March 20, 2024

130 - Heaven is for Real (feat. Radio Free Tote Bag)

This week, Josh and Brian are joined by Radio Free Tote Bag as they take the next direct flight straight to God’s Throne. We discuss the history of books about heaven, the Near-Death Experience community, and the many thrills of saying “Burpo” over and over again.

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LogalogJack · September 26, 2026

2:22:10 All I can hear in my Odyssey brainrotted head is “THEEEE NATHAN HALE????? OH WOW, OH WOWWWWW!!!”

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Levi Winter · September 3, 2026

YES! I'm 16 minutes in so idk if we go more in depth later but Brian made a point about the function of heaven visions etc in Christian belief that I was a little obsessed with in (Catholic) college. I had an advanced theology class discussing proofs across time, and for the term paper, I posited the "heaven vision" Evangelical films and their ilk as the modern proof. Heaven is for Real was one I covered and gave me the idea in the first place because my Lutheran parents decided to put it on. It's such an interesting topic I'd love to dig into more and people I've mentioned it to have never quite seemed to get it.

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Ms. Charlie · March 29, 2026

Coming back to say that I owe Audrey a life debt, because her description of what a kidney stone feels like ("a pain in my back that I couldn't stretch out") helped me diagnose MY kidney stone, which was also infected. Thank you, Audrey 🙏

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LogalogJack · February 28, 2026

“He was raised in a religious environment, this is how he’s going to pretend” made me remember that I wanted to have an imaginary friend because I saw them on tv but didn’t have any ideas so I just pretended to hang out with Jesus and the apostles. Jesus didn’t play during the weekend though because he died every Friday and came back Sunday. I’m fine now probably

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FelineJay · February 10, 2026

Bodd Turpo: A Star Wars Story

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Ms. Charlie · April 11, 2025

We read 90 minutes in heaven in driver's ed which in retrospect was kinda fucked up

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Emily Faye · January 2, 2025

I grew up in a super Southern Baptist household as a disabled kid. There’s SO MUCH to unpack about the way disability is treated in the church. And I think Alex getting co-credits as an author on the book but never getting a dime says a lot towards that.

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Lain of the Wired · June 17, 2024

i have had a near death experience and Saw Some Shit and now my go to description of heaven when my religious relatives ask me is "if i told you then you wouldnt want to go" and i think thats the best response to such things since it can def put some cosmic horror into your daily life which can be delightful

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Noblese Oblahaj · April 14, 2024

You read the poem in the same cadence of the guy reading "Half-Life Full-Life Consequences" on YouTube.

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Ronin Fredricson · April 3, 2024

God said if you don't pay your medical bills he's gonna make the doctor put the appendix back in

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Andrew T. Wilson · March 24, 2024

Mr. Burpo is listed as my alias on my arrest report for Public Drunkenness, Misuse of Public Facilities; and Operating a Motion Picture Show, Circus, or Carnival Without a License.

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Andrew T. Wilson · March 23, 2024

The way one of y'all said "Present Day" made me have the sudden flash that you should do an episode on the anime Serial Experiments Lain.

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tye leatherson · March 22, 2024

no joke but I was literally hospitalized this morning with kidney stones, I am so sorry for making fun of colton burpo

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Regular Sized Horse (Small) · March 22, 2024

The little yellow book is the libertarian version of the little red book.

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The Worst of All Possible Worlds · March 22, 2024

you write your own, so no two are the same

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Elaine Åhlfeldt · March 21, 2024

The reasoning about that red markers thing, which provoked the discussion on whether or not he really bought into his own sales pitch, felt to me like it had to be a little of both. It's so baffling that I can't believe anyone could write that to consciously pull the wool over someone else, he must have convinced himself it made sense first. But that's often how it goes with that kind of extravagant lying, when you've already committed to something so far out of the sensible and have external incentives to keep it up it can be terrifying to even consider doubt. Very funny and interesting as always, lads, thank you!

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Skrank Morley · March 21, 2024

Thank you, A.J., for your visitation from beyond the grave/Egyptian debtor's prison.

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tye leatherson · March 21, 2024

part of what always alienated me about christianity growing up was this childish conception of god and heaven. i didnt get back into it until i got the orthodox explanation where its more spiritual in a weird but interesting way.

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Kenzie Leigh · March 21, 2024

Another wonderful episode! Heaven Is For Real was filmed in my hometown. I was in highschool at the time and I remember people who say they saw Greg Kinnear walking around downtown. It is funny how Winnipeg is used as Generitic American Midwestern City in a lot of low-budget movies!

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Benalish Transexual · March 21, 2024

woah these episodes have thumbnails

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Jordyn Clementi · March 21, 2024

I just unlocked Sonja Burpo in Tekken 8, her combos are insane.

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Ray of F---ing Sunshine · March 21, 2024

Every time I've been under anesthesia I've had a vision of Snoop Dogg sitting in the recovery room with me, maybe that's what heaven is

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Peter Paul Rubens' Muse · March 21, 2024

that's your guardian angel

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Chris Smith · March 20, 2024

Hang on. Margo Martindale? Tod? Secretariat? Greg Kinnear? What is this? A cross over episode.

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misterr · March 20, 2024

Very funny interesting episode. Thank you.

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Brandon Chinn · March 20, 2024

Another awesome episode where so many of the anecdotes are so eerily similar to my lived experience that I get to have an out of body experience at the gym

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Ryujin713 · March 20, 2024

Gormless Burpo had me in fucking tears

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Zipzapzop · March 20, 2024

Just an interesting cultural comparison these sorts of stories are quite big in Buddhism but the person usually goes to hell https//www.shambhala.com/a-guided-tour-of-hell-3534.html

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SuzyLee (Vic) · March 20, 2024

As someone who walked around with a burst appendix for 3 weeks that doctors also refused to diagnose as appendicitis lemmie just say OOF

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Morgan Byrd · March 20, 2024

This is heroic podcasting but I cannot *believe* that you guys mentioned The Living Bi-Bal without AJ! It should have a drop

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Fruitless · March 20, 2024

Every media object is at least two people removed from a TWOAPW episode. Amazing

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Typhoon Jim · March 20, 2024

Jesus has the eyes of Ibad! Bi-lal kaifa!

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Grouchiest Marxiest · March 20, 2024

HOMOS FOR SARAH might be one of the funniest things I've ever heard

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Samuel E McConnell · March 20, 2024

As a high school theology teacher, I realized that most of my students were exposed to this movie in elementary school. Exposing the truth was. . . entertaining.

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Dergon · March 20, 2024

OMFG Struggling homeschooled Pentecostal kid? That was my life! Love hearing that struggling socially and academically with that sort of background is common lol

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Dergon · March 20, 2024

You guys are just jealous you never had the experience of someone putting their hand on your forehead (at least mine wasn't a fivehead, BRIAN) and then praying loudly before shoving you backwards, and you pretend to be unconscious because whatever Jesus magic was supposed to happen didn't, but you didn't want to be the only one it didn't work on, so you fall down like expected, lying there eyes squinched up, worrying God hates you, until you hear someone else get up first, then walk back to your seat feeling like a spiritual failure. Good times

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Dergon · March 20, 2024

The Swedenborg is formed when all the Burpos put their fiveheads together.

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vercingix · March 20, 2024

Burpo sounds like a long lost Marx brother

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Crispined Glover Potato Snacks · March 20, 2024

"Heaven is totes real, yo"

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BarFly · March 20, 2024

"Did you hear that Smithers? Burpo is coming!"

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BrianAlflordIsGoodActually · March 20, 2024

i never get tired of yall crazy ass stories from your college years

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No one said you have to live on Bob. · March 20, 2024

I remember when this book passed through my house. I hate this supernatural affirmation, faith-healing bullshit. It came up in my family more personally this year in an ongoing dire situation and the intense, sincere, false hope it gives is alienating and awful.

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By Tove! · March 20, 2024

I'm pretty sure my parents and/or grandparents had 90 minutes in heaven

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Typhoon Jim · March 20, 2024

Damn, most folks are only going for 7 minutes. legendary