Wonder Boy 3, Phantasy Zone and more!
Hi all, I have too many news this week!
-New System 16 beta with four games added: Wonder Boy 3, Phantasy Zone, Action Fighter and Alex Kidd. Note that WB3 is in the alternatives folder only for now.
-For MiST and Sidi, just use the attached files as usual
-For MiSTer, beta files are now stored in jtbin and you can download them from there. You can also use the update_all script but you have to enable the beta feature before. To do that, start update_all and press "up" so you go into the menu, there, then follow the steps in the video
-MiSTer users need to copy the attached beta.zip file to games/mame. If you use update_all, this should be your only action once per month to get beta updates
-If beta.zip is not found, the game inputs will be locked. MiST/SiDi versions don't need beta.zip
-Betas are not for distribution. They are only for members of the beta test tier. There is no module used in the beta cores for which I don't have the right license or direct permission from the author to use it in this way
-Eventually, betas and source code will be published, as I have always done
-A full-time hire will join the JT team starting next week. He will be working on new CPU modules and on verifying the existing ones
-theYpsilon prepared update_all to support the new beta approach. I want to work with him in improving the quality of the updater, so it works more reliably
-JTBIN now contains betas and the latest updates
-JTSTABLE is a new repository that updates more slowly with focus on stability and no surprises
-I hope that this new arrangement will make life easier for MiSTer patrons, all feedback is appreciated.
Now, let's enjoy System16 together!
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Hola a todos, ¡tengo demasiadas noticias esta semana!
-Nueva beta de System 16 con cuatro juegos agregados: Wonder Boy 3, Phantasy Zone, Action Fighter y Alex Kidd. Tenga en cuenta que WB3 está en la carpeta de alternativas solo por ahora.
-Para MiST y Sidi, simplemente use los archivos adjuntos como de costumbre
-Para MiSTer, los archivos beta ahora se almacenan en jtbin y puede descargarlos desde allí. También puede usar el script update_all, pero antes debe habilitar la función beta. Para hacer eso, inicie update_all y presione "arriba" para ir al menú, allí, luego siga los pasos en el video
-Los usuarios de MiSTer necesitan copiar el archivo beta.zip adjunto a games / mame. Si usa update_all, esta debería ser su única acción una vez al mes para obtener actualizaciones beta
-Si no se encuentra beta.zip, las entradas del juego se bloquearán. Las versiones MiST / SiDi no necesitan beta.zip
-Las betas no son para distribución. Son solo para miembros del nivel de prueba beta. No hay ningún módulo utilizado en los núcleos beta para el que no tenga la licencia adecuada o el permiso directo del autor para usarlo de esta manera.
-Con el tiempo se publicarán las betas y el código fuente, como siempre he hecho
-Un empleado a tiempo completo se unirá al equipo JT a partir de la próxima semana. Trabajará en nuevos módulos de CPU y en la verificación de los existentes.
-theYpsilon preparó update_all para admitir el nuevo enfoque beta. Quiero trabajar con él para mejorar la calidad del actualizador, para que funcione de manera más fiable.
-JTBIN ahora contiene betas y las últimas actualizaciones
-JTSTABLE es un nuevo repositorio que se actualiza más lentamente con un enfoque en la estabilidad y sin sorpresas
-Espero que este nuevo arreglo les facilite la vida a los clientes de MiSTer, se agradecen todos los comentarios.
¡Ahora, disfrutemos System16 juntos!
Comments (86)
I have not been able to troubleshoot this issue, so I am totally locked out of CPS 2. I have the beta file in the correct place
Same issue here. I hope to sort this out, it's much simpler to update
I think the beta.zip should be renamed to jtbeta.zip, just a suggestion.
You're right. We'll change it next month
Everything was working for me, but today I tried to play Dimahoo unlocked and get the lock screen... Beta.zip is in its place. All the other games work still, including regular dimahoo. Anyone have any ideas?
Do you know if the update_all script will show it updating from JTBIN? I have betas enabled and still get updates from JTStable, and never see any indication that it is downloading from JTBIN.
This new updating method is a nice idea, but it isn’t working well. Can we continue with the old method of updating while the issues are worked out?
That's *very* exciting, I'm hoping for Alien Syndrome later, cool co-op game
Anyone else having issues with the controls not working in Wonder Boy 3? The game loads and I can insert coins and start the game but the controls aren't working. I've copied the beta.zip file into the games/mame folder but no luck. The beta.zip seems to download as beta.bin, so in games/mame I've tried beta.bin, beta.zip (renamed beta.bin) and both beta.bin and beta.zip. Any ideas? Cheers
it needs to be the actual beta.zip file from this patreon, sometimes our OSs unzip zip files for us when we download them, probably what happened to you, and sometimes it'll move the original file to the trash/recycle bin, but we want the file zipped when we copy it across can't just rename it, if it's still not working after you've got the correct file in the correct place, run update_all script and change it so force full resync option is on on all jt stuff and turn off the ROM getter incase it overwrites the beta.zip file as there's another MAME rom with that name apparently, I had to do this twice pulling the power to reset after update_all finished each time before mine would behave itself
same for me: the "beta text" doesn't disapear. and yes, I have the file in the right place...
Could try replacing the RBF with a fresh download from the web or discord? There was a problem with the first one.
(UPDATE: did update_all this morning and it seems to work now :)) Same problem here... beta.zip in correct place, still get the beta text showing up in the games. Tried rebooting, re-copying, etc. I don't use USB or a network location for games.
first make sure to folow all the steps in the JTS16_mister_210611.zip install.txt, then remove your sd card and copy the beta.zip from to the sd card using the computer, works perfectly for some reason it didnt work at all when i used lan to transfer the file
I have also placed beta.zip into the games/mame folder and the "Beta" text still comes up. Not sure what I am doing incorrectly
Trying forcing a full re-update on the jt stuff by setting force full resync option in update_all script and with MAME rom getter turned off and making sure you have the correct beta.zip file in /games/MAME (that it hasn't been overwritten by the ROM getter), after I tried this twice rebooting each time everything came good for me, see if that works for you
Anyone no a answer don't get sound in most cores. I use to with no problem.
I need help most CPS games no longer work and crash with all lights on mister going out except for usb green lights. I can't get Final Fight or Ghosts & Goblins to work now, all lights go out. I have used update_all, have the beta.zip in MAME directory. What can I do now? I've also had the Beta setting enabled and tried an update_all with this disabled? How can I go back to when all the CPS cores used to work? Some cores like Bubble Bobble also just go back to the Mister menu without running.
This sounds like invalidated symlinks. Just delete the whole _Organized folder, as well as "last_run" from Scripts/.cache/arcade_organizer, and then run update_all.sh again
I put beta.zip in games/mame and modified the update_all script like in video, but I can’t see CPS2 and S16 games, and the script doesn't download the cores. Should I get the games roms myself? Which is the correct mame DAT?
It's my understanding that CPS2 is not included in this new way of doing things so scroll down to the last CPS2 post and follow the instructions to install it, in regards to getting the ROMs if you have MAME rom getter turned on in the update_all script it will get the ROMs for you once you have the mra files in the arcade folder, be careful that the MAME rom getter doesn't replace this new beta.zip file though, may need to copy it's back across if it does
OK after doing the forced update one more time, I can now load my network shares fine alongside s16 no issues anymore dunno what fixed it unfortunately for everyone else
Hello. I don't know if I'm the only one with this problem, but beta.zip doesn't seem to work since this morning. Last night everything was working fine but this morning none of the system16 games are playable.
I am having this issue as well. Performing another update now. Confirmed working after 2nd update.
Ok Jose those of us who have most of our ROMs on USB or network shares are definitely experiencing major issues. I normally have every thing except mame and ao486 mounted from network shares (cifs) and mame and a0486 on microsd. Was experiencing same issue as people with USB problems: core and ROMs loading fine but controls locked out and message to copy beta.zip into /mame/games/ which I did and rebooted numerous times also making sure the beta.zip was not overwritten by the mame getter in update_all script, tried various methods of rebooting even pulling the plug waiting 10 seconds replugging, none of this worked. I did eventually get it to work by telling the update_all script to force a full update on all jt stuff (force full resync option) and making sure mame downloader is turned off making sure you have correct beta.zip in correct location, then when you goto try to play a game you will still get the message and lockout but if you pull the plug then try again it works, but the moment I run my script to connect all my network shares for the other cores it kills it somehow again and you get locked out and the message again, hope this info somehow helps you to fix this for us, for now I think were going to have to choose between S16 and other arcade or everything else on mister but s16, thanks for everything Jose, hope you figure this one out
In my case beta.zip only worked for the first two games I tested, Action fighter once, and then the next one was Alex kidd. After that it kept giving the message "place the file beta.zip in the folder games/mame". Not using any USB storage device. Copied beta.zip again and restarted, still showing the same message for any game I try on this core.
great work here, Jotego. we look forward to all this new development :-)
Hi Jotego! Thanks for all the work, system16 is cool id love to play a little cotton! Fantasy zone plays well there is just those moments between stages where the tiles change color that is unusual, i own a s16 multi and never noticed that before, shinobi plays great as for wonder boy 3 and alexx kidd.
I'm having issues with the beta.zip file as well. Also have USB storage, but mame roms are all on my SD card
I'm afraid we didn't test that case before releasing it. We are going to look into it. I suppose MiSTer isn't looking for it in the right place. But just in case, check that you have the right beta.zip and that you are not starting the old Shinobi MRA but the new one.
How long is this beta.zip good for? Will we need to replace it as frequently as we are replacing the beta cores or will it be replaced monthly after support is paid? If we've previously paid for access to the beta but then stop support what are the steps needed to ensure that we still retain access to the beta versions we did pay for?
Good questions. The beta.zip files will work for the whole month. The idea is to make life easier to patrons: so you manually change one file once a month. The zip file method was more cumbersome. About the duration of the beta versions, I need to gather more opinions from patrons. I haven't decided a policy about it. I will ask on our Discord server what people think.
I got mine working briefly after I disconnected USB, but only once. I cold booted and it came up with the message that it couldn't find it again :/
Yeah, I have the beta.zip in my games/mame folder as well, and I'm locked out too. I'm not using any kind of USB storage.
Be sure you don't use the old Shinobi MRA file. Also, the MAME getter seems to get a beta.zip file from some obscure system. So you may not have the right beta.zip in games/mame
Yes it locks me out also when i try the games listed above
Is it working ok for you now?
Que tal José, un saludo, solo tengo una pregunta, ¿ se tiene que descomprimir el archivo beta.zip, o lo paso así directamente a la carpeta mame? muchas gracias por tu trabajo,
Hola Hector, hay que dejar el .zip comprimido. Gracias.
wonderboy 3 does not show under organized, but does show in the main list.
It goes under the alternative game list because the main WB3 version isn't ready yet. There are many different versions with different hardware and the one supported now isn't the main one.
I'm having the same problem as Jonathan, pretty sure it's because I have USB storage attached even through there's no arcade cores on there. Even created /games/mame on it but that made no difference. Fantasy Zone works fine otherwise, but it's definitely not detecting beta.zip anywhere I put it :(
I had taken the .bin out and placed it in the games/ mame and it did not work. I deleted that .bin and put the whole zip file in and it worked. Hope this helps.
pacoarcade yep I tried reboot, cold reboot and everything I can think of, but still no luck :( Thankfully the CPS2 stuff still works. It's maddening becuase I can see the game right there on my screen, but I'm locked out of it
As above, I think I found the source of the problem. While my games/mame folder is on my SD card, I have a USB stick attached, which has another games folder for other cores. When I remove the USB stick, the games work. It'll be a pain to have to remove my USB stick every time I want to play just to get around some DRM, but at least I can get it to work.
I just copied the beta.zip file, changed the update script and ran the update. It pulled in the s16 content but it apparently did not pull in cps2 - is the latter not included in this process?
I am wondering about this too! I just joined Jotego's patreon as well and placed the "beta.zip" file accordingly and the only beta games available are from sega system 16!
I have only just become a patreon. I have downloaded the beta.zip, to games\mame, update with update_all. I now have several beta games, however ... when I attempt to run a beta game, I see Rom#0 ... rom#6, then blank screen, the only button that works is the credits button. The only area of interest I can think of is that I mount the games directory from my NAS via cifs_mount script, is this likely to be an issue? Update: It was *every* arcade game, resolved after running Acorn computer, - very slow to come up with prompt, then everything therafter worked, including betas. Go figure.
Fantastic JT Friday. Followed the instructions and everything worked fine. Very happy!!!
I can't get it to work. I copied beta.zip over to the media/fat/games/mame (I've tried via ftp and directly by mounting the SD card via USB), ran the update.I can see the new games but I'm locked out and I get a message to join the beta and copy the beta.zip to games/mame (which I've already done) I tried running the full update option as well but that didn't change anything.
I had this issue earlier. After deleting and re-downloading the beta.zip, it seems to be working now.
FYI. It's not Phantasy Zone but Fantasy Zone.
Amazing work just wondering what i have done wrong follow install.. but cant seem to find wonder boy 3 even in alter folder
Great Job Jose. Is there a flip screen option in the S16 core? (I looked at it and did not find it...)
I followed directions and no issues here, will CPS2 updates come in a similar fashion? or will it go public at that point? Great work as always, I love classic Sega :)
This seems like a really streamlined appach. Thanks Jose, as usual you're doing an incredible job. I love that you bring a level of professionalism to your patreon that one would rarely expect from an open source project like Mister. Keep doing what you do so well mate!
So excited for Sega-16! The new beta delivery through the script is great too! Are you planning to add the CPS2 core to the beta download? It seems to download the MRA files, but not the core. The Sega-16 core does download through the script.
update all downloads beta.zip from the mame set, overwriting your beta unlocker. Also, no cps2 updates. (edit: I misunderstood the post, it's just for the sega core. Cps2 just needs old method still)
Thank you Jotego. SEGA System-16 is very special to many of us old-timers.
No cps2 added to your beta updater?
You've knocked it out of the park yet again. Thanks again Jotego!! .. Please go enjoy your weekend you disserve it.
Driving is surely dangerous in "Action Fighter"😱 Any news/progress about the bugs in CPS2 (namely GigaWing and Mars Matrix) that are still keeping you back from releasing the core to the public?
Amazing
amazing. great work jotego!
Just to be sure since I can't access Settings without changing my mister's video settings around, do I just need to add DOWNLOAD_BETA_CORES="true" to Scripts\update_jtcores.ini in order to get the MRA files?
I had to manually download the 4 new .mras from the jtbin and then run the update_all to get everything in the proper places.
Working great on the MiST
Great work as usual. Thanks JT
I’m good to go now. Again was so excited I forgot to enable the beta option in the Jotego Updater (which was enabled). Al good. Thank you so much!!!
That was it. Missed that settings. Was too excited lol. Thank you Bruno!
Great stuff! Appreciate all your work on this, thanks!!!
thank you for all the hard work! Ran update_all after putting the beta.zip in games/mame. The only thing that shows is Shinobi when I go to arcade/organized/core/jts16. None of the new .mra's or new .rbf core file downloaded. Everything is enabled properly in the update_all script too. Any ideas? Anyone else having this issue?
Did you set up the beta downloads in the update_all? I have no ideas other than that.
As I don't use update_all, I prefer the old way. I only had to download 1 zip file, now I have to download each mra and rbf files.
I have added a single zip for you, both to the Patreon post and to #beta-files channel in Discord. I hope that helps. I agree that it's better to keep the zip file distribution too for users in your situation
Thank you for the amazing work and good luck to the new hire! Great job on the new way to distribute the betas!
Ha - great :) - appreciated! Cheers!
Weekend saved. Rain announced for weekend here in Germania, as always :) But now nothing can happen. Yee-haw!
Amazing, cant wait to try! Thanks again!
All working here! Thanks!
Fantastic and thank you!!
YAY
Yes!
Thank you for all you do Jotego! Good luck to the new hire!
Amazing stuff as always! Thank you!
Yay!