Dieselnoi Discussing the 123 Greatest Fighters of Thailand: A Tour Through History (public, 1 hr, 13 min)
Video above, be sure to turn on English Subtitles. English transcript is also at the bottom of the article. You can watch our Muay Thai Bones podcast here (for free), or listen and download the episodes as a patron here.
There is nothing like this on the internet and, quite frankly, was nothing like it in the world until we filmed it. We publish this kind of historical material for everyone, available to the public, but it is made with patron support. We actually shot this "interview" walk through history 4 years ago and only now have been able to make it publishable; it's so wonderful. This is the "123 All-Time Greatest Fighters of Thailand" book, a collection that spans from Pon, the first Western Boxing Champion, through the Silver and Golden Ages of Muay Thai and into recognizable contemporary names. We sat down with Dieselnoi to have him thumb through and comment on each fighter, as we really only recognized the last maybe 3rd of the fighters and he's from the late Silver Age, early Golden Age, but has references to well before himself. This is oral history, the kind that gets lost. Keep in mind, also, Dieselnoi is being very candid here, talking the way he would talk among friends. If he is dismissive or critical of a fighter or a style, this is just the way he sees things as part of the continual back and forth arguments among fighters of his day. The interview lets us see into the history of Muay Thai like no other. Don't let it jar you, what we in the English language know about Muay Thai fighters is mostly very presented. Thais think and talk about fighters in a very animated and sometimes harsh way. Even good friends are bantered about. One of the beautful things about Diesenoi is how open he is as his heart beats for Muay Thai.
This is the book Dieselnoi is looking at, you can find photographic copies here
A quick detour: If you happen to not know who Dieselnoi is, he is arguably the King of Muay Khao style (pressure knee fighting) and was undefeated for 4 straight years at Lumpinee Stadium during the most competitive and high level era of Muay Thai. He was 135lb Lumpinee Champion, 1982 Fighter of the Year, and ultimately was forced to retire at a still young age due to lack of opponents. He then became a trainer of 2 of the Golden Age's most accomplished Muay Khao fighters: Panomtuanlek and Chamuakpet Hapalang (both became Fighter of the Year). Dieselnoi is one of the most loved, most feared fighters in Thailand's history and remains a pillar of the Muay Thai community.
It took us a while to do this properly. We wanted to edit in all the photos of profiles so it's easier to follow along even if you don't have the book (just hit pause on the video to see), but also to get it properly translated. My Thai had to improve so I could proof the translation. Dieselnoi's way of speaking is unique and sometimes even Thais don't understand him. With the help of patrons and improvement in my own fluency we've finally been able to publish it how we hoped.
Kevin and I decided to film a mini Muay Thai Bones type intro to really give context to this documentary, because you have to understand not only what it is but its rarity and impact as well. Dieselnoi is such a remarkable man, such an important figure in Muay Thai, and above all of that his personality, humor, and virtues all come through a lot. There is so much in this interview. Information about great fighters you never heard of, small stories about famous fighters or match ups nobody knows. The way that older fighters of the Golden Age of Muay Thai viewed each other, and different styles, and also fighters of today, and just the energy and passion of Dieselnoi himself.
Thank you to my patrons who make this kind of documentary project possible. If you enjoy interviews with greats you can also check out all the other interview projects we've done under the Legend's Speak tag here.
As mentioned, the only way I know for sure to get the 123 book is from the Thai Smai store in Bangkok. I have heard that people have been able to get it mailed to them via email, but it may come slowly. Here is their website. For those who can't get the book we put up photographs of the profiles on the Roundtable forum here. If you love Muay Thai history it's worth getting, it's a great book.
All the Dieselnoi in the Preserve The Legacy Project
We've been blessed by being able to film with an document Dieselnoi in several ways, a living history of the greatness of a by-gone era of Muay Thai, enjoy those sessions, interviews and discussions of techniques below. It's been amazing to bring him forward to the English speaking world, and have everyone know how incredible a person he is:
listen to the above podcast here
watch the above interview here
listen to the above podcast here
you can watch Dieselnoi commentate on his legendary fight vs Samart Payakaroon here
watch this incredible Muay Thai Library session with Dieselnoi teaching how to fight his style
Dieselnoi preparing fighters for Lumpinee, a mini-doc
watch this mini-documentary following Dieselnoi helping train a Thai fighter for fights
me talking about Dieselnoi's up close low kick in the clinch
above, me talking about Dieselnoi's "air knees" as a training and conditioning technique
above, watch this wonderful Muay Thai library session, Dieselnoi teaching his techniques and ethic
My interview of Dieselnoi on the state of Muay Thai
This incredible seminar over two days included 4 legends of Muay Thai, watch it here
my article on when I first met Dieselnoi
watch the 2nd Muay Thai Library session with Dieselnoi here
Dieselnoi teaches both Ring Strategies and how to train
The English Transcript for the 123 Interview is here:
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This one is from the past.
I got to fight him.
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Do you know how old he was
when he fought me?
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He was 32. I was 16.
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He was the same age as P'Moo. [Pudpadnoi]
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I was a baby. He was already champion.
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Let me show you something.
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This person is the previous generation.
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I never saw him fight.
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This one is Suk Prasarthinpimai.
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He is a legend of Muay Thai.
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He could fight even at 50 years old.
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50?
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Yes. That's Suk Prasarthinpimai.
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He went to jail.
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In Thailand,
fighters were not famous in the past.
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He got out of jail and continued to fight.
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Did many fighters have tattoos in the past?
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It was common in the past.
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In the past,
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people didn't like fighters because
of they were like gangsters.
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They were misbehaving young men.
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So it was common to have a lot of tattoos.
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This person was good.
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I didn't watch his matches.
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But I know his biography.
Chuchai Prakhanchai.
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He was good looking.
He was also a movie actor.
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I didn't see these people fight.
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He was really strong.
Nobody could knock him out.
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never been knocked out?
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never lost by knock out
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Nickname was Yangton [rubber tree]
His name was Thongbai Yontarakit.
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Nobody could knock him out.
He punched a lot. Very strong.
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A puncher, accurate.
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Usaman was good.
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I never saw him fight.
But the other ones were more famous.
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Prayuth was really good and very skilled.
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Prayuth
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- There was no TV in the past.
- No
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- Did you know them from reading?
- No, they were before I was born.
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These people?
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Older people knew them.
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Yes exactly.
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He was probably reincarnated.
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He is re-born already by now.
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This one is also good.
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He did Western style boxing
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and also Muay Thai.
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He was very good at Western style boxing.
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Adul Srisothorn was really
good and had good skill.
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good skill, Femeu
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oh he could knee really high.
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In the past
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fighters didn't retreat.
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attack only
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If any fighter retreated,
the audience would reject them.
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Samart and other people
would be kicked out, before.
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These people are old.
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This one Ravee
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He attacked only.
People always shouted "Ravee Ravee".
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Ravee['s name] came to mean "attack".
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Do you understand?
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When people fight,
it's called Ravee.
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When he fought in the ring
people shouted "Ravee Ravee".
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His name is Ravee.
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His kick was hard.
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- Apidej kicked hard.
- yes hard kick.
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He kicked left and very hard.
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But he didn't have a fighter's heart.
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- really?
- that's true.
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But he was good.
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He was left handed, right?
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Both of them fought 11 times.
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He is still alive, very old and forgetful.
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He and I went for an event.
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I told him "you forgot your phone."
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He always forgets things.
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I don't know this person.
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Since I started fighting...
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Muangsurin. It was an old gym, wasn't it?
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Yes old. The gym is closed.
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Payap and these people are old.
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Here
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Since I started fighting,
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Thongbai was very strong.
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He was very durable.
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Anantasak is still alive.
I never fought with him.
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Den was average.
Anantasak and Den were average.
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Khongdej had strong left kick.
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He was from Chonburi.
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His nickname was Chalam. [shark]
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Thonburi gym?
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Loogbangprasroy, old gym
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This person passed away.
His punch was very strong.
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His punch was hard.
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His opponent always fell
after being punched.
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This person was strong too.
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His left punch was very strong.
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Bantamweight
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- I like him. He was very good.
- oh Sirimongkol
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He was left-handed.
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Fahsai was good.
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This is P'Cheep [Wichannoi]. So good.
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This person was average.
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This one was also average.
This one.
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Since I started fighting...
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- Wichannoi. He is older than you.
- Yes
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In Bangkok,
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I never lost to anyone.
He was the first person who defeated me.
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When he defeated me,
the stadium gave him a gold weight 5 Baht. [76 grams, about $1700 in 1980]
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- 5 Baht?
- Because I never lost to anyone.
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He defeated me.
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How old were you when you fought him?
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He was in his 30's. I was 16.
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in his 30's?
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It was a decision loss, right?
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Points for the first fight, it was a close fight.
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The second fight was very hard, he rung me and I was dizzy.
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His techniques were excellent.
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You were a baby.
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He never lost to any tall fighter.
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Do you what his weakness was?
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It was left kicks.
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He lost to this person.
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He fought all of them here.
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He fought with these people.
But I didn't. I was younger.
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He lost to this person.
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He lost this one.
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He lost to a fighter with a good left kick.
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He could not move.
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He lost to left handed fighter.
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Any tall fighters
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who wanted to knee him always failed.
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His punch
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He didn't use this part to punch.
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When the opponent came
in, he would punch with his forearm.
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Then he hit back here, behind the ear.
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- got dizzy?
- yes of course.
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very good
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I admit that he was good.
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Saensak was very strong.
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World Champion
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- World Champion [WBC World Boxing Champion]
- World Champion
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lightweight
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He was a world champion.
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- Muay Thai?
- He was amazing there too. Famous for Muay Thai.
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His punch was strong in Muay Thai.
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He was asked to do
Western boxing and was champion in that.
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And he got the world champion title.
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When he came back,
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they wanted me to fight him.
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But he was 140 lbs. I was only 128 lbs.
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Couldn't work out.
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This person was very skilled.
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Like Samart, he always retreated.
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Never "dern"
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My kru is 45 years old.
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He grabbed the rope.
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Then kicked my head and yelled "Poot Lorlek", like he's famous for this.
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He was good at doing this.
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- This was allowed before, right?
- Yes
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He didn't hold the rope.
He just leaned on the rope and kicked.
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- This is P'Moo.
- Pudpadnoi
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He runs away also, but I like him. His left kick was strong.
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- Is he a good person?
- Yes
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He has a fighter's heart.
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He never gave up and kicked hard.
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What's his style?
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A Kicker. When the opponent came at him he was not afraid.
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He kicked left very hard.
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He didn't like knees.
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Nobody likes knees.
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This person had a puncher's style [Muay Maat].
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This is Bantamweight.
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The number one light flyweight.
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His punch was strong.
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This person was Samart's trainer.
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He used to fight with me.
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Daotong. His nickname is Jim.
He was good.
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He was Muay Khao.
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He was pretty good. Knee style.
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But he was not famous for long.
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He was too lazy to train.
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How old was he when he retired?
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If you have knee style
but don't train enough,
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you won't last long.
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Because knee style requires strength.
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If you are too lazy to train, you won't
have any strength. You can't fight.
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Muay Khao
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Do you know Archan Chalee? Pareuhatlek...
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He is a teacher of physical education.
This is his elder brother.
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He was in Bantamweight.
He was very good.
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left kick, left punch
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- Is Paruhautlek his student?
- No, younger brother.
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This person used to fight me.
He was older. He was good.
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He lives in America now.
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oh he was number one with elbows.
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very good
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He was quite famous.
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Samersigngh. He was an elbow fighter [Muay Sok].
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Look look here
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This person
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He didn't just close in.
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Here, he'd grab and-
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would yank down first.
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His nickname was Khun Khao Nuclear [Mr. Nuclear Knee].
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Very strong. Nuclear
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Very strong
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His nickname was Khun Khao Nuclear.
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His joints were very strong.
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He was slow but kneed very hard.
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very hard
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He was Femeu.
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Similar to Samart, left kick, good looking.
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This person too.
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Jockey was pure knee style.
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It was "jump and knee"
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-Wide, yeah, jump and knee
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His nickname was
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Khun Khao Palang Ma. [Horsepower Knee]
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He was very strong.
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got hit but nothing
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very strong
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His nickname was Manuthin. [Stone Man]
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He was Femeu.
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Very smart. Left kicks.
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- backward techniques
- yes yes
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Both of them were quite
similar in techniques.
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kick and retreat
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He fought for a long time.
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This person lives abroard.
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This person and I
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had the same style. But he was better.
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He used to fight with me
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for Yod Khun Khao title. [Best Knee Fighter title]
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He was rich but old at that time.
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He was good. He was tall. Had all the weapons.
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He fought with 3 Janpanese fighters
who lined up to fight.
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- Were both of you the same height?
- Yes
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At one point, he didn't have any opponents.
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just like me
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He had 2-3 people to fight with him.
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But he fell over easily.
0:31:03.808,0:31:07.656
This person kicked left and punched left.
0:31:13.178,0:31:16.204
He also kicked left and punched left.
He was very fast.
0:31:17.044,0:31:19.436
But he also danced back.
0:31:20.370,0:31:21.594
annoying, right?
0:31:22.252,0:31:23.740
I was not afraid of him.
0:31:23.740,0:31:24.796
This person was good.
0:31:24.796,0:31:26.103
He is Narongnoi.
0:31:26.751,0:31:28.434
He came from Ayutthaya.
0:31:28.812,0:31:31.931
He is in a coma now.
0:31:32.700,0:31:34.603
It's been around 10 years. He just sleeps.
0:31:34.603,0:31:37.516
He is still alive but in a coma.
0:31:38.543,0:31:42.014
How do you call?
0:31:44.999,0:31:47.230
He was a good fighter
with strong right kick.
0:31:47.230,0:31:49.526
I got a bruise from his punch.
0:31:49.526,0:31:50.659
His kick was very strong.
0:31:50.659,0:31:52.314
strong punch, strong kick.
0:31:54.664,0:31:56.288
He was another fighter with techniques.
0:31:57.142,0:31:58.982
Another skilled fighter.
0:31:58.982,0:32:02.554
You started with Nongkhai, right?
0:32:02.554,0:32:03.909
When I was young, I was tall.
0:32:03.909,0:32:07.883
I fought with everyone -
Nongkhai, Narongnoi, Posai.
0:32:09.136,0:32:10.855
I never fought with Jitti.
0:32:10.855,0:32:12.143
I fought with most of them.
0:32:15.174,0:32:17.941
For more senior fighters,
I had to wai them after the fight.
0:32:17.941,0:32:19.906
I wai to everyone, they were all my seniors.
0:32:19.906,0:32:21.421
You know Sagat.
0:32:26.095,0:32:28.237
This person was also good.
0:32:28.237,0:32:30.015
He had so many weapons
0:32:30.015,0:32:33.576
- knees, technical, and elbows.
0:32:33.576,0:32:35.925
- He fought with me 5 times.
- Did he have strong weapons?
0:32:35.925,0:32:40.564
He had everything, not only techniques.
He was also fast.
0:32:42.649,0:32:44.903
His elbow technique was pretty good.
0:32:48.300,0:32:49.505
We fought 5 times.
0:32:49.505,0:32:51.649
Before the 1st time we fought,
0:32:51.649,0:32:53.303
he had received the Royal Cup,
0:32:53.303,0:32:55.630
and I hadn't lost to
anyone except Wichannoi.
0:32:55.630,0:32:57.733
There was a huge audience for that first fight. [with Padejseuk]
0:32:57.733,0:33:02.034
In round 4, I was ahead.
0:33:02.766,0:33:05.254
He hit my head. I was full of blood.
0:33:05.254,0:33:07.433
The crowd yelled "Cruel!".
0:33:08.090,0:33:09.702
I led by a lot of points.
0:33:09.702,0:33:12.175
The referee stopped and
asked a doctor to check.
0:33:12.175,0:33:14.035
I showed the wound to the doctor.
0:33:15.098,0:33:18.294
The doctor allowed it to continue.
This was the end of round 3.
0:33:19.088,0:33:21.643
In round 4, I attacked so hard that
0:33:21.643,0:33:24.317
he pressed the wound with his hand.
0:33:24.317,0:33:26.407
Audience yelled "Cruel!".
0:33:26.407,0:33:29.607
There was less than 1 minutue left.
0:33:30.363,0:33:31.498
"Stop"
0:33:31.498,0:33:33.414
The doctor checked and
didn't allow to continue.
0:33:46.289,0:33:49.528
The doctor didn't allow the fight to go on.
0:33:49.528,0:33:53.471
My corner was upset
because I almost won.
0:33:53.471,0:33:56.601
He went to the doctor.
The doctor shaved my head.
0:33:56.601,0:33:59.387
The wound was so small.
0:33:59.784,0:34:03.373
I was brought back to the ring to show, my manager was still so mad an hour later.
0:34:03.373,0:34:05.423
- You were bleeding a lot, right?
- That's right.
0:34:05.423,0:34:08.273
There were so many police
and soliders at the ring.
0:34:08.273,0:34:10.861
My supervisor didn't care
about any conflict and trouble.
0:34:13.933,0:34:16.700
The next morning,
0:34:16.700,0:34:18.195
it was stated on the front page of Thai Rath [biggest Thai newspaper]
0:34:19.178,0:34:21.980
"Ratchadamnern almost in chaos
0:34:21.980,0:34:24.417
from Muay Thai match between
Dieselnoi and Padejseuk"
0:34:24.500,0:34:26.574
Do you remember how many stitches you got?
0:34:26.574,0:34:28.059
- no stitches
- no stitches?
0:34:30.098,0:34:31.701
That was cheating, no?
0:34:31.701,0:34:33.194
Not cheating
0:34:33.194,0:34:35.121
I was young.
0:34:36.597,0:34:39.063
The doctor that checked on me
0:34:39.063,0:34:40.323
was not a real doctor.
0:34:40.323,0:34:43.157
He was a male nurse.
0:34:43.982,0:34:47.533
If we sued the stadium, we would have
been compensated millions of baht.
0:34:48.363,0:34:51.121
In the end, Hia Lao [Dieselnoi's manager] announced
that we would rematch.
0:34:51.646,0:34:54.269
We fought 4 times after that.
0:34:54.269,0:34:56.481
How old were you on the first match?
0:34:56.481,0:34:57.927
15-16?
0:34:57.927,0:34:59.365
You mean when I fought with him?
0:34:59.365,0:35:00.696
I was around 16 years old.
0:35:00.696,0:35:02.510
- around 16 years old
- You were young.
0:35:02.510,0:35:03.524
still young.
0:35:04.115,0:35:05.475
ah, we know him!
0:35:07.665,0:35:09.341
I fought with him 3 times.
0:35:09.991,0:35:11.779
3 times with him
0:35:11.779,0:35:15.812
In these 3 times, I only fought with him.
0:35:16.330,0:35:20.007
At that time, he was older and more famous.
0:35:20.007,0:35:22.347
But I surpassed him.
0:35:22.806,0:35:24.045
I didn't have any opponents.
0:35:24.045,0:35:25.638
He fought with me.
0:35:25.638,0:35:27.723
I only fought with him.
0:35:27.723,0:35:30.334
I won by knock out the 1st time.
I hit his chin.
0:35:30.334,0:35:34.236
Then he defeated Wichannoi
four months later.
0:35:34.236,0:35:35.940
He arranged to fight with me again.
0:35:35.940,0:35:37.080
no one wanted to see it
0:35:38.101,0:35:39.947
Audience said
0:35:39.947,0:35:42.443
they didn't want to watch
because he couldn't beat me.
0:35:43.227,0:35:45.032
The tickets
0:35:45.032,0:35:48.699
There were 12 fighters that day.
But audience only bet on me.
0:35:49.701,0:35:52.349
When we did Wai Kru, I already led in the odds by
0:35:52.349,0:35:53.955
a 4:1 bet.
0:35:54.391,0:35:56.191
4000 to 1000
0:35:56.191,0:35:57.743
During the Ram Muay, already 4:1
0:35:57.743,0:35:59.649
I led. That was only Wai Kru.
0:36:01.615,0:36:02.800
I was careless this time.
0:36:02.800,0:36:04.539
I thought that I knocked
him out last time.
0:36:04.539,0:36:06.195
So I went out at night with Chamuakpet.
0:36:06.195,0:36:08.451
And I didn't train much.
0:36:09.190,0:36:12.279
Nothing much in round 1.
0:36:12.279,0:36:13.714
In round 2, I was like...
0:36:14.849,0:36:16.567
When I closed in, I kneed him lightly.
0:36:16.567,0:36:17.777
But he hit back...
0:36:18.535,0:36:22.307
He hit me here.
My legs were weak all the sudden.
0:36:23.034,0:36:25.096
I thought "you are serious now?"
0:36:25.096,0:36:28.170
I came again to knee right.
He struck back and I fell.
0:36:28.170,0:36:29.481
So he won by knock out.
0:36:31.062,0:36:34.294
When he hit me here,
I couldn't see anything anymore.
0:36:34.932,0:36:36.508
I was dizzy.
0:36:37.404,0:36:39.622
If I was hit close to
the red corner here,
0:36:39.622,0:36:42.242
I was so dizzy and walked around the entire ring.
0:36:43.847,0:36:46.318
I only heard the crowd jeering "hey hey hey".
0:36:46.318,0:36:47.978
But I couldn't see anything.
0:36:50.475,0:36:53.378
That was the first time in
my life I lost by knock out.
0:36:55.014,0:36:57.680
When I came down, somebody massaged me.
I didn't feel anything.
0:36:57.998,0:37:01.159
There was another fight after me.
0:37:01.159,0:37:03.076
I was so out, I didn't know where I was, I argued for them to let me keep fighting
0:37:04.523,0:37:06.620
When somebody told me I
lost my knock out, I cried.
0:37:06.620,0:37:07.787
I was sad.
0:37:07.787,0:37:09.628
We had another match not long after.
0:37:09.628,0:37:11.356
Did you remember
anything after the match?
0:37:11.356,0:37:13.085
Did you remember
anything after the match?
0:37:13.085,0:37:15.216
- You couldn't remember anything?
- No I couldn't.
0:37:15.216,0:37:16.956
First time in my life
0:37:16.956,0:37:18.712
The 3rd match was not long after.
0:37:19.295,0:37:21.549
It was for the 135 lb Lumpini title.
0:37:21.549,0:37:23.628
I beat him easily this time.
0:37:23.628,0:37:26.975
I was afraid to chase him down this time.
0:37:26.975,0:37:31.148
I only teep and kicked.
He couldn't land a punch on me.
0:37:32.230,0:37:33.625
So you won the final match.
0:37:36.886,0:37:39.161
This person had a strong punch.
0:37:39.161,0:37:40.330
Raktae
0:37:40.330,0:37:43.530
I fought with him.
0:37:44.150,0:37:47.463
This the story...
The day before our fight...
0:37:47.463,0:37:48.769
He went to the stadium.
0:37:48.769,0:37:52.044
- everything I am telling you was
already in the biography -
0:37:55.365,0:37:58.357
They asked him.
0:37:58.357,0:38:00.119
"Are you afraid to
fight with Dieselnoi?"
0:38:00.850,0:38:02.063
Do you know what he answered?
0:38:02.063,0:38:03.563
He actually fought in
higher weight class than me.
0:38:03.563,0:38:05.436
He fought 135. I fought then 130.
0:38:05.436,0:38:07.190
But we fought at 133.
0:38:07.190,0:38:09.884
He answered that yes he was afraid. "Glua krap"
0:38:09.884,0:38:11.699
He was afraid that I would only retreat.
0:38:12.064,0:38:13.944
He said he was afraid
that I would only retreat.
0:38:13.944,0:38:16.110
I was so mad that he said that.
When they asked me about it,
0:38:16.538,0:38:19.473
I said the person who retreated
would be fined 10,000 baht per step backwards.
0:38:21.030,0:38:23.097
10,000 baht per step back.
0:38:23.097,0:38:27.286
When the fight started.
I grabbed, struck and kneed immediately.
0:38:32.180,0:38:33.518
It was a fun match.
0:38:34.619,0:38:36.059
He hit me.
0:38:36.059,0:38:39.024
When he reached me, I grabbed like this [snuffing his punches].
0:38:39.752,0:38:41.596
I kneed and kneed again.
0:38:41.596,0:38:43.489
He tried to push me off.
0:38:43.489,0:38:45.416
But he couldn't because I then would grab his neck.
0:38:45.416,0:38:47.044
His arms were tied up.
How could he push me?
0:38:51.160,0:38:53.092
He couldn't punch. So he elbowed instead.
0:38:53.418,0:38:56.176
He hit me many times around my face.
0:38:56.824,0:38:59.702
I stayed close to him.
0:38:59.702,0:39:01.312
When we were in round 3,
0:39:01.312,0:39:02.988
he told me "hey, enough already, it hurts".
0:39:04.234,0:39:05.869
- 5 rounds in total?
- Yes
0:39:05.869,0:39:07.918
I told him "If it hurts, don't come close."
0:39:07.918,0:39:10.048
At the beginning of round
5, he punched my face hard.
0:39:10.048,0:39:11.142
I pushed him out.
0:39:11.142,0:39:13.494
My legs were shaking.
0:39:14.165,0:39:18.195
When he punched, I grabbed his neck.
0:39:18.195,0:39:19.841
I hit him hard many times.
0:39:19.841,0:39:22.628
He said "hey it hurts".
But I still hit him.
0:39:23.168,0:39:25.069
You can't do this to Dieselnoi.
0:39:26.409,0:39:28.175
I just hit hard.
0:39:29.046,0:39:31.320
He came to fight with me.
0:39:31.320,0:39:32.748
I already retired.
0:39:34.401,0:39:37.578
I didn't have much time for training.
0:39:37.578,0:39:39.542
I only trained around
1 month for this match.
0:39:39.542,0:39:41.062
I admitted that I was really tired.
0:39:41.062,0:39:45.043
I thought I had lost but it was a draw.
0:39:45.043,0:39:46.427
But I was really tired.
0:39:46.427,0:39:49.367
I rested in my corner during the break.
I was exhausted.
0:39:49.367,0:39:51.658
My body was numb all over.
0:39:51.658,0:39:53.429
I tried to knee but there was no power.
0:39:53.429,0:39:55.732
I just lifted my leg for nothing.
I was too tired.
0:39:55.732,0:39:58.784
When we were done, the crowd complained.
We had a rematch right away.
0:39:58.784,0:40:01.333
I prepared well for the next match.
I didn't go out at all.
0:40:01.333,0:40:03.496
I trained non-stop.
0:40:03.496,0:40:06.199
I thought apart from him,
I wouldn't have any opponent.
0:40:07.069,0:40:09.397
Thinking about my career at its end.
0:40:09.397,0:40:11.651
I didn't have any matches
for 3 months or 8 months.
0:40:11.651,0:40:12.959
After I fought with Samart,
0:40:12.959,0:40:14.898
I stopped fighting for 1 year and 6 months.
0:40:14.898,0:40:17.374
- 6 months?
- No, 1 year and 6 months!
0:40:17.763,0:40:19.600
No matches at all.
0:40:19.600,0:40:21.507
After that I fought with Sagat.
0:40:21.507,0:40:23.599
But I didn't go anywhere. I only trained.
0:40:23.599,0:40:26.109
I trained so much that I cried.
0:40:26.109,0:40:29.109
I ran and cried.
0:40:29.109,0:40:31.017
No money. No place to go.
0:40:31.017,0:40:33.419
When I fought with this guy [the rematch with Krongsak],
I only trained.
0:40:33.419,0:40:36.185
I won the second fight easily.
0:40:36.185,0:40:39.559
After I won, I was like ...
0:40:39.559,0:40:42.172
- Are you younger than him?
- No same age.
0:40:56.297,0:41:00.959
I thought if I defeated him [Krongsak],
how long I have to wait for another fight?
0:41:01.806,0:41:05.306
My body was not in a good shape anymore.
That's when I decided to retire.
0:41:06.924,0:41:08.750
I trained but no opponents.
0:41:09.389,0:41:11.936
It was that I had to retire by default.
0:41:12.428,0:41:16.011
- Trained hard for nothing.
- yes it just disappeared.
0:41:16.011,0:41:18.422
It was like the training
was for Chamuakpet and Panomtuanlek.
0:41:19.727,0:41:21.499
He was in higher weight class. Pretty good.
0:41:21.499,0:41:23.542
strong left kick.
0:41:24.663,0:41:27.069
He liked teep. He only teeped.
0:41:27.069,0:41:29.698
These people were average.
0:41:29.698,0:41:31.045
Muay teep
0:41:31.561,0:41:33.609
average average
0:41:33.609,0:41:36.209
This person was pretty good.
0:41:36.592,0:41:41.009
He was skilled with a strong
kick and good tactics.
0:41:41.009,0:41:42.596
He was afraid of me.
0:41:43.403,0:41:46.254
He was about to fight with me many times.
0:41:46.254,0:41:49.559
But he told others that he didn't
want to because he was afraid.
0:41:52.235,0:41:53.777
He was afraid.
0:41:53.777,0:41:56.250
If he was not afraid,
he would have been quite dangerous.
0:41:56.250,0:41:58.552
He had strong kick, knees and punches.
0:41:59.795,0:42:02.576
He didn't like to be kneed though.
0:42:07.136,0:42:10.403
He used to train with me.
0:42:10.403,0:42:13.223
I was already retired.
But they asked me to train with him.
0:42:13.639,0:42:16.764
He was not so good.
Yank him in the clinch just a little and he went flying.
0:42:27.725,0:42:29.744
Oh this person.
0:42:29.744,0:42:31.499
Vicious. Very hard to fight.
0:42:35.422,0:42:37.264
Back always against the rope.
0:42:38.627,0:42:39.774
very difficult to punch.
0:42:41.994,0:42:43.824
Sakornpitak gym
0:42:44.096,0:42:45.670
had a lot of good fighters like
0:42:45.670,0:42:47.804
Pannoi. They were very good.
0:42:48.635,0:42:52.045
When you fight with these people,
you can't just stand there.
0:42:53.308,0:42:54.731
They always stayed close to you.
0:42:54.731,0:42:56.494
- all 5 rounds, right?
- Yes 5 rounds.
0:42:56.494,0:42:59.122
You can't stop because they
will kick you right away.
0:43:00.021,0:43:02.112
Oh this one. I like him.
0:43:02.112,0:43:04.155
Of all Muay Mat,
I like him the best.
0:43:04.155,0:43:06.145
- Have you watched him?
- Never.
0:43:07.202,0:43:10.791
I've seen a lot of punching fighters.
This one was good.
0:43:10.791,0:43:13.164
Do you know how he punched?
0:43:13.164,0:43:15.432
Once the round started, he closed in.
0:43:16.181,0:43:18.244
He was kicked but never even blocked.
0:43:18.646,0:43:22.646
The opponent kicked him. He was fine.
Once the opponent stopped, he punched.
0:43:23.152,0:43:24.371
heavy strikes
0:43:26.729,0:43:28.830
But he misbehaved.
0:43:28.830,0:43:32.047
He liked to bet on horses, was accused of throwing fights.
0:43:32.047,0:43:33.987
But his punches were strong.
0:43:34.857,0:43:37.485
He wouldn't be able to punch Samart.
Samart would keep retreating.
0:43:37.485,0:43:41.417
If he tried to punch Samart,
Samart would just stay away.
0:43:41.417,0:43:43.267
A very strong punch.
0:43:44.263,0:43:46.697
He is the only Muay Mat fighter I like.
0:43:48.916,0:43:51.191
Think about it.
0:43:51.191,0:43:53.233
Others have teeps and punches.
0:43:53.233,0:43:54.610
He didn't. He only had...
0:43:55.677,0:43:58.842
He kept coming!
He didn't care about being kicked.
0:43:58.842,0:44:01.555
- He didn't care.
- right. He only guarded himself here.
0:44:01.555,0:44:03.701
Once the opponent stopped, he would punch.
0:44:04.319,0:44:06.498
He was confident in his punch.
0:44:07.333,0:44:08.857
yeh very strong.
0:44:18.132,0:44:20.122
Why did they put him here?
0:44:21.378,0:44:22.854
He was not well-known. No name.
0:44:24.586,0:44:25.933
Why is he in this book then?
0:44:25.933,0:44:27.424
Probably money.
0:44:30.016,0:44:31.560
oh this one was a playboy.
0:44:32.471,0:44:34.267
We trained together.
0:44:34.267,0:44:35.534
Jomwo
0:44:35.534,0:44:36.943
His rhythm was good.
He was smart.
0:44:36.943,0:44:38.709
But he was extremely lazy in training.
0:44:39.306,0:44:41.517
He was called "playboy".
0:44:44.722,0:44:46.905
But his kick was good and strong.
0:44:50.392,0:44:51.779
He was fast.
0:44:51.779,0:44:54.427
He fought and could knock out Samart.
0:44:55.170,0:44:57.311
oh he was very quick to
come in and go back.
0:44:57.311,0:44:59.670
You think Samart was fast.
This guy was faster.
0:45:00.937,0:45:03.365
Samart never chased anyone.
But he had to chase him.
0:45:03.365,0:45:04.985
He was very quick.
0:45:05.558,0:45:08.040
But his gym owner didn't
give him a lot of money.
0:45:09.134,0:45:10.587
So he would fix fights.
0:45:14.799,0:45:16.597
He was very skilled.
0:45:19.299,0:45:21.474
Kong. He was very good.
0:45:21.949,0:45:23.679
Both Samart and Kong
0:45:23.679,0:45:25.814
They started fighting before I did.
0:45:25.814,0:45:28.698
I went to see them fight. They started
fighting since they were young.
0:45:28.698,0:45:30.037
They started young.
0:45:30.645,0:45:32.510
Both Samart and Kongthoranee
0:45:32.510,0:45:34.807
started young. They fought in temples.
0:45:34.807,0:45:37.775
They went around from
one temple to another.
0:45:38.425,0:45:41.052
They were good.
They started fighting at young age.
0:45:41.683,0:45:43.749
I went to see their matches.
0:45:43.749,0:45:45.698
Samart always retreated.
0:45:50.794,0:45:57.118
Samart, Kongtoranee, Bangklanoi
0:45:57.118,0:45:59.339
All 3 of them started fighting
when they were young.
0:45:59.339,0:46:00.528
This person was also good.
0:46:00.528,0:46:02.656
Samart never defeated Bangklanoi,
0:46:03.141,0:46:05.054
when they were young.
0:46:05.054,0:46:08.710
Bangklanoi never defeated
Kongtoranee when they were young.
0:46:08.710,0:46:11.795
When they grew up and moved to Bangkok,
0:46:11.795,0:46:14.141
Bangklanoi was defeated by Samart,
0:46:14.141,0:46:15.946
but defeated Kongtoranee.
0:46:18.337,0:46:20.780
Bangklanoi couldn't beat
Kongtoranee when they were young.
0:46:20.780,0:46:23.920
[I didn't follow this at the time]
0:46:24.635,0:46:26.871
Samart couldn't beat Bangklanoi
when they were young.
0:46:26.871,0:46:29.600
But Bangklanoi couldn't beat
Samart when they were adult.
0:46:29.600,0:46:31.797
Was Kongtoranee a bit shorter?
0:46:31.797,0:46:34.657
No they were the same height,
0:46:34.657,0:46:36.420
and same weight.
0:46:37.035,0:46:39.195
I trained him.
0:46:39.195,0:46:41.502
- Chamuakpet.
- Hapalang
0:46:41.502,0:46:43.871
I trained him.
0:46:43.871,0:46:45.753
I trained at the gym.
0:46:46.413,0:46:48.171
He came to see me.
0:46:48.575,0:46:52.383
I also gambled. So we asked kids to fight.
0:46:52.383,0:46:54.825
We got different kids to fight.
0:46:54.825,0:46:56.516
He was kicked.
He cried and went home.
0:46:56.516,0:46:57.801
But he came back the next day.
0:46:57.801,0:46:58.882
why?
0:46:58.882,0:47:00.595
He was very young.
0:47:07.069,0:47:08.797
Why did you go to Hapalang gym?
0:47:08.797,0:47:10.115
What?
0:47:10.115,0:47:12.678
You went to Hapalang gym.
0:47:12.678,0:47:14.348
Why did you go there?
0:47:14.348,0:47:16.153
I was bought.
0:47:17.055,0:47:20.410
My manager and Hapalang
owner were friends.
0:47:23.297,0:47:24.440
But I didn't go anywhere.
0:47:24.440,0:47:29.344
I was always with Sor Sirinan,
Hapalang, Sor Tanikul.
0:47:30.121,0:47:31.422
Just the name changes.
0:47:34.649,0:47:36.563
But I trained at the same location.
0:47:41.437,0:47:43.041
He was good at kicking the neck.
0:47:43.781,0:47:45.871
He was famous but not long.
0:47:45.871,0:47:48.629
He was good at kicking.
0:47:48.629,0:47:51.053
He was famous then he disappeared.
0:47:51.053,0:47:52.690
1-2 years
0:47:55.551,0:47:57.554
This person was pretty good.
0:48:02.214,0:48:03.971
He was older.
0:48:03.971,0:48:05.990
In the past, he was famous in Muay Thai.
0:48:05.990,0:48:07.315
Then he went to be an actor.
0:48:07.315,0:48:09.638
He misbehaved. He liked drinking.
0:48:09.638,0:48:13.040
He came back to fight again and was famous.
0:48:13.040,0:48:15.471
Then he disappeared again.
0:48:15.471,0:48:18.269
I didn't have any opponents.
They paid me to fight in Western boxing.
0:48:18.269,0:48:19.764
But I didn't do well.
0:48:21.061,0:48:22.875
This person was pretty
good and very skilled.
0:48:22.875,0:48:24.909
His weapons were very strong.
He was very skilled.
0:48:24.909,0:48:26.742
Sor Ploenjit gym has a
lot of good fighters, right?
0:48:26.742,0:48:28.218
Yes a lot.
0:48:28.922,0:48:31.715
He was quite good.
0:48:32.374,0:48:34.927
I think Ai Too was just average.
0:48:34.927,0:48:37.685
- You didn't like?
- I like him. He was just slow.
0:48:41.794,0:48:45.500
But he had a fighter's heart.
He was very committed.
0:48:45.500,0:48:48.862
But he was very slow.
0:48:50.310,0:48:51.458
This one...
0:48:51.458,0:48:54.146
His boxing posture didn't look good.
0:48:54.512,0:48:57.390
Not look good. But his arm...
0:48:58.092,0:49:00.735
Once he grabbed somebody,
that person wouldn't be able to move.
0:49:00.735,0:49:02.647
very strong
0:49:06.106,0:49:07.510
I trained him.
0:49:07.510,0:49:11.053
But he stopped because he didn't
receive much money in return.
0:49:12.853,0:49:14.572
He only got 20,000 baht at a time.
0:49:15.253,0:49:19.674
He trained hard but didn't get much money.
0:49:20.493,0:49:22.221
So he wanted to quit.
0:49:23.219,0:49:25.525
He didn't have a good manager.
0:49:26.973,0:49:28.571
His manager took too high a cut.
0:49:29.296,0:49:31.163
He was very skilled.
0:49:31.163,0:49:32.920
But he didn't have a fighter heart.
0:49:32.920,0:49:34.678
very skilled
0:49:34.678,0:49:37.518
These people were later generations.
0:49:37.518,0:49:41.018
This person was very
durable but not so smart.
0:49:42.076,0:49:44.299
I don't know if he knew
how to get back home.
0:49:44.650,0:49:48.286
very durable, "buffalo," dumb
0:49:48.286,0:49:50.280
He was good.
0:49:50.280,0:49:53.753
He was good but misbehaved.
0:49:53.753,0:49:56.137
When he became famous,
he misbehaved and went out.
0:49:56.137,0:49:58.086
He fixed the match often also.
0:50:01.901,0:50:03.511
His manager didn't give him money.
0:50:04.363,0:50:06.855
Langsuan was pretty good.
0:50:06.855,0:50:09.992
He had a good heart. His fights were exciting.
The audience liked him.
0:50:09.992,0:50:16.572
When he was young,
his grip was very strong.
0:50:17.324,0:50:21.841
Karuhut and Kaensak told me that it
was exhausting to fight with Langsuan.
0:50:24.486,0:50:28.821
He was a knee fighter
but he was not so clever.
0:50:29.743,0:50:31.039
Do you understand?
0:50:31.039,0:50:33.654
He didn't have techniques
like teep or shoves.
0:50:33.654,0:50:35.302
He just wanted to grab and knee.
0:50:35.302,0:50:38.000
How hard is it to walk in
and grab the opponent?
0:50:38.000,0:50:40.703
If your body is strong,
you will be ok to be hit.
0:50:40.703,0:50:43.418
Once you get older, you become weak.
0:50:43.418,0:50:46.166
Why was he named Taxi Meter?
0:50:46.939,0:50:49.151
Langsuan's gym name was Taxi Meter.
0:50:49.151,0:50:52.211
It might be the gyms' name.
0:50:52.211,0:50:55.627
Oh, no that was a sponsor.
0:51:00.062,0:51:02.762
This person, Chalam Cherry,
was not smart either.
0:51:03.711,0:51:06.216
This person was quite good.
0:51:06.216,0:51:08.716
He was good at left kick and left punch.
He was also smart.
0:51:09.491,0:51:14.063
Oh he was very very good.
He had good techniques.
0:51:14.460,0:51:20.062
He knew when to come in or retreat.
He was very good.
0:51:20.062,0:51:22.775
Sian was good too. [Karuhat]
0:51:23.231,0:51:25.503
This person...
0:51:26.450,0:51:29.160
his Muay Thai...
0:51:29.160,0:51:32.160
Why did they put him here? He fought in the Olympics, okay...
0:51:36.561,0:51:39.823
Burklerk was good. He had good weapons.
0:51:42.583,0:51:45.647
- This person...
- Was he ok?
0:51:45.647,0:51:47.472
He knew too much.
0:51:48.490,0:51:52.844
He was the only fighter who the gamblers didn't want to see him fight again after he was accused of throwing fights.
0:51:53.374,0:51:55.709
He always fought with
bigger fighters, right?
0:51:55.709,0:51:57.266
He fixed a fight.
0:51:59.755,0:52:03.967
He was the only one that the gamblers
didn't want him to fight again.
0:52:06.591,0:52:09.599
- Is there anyone...?
- What?
0:52:09.599,0:52:12.325
Was there any fighter who feared him?
0:52:12.325,0:52:16.856
Was there any fighter who
didn't want to fight him?
0:52:16.856,0:52:19.522
Everyone would fight.
0:52:19.522,0:52:22.665
Karuhat was a good and skilled fighter.
0:52:22.665,0:52:25.003
But he didn't like knees.
0:52:28.139,0:52:29.584
He liked something like this...
0:52:29.971,0:52:32.113
But he didn't like...
0:52:35.312,0:52:37.449
This person was good and skilled.
0:52:40.054,0:52:44.674
People said this person was good.
But I disagreed.
0:52:44.674,0:52:46.650
- He was not good?
- I think he was not good.
0:52:46.650,0:52:49.080
He had good punches.
0:52:49.080,0:52:52.535
He had strong weapons and
liked to take a risk.
0:52:52.535,0:52:55.155
But I don't feel that he was good.
0:52:55.155,0:52:58.515
- His matches were not fun to watch.
- Yes they were entertaining
0:52:58.515,0:52:59.773
But I think he took easy fights.
0:53:07.043,0:53:10.447
He was good and fast. He had good eyes.
But he liked to retreat all the time.
0:53:10.447,0:53:11.826
Look at Samart.
0:53:11.826,0:53:13.630
He retreated more than Samart.
0:53:13.630,0:53:15.672
His teep was very good.
0:53:19.152,0:53:22.580
He was good, skilled and fast.
0:53:25.957,0:53:27.785
He was fast.
0:53:27.785,0:53:29.033
He didn't like punches.
0:53:29.033,0:53:33.494
He fought with Somrak. Somrak punched and he was like... ran away
0:53:33.494,0:53:38.501
[I'm wrong here]
0:53:39.029,0:53:40.659
But he had good skills.
0:53:41.319,0:53:43.126
good skill.
0:53:43.126,0:53:45.590
But he retreated all the
time during the match.
0:53:46.855,0:53:49.753
His opponents would get a headache chasing him around.
0:53:50.655,0:53:52.670
This person was strong.
0:53:53.983,0:53:56.833
He was strong.
0:53:57.576,0:53:59.234
He was short.
0:54:00.465,0:54:02.394
quite strong.
0:54:02.957,0:54:04.816
This person had a good skill.
0:54:05.640,0:54:07.753
He didn't like punches.
0:54:08.363,0:54:11.146
He was not smart.
0:54:11.146,0:54:13.469
He was a knee fighter.
0:54:13.469,0:54:17.078
- Not smart.
- right, not smart. Might forget his way home.
0:54:18.432,0:54:21.790
This person was good.
0:54:21.790,0:54:25.206
- He had a fighter's heart. I liked him.
- yes
0:54:25.206,0:54:26.734
He was a good knee fighter.
0:54:26.734,0:54:29.985
He also had teeps, kicks, everything.
0:54:29.985,0:54:32.236
But he got cut easily.
0:54:32.236,0:54:36.593
I watched Nampol fight with Dekkers.
0:54:36.593,0:54:39.491
in Holland, not Thailand.
0:54:39.491,0:54:44.799
I thought Dekkers didn't win for sure.
0:54:44.799,0:54:48.522
But Mr. Songchai was a clever promoter.
0:54:50.182,0:54:52.364
This person was ok.
0:54:52.364,0:54:54.330
I think he was quite good.
0:54:57.880,0:55:00.650
This person was good. [Namkabuan]
0:55:00.650,0:55:03.720
He was also good at Muay Thai.
0:55:03.720,0:55:06.890
In the same weight class,
nobody could defeat him
0:55:06.890,0:55:08.781
It was difficult to fight him.
0:55:12.076,0:55:15.302
Very difficult.
He had teeps, punches, and knees.
0:55:15.302,0:55:18.542
He was tall, but wouldn't come forward.
0:55:18.542,0:55:20.548
He didn't come forward.
0:55:20.548,0:55:22.811
He always put on guard.
0:55:22.811,0:55:24.742
It was difficult to fight with him.
0:55:24.742,0:55:29.209
He was good at both Muay
Thai and Western boxing.
0:55:29.209,0:55:31.116
I admit it was difficult
to fight with him.
0:55:31.855,0:55:34.539
- He didn't fight for championship, did he?
- No
0:55:37.501,0:55:39.163
When he did Muay Thai
0:55:39.163,0:55:41.401
when he was young,
0:55:41.401,0:55:43.279
nobody wanted to fight with him.
0:55:43.279,0:55:44.733
No promoter, right?
0:55:44.733,0:55:47.014
Not that reason.
Nobody wanted to fight him.
0:55:48.381,0:55:49.963
It was difficult to fight him.
0:55:49.963,0:55:52.272
He was tall. He didn't advance.
0:55:58.942,0:56:01.385
He also had good skills.
0:56:04.700,0:56:06.520
He could be considered a
legend, right?
0:56:07.820,0:56:11.790
He could be a legend
for Bantamweight class.
0:56:12.681,0:56:15.446
In the past,
the legend had to be at least 130 lbs.
0:56:17.906,0:56:19.136
Was Robert good?
0:56:19.136,0:56:20.259
- who?
- Robert
0:56:20.259,0:56:22.315
He was average, left kick.
0:56:22.315,0:56:23.693
He was okay.
0:56:23.693,0:56:25.323
He was average.
0:56:26.006,0:56:29.933
He was like wood,
not smart but strong.
0:56:29.933,0:56:31.518
average
0:56:34.932,0:56:36.855
oh this person was the same.
0:56:36.855,0:56:39.930
This one, this one and this one...
0:56:39.930,0:56:41.993
Not this. This one...
0:56:41.993,0:56:43.196
this one
0:56:43.196,0:56:44.932
were the same, not smart.
0:56:48.954,0:56:51.026
This person was the same.
0:56:52.935,0:56:54.385
B class... In the past...
0:56:55.065,0:56:57.058
he was D.
0:56:57.995,0:57:01.249
Jomhod ... C
0:57:03.458,0:57:04.622
Changpuak
0:57:04.622,0:57:08.076
There were not many large
fighters in Thailand.
0:57:08.076,0:57:10.042
He was pretty good.
0:57:10.042,0:57:11.795
But...
0:57:11.795,0:57:13.966
When he did Muay Thai,
he didn't have a fighter's heart.
0:57:13.966,0:57:16.296
But he was strong
when he fought abroad in K1.
0:57:18.920,0:57:20.079
He came to help me train.
0:57:20.079,0:57:22.538
I asked him to help me train
0:57:22.538,0:57:24.386
- Where?
- in Thailand.
0:57:24.386,0:57:28.744
When I trained for a match, I asked him
to help me train because he was big.
0:57:30.096,0:57:31.964
This era of fighters, decline in quality already, right?
0:57:34.247,0:57:36.691
This one has been drinking a lot these days.
0:57:36.691,0:57:38.232
He's in Pattaya, don't you see him?
0:57:38.232,0:57:39.892
He lives in Pattaya.
0:57:40.590,0:57:42.352
He always drinks.
0:57:43.876,0:57:45.632
Do you know his son?
0:57:45.632,0:57:47.176
- No.
- Kongsak
0:57:47.176,0:57:48.663
- Kongsak?
- Sitboonmee
0:57:48.663,0:57:49.878
That's his son
0:57:50.730,0:57:53.008
from one wife. He has a few wives.
0:57:53.008,0:57:54.111
He was a playboy.
0:57:54.111,0:57:56.069
This person was good.
0:57:56.069,0:57:57.352
very durable
0:57:57.352,0:57:59.372
Samson
0:57:59.372,0:58:01.463
I liked to watch him.
His fights were fun to watch.
0:58:06.222,0:58:08.385
He would be brutal when he came in.
0:58:08.385,0:58:12.499
He walked and grabbed. He was brutal.
0:58:12.934,0:58:14.506
big lungs
0:58:17.872,0:58:22.080
This person was dangerous.
0:58:22.080,0:58:24.809
He had a lot of dangerous weapons.
0:58:24.809,0:58:27.470
A fighter with strong punches...
0:58:27.470,0:58:31.517
Most punch fighters had
one strong side, a strong cross.
0:58:31.517,0:58:33.233
But his punches were strong on both sides.
0:58:35.622,0:58:37.999
If you punch with the right
hand, it has short reach.
0:58:37.999,0:58:39.603
How about a left punch? It's longer.
0:58:39.603,0:58:40.698
If the opponent teeps...
0:58:41.602,0:58:43.571
oh very dangerous
0:58:44.794,0:58:47.583
If a fighter has a strong front punch,
0:58:47.583,0:58:50.125
that would be dangerous
0:58:50.125,0:58:52.763
because it is closer to the opponent.
0:58:55.528,0:58:59.365
It was awesome when he fought Samson.
0:58:59.365,0:59:01.031
Samson punched him down.
0:59:01.031,0:59:04.166
- He punched Samson back.
- Samson used knee.
0:59:04.166,0:59:06.393
Samson fell down from Weerapol's punch!
0:59:07.719,0:59:08.991
oh this person
0:59:09.950,0:59:12.522
He had good right kick,
strong mind and never retreated.
0:59:13.251,0:59:16.355
It was fun to watch him fight Samson.
0:59:16.355,0:59:18.778
right kick, right kick, right punch
0:59:18.778,0:59:21.197
He was pretty good.
0:59:22.815,0:59:25.040
Singdam was average.
0:59:25.040,0:59:26.783
left kick
0:59:26.783,0:59:29.539
only left. Fighter's heart.
0:59:29.539,0:59:31.904
He was average, but his fights were fun.
0:59:33.218,0:59:35.823
Anatasak had good elbows,
but he was average.
0:59:35.823,0:59:37.889
only C
0:59:38.693,0:59:41.541
He was good for the first 3 rounds,
but got tired on 4th and 5th.
0:59:44.720,0:59:46.082
He was quick when he retreated.
0:59:46.082,0:59:48.494
- Silapathai
- good skill
0:59:48.494,0:59:50.730
He retreated a lot like Samart.
0:59:50.730,0:59:53.085
He fought Karuhat, just kick kick kick...
0:59:53.586,0:59:56.157
It wouldn't hurt because
he would only retreat.
0:59:59.791,1:00:03.087
- Lakhin was strong, right?
- Yes he was strong and had strong punches.
1:00:03.916,1:00:05.990
Not so smart but strong.
1:00:10.274,1:00:15.333
He was quite good.
He was good at leg kicks and punches.
1:00:15.333,1:00:16.726
His leg kicks hurt.
1:00:18.724,1:00:20.712
This person had strong right punch.
1:00:22.789,1:00:25.061
He was famous for a short period of time.
1:00:25.061,1:00:28.612
His punches, both right and
left, were strong.
1:00:28.612,1:00:30.496
But he couldn't fight for a long time.
1:00:33.336,1:00:35.026
This person was good.
1:00:35.026,1:00:37.312
Pretty good actually.
1:00:37.312,1:00:39.970
Not many people like
this these days.
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- to fight for a long time.
- right.
1:00:42.254,1:00:44.037
There are not many good
fighters these days.
1:00:44.037,1:00:46.550
Like this person,
1:00:46.550,1:00:48.416
he wouldn't be able to fight Samart.
1:00:48.416,1:00:51.246
He couldn't fight Samart.
1:00:51.246,1:00:53.824
He would be only B back then.
1:00:54.569,1:00:57.552
He is around 36-37 years old now.
1:00:57.552,1:00:59.699
Yes because there is no opponent.
1:01:00.878,1:01:03.061
He was pretty good.
1:01:03.061,1:01:05.622
He defeated Saenchai many times.
1:01:05.622,1:01:08.675
He was defeated by many fighters.
But he was pretty good.
1:01:08.675,1:01:10.505
He had Cambodian style.
1:01:10.505,1:01:13.080
right kick, right punch, strong mind
1:01:15.878,1:01:17.338
Kaew...
1:01:17.338,1:01:19.149
He was famous.
1:01:19.149,1:01:23.025
But I would give him C+ only.
1:01:24.222,1:01:26.464
He was famous from going abroad.
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- average
- yes
1:01:28.020,1:01:29.929
If I look at the standard,
1:01:31.958,1:01:34.320
he could be almost B-.
1:01:34.320,1:01:37.532
He got money because he
fought bigger fighters.
1:01:38.364,1:01:42.559
If he fought in professional matches...
1:01:44.082,1:01:46.122
average
1:01:46.122,1:01:47.423
slow
1:01:50.585,1:01:52.381
This person was good.
1:01:52.381,1:01:55.292
Was his leg broken?
1:01:55.292,1:01:56.624
yes
1:01:56.624,1:01:58.970
- He was good.
- He defeated Namkabuan.
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He was good but his leg was broken.
1:02:00.862,1:02:03.579
That's why he had to retire.
He was pretty good and skilled.
1:02:05.201,1:02:08.195
He was famous for a short period
of time because of his broken leg.
1:02:09.774,1:02:11.340
He had good skills.
1:02:13.027,1:02:16.474
He had good skills, but not a strong heart.
1:02:17.027,1:02:18.836
He couldn't go up because
1:02:18.836,1:02:21.615
he always lost when he
fought more skilled fighters.
1:02:24.195,1:02:27.340
But his skill was good.
1:02:28.267,1:02:30.901
I like him. His skill was good.
1:02:33.620,1:02:36.354
But he was so afraid of Saenchai.
1:02:36.354,1:02:38.343
If Saenchai fought him,
Saenchai wouldn't train.
1:02:38.343,1:02:40.640
He was afraid of Saenchai.
1:02:40.640,1:02:42.325
I don't know what he was afraid of.
1:02:43.641,1:02:45.890
He was very afraid.
1:02:48.962,1:02:51.129
But I like his skill.
1:02:51.703,1:02:53.431
He didn't like knees.
1:02:55.620,1:02:57.430
This person was very strong.
1:02:59.396,1:03:02.446
quite strong
1:03:02.446,1:03:05.621
but not so smart
1:03:05.621,1:03:08.166
His fights were entertaining. He was strong.
1:03:08.166,1:03:11.874
He is a knee fighter.
1:03:11.874,1:03:15.129
If he fought other knee fighters
in the past, would he win?
1:03:15.838,1:03:18.008
If he fought with Langsuan or
Dieselnoi, would he win?
1:03:20.473,1:03:23.420
His knees were nothing.
1:03:28.912,1:03:32.459
He had to strike hard.
1:03:32.459,1:03:33.767
But he...
1:03:33.767,1:03:37.047
his knee strikes were
1:03:37.047,1:03:39.824
beautiful [but wide].
1:03:40.014,1:03:41.156
- only locking?
- yes
1:03:41.994,1:03:43.470
His knee strike didn't hurt [not straight].
1:03:45.864,1:03:47.295
This person was good.
1:03:48.391,1:03:49.694
left kick. He was smart.
1:03:50.331,1:03:53.567
It was difficult to fight him.
1:03:55.622,1:04:00.822
Could he be elite? I don't think so.
He only had left kick and left punch.
1:04:04.460,1:04:06.419
This style...
1:04:06.419,1:04:08.966
a long knee strike, it's hard to block
1:04:08.966,1:04:10.089
But he didn't like knees.
1:04:11.118,1:04:13.002
- This person was good.
- Do you like him?
1:04:13.620,1:04:14.746
He was ok, average
1:04:14.746,1:04:16.696
Could he be a legend?
1:04:16.956,1:04:18.186
He could be a today's legend.
1:04:19.119,1:04:22.283
I look at a legend [yodmuay]...
1:04:22.829,1:04:24.717
Sangmanee
1:04:24.717,1:04:26.814
I'll show you how to beat him.
1:04:29.161,1:04:30.476
He would stand like this.
1:04:31.116,1:04:35.142
He would let the opponent kick like this.
1:04:35.467,1:04:38.061
It's like he didn't do anything.
He didn't know how to block.
1:04:38.787,1:04:41.461
How could he be a yodmuay if he
didn't know how to defend a kick?
1:04:41.461,1:04:45.586
He fought Thanonchai many times.
Thanonchai was a knee fighter.
1:04:45.586,1:04:49.444
He was stupid.
1:04:51.676,1:04:54.872
They said he had good knees.
1:04:55.603,1:04:57.704
He couldn't hurt even a dog.
1:04:58.488,1:04:59.628
Don't you like him?
1:04:59.628,1:05:02.318
- Do you like him?
- Yes I like him a lot.
1:05:02.318,1:05:04.138
Let me ask you this.
1:05:04.138,1:05:05.343
How did he strike with his knees?
1:05:05.925,1:05:08.298
He locked and kneed.
1:05:11.827,1:05:14.710
Let me say in a harsh way.
1:05:15.022,1:05:16.615
They called...
1:05:17.747,1:05:19.920
[this is Dieselnoi cursing, casually]
1:05:21.308,1:05:23.228
He was tall.
1:05:23.228,1:05:26.780
But he kneed like this.
1:05:26.780,1:05:27.994
not hurt, right?
1:05:27.994,1:05:31.305
Have you seen him strike hard [straight]? Never.
1:05:32.720,1:05:35.337
He just used his knees and did this.
1:05:37.943,1:05:42.677
Now he fights westerners,
these fights don't allow clinching. He has punches, elbows...
1:05:44.020,1:05:47.713
- Saiyok - Elbow fighter.
- He was quite good.
1:05:47.713,1:05:50.678
He was good at fighting westerners.
1:05:56.733,1:05:59.082
same same
1:05:59.082,1:06:00.457
left kick
1:06:00.457,1:06:01.869
same same
1:06:01.869,1:06:03.563
They were good at fighting westerners.
1:06:03.563,1:06:05.285
Kem is Femeu
1:06:07.546,1:06:09.360
Buakaw only fights westerners
1:06:12.332,1:06:14.062
just fight westerners
1:06:14.062,1:06:16.993
Khaosai was stupid.
He was bad in Muay Thai.
1:06:18.123,1:06:22.123
We trained together before he
went to fight in Western boxing.
1:06:22.984,1:06:24.900
He looked the same as Kaokor [his twin brother].
1:06:24.900,1:06:26.021
They would cheat.
1:06:28.079,1:06:30.698
Kaosai was smaller.
He would go to weigh in.
1:06:30.698,1:06:33.044
But Kaokor fought in the match.
He was bigger.
1:06:33.402,1:06:34.598
When Kaosai fought
1:06:35.313,1:06:36.455
in Muay Thai,
1:06:36.455,1:06:39.467
he was so slow and got kicked.
1:06:39.467,1:06:40.669
He quit.
1:06:41.024,1:06:44.740
On that day,
there was also Western boxing matches.
1:06:44.740,1:06:47.923
But there were not enough fighters.
Kaosai's manager
1:06:47.923,1:06:50.714
took him to fight in Western boxing.
He knocked out his opponent.
1:06:51.549,1:06:53.485
So he moved and grew in that path.
1:06:53.485,1:06:58.155
- His left punch was strong.
- yes
1:06:58.155,1:07:00.642
He was good at punching here.
1:07:03.635,1:07:06.016
We lived together.
1:07:06.016,1:07:08.307
We trained together in the past.
1:07:09.643,1:07:11.845
Thank you.
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Comments (4)
What a character
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Such a character, right down to his belt buckle!!!!! I’m going to re watch with my book and follow along... I noticed so many pages were signed too! 🤩 very cool 🙏🏼
Did Dieselnoi ever elaborate on why he said that Apidej "did not have a fighter's heart?" That comment stood out to me.