256 - The Hurt Locker (feat. Patrick Wyman)
Patrick Wyman (Past Lives, Master of Our Domain, Tides of History) and the lads throw on their bomb suits and chase that adrenaline high as they cover Kathryn Bigelow’s critically-acclaimed 2009 war film: The Hurt Locker. Topics include the thrill of warfare, war films as propaganda, and what it means to exist in a culture full of War Paddingtons.
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Masters of Our Domain: A podcast that used to be about Seinfeld and is now about history, from Phoebe Roy, Milo Edwards and Patrick Wyman.
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Media Referenced in this Episode:
The Hurt Locker. Dir. Kathryn Bigelow. 2009.
“A House of Dynamite Visualizes the Unthinkable” by Sarah Fensom. American Cinematographer. January 20th, 2026.
“Between Iraq and a Hard Place The Hurt Locker’s Editing Team – on Location in the Middle East” by Chris Innis. Women Film Editors. Princeton. March 15th, 2010.
“Could The Hurt Locker Take Sound Oscars? An interview with Paul Ottosson” by Blair Jackson. Mix. March 1st, 2010.
“Cinematographer Barry Ackroyd Talks The Hurt Locker” by Scott Macauley. Filmmaker Magazine. November 14th, 2011.
“The Hurt Locker: A Near-Perfect War Film” by Richard Corliss. Time. September 4th, 2008.
“The Hurt Locker: Cinematic Addiction, ‘Critique’, and the War on Terror” by Bruce Bennett and Bülent Diken. Cultural Politics: Volume 7, Issue 2. Pgs. 165-188. Duke University Press. 2011.
“Kathryn Bigelow, Catastrophe Connoisseur” by Robert Sullivan. The New Yorker. January 5th, 2026.
“The Unorthodox Relationship Between Kathryn Bigelow and Mark Boal” by Kim Masters. The Hollywood Reporter December 19th, 2012.
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Comments (31)
I’m listening back to this and when I listened to it the first time I forgot to mention that I really appreciate the comments about young guys talking to women. Thanks for sticking up for us.
I remember watching this film at a friend's when I was 15. It was a couple of years after the film was released, the group of boys selected it because it was critically acclaimed and it was a war movie, so we'd like it, right? I remember being *so* crushed by how bleak I found it, and I didn't yet have the tools or developed worldview to understand why I felt so bleak. I'm British - the cultural loathing of the Iraq war was significantly more accepted, even before the film was released, so I think part of my confusion was that I didn't have the cultural unease about Iraq. I hated it. I had strong opinions on it as a (very precocious) child. So what I was reckoning with was actually the American perspective; how the hell can you not feel compelled to plant your feet on this issue? Anyway, as somebody who's had strong convictions on Palestine for my whole adult life, I genuinely think this film did a lot to prepare me for the way people would drag their feet on Gaza for years.
Please talk more about Alex Mack...
I love how Kathryn Bigelow unintentionally makes a great movie within a movie. She's done it twice. Point Break is about surfers, but it's also one of the best skydiving movies ever made. The Hurt Locker is mainly about diffusing bombs, but that sniper set piece is possibly the greatest Army Rangers movie ever made.
I think a really interesting companion to this would be Bluestone 42, it's kind of British hurt locker, but a comedy, and made during the war in Afghanistan. I think it has an almost polar opposite perspective, but quite similar at the same time
You need to talk about "the devil wears Prada" as a companion piece to "the hurt locker". It's in my opinion the antithesis of a Paddington movie.
Oh my god, J.R.! A bomb!
"What if the guy at work in a Phil Colins cover band, had an app?" Thats cold AJ.
Hey TWOAPW, this is Kyle, from Wooster, Ohio. I'd like to recommend a movie for you. 'Cherry' by the Russo Brothers, released in 2021, but by a modern miracle, a pre-COVID production. Tom Holland is the protagonist, and he gives this role his all. And because the Russos are good Cleveland boys, it is a Cleveland ass movie. 10/10
Lemonade Mouth is one of my favourite D Com movies, more than HSM1 and 3, more than Camp Rock 1&2. But not better than HSM2 or Wizards of Waverley Place movie.
Operation Flashpoint had better quote placement because these popped up when you died
Soooo on the Battle of Kadesh... the archaeology both accounts from the Hittites & territorial accounts... we know Ramses is lying like... a lot. Following the battle there was no territorial gains even though Egypt sallied forth to gain land. We know he is exaggerating numbers. The monumental artworks he raises are to legitimize his venture. His epic is more like THL than is immediately evident.
40:40 this is somewhat a nihilistic framing, a nihilism which serves to expiate both the movie (the person there was put intentionally, there is no happenstance in plot) & the USA of the wrongness of its excursions into the Middle East; & further, it lays the tools by which current genocides have been propagandized & the perpetrators washed in the whole "shooting & weeping" cinema. There is no "just a man" in art, the portrait we are shown is artifice, it is deliberate; there is a reason for which she constructs this person & it is as propaganda. As I hear yall talk this I'm struck as if hearing folk slavering over the ouvre of DWGriffith or Leni Riefenstahl. It's macabre.
On the topic of the post-break conversation: the kinds of guys who make these sorts of posts are so far removed from even the idea of being in a relationship with a woman. They don't want to attract women, they don't want to be with one. They are so full of resentment and bitterness that all they have left is just "attack, attack, attack" at the people they blame for not giving them what they think they deserve. It's sour grapes but more hateful. It's eternal victimhood complex.
Hurt lockers hurt lockers
Listening to this right after masters of our domain and wondering why pat is thinking so much about picaresques
Omg, Mark Bohl! Didn’t he work with Serial S2 and provided a lot of the interviews w Bowe ??
Jeremey renner has taken over my phone what do I do
My pfp is a BOLO notice from a high rise hotel. I spent fifteen years climbing cranes and gaining illicit access to skyscraper roofs and underground tunnels in a goofy hobby called urbex. I had cops point loaded guns at me multiple times, found myself in the middle of an unstable abandoned building roof, floor, or catwalk multiple times, and ran from workers and cops more times than I can count. Normal life was full of anxiety and depression but any time I went over a fence or got through a door and crossed the threshold of misdemeanor crime, all that went away and there was only the mission: get in, take pictures, get out. The clarity of adrenaline is the most addictive feeling I've ever experienced.
I do combat sports in the for buhurt or steel fighting and I can sah that adrenaline is really th draw
Someone once called Kathryn Bigelow as the Leni Reifenstahl of the american Reich
40:00 Paddington's sig garb is a duffel coat. Not really a raincoat, though they tend to be made from such stiff wool that you stay dry. Peruvian bear dresses like Russian squarebasher in London to ska soundtrack is very prebrexit postcolonial vibes.
At 1:05:10, you can hear a kitty cat meow and then purr into the microphone. Thank you.
This fuckass movie
Charlton Heston once said that the ten most terrifying words in the English language are "I'm Philip Glass and I'm here to fix your sink."
Speaking on war: I feel like if you are interested in how perspective changes things, you should read the book Storm of Steel by Ernst Junger. He is a German soldier who goes in near the start of WW1 and lasts almost the totality of the war, and he has a largely positive opinion of the most ghastly war in human history. And yet, there are parts of the book like when he is under artillery barrage for days on end or when he sees scorched earth being implemented that you start to question how much he is lying to himself because he has to to survive. It and also Poilu are excellent first hand accounts of the Great War from radically different povs
AJ is going to do a play called Downfall, where everything is the same except Hitler is a goose
Listening to Patrick describing the kind of warrior the Army wants (adrenaline junkie who has way more fight than flight response) reminds me of a comment I saw somewhere online during the height of the Iraq war. Paraphrasing from memory it went, "There is a kind of guy in line companies who is perfectly happy to deploy to a combat zone for 6 to 12 months at a time, if it means when he's back in garrison he gets to eat steak at Texas Roadhouse every Friday night, and drive a Ford F-150.” I did four years in the Marine Corps. I met this guy many times.
Yay! hahaha Yippee!
Hearing Patrick talk about the gym and combat sports with the tune of the Rich Piana Memorial Wellness Corner emerging like a mirage in the desert
tastes like SHIT
