The Fermentation Barge feat. Mattie Lubchansky and Jaya Saxena
It's the food one, in which we discuss the weird fixations of the Make America Healthy Again death cult and their particular emphasis on "real food," however that might be defined today. And we also have to talk about the strangely heavy jeans that RFK Jr is always wearing. It's a whole lot all at once.
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Which nozzle western man was such a better episode title
you guys encasing ur ham in aspic (jello) was ABOUT FOOD SAFETY before fridge/freezers were widespread u would just put ur meat in a big mold of it and it would preserve it. you could travel with it or just have it stay for however long in the kitchen and not spoil. then you just remove from the solidified goo and serve! ur grandma did the jello ham for food safety reasons
nit: glyphosate's an herbicide (weed killer), not pesticide (bug killer)
The Wife of Bathysphere’s Tale
The problem is any meaningful reformation of the American Food system is basically a direct attack on capitalism. So what you get is individual choices based on the marketing of several different ethical views on farming all blended together into an at best useless slop and at worst empowered child murderer. I'm not surprised pesticides would be the dividing line. Actually banning them would be good (mostly for everyone who lives and works in farm country, and the ecosystems we're obliterating) but it would also end animal factory farming and cheap beef plus is a direct attack on the bottom line of agribusiness and food processing. Now that doesn't mean people would starve but it does mean burger price go up, which if you have any real concerns about animal welfare, or climate or HUMAN HEALTH you're probably recognize has to happen sooner or later anyway but would be anathema to the right. And we still need to solve inequality too to make that work which is why we're probably stuck in hell till the whole damn thing breaks.
This moment may have passed but if you're in a red state and working on actual food issues, SNAP, famer's markets, nutrition classes, whatever try and sneak it in under the Food is Medicine umbrella. You may as well use MAHA for a some political cover because that's all were getting out of this.
I have the perfect story to encapsulate the median American voter health experience. I was at a house party where a man offered everyone cheese puffs insisting they were fried in beef tallow, then 10 minutes later went outside to smoke a cigarette.
🎶That RFK bought for 2 zuzim...🎶
Sheriff J. W. Pepper Louisianna State Police mentioned
The tallow spraying drive thru chatbot was invented to compete with the McDonalds Ai that only gives you butter.
new podcast about food with riley and jaya when?
my position about food economics is: they should invent a type of bean that doesn't make me fart the shit out my ass but also still costs 50 cents per kilo
Late reply I know but have you tried black beans? Idk if they'd be any different but I've never had any response to them.
The Fermentation Barge is the pao cai I've modded to look like the USS Monitor.
MAHA steak and a fermentation barge and I can't believe we missed the joke "she's built like a steakhouse but she handles like a bistro".
I'm 1000% convinced there will be an expose in ten years that the 'processed food' panic was purely a marketing gimmick by the meat industry panicked about increased sales of vegan and veggie food.
I'm sad nobody worked in "tallowed be thy name"
They have no microwave in their kitchen because they are paranoid chuds. I have no microwave in my kitchen bc there is no counter space and I hate the texture of microwaved food.
Futurist Nonna is a great bit
Re: crab stabbing: how was he getting ankle without bending down, andbeing unstealthy? Or did he have Rosa Klebb fork heels?
I am imagining he is goblin style crouch scrabbling, below waist height so the guests can't see him behind the counter
My grandma bought me a flask of vodka when I was 14. Very sound nutrition
Horror story plot: Burger King headphones AI confusing the meaning of words causes a Pontypool (2008) style auditory zombie virus
No Gods Noma, thank you
Is it just me, or do these various types of crank only exist to capture and discredit real criticism of power?
Mattie lubchansky becoming a part of the TF extended universe has made me happy
I find it a bit wild that steak 'n shake went all in on the Maha thing and poor old Chick-fil-A which is much more aligned with trumpism overall gets left out, simply because they built their identity around not serving beef.
i love hearing about the newest mainstream food politics as a vegan. like news from an alternate universe where everybodys from sparta
The thing that bothers me, as a pedant, about the 'processed food' discourse is that they don't define their terms. In this way of thinking 'processed foods' are bad but they only mean certain means of processing. Butchering is a way of processing food. Cooking is a way of processing food. Baking is a way of processing food. Fuck's sake, chewing is a way of processing food. But, of course, those ways of processing don't count.
Pointedly, tallow encased fries are not processed food. Fried in OIL on the other hand….
I found it really hard to listen to this episode because of all the talking over. Much more than a usual episode of this or no gods no mayors. Still, really good work
This is my pet peeve as a invertebrate zoologist so I do have to discuss it whenever I hear someone say it. It's kinda besides a lot of the point of the episode I know. You cannot wipe out mosquitos without fairly extreme ecosystem shifts. The larvae are vital aquatic predators and the adults are vital food sources for species such as bats, mosquitoes are important plant pollinators. Removing them would have immense ecosystem impacts. Of the 3500 mosquito species only a few even bite humans. I could go on but this is a podcast comment not an essay
What if we just wiped out the 3 big species that make people sick?
quick addition about vegetarianism/veganism and milk. Switzerland is a milk country. We produce cattle for milk. We have relatively cheap veal, because its simply a "byproduct" of producing milk. It took me a while to understand the vegan argument against milk.
How can you not bring up Futurism when talking about RFK? He’s got a voice by Russolo.
Calling your fine dining restaurant after the disease of malnutrition that eats holes in your face is a move, I guess: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noma_%28disease%29 (warning: extremely gross)
Noma? Like as in Noma Malone? https://youtu.be/-9T4jMND-4E
"It doesn't feel shame! Or remorse or fear and it absolutely will not stop!... ever... until you supersize that drink!”
Look, making food is important socially and so on, but it’s not joining the marines, so cut out this best-of-the-best shit. And let’s stop calling this shit “art,” it lets people get away with too much. Food is important, and a chef’s place in the hierarchy (name of the position notwithstanding) is below the guy who presses the button to make the machine can beans, below the 13 year old being illegally made to clean the blades of the chicken processor, below the the guy shoveling shit at a dairy farm. This bullshit killed my friend. P.S. “chef” means “boss”, and never forget it
Remembering my days working in maccies drive through & how every time it rained the microphones would fill up with water, I wonder how Presto would handle that
All timer episode, we love to see it gang!
if RFK jr. brings back offal to the US it will be a broken clocks moment. sadly I don't think he will because trump and boomers will get mad because offal's last holdouts in the US are immigrants.
And our pets
"I don't know what the hell has gotten into our training data. The cinema snack recommendation engine keeps trying to upsell customers on buckets of homemade kimchi"
I definitely didn't start drinking lots of soya milk in like 2013 before I found out that you could just buy estrogen on the internet
Being against pasteurisation is so funny!! Yeah what a mysterious and scary process. Who knows what they're doing to it in there
Sounds vaguely French, I'm against it. The freedom process for milk is storing it raw in your toilet tank
Ankle Shanker {2}{R}{W}{B} Creature — Goblin Berserker Haste Whenever this creature attacks, creatures you control gain first strike and deathtouch until end of turn. The stature of the fighter matters less than the depth of the cut. 2/2
~~~FIVE TALLOWED JEANS! four Turing (complete) ducks Three robot maids Two glasses guys & neom is a desert city
So much about soy-oestroegoen & nothing about the pollen season testosterone
Black Forager actually recently debunked this! The reason why our allergies are worse is (surprise) climate change, not planting more male trees
Jaya has a remarkably lovely voice. Not that my beloved NGNM crew don't, I was just taken aback.
Hussein inadvertently summoning two Dan Olson videos from the aether by invoking Jimmy Beast's name.
The plague of asshole chefs in fine dining is one reason I’m such a fan of Eric Ripert. Proving that it’s possible to be at the top of your culinary game and pleasant to work with at the same time.
Has anyone else noticed Riley’s voice sounding softer and a bit more femme
Hussein with the called shot on Mr. Beast
Entering Mayorspace the moment I see Mattie’s name in the episode title.
Yup
He’s the perfect representative for how they want to turn the failures of our shitty profit driven healthcare system into another example of “personal responsibility”. They won’t ban any of the chemicals in our food that’s bad but they will tell you about “other options” that are batshit insane and whether you take that advice or not you still lose and United Healthcare will continue to spend billions meant for healthcare on stock buybacks for it’s shareholders lmao I love this hellhole of a country
I Have No Mouth, And I Must Serve Fast Food
31:11 Crucially, *you* are going to live in the pod and eat the bug. *He* is going to live in a nice house and eat steak with tallow-fried eggs. For all that conservatives love to whine about "the elites", what they actually mean is that they feel they're on the wrong side of the dividing line.
preaching to the choir here obviously but "The Elites" to conservatives has always either just been a thinly-veiled code phrase for "The Jews" or has meant whoever they think has too much cultural influence, e.g. the blue-haired barista with they/them pronouns who makes $16 an hour
Hopefully this doesn't violate podcast submissive confidentiality but it's really funny to hear about an Iowa trans woman considering I'm a 250lb corn fed iowa trans woman lol
Hello fellow Iowan!
This has a quaint "early Balthasar Speedboat episode" timbre to it.
So glad you guys could cover RFK Jr, the Mayor of Our Bodies, I guess
RFK Jr will go down as one of the biggest murderers in American history
It really takes a lot of effort to be the worst Kennedy ever but he's certainly giving it a go