138 - Baby Reindeer

"I don't know if you've read Epstein's emails" boy, I picked a good time to be listening through the back catalogue

I started this episode and when you got to the opening I paused, watched the series in two sittings and came back. What a show, it'll leave me thinking.

Catching this episode for the first time today so sorry for the very very overdue comment. I just wanted to say shout out to Brian for the content warning in the beginning; there was something oddly comforting about the way he said “we’ll see you next week.” Thanks, Brian!

Wait… this is edited?! I’m not getting this live?!

The thing about Terri saying things like "fancy" -- I don't think it was lazy writing. One takes on the speech patterns of one's locale after a time. E.g., Riley Quinn speaks "Britishly" because he's lived in the UK for so long and it can be a jolt because he speaks with a Canadian accent but what can ya do.

Can't say I was expecting y'all to come out as sovereign citizens. I'm not at all surprised that you are. I'm just surprised you said it out loud

On the bedroom sink: I've been looking at a lot of real estate listings for houses in England recently (long story), and sinks in bedrooms are not uncommon there in older houses, unusually ones which only have one bathroom. You do see them in Victorian houses here in the States, either in what had been servants' bedrooms or in houses which were rooming houses. I live in South Philadelphia, and it was common for families who owned large row houses to rent out rooms, usually on the 3rd floor of the house, so you'll still see sinks there. They not only kept your lodger from tying up the bathroom, but also allowed them to do light cooking and washing up in their rooms. In both the US And UK it makes sense when you take into account that bathing/showering daily has only become common for the majority of the population recently, really after WWII. Before that, you washed your face and brushed your teeth and went about your day. People who bathed regularly bathed weekly.

On a future award winning true crime podcast, Horses He Loved... "It was a warm Spring day in May, warm but it's the South so it'd have felt like Summer in New York. New York, that woke state where A.J. Ditty lived, lived and dreamed of horses... and murder."

Hitlérsátán, my favourite Béla Tarr movie

Just watched the whole show after listening to this ep. Breathtaking shit. So painful. So devastating. I appreciate listening to this back with all the context I have now

Sounds good. I might have to commit my eye units to this digital content

I hate to have to tell you this but, people absolutely pee in those bedroom sinks

I also got laid off Josh, I feel yav

Scrench mentioned!

Jesus Christ, all timer interstitial lmao

I had no inclination to do that awful bit until it was the very last thing you said and the awful gremlin in the back of my brain went "ah, but what if we change it slightly in a comedic manner... what then" and so I'm telling Satan to leave me now

Talking about bedroom sinks, I haven't seen many outside of one room hovel flats, and one that was in a old home I was staying in, that broke during our stay and flooded the kitchen of the house and buckled the floorboards on the floor of the hallway as it leaked though the ceiling

Question for the lads: Richard/Donny have some major chaser vibes which I think explains alotta this weird highlighting of Terri being trans but is it also possible he thought by doing that he was also making a weird political statement against rampant terfism on that stupid little island? It kinda read as this problematic shot at transphobia as well as toxic masculinity and the whole "being attracted to transwomen is gay" attitudes that were real big at this time.

I was going to invite y’all to see a fancy movie in the City with me next month, but now I’m terrified of how that would look.

The condom thing about Calvin has changed, thankfully

It's Turks all the way down!

Love me queen ( sized-bed ), love me sink. Don't like it? There's the door.

I wasn't expecting to get hit by the most Ukrainian Scottish accent I have ever heard this early in the morning.

I have to say, I'm a bit conflicted about episodes about VERY recent media (not like Outer Wilds, which has been around long enough), especially if it's very popular (and well made). On the one hand, I might've missed BR if you hadn't put a spotlight on it, on the other hand, I now HAVE to stop the podcast and watch the show first, because I don't like spoilers.

Logged in just to comment that if you're stuck in renteer hell in the UK, the sink in bedroom is weirdly common. You used to find them a lot in dingy-er student houses and they do a great job of adding to the layer of damp on everything else over here!

Assume you guys might cover some of the updates on this on the ladscast. Obviously there is the interview and the internet did find “Martha” very quickly, but also the attempts to track down “Darrien” by the true crime brained have been pretty devastating for those at the pointy end of accusations.

I'm really liking this episode, but I feel that the preface should have included a little more detail. All I can find is the Pierce Morgan interview which to me comes off as noncredible