【What happened to me over the past few months】
Hello, Caro here.
Thank you all so much for your well wishes. I've now settled into the new home.
Many of you may have noticed that I've been completely inactive on social media for the past few months.
I'll now start to explain why, and tell you what happened during those months.
In early January, because some artists were attacked for drawing female characters by haters, I spoke up.
I mentioned on my country's social media platform that ‘Although Tavern of Spear is a game featuring only M/M content, most of the characters are actually bisexual.’ And then these haters just exploded, haha.
Then, a girl asked in my comments, 'Does this mean female players can also start to be recognized as valid players of TOS?' I replied, 'Sure. Although I won't add BG content to the game because of this, I welcome players of any gender or sexual orientation to play TOS.' And that's when the haters absolutely lost their minds.
They started calling me a ‘bisexual mutt,’ then began attacking the female players, and attempted to pressure me into making a statement to distance myself from them.
Even though I kept explaining, there were just too many of them. They kept editing screenshots of my words to twist what I originally meant, and constantly spread rumors to draw in more people who didn't know the truth to attack me.
After they started threatening to report me to the government here to have me thrown in jail, I had no choice but to go silent til now.
And they are still attacking me now: Even though I posted a few days ago that I've been married to my husband for two years, they started spreading new rumors, confidently insisting that in the future I will cheat on my marriage with women.
As now that I can finally speak up again, I want to reiterate my stance:
【Although Tavern of Spear will only contain M/M content, players of all genders and sexual orientations are always welcome to play and create fan works. I maintain a zero-tolerance policy toward all forms of gender discrimination, sexual orientation discrimination, and exclusionary behavior.】
Since I've been under constant attack for nearly three months now, I don't plan to give these haters the right to argue any further—at least not in this post.I've already blocked quite a few people before (when they were attacking other artists on Twitter), but I'm sure they'll still show up in the comments.So I'll immediately block and hide their replies if they appear.
Thank you so much for reading, and thank you for your support for me and Tavern of Spear.
Comments (27)
I cant believe that people would behave that way... I mean, I can, but that's sad
I'm so sorry this happened to you. I usually stay off of social media or the comment section. A lot of miserable people out hang out there. I'm glad you are back! I've missed your content! Your game is so fun regardless of anyone's gender or sexual orientation! I'm happy to have your support! You have mine!
omg it is just a game, although i totally love the m/m portion and dislike the female portion. it doesnt give people the right for abuse. just a suggestion: Maybe you can help add options to make the NPC to either go towards a bi path or totally gay path 😂. i understand that this will require alot of work.
Yeah I never expected straight or bi content but I honestly wouldn't care if it did happen these people attacking others just for mentioning it are delusional
Dude, when I read it on Twitter, I was like wtf? How can people be this delusional? The fact that just because they pay means that they should get higher priority or preferential treatment is outrageous. Like I said, your and your husband’s mental health comes first, and it sucks that people are just rabid and crazier nowadays.
Hey buddy we love you here. Let the haters hate. People who follow you and support you know the truth. Haters feed off of drama. Best thing to do is don't engage them.
そんな大変なことが起きていたのですね。 アンチを気にせず体調を崩さない程度に制作頑張ってください。 ずっと応援してます！ Google Translate ↓ I didn't realize such a terrible thing had happened. Please don't let the haters bother you, and keep working hard on your creations without compromising your health. I'll always be supporting you!
Same people jezzz 😬. I mean why do you have to dig about the others choices just have your own choise and have fun and support the creator
Bisexual people matter as much as anyone else! Biphobia is not cool and should def not be tolerated. Thank you for speaking up and defending your values!
This sort of thing can be such a de-motivator for an independent creator. Especially with the amount of work involved with their passion project. I'm so glad you are in a better place. And that you are not letting them get to you. Your continued development shows how strong you are.
I definitely respect you for not letting them get you down. They're probably people who need attention and make life difficult for others for whatever reason. Personally, I think anyone who wants to tear someone down for those reasons is just pathetic. In my opinion, everyone has the right and the freedom to live life to the fullest and do what they want. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you and hope they'll leave you in peace someday. PS: You've developed a really good game, and I wish you all the best.
You gotta block people /bots a lot quicker. Defend your point and then block haters . Pointless to win an argument on the internet.
烤肉老師您好，我是一名支持了TOS两年多，出生在上海的在美华人，同时我也经历了1月份中国国内的节奏。况且我就是那个在矛之酒馆吧里发您和Kulplant结婚的帖子的人。我的本意是想事件过了几个月后看看吧里的人对这件事的看法，一方面我也以为这就是你对事件后的态度了，但很抱歉对你造成了困扰，我已经将帖子删掉了。作为一个男同，说实话1月份的事对我来说就如晴天霹雳一般，本以为的短痛以一种极其复杂的情感形式延绵至今。以至于前几天在您po文官宣10年爱情长跑时我那份隐隐作痛的复杂情绪伤口再次被戳破了。我崇拜您能创造出TOS这个对我来说最珍视的游戏，我欣赏您在23年采访时说出你喜欢做非传统fvn的游戏的言论，我羡慕并祝福您能拥有一份长达十年的修成正果的爱情长跑，但我也许也恨透了您，因为历经整个事件后所发生的一切都对我太不公平了。我做梦也没有想到这次事件会是这样的结局。以至于今天看到您的言论后，我觉得我有义务尽我最大最后的善良表达自己的想法。我想向您说些藏在我心底沉淀了几个月的话，我恳求您耐心看完我写的文字，因为这可能是我最合适，唯一的机会给你写信了。 首先我想说的是，作为一个读计算机的男同我从来没接触过双性恋，我一直以来对双性恋的认知也基本为零。在您出事后的这几个月里，本来愤怒如激同，难过无比的我却突然想起了高中在South Kent， Connecticut的山丘上一位捷克老师对我说过的话。我忽然恍然大悟一般花了大把时间去逛bisexual reddit，看双性恋YouTube博客的视频和其他社交媒体的双性恋创作者的作品，试图一点一点的了解双性恋是什么和他们对男同的想法。说实话这个过程其实即复杂又痛苦。我见过有价值的观点，见过晦涩难懂的概念，也见过露骨反同，物化男同的言论。但我一直都在坚持，以求交给自己内心一份名为包容的答卷的同时以一个最好的状态去去等待和您对话的机会。烤肉老师您在和那位二创小作者的私聊中提到过自己作为男双很难在经历上想法上代入男同视角，但我想问问出事后的几个月里您有尝试去了解男同这个群体吗？或者说您有思考过为什么很多（中国）男同会对男双有种莫名的不信任感嘛？您是否明白在中国，同性恋，包括双性恋是没有基本人权的？在您回到上海与亲人团聚几月后抖抖尘土潇洒离去的时候，你有考虑过在您身后的这片土地上还有千万人性少数在浓浓迷雾中？他们可能许多不敢出柜，也没有人帮助他们认识自己的性取向，更没有结婚成立家庭的权利，昏昏沉沉的度过看不到希望的生活嘛？您可以打开b站搜索一下关于双性恋的科普，内容不能说少只能说完全没有。国内绝大数人对双性恋是陌生的，也没有任何渠道去了解这个群体。如果我的观点是正确的，那我想请问您为什么要苛求一群可能从来没亲眼见过，只是道听途说双性恋的人立马变成可能花了西方几十年努力才慢慢做到的事呢？况且您认为在性少数不被法律保护的前提下性少数内部之间相互伤害会不存在嘛？我认为国内年轻的男同并不会因为您是双性恋就仇视您，他们反感的核心是您的傲慢。相反如果没有那件事件的话国内的男同都会善良的衷心的祝福您长达10年的跨国爱情。为什么当时要在微博上说出让人困惑不已的言论呢？提出为什么双性恋成了避雷对象时为什么您不能包容那些对双性恋认知为零，急切需要一个包容的，善良的男双形象的年轻男同呢？您也老大不小了吧，真的要和年轻人较劲嘛？相反的您选择了说出可能这辈子对支持了自己7年之久的最缺少安全感的男同粉丝最最最零分，模糊，让人无限脑补的回复。本该作出解释辟遥的黄金时刻您却选择当一个缩头乌龟把压力转移到所有支持你的人身上。不玩游戏的，黑子串子，是个人都会来踩一脚。说实话现在让我去看您当时的言论我真的会捂住眼睛无奈的笑个不停阿。。。您是真的傻得可爱还是说您是冲动过头了呢？如果您真的懂得包容的话为什么在最需要您去包容别人的时候你却选择了挑起矛盾，留下一地鸡毛，许许多多的人都被牵连进来，国内双性恋也因为您的言论直接受到影响。难道您真的不想给这片土地，给自己 留一个好的念想嘛？为什么所有到海外的华人都像换了个脑子一样的傲慢呢？您是否明白未经他人苦，莫劝他人善这个道理呢？ 最后的最后我想问问烤肉老师，您在创作时真的能做到丝毫不受事件的影响么？事件以前就算游戏不更新我也会经常上线听听ost，心里暗爽怎么会有能用一首Tavern of Spear就把矛之酒馆这个游戏是什么解释的那么清楚，那对我来说是多么美好的记忆阿。难道本来能挽救的局面就一定要做到如此地步吗？当我再次打开TOS时我又要抱着什么心情去面对您创造的角色呢？如果连最最简单的和解都做不到那这一切对我来说真的太痛苦了。烤肉你不觉得你真的好自私嘛？你简直就是在虐待在困难下还在默默支持自己，相信你在几个月的沉淀下能够说出尽自己最大努力的肺腑之言的粉丝。一个能经营10年跨国爱情的人却可以做到如此快速，无情的切割支持过自己的粉丝？你难道没有一点错么？这么多年了有任何人开酒馆的节奏么？大伙本来都活的好好的就因为你起了猜忌之心就要清理门户吗？难道几个月的时间里你只是在单纯的等自己逃离到安全地带再畅所欲言嘛？求您快醒醒吧，烤肉老师。包容的定义不是这样的。至少我认为一个人要去包容一件事往往是需要打破自己认知，承受痛苦的。谁没有细腻难以表达的情感呢？为什么一定要掐着对方脖子上纲上线呢？您身边一直都有支持您的人，有些人可能还需要更多的帮助和引导，为什么您要能将他们拒之门外呢？
借楼输出观点，因为写信留言没意义，我甚至不知道一月份的节奏，作为一个默默从v0.6版本赞助到现在的人，我觉得我有资格发声。 失望、背叛以及对ToS未来的悲观。 说真的，我其实也不是特别关注你的私生活，但最起码的，你真的有在用心创作你的作品吗？你看看这两年更新的频次和内容，每次都是超级长的制作周期但是完全没有推进故事。一方面你又没有停止账单，又没有公告说制作进度；另一方面，你又总是在道歉之后拿不出足够有诚意的内容来说服各位玩家——这合适吗？ 国内人总说，红P这种月付型骗骗国外人就好了，国内人根本不相信作者会老老实实制作；现在我信了。你不是我唯一赞助的作者，但你是第一个，也是至今为止唯一一个背叛了我信任的作者。无论这件事情的结尾如何——你是继续挤牙膏式地更新内容，还是往已经臃肿的框架里塞迎合女玩家的内容我都不在乎了。 失去信任，一切都没意义了。大家止损就好，把美好留在回忆里吧。 另外，如果你和KulPlant结婚了的话——拜托，看看人家的更新多么扎实。我不会祝福或者诅咒，我只希望在未来的某一天里你会因为做过的事情承受褒奖或代价；为过去，为现在，为这群支撑、曾经支撑你度过难关的人们。
Don't let these manchildren stop and scare you Caro 🤜💥 ! Their bat**** opinion is irrelevant. It's your game and if they have a problem with it, oh well.
That's so stupid. People actually hating on you because you dat girls can play the game? I know people are messed up but my god, this isn't the 1800s. Geez, People are insane. Sorry that happened to you man.
Annonymity is good and bad (here's the example of bad). Just ignore them, report them and ban them - DC and Twitter. There's gonna be always sb displeased with what you do and really, let them stew in their own hate. You'll otherwise be just too bitter from all of this. ♡ Focus on what you like to do and be with those who support you (ofc those who will voice their concerns if you do something fucked up too but not like those toxic ppl). We - those who aren't bigots and hypocrites like them - will be always here to support you albeit not everybody says so outright (by activity and voicing their opinion).
🫂You’ve been incredibly brave through all this. Thank you for staying true to yourself, and I’ll continue supporting you and TOS unconditionally!
被曲解太难受了！抱抱
Frankly, I wouldn't even be opposed to female characters/ scenes being added to the game let alone just allowing girls to play or make fan content of the characters I can't get behind the mindset of the people who could do this, it's the same type of bigotry we face all the time it's both ridiculous and abhorrent. I'm sorry you've had to go through all of this. I am 100 % behind you on this being gender inclusive should be just common sense.
Those people suck. Keep being creative and making an awesome RPG with amazing art. I'm sorry you got attacked just for being inclusive of everyone. I'm happy to keep supporting what you create.
When it comes to haters it is impossible to reason, Glad you made it thorough, I hope the situation gets better and in the meantime we'll be here to support you and ToS no matter the circumstances ❤️ 💙 💜
As someone who mostly prefers M/M games, I really don't mind if there were female characters. I'm sorry you had to go through that with such close-minded, completely delusional people. At the end of the day, it's your art, your world, and you can have whatever gendered characters you want in it, even if they aren't for the sexy scenes. Stay well!
Oh dear... My thought: just give a peace of sh*t. We love playing ToS for what it is. If they have problems with the content (you wrote a disclaimer)... They should do their own lol. But i know a storm like this is not possible to ignore it. Keep in mind for one hater you have a multiplier for Users who supports you.
That's so awful, I'm really sorry to hear that that happened to you. Thank you for staying strong and supporting your audience.
How can someone demonise you for trying to be inclusive of females, it baffles the mind! We are all here with you and support you!🥰🫡
Well.. im so sorry you were going thru such disgusting things by disgusting people. Although, as an optimistic, at least you know you made it when you have so many haters. Just means your work reached very far ^-^ I wish you well, and as a fellow lewd gay game dev, if you need anything, just come ask me ^-^ i will do best to help.