May 29, 2023

The Equitable Lagoon feat. Tom Walker

It's the free one!

This week, Tom Walker (@tomwalkerisgood) joins Riley, Milo, and Alice to discuss some recent NEOM-related news—particularly, some comments from NEOM-affiliated architects at the Venice Biennale. But we’re also talking about a recent story in the FT where all financial journalists got scooped by a random news site in Antigua…owned by a pizza-enthusiast editor who is also an ambassador to three countries, a lawyer, a doctor, and an Instagram guy. The whole thing is an experience.

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Comments (62)

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John Alexander Dawson · February 25, 2026

This is, by a wide margin, my favorite TF. Each and every bit is a banger.

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Imandoml · August 28, 2025

Came back to this 2 years later, and my first thought was,"who tf is Alice?"😆

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Robert Greensmith · June 23, 2025

I came back to this episode and, just to check, had a look at Antigua News’s Wikipedia page. Dario Item is, it turns out, continuing to scoop the world’s financial press on all Credit Suisse news, even to the point that he’s been cheerfully using his diplomatic immunity to reveal information that the judges in the case have ordered not be shown to the plaintiffs. Dario Item should and must be invited to come on TF to provide Pizza to all!!

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hence therefore · May 13, 2025

Came back to this a year later and I cannot believe how many bangers are in one episode. Gina Rinehart's poetry, milk your Blood Boy, Ron DeSantis spokesman Brian Griffin, NEOM, the Equitable Lagoon AND Dario Item. Absolutely incredible

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SixArmedSweater · April 20, 2024

That is an astonishing Homer.

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Patrick Lopez · March 28, 2024

I'm hearing a lot of rumors you've been banished to the lagoon!

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Mark Schwagner · February 8, 2024

i promise that "I've heard rumors you've been banished to the lagoon," will become a common aphorism in SE Michigan.

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Miles · December 7, 2023

Returned to this six months later and it still has me crying laughing. Def an all time great podcast episode full stop

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Arthur Sexcrimes · August 14, 2023

I'd like to specify that Dario Item has active and separate websites at darioitem.com, dario-item.com, darioitem.org, darioitem.net, darioitem.press, darioitem.info and darioitem.digital

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Chuck Finnley · June 21, 2023

Downloading this and preserving it in amber, so future generations will know where the legendary lagoon riff came from.

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Martin · June 6, 2023

You fucks genuinely did get me to start reading the FT.

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Your Hayden · June 4, 2023

An all time great episode, but I have very important news: Dr. Dario Item follows back on Twitter.

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kaninchen ZERO · June 4, 2023

and oh boy is dj morphosis from kettering suuuuuper racist

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Peter Robson · June 3, 2023

You will all be pleased to know tgat Gina Rinehart has been named West Australian of the year.

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Matthew Harris · June 3, 2023

Missed an opportunity to say CRIMINAL MIMES but honestly this is an all-time banger ep

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Brian Azevedo · June 2, 2023

[pedant] the Venetians fled the terra firma from Aquileia, not Ravenna [/pedant] Still I nearly shit myself laughing

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Clare Patterson · June 1, 2023

“Cuno’s heard you’ve been banished to the fuckin lagoon” did not get enough love imo

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James · May 31, 2023

Been a lil while since I cry-laughed but the lagoon bit nearly killed me, so thanks for that

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Andrew Davis · May 31, 2023

Leeches are still an acceptable form of treatment under the NHS, so no one is better equipped to save the blood boy than our beloved podcasters. (This is not a joke.)

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J · June 1, 2023

Aren't those meant to drain excess blood after surgeries + infusions or something like that?

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FireFly · May 31, 2023

Dario Item really is just like the bad guys from Lethal Weapons 2, with the stacked diplomatic immunity

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miko · May 31, 2023

Dario Item is a real life Questing Beast, every time you look, new keywords

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TwirlinCurtis · May 31, 2023

Hey Lois! nyehehehehe

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Greg L. · May 31, 2023

This conversation should be banished from Patreon, and flourish in the lagoon of Dario Item's YouTube page.

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Mulloy · May 31, 2023

it wasn't just the goths, it was alaric, put some respect out there

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Mulloy · May 31, 2023

don't put it in the papers that I got banished to the lagoon

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alan · May 30, 2023

i fuckin love when Tom is on the other pods

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Genevieve R · May 30, 2023

Riley showing infinite patience in this one

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JadeP · May 30, 2023

love listening to the robin williams memorial podcast.

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brodie · May 30, 2023

WELCOME TO TEH TIDES OF HISTORY WITH FUCKIN CUNO.

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Planxty · May 30, 2023

cannot stop imagining the pigiron school of minecraft and related industries

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Kimmie · May 30, 2023

The "banished from Ravenna to the lagoon" bit had me laughing so hard I cried.

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Conor O'Toole · May 30, 2023

Fuck me sideways. An all timer.

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Henry Read · May 30, 2023

Sir Dr. Reverend Dario Item Esquire is a kind of guy that I thought last romed the earth in the age of windjammers. A goddamn living fossil! Please, please PLEASE het him on the pod

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Nosotros47 · May 30, 2023

Slightly disappointed by Alice who I thought knew some German not recognizing Himmelb(l)au as obviously an architect

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orc · May 30, 2023

Ok the family guy impressions are killing me. They’re spot on

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Jamie · May 30, 2023

I love the fact that Riley has been doing this show for half a decade and yet didn’t seem quite prepared for several minutes of family guy impressions after introducing a guy called Brian Griffin hahahahaha

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Lilith Dyke · May 30, 2023

the architecture briefs sound like high-concept drag acts

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Paul Rogers · May 30, 2023

Dammit I was laughing from start to finish! Knocked it out of the park today team!

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Marcelli · May 31, 2023

nearly pissed my pants on the train man. it was embarrassing

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Man2quilla · May 30, 2023

Darin Item has a different personal youtube channel titled Dario Item which posts shit loads of shorts from lovely beaches

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Patrick Lopez · May 30, 2023

This is genuinely one of the funniest TF episodes I can remember.

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Man2quilla · May 30, 2023

"You can try" 💀💀💀

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Man2quilla · May 30, 2023

Mr. B the Gentleman Rhymer is a hell of a grab lol

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Man2quilla · May 30, 2023

RIP Bryan Griffin

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Man2quilla · May 30, 2023

Damn it, now I've heard "inherited several mimes"

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Oliver Cant · May 30, 2023

A moment of silence please, for the CIA serious mime squad. Their brave sacrifices to secure coca cola's profits across the Global South will not be in vain. The people of Indonesia will finally know of the sweet refreshing taste of Coke Life. Godspeed, brothers o7

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Nemo · May 30, 2023

kids these days would rather found a more equitable society in a lagoon than work an honest job picking legumes

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Patrick Tessmer · May 30, 2023

Dario Item has a book. "Money laundering, legal privilege and international cooperation in Switzerland"

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Jack Reeves · May 30, 2023

HerMiney Granger

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Josep C. · May 30, 2023

Ambassador, lawyer, doctor.. Are you sure that ain't the Bald guy from that Internet site 😉? You know. The astronaut, policeman, etc...

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Dave Clarke · May 30, 2023

So they just kept going on about that lagoon thing hey...

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Gareth Jenkins · May 30, 2023

A guy was called Peter Cook and it broke Milo

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Al · May 30, 2023

Wait, is this Australian billionaire the Down Under version of Princess Margaret?

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meta · May 30, 2023

Y’all belong in the lagoon because you’re absolute goons (would the lagoon have boat-bound laHoons?)

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John Leavitt · May 30, 2023

Whomst up being banished to the lagoon?

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Izak Kennedy · May 30, 2023

AND RELATED INDUSTRIES

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John Bruehler · May 30, 2023

It seems like the Honorable Ambassador Dr. Dario Item might come on the podcast if you just call him on the phone

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MusƎEqual · May 30, 2023

8 Miles deep

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POWERDAD · May 30, 2023

best cold open in the history of the show

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Twi · May 30, 2023

12:30 Isn't this just the New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology

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Nick Gully · May 29, 2023

You should send Dr. Item a shirt!