Busting Offsets feat Dr Jess Green
It's the free one!
This week, Riley, Milo, and Alice join Dr Jess Green (@greenprofgreen) to discuss the concept of carbon offsets and how they’re not the foolproof solution to climate change that every huge polluter who definitely wants to keep polluting seems to think they are! Or maybe they’re just pretending to think that!
*AUSTRALIA ALERT* We’re currently in Australia, and there are tickets available for shows in Sydney: https://musicboozeco.oztix.com.au/outlet/event/3213de46-cef7-49c4-abcb-c9bdf4bcb61f and Canberra: https://au.patronbase.com/_StreetTheatre/Productions/TFLP/Performances
*BRITAINOLOGY ALERT* We’ve added a live show in Melbourne on the 19th of November in which Nate and Milo will present Britainology! Get tickets here: https://tccinc.sales.ticketsearch.com/sales/salesevent/79853
Comments (40)
Coming home from the factory of producing graphite micro chips for industrial machinery, getting hit with the intro. Bingo bango.
cancelling milo for doing bisexual erasure on Grimes
The Pharaoh stuff was a top 10 riff listened to it twice
carbon trading is just a guy with a ball under 1 of five shuffling cups
as someone who had a very weird temp job at COP26 in Glasgow I genuinely do have leftover cop merch, time to make a killing on depop I guess
Jimmy cap and trade
hearing a deafening vine boom sound effect when Riley says "broad based"
Come now, gang. Between our Comrades at Corner Spati and Riley making himself a known face at every techno event in the northern hemisphere, it's inevitable that a few a Germans start growing on the podcast like moss.
Please come to Germany, but not (just) to Berlin pretty please. Used to live in England and have always had a fascination with your cursed wet rock.
There’s a good itv drama about John Darwin called The Thief His Wife and the Canoe
But it stars the hated melt Eddie Marsan, the fact that he is a good actor only makes me hate him more
Would love to see you come through the Hamburg harbor
For me, from Switzerland, I started listening in 16-17. Working in it, I saw how much 'innovation' was just a scam to get public funding, how much 'revolutionaries' were just guys with apps. Plus all the political stuff that came bubbling up gave me an immense feeling of "The Future has been cancelled". Plus, Switzerland may be currently nicer than Britain, but fuck if it does not share its psychosis. We had columnists writing (read with Nate british voice): "I don't know why they fuss about this covid virus. We added emergency beds, but we don't even need them". If there's a country bemoaning that the mass-grave they dug was too big and inefficient, its fucking Switzerland.
Please Riley, make a show happen in Berlin or anywhere in Germany please
This
I have to cut in on the part of the degrowthers... yes if the proposals were like the potted summary she gave, they would be lacking nuance but none of the central texts I've read on it are what she described. At very broad levels it's a very global-focused whole earth system economic philosophy so sure, if you only read the very first paragraph of the text, it's going to seem reductive, but every theory of degrowth or steady state economics I've read acknowledges the need for not only redistribution of current existing wealth but redistribution of growth, and there's a whole scholarship dedicated to degrowth from below. The big problem with degrowth is that it's immediately misunderstood based on knee jerk assumptions which is why I don't like the term, but the concept is much more complex and I'd expect it to be better discussed by an expert, particularly in a leftist space.
Sorry one more thing, if you'd like to read a really interesting exploration of Malthusianism and degrowth that teases apart how they're not the same thing and in the process really revisits the actual theories of Malthus and critiques them, I'd recommend Giorgios Kallis's Limits, it's very short and very readable but packs a lot of great analysis in there!!
They say about us Huns that we are boring and opposed to diversity, but we love to observe a country that is horrible in a different way from our own. So.. Looking forward to your live show FROM STUTTGART.
German here, would love a live show in Berlin.
Alice's spot on! As an American I listen to this show to learn about the dumpster fire that is Britain
Me a German gov employee listening to this episode: 😳
is precision machine part making simulator on steam?
Wow Leute, tolle Folge! Ich liebe Matt Hancock!!! Könntet ihr bitte eine Live Show In Stuttgart machen?
Berghain presents Trash Future
can we get to tour of weird America? like only Appalachian towns, PNW punk house basements, and rural county Walmart parking lots.
As someone from Austria, a show in Berlin would be a great opportunity to get out of the cellar.
If you do a german tour, you should only do mid size towns. TF live in Augsburg, Chemnitz, Kiel, Ludwigshafen am Rhein, Osnabrück and Salzgitter
Bustin' makes me feel good
I live in Canada and I absolutely listen to feel slightly better about our own fucked situation. It’s also why I can’t listen to The Bottlemen.
As an alleged Canadian who's lived most of her life in the US but also briefly in Vancouver, same for both countries 🙃 But tbh lately it's mostly just been feeling worse about everywhere as the UK seems to be heading for the same level of tent city human suffering found in both LA and Vancouver and anticipating the next level fucked Nextdoor vibes the Brits will have when there are encampments everywhere because their society is joining us in failing!!!!!
You should come to Ohio and have a tour of our various Failures of Capitalism (Lordstown Motors, river that caught on fire, etc)
Ohio would be a great Midwestology episode
*Manifestiert die Trashfuture Norddeutschland Tour*
Trashfuture auf der Bühne des städtischen Theaters Delmenhorst
avid German listener here. I like to listen and recommend your show mainly for the „tech“ and infinimoney economy analysis (and shows on other topics like today), the f***ed British vibes are just a nice bonus. Would definitely go to a live show in Hamburg or maybe Berlin
l've been wondering, is there a good German language dirtbag-lefty podcast to sink my teeth into? Been wanting to get some Deutschesüben in
Going nut zero by 2030
You can't have Corner Späti hosts on as guests and then complain about having German listeners. Let's be reasonable adults about this.
Listening to the podcast to torture my british friends with knowing who matt hancock is after finishing work at the gummi factory (I would bike to berlin to see you on tour - port tour would work even better)
I very much indeed enjoy listening to ze Trashfuture vhen I come home from ze hyperprecision machinery factory. Don't worry about ze staff at ze retreat, however, zey are into zat sort of Scheiße.
