60 - Adventures in Modesty (feat. April Ajoy) [Whit's Endless Summer #19]

Working my way through Whit’s Endless Summer and really glad you had an evangelical-raised cis woman as your guest for this one, because our experiences with this purity garbage were unique to us. As a *child* I was onboard 100% with George and against Donna, and applauded AiO for tackling a “real-world lesson” that (to my very sheltered self) was “edgy.” Listening today, the last scene giving Jack more say over Donna’s clothes than she gets for herself, assuming the male teen is reliable in this but the female teen is not…it’s so disgusting and demeaning and also predictable. And revealing just how deeply indoctrinated I was as a kid that I agreed even with this scene: all males were superior in judgment.

every Mx's battle

Decades later, the guy who posited women as auditory horndogs went on to be the one evangelical who embraced WAP with open arms. "And what metaphor does she make: Macaroni in a pot. WHAT DID I TELL YOU? CASE CLOSED."

While re-listening to ‘A Model Child’ and ‘Modesty is the Best Policy’ I realized that both of those episodes totally played a role in kind of curbing my dysphoria as a kid… because no matter how badly I wanted to be a girl, I did NOT want to be treated like that, and held to those standards. Really gross and really sad

Oh my GOD I forgot about the Passover episode!!! Someone please tell me do they cover it!? I remember the screaming...

THAT FUCKED UP BABY IN PASSION OF THE CHRIST!!!! That thing got me kicked out of a school screening of that movie (Catholic school) cause I laughed so fucking hard at that effect.

Wait wait wait... George is far more strict than Whit???? Whit didn't have a problem but George lost it????

(out of extremely stiff competition) maybe one of the best aj interstitials i've heard yet

Took your advice and listened to the David Griffin interview on Growing Up Christian, knowing his mental health challenges and what a sanctuary the cast and crew of AIO was for him, makes this horrendous puberty episode bitter sweet. I admire that guy so much.

Oh Beauty Contests really sound eugenicsy -it's like hollistic judgement of women

Hahahahaha oh noooo - I absolutely went through a phase where I asked God what I should wear each day 😬🤣

Hearing these episodes for the first time in who knows how many years were like war flashbacks. Doing the thousand yard stare as I drive my commute

I called the ad break joke as soon as you said the name, and then still laughed because it's so perfectly stupid. And the talk about slurping made me think of the 7-11 Dance the Slurp promo record: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRVeiJwupo4

You three guys seem to have a good grasp of child psychology and an empathy towards young people. Have you all thought about adopting a baby together?

I love how I have the most vivid memories for the audio beats of the worst episodes of this show. Listening to Dale and Melanie open the episode snapped me back to this episode in the same way Eugene describing Hell does for The Mortal Coil. The Cosby Show also did an episode on modesty with more or less the same message. Good thing Cosby isn't a predator or anything

"As what?? A STaGeHanD???" Well fuck you too, Jimmy

I laughed really loud at this episode’s ad break