122 - Far Cry 5 (feat. Alice Caldwell-Kelly)
Alice Caldwell-Kelly (Trashfuture, Kill James Bond!, WTYP) books the lads a helicopter ride straight to the heart of Hope County as they bring about the Collapse of Ubisoft Montreal/Ubisoft Toronto’s Far Cry 5. Topics include the game’s divisive ending, the art of AAA game writing, and the rotten politics seeping out of one of the most morally compromised games ever made.
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Media Referenced in this Episode:
Far Cry 5 by Ubisoft Monstreal and Ubisoft Toronto
“Far Cry 5 Is a Game About Resisting An American Militia, Will Be Out in February” by Stephen Totilo. Kotaku, May 26th 2017.
“Far Cry 5 First Look: A Montana Uprising” by Ryan McCaffrey. IGN. May 16th, 2017.
“Far Cry 5 Director on Social commentary, cults, and bull testicles” by Thomas McMullan. Alphr. March 19th, 2018.
“Far Cry 5: The Kotaku Review” by Ethan Gach. Kotaku, March 26th, 2018.
“Far Cry 5 review” by Ben Kuchera. Polygon. March 28th, 2018.
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Comments (21)
Bought a far cry 5 copy second hand for £3. I can sense the formula creeping in but its fun (I am a sucker for good graphics and environments.) Same issues I have with fallout 4 but also I get to drive dirt bikes into guys. Will relisten cause its fun to contrast with my experience
I vaguely knew the ending involved nukes falling, so I assumed that it was the cult who launched them. While playing the game I kept waiting for the story to reveal that the cult had found a nuke in one of the bunkers. That would be a better final act reveal : the apocalypse doesn't come, so they decide to do it themselves
This was one of the podcasts that convinced me to sub. One, y'all got to get her back to discuss Far Cry 2. Two, did any y'all actually play Days Gone? 'Cause it actually looks at masculinity and male relationships in an interesting ( for a game ) way. I thought the way it addressed grief and anger and other stuff was unusually good. It's not a great game, the writing isn't 10/10, but it isn't as dumb as the marketing made it out to be.
I'm from Michigan, far cry 5 was fun for me. Made me feel like I was in Howell lol
the NPCs aren’t racist enough for it to truly feel like howell
I was introduced to three people the other day and I had to ask myself ... What is this ...?
River Solomon's novel *Sorrowland* explores American cult politics in a much more interesting and queer-centric way than whatever Far Cry claims it does.
All I've gotta say is: Wabadabadoo-jah
Did any of you watch the recent Netflix show 'Captain Lazerhawk'? I mention it because that basically is the Ubisoft Extended Universe that Alice is hypothesizing, crossing over not just the Far Cry titles but properties as disparate as Assassin's Creed, Rayman, and Beyond Good and Evil into a unified schlocky cyberpunk melodrama.
I'm so glad I'm not the only IMFDB autist here.
between the last few episodes i'm pretty happy that i stopped my hobby of consuming every piece of media featured on twoapw before listening to its respective episode
Whenever Alice's not on the podcast, all the other hosts should be asking, "Where's Alice?" Been loving the the eps on bad video games, and I appreciate the fact that y'all have to sink a lot more time into them then a bad movie or an Odyssey episode. So thanks for suffering through it!
Would love to see coverage at some point on the weird Japanese/American mish-mash mess that is Resident Evil, which for some reason has some of the most bizarrely accurate gun renders as seen in IMFDB (super specific stuff like the Samurai Edge that you can make a lot of them almost exactly with real parts, as well as almost perfect airsoft replicas)
it was brought up a bit on the podcast but i believe the lore is that the cult is somehow causing north korea to launch nukes
I'm trying to play through Far Cry 6 right now, but the elements of "cultural cringe" really sap a lot of the enjoyment out of it. Some aspects of the gameplay (air drop/fast travel) break it up pretty well, but bullet-sponge enemies really pigeonhole you into that same stealth-ninja gameplay (suppressed pistol or SVD and shoot from cover). The Resolver weapons are largely unsatisfying, and I don't find myself using them. It's one of those games that I don't know whether I'll finish or not...maybe with a good enough snowstorm before winter ends.
Not the goddamn cartoon worship song!! 😂😂😂
Idiotic writing aside, I actually had a blast with this game as an open world chaos simulator. Just unhinged, cartoon slapstick fun. I have some great memories ot Far Cry games even if those returns are diminishing. I can actually draw a line from the playing the original Xbox game to how much I enjoyed my recent playthrough of the Thief games.
Oh wait, I'm a "Gamer" and other adults online have differing gaming opinions so I'm supposed to rant. I am SICK and TIRED of hearing about Justin being the "hot one" in regards to NSYNC. It's so obviously LANCE! LANCE is the hot one, people!
I've been thinking lately about why I don't usually finish open world games. The only assassin's creed I finished was 3, which I regret because thats a game that punishes you for trying to finish it by wasting your time. I haven't finished a Far Cry after 2. Conversely I've finished all 3 Mafia games and really enjoyed them, I think because, as weak as those games can be in ways, they're not trying to be everything to everyone and are mainly focused on telling a fairly competently written story, and those (admittedly pulpy) limitations of genre and story keep them focused enough to deliver a satisfying experience.
This was the first far cry game I played. All I have to say is it was legally a video game and playing it over covid meant that it technically wasn't a waste of time.
Oh dear. This game. This business. The sources linked. I'm having flashbacks. My two cents :the last good farcry games were 3 and the laser dinos 80 vibes (blood dragon) ones.
