project in college about the myth that the 'tower in the park' was bad design. 2007, probably - ahead of my time!
Sarah and Mike, I won a radio contest when I was 13 for a New Year’s Eve party at an arcade at our shopping mall in Columbus, Ohio. It included a free games pass and 4 free drinks (all the Root Beer, booya!). They told me I had won and didn’t ask my age. When I asked ‘I’m 13, but you guys just said it’s 21+. Am I still allowed to go?’ He put me on hold and a few moments later told me yes, but they couldn’t put my reaction on the air. I ended up taking my 11 year old brother with me and my parents decided to just pick us up at 1am. It was 2010, going into 2011!
Sarah, I'm sure you're aware, but incase you're not, some of the Newsies boys made a film while on the set and bored. It doesn't hold up great but it's available on YouTube and worth a watch for a big time Newsies fan :D It's called Blood Drips Heavily on Newsies Square and it's pretty much just Don Knotts murdering cast members ;)
Oh my gosh please have a whole episode on Disney movie characters! Love your perspective on Ursula!
Just played this to my titanic obsessed (but also scarily conservative) 14 year old daughter to try and convince her that it’s an anti capitalist love story - she seemed to take some of it in 👍🏻
This was so lovely to listen to. I deeply appreciate the way you listen to one another. It feels so loving and understanding. I especially loved Sarah calling Ursula a loan shark, and Michael saying, "Oh, god, yes" about not wanting A League of Their Own to end.
I’m pretty sure the Titanic move scarred me for life and no one around me seemed to understand... I still start to cry whenever I try and tell people about the scene with the mom and her children in the lower decks and I’m so happy to know there are others that feel the same!!
I'd love an episode on 'you're wrong about Disney villains' comparing Disneys versions to the historical fairytale characters.
Sarah's obsession with Newsies reminds me of my obsession with Yuri on Ice. I definitely recommend it, it involves figure skating and is great for the fan fiction similar to Newsies.
Sarah explaining fanfiction to Mike has just totally made my week! Fic is how I got into writing, and I love stories like this. And it's great to hear someone learning about this for the first time. Loving your podcast, guys!
I will be using "former future attorney" as a phrase from now on. Sarah, you just have such a way with words. Mike, you actually gave me an epiphany when you described why you love the movie A Simple Plan; I have a different background from you but also valued friendship deeply from a young age, above family-for-sake-of-family for similar reasons you named. Ahh, not only do I learn more about the world when I listen to YWA but also more about myself. Seriously, thank you so much for creating a fabulous podcast.
When Mike was describing the plot for A Simple Plan I thought he was talking about Shallow Grave as it is the exact same premise but set in Edinburgh. Danny Boyle's and Ewan McGregor's first film.
ugh so true about 'titanic' being a metaphor for capitalism
Take a listen to Reply All (another podcast) episode about Q Anons origin story (its quite something), they do a lot of research as well! Its one of the latest "Country of liars” Ps: Thank you so much for all you do
I'm so happy to get this extra feed! Now the part that usually makes people mad: A pedantic note on cows; they're not kept in a state of artificial lactation, they are repeatedly impregnated and their babies get taken away (and usually sold as veal) so that humans can take the milk and sell it. Then they are killed for meat when their bodies give out from being forced to endure pregnancy and birth over and over. Would you guys ever consider doing a "you're wrong about veganism" episode? So many people think it's about trashing meat eaters for the fun of it, when really it's a movement about stopping animal abuse and the destruction of the earth. Love you guys!
I don’t think Vegans hate meat eaters but I do think that a lot of vegans look down on meat eaters and believe themselves to be more ethical. And while that may be the case sometimes, it’s not always. Meat eaters have choices in how ethically they’d like their meat and animals products raised just like vegans have choices in how ethically farmed their food is. Lots of vegetable farming is destroying the planet and society with morally bankrupt employment policies and farming practices that cause widespread harm to especially our soil with the overuse of pesticides, tilling, and fertilizers. And on the meat producing side their is factory farming, rampant antibiotic use, and destruction of land thru ethically corrupt grazing practices. But their is hope for vegans and meat eaters and everything in between. Using better farming and grazing techniques can greatly improve our soils thus improving our planet as a whole. And improving working conditions to include a living wage, full benefits, healthcare, 401ks and profit sharing would improve the lives of our farm workers. It’s not as simple an answer as “eat this stuff instead of that other stuff”. It’s really about how the stuff we consume is planted, harvested, produced, raised, and fed.
what mike said about watching gay movies and feeling like you’re with gay people,,, that if the L word for me wow
Love the podcast! Mike are you able to share the podcasts you are listening to on QAnon? Also I’ve often wondered why everyone hates Anne Hathaway? Thanks for your brilliant work and cannot wait for my aww sweetie no t shirt to arrive!
Hello! Can’t wait to listen tomorrow when I’m ignoring my kids. Would love to hear your thoughts on Larries/Kaylors and other tumblr/internet ships between two slebs. Where do they come from? How do they become so... intense? Are they based in reality? IS TAYLOR SWIFT REALLY DATING KARLIE KLOSS?????? Have an awesome one debunkmates.
Thank you, so interesting to hear how you work! And for all disco lovers The Force by Nancy Nova (1981) is something that you need in your life. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq-AC1LZ7hY
Oh, and "Rock the Boat" (1974, Hues Corporation) is another song that would make Mike cry that was considered by some to be the first #1 disco hit song.
Dancing Queen by ABBA.
I am gob-smacked by how you two manage to get through so much primary source material for each episode! This is the social studies class I wish I'd had in high school!
New favorite podcast, love everything about it, thank you so much for being you and doing what you do! One small quibble, because I feel like being "that guy" - you mentioned Robert Plant playing guitar, and that's not really what he does. Thank you for enriching my life, and I'm working backwards through as many episodes as my ears can handle!
Regarding the disco episode (which I used to detox from the child trafficking episode 😬): has anyone else noticed the influence of disco in modern music? Doja Cat “Say So” starts off with a retro sound and catchy beat, goes right into the chorus, makes me want to skate!
I love Sarah and Mike! Thank you for making my NYC subway commute bearable. Relevant NYTimes article today: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/12/technology/qanon-save-the-children-trafficking.html
Omg this was so fun!
Oh Emma Stewart I totally feel like I’m best friends with Sarah & Mike! I feel like I could go out to dinner with them & the conversation would be warm, intelligent, fascinating, fun, & uproariously funny from the get-go! There would be no awkward pauses, no lulls, & we would suddenly look up, see that it somehow got to be midnight already (!!), & agree that we could go on talking forever! LOL!
Sarah, you brought up A League of Their Own and I saw this morning that an Amazon series is in the works: https://deadline.com/2020/08/a-league-of-their-own-reboot-series-order-amazon-1203006188/
Oh good!!!
Sarah, my love for you increased ten fold upon hearing that you are a fan-fiction nerd. I know it's a byproduct of podcasts that you feel like you're friends with the hosts because of the conversational nature of the format, and that has only increased now. Sorry. Off to write fan-fiction about you both because I want to live in your world.
Thanks for posting this in Patreon. I only found out about QAnon today, after hearing something on a weeks-old episode of Wait! Wait! Don't Tell Me!, about how Twitter shut down a lot of QAnon stuff. But I struggled to Google it, because Wait! Wait! pronounced it in a way that sounded like "cannon." Wow. Talk about fan fiction. QAnon sounds like fan fiction created by people whose creativity and suspicions are not burdened by science or Occam's Razor. I'm more concerned about the other article, from ... Healthline (?), that reported research that finds 25% of respondents believe conspiracy theories about COVID-19. I'm happy to support your efforts to set records straight, simply by actually reading the public record.
Your whole section on Ursula (the Sea Witch) spoke to my heart.
I’m so happy! The titanic bit blew my mind.
NEWSIES FOREVER. Tell us what your ff.net username was, Sarah!! I probably read your stories at some point 😂
what I can't wait for in the HIV series is the Gaetan Dugas episode.
There was a great documentary about Gaetan Dugas which came out last year named "Killing Patient Zero"
I love how Mike brings back the word “skank” from 1998 here. Such an underused monicker.
Yep! Loved his revival of “skank!!”
Great episode! Loved the Ursula digression! Sarah just introduced it like you were talking about Ursula all along. 🤣 It was so great to hear about your processes and to just hang out with my new "friends" Mike and Sarah. Like Mike, I didn't get fan fiction, I can appreciate it now. Thanks Sarah. I can't wait for the next episode.
I agree! My brain just oh-so-willingly followed Sarah to her Ursula reference because OF COURSE that’s the Ursula she was referencing! Who else could it possibly be??
Oooof. Yeah, these "the lack of evidence IS the evidence" people are like the wasps that lay their eggs in other insects and the larvae kill the host from the inside out. I hate it.
This was great! Behind the scenes...
Already appreciate the work you put into this podcast and now I appreciate it even more. Can't wait for the next AMA.
Oh good, I thought I was the only person who was really messed up when watching The Fall, but as it turns out there are others.
What are the QAnon podcasts you are listening to?
QAnon Anonymous! Their first episode has a really useful history and primer
CRIED IN THE THEATER DURING "THE FALL" SQUAD RISE UP
Seriously, though, I love listening to you guys. You could probably take turns reading the phone book, and I would listen. Love your voices. Add that to your fascinating content, and this is easily my favorite podcast.
I agree!!
First question for next AMA: Who is Jenny?
Loved the episode. Basically love every episode!
This is great!
You blew mind about the two audio files! I can barrrely wrap my mind around that! Love you both! Congratulations on your hard work paying off!
ah, this came through at the perfect time. can’t wait to listen. thank you! ♥️
Can't wait to listen, thank you! 😊
Love it, love it, love it! I love the casual, low edit feel of this. It's an outdoor, socially distract chat walk with good friends vibe. We debunkmates will gratefully consume the table scraps of the show. There's actually a balance here of less polish making the experience a little better. I've done 3 episodes (~2h) of my own heavily edited podcast. I *know* how much work this is. More than anything I can hear the joy you have in making the show. Thank you for YWA!
Mike, I LOVE that you love the Pruitt Igoe myth as much as I do! (I used to regularly watch it alone on Friday nights during a particularly lonely time in architecture school) and think it would be a great episode topic! (You’re Wrong about public housing might overlap with your homelessness episode some, but there are so many fascinating policy failures of the “urban renewal” era, the consequences of which we’re still living with!)
Finally an episode with a happy ending!! Lol. Great episode as always 😊
Thank you! I can't wait to listen!
I don't want to install the Patreon app to access the feed in Apple Podcasts - can anyone explain if/how I can access my RSS link from the web version? Edit: for newbs like me, you can find it here https://www.patreon.com/yourewrongabout/membership
I think these are the instructions for getting the link from the regular website https://support.patreon.com/hc/en-us/articles/360041347732--How-to-use-your-custom-audio-RSS-link#h_d08c5bc8-3540-4532-9664-81fbcb5d245b
Ah so excited!
Yay! I can’t wait to listen to this on the way home.
Any chance I can get the old theme tune as a ring tone? Happy to pay!
I’d pay for that! I miss the old tune!
The logo for the Patreon RSS feed is 🤩
@c3168014 Everyone gets a custom link. You should delete and not share yours because it's unfair to Sarah and Mike if someone copies it then stops paying the patreon.
Thank you! 😘😘