Building an Agentic Temple feat. Dr Eleanor Janega
Dr J joins us to discuss Peter Thiel's cooked eschatology, as well as the supremely attainable goals with which Elon Musk stands to make himself a trillionaire. It's all plausible and it's all real, and we of course have nothing but positive things to say about it!
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For everyone taking psychic damage from the Acts mention about whether the hipster Baptist church with a good website you went to in 2015 is connected, this does appear to be an unrelated initiative named after a different chapter of the book of Acts. *Edit I legitimately forgot it was the Acts 29 network, I can confirm Mark Driscoll was a piece of shit. Until reading Wikipedia just now I did not know he employed Robert Morris...*
I'd be impressed at how OpenAI managed to create a tax on investor stupidity if their collapse wasn't about to collapse the global economy.
#hypernoncing
I live in Boston. Should I go check out Fractal?
Quite apart from everything else, he's wrong about both of the ages for the Buddha: he left the palace at 29 and attained enlightenment at 35 (he didn't achieve "ego death", he's not a tech bro)
I went to school with dick gay, lovely bloke
The ironic punishment for watching choking porn is you get followed by a robot whose hands don’t work properly?
someone, somewhere, wished for everyone who was into choking to eventually get a robot that could choke them, and the monkey's paw curled.
Wait did I correctly hear at the end that Musk estimates his likelihood of dying as at least 0.7%?
I wonder if Elon has ever approached a lesbian and threatened them with an evil and intimidating horse
I feel like labling the entirety of Prostestantism as evil or bad over one hyper-specific cult like modern Evangelicals while simutaniously glorifying the Catholic church is a bit much don't you think? I'm not even religious. Both have done bad shit. Maybe don't glorify bad shit no matter the religion.
I don't understand where this trend comes from, its definitely not a tendency that's exclusive to Trashfuture. Regardless, people who are knowledgeable about history (especially medieval history!) and/or are in favour of secularism ought to know better!
Nobody laughing at "unexpected item in the packing area" is CRIMINAL. They don't deserve you Nova.
Did Peter Thiel recently hear about Clair Expedition 33 or something?
Esquie is the antichrist because he is cute and everybody loves him :))
Werewolf fuckers of the world unite. We've nothing to lose but our change.
Somebody at Tesla has got their hands on the "Culture" novels by Banks. The Robot chaperon for murderers is straight out of that.
yeah I was about to say. I mean, if you're a Musk sicko like me, you remember he named the SpaceX barges after Culture ships, he has a credible claim at having read those at least
what if AI itself was actually the Antichrist
The plot of so many science fiction movies since the 50s.
8 minute mark "we're gonna get to the Antichrist" *30 minutes later we have not arrived at Antichrist*
Does the UK’s new porn law mean that Daniel Penny is now legally a pedophile?
dudes foing more sexual assault than genghis khan, and horses are involved too
Riley thought he was sooo funny when he pitched the "new" show Boney Island Whitefish.
When I first started watching Bones in 2010 I thought it was funny, too. Little did I know… (Bones jumped the shark about fifteen times over the course of its run. Late-stage Bones is completely unrecognizable from the first season. As a Bones connoisseur, of course, I prefer their earlier albums, not the crowd-pleasing fluff their later singles became…)
…I have those exact Skyrim mods installed. Fuck’s sake.
Girls can wear jeans and cut their hair short Wear shirts and boots, 'cause it's okay to be a boy But for a boy to look like a girl is degrading 'Cause you think that being a girl is degrading But secretly you'd love to know what it's like Wouldn't you? What it feels like for a girl
RETVRN: https://youtu.be/qYwgG2oyUbA (Andrew Tate always looks, to me, like an autogynephile 90s Madonna, or perhaps Peggy Bundy.)
Cross on the moon is papist relic worship NOT Protestant
I’ve been perusing his website. I would describe it as post-Christian. I do not believe Mr Park has any awareness of the reformation as a historical event. He’s culturally an evangelical but aesthetically catholic. Also, he has direct revelations via his mum’s ghost.
Banger of an episode. The 'I'm gaping at Riley' exchange caused me to snortlaugh at a volume that made me vaguely regret listening while queueing at Sainsbury's.
As lawyer: we live to be asked about 1 niche weird thing that has no apparent connection to our main focus of practice
Dr. Janega is always a treat
Nothing Elon talks about is original slap-drones are from the Culture series https://theculture.fandom.com/wiki/Slap-drone
Right?!?! "A robot who is a fun hang at the club" that's a Culture drone "the robot that replaces prisons because it stops you doing crime" that's a Culture drone! Except Culture drones are people and they wouldn't be Elon's friends or go clubbing with him any more than an actual human being would!
We gave lsd to our ex-mormon IT specialist(with consent) and his rantings were more coherant than thiels
Jonathan Gunlatch? I shore hope it do
That Dick Gay
oi mate, you got a license for that boner?
dr j poster dunks on tuple founder (fucks his wife)
Tuples, for what it’s worth, are unstructured finite lists, the sort of thing a Python programmer might use because they’re not into “labels”, i.e. class types or dictionaries, because they’re misanthropically obscurantist and want their polycules to be completely unmaintainable. Less psychopathic Python programmers, by contrast, have the decency to make sure their polycules can at least be serialized and deserialized to and from JSON… There is still the problem, of course, that it’s difficult to tell from the JSON (or YAML) representation whether a member is declining consent or saying they want to fuck the country of Norway. This is known as the “Norway problem”. On the other hand, of course, polycules that use C can’t distinguish boolean consent from consent to a threeway or more. Polycules that use Rust love telling everyone how safe they are, but they’re also known for aggressively propositioning members of polycules that use C. (Polycules in C, who, again, get confused about the difference between couples and group sex, and who occasionally try to fuck null references, leading to all sorts of difficult-to-diagnose sexually transmitted bugs, which is why other polycules use Rust in the first place.) Anyway this is what happens when I take Lyrica and then forget to go to bed.
I promise never to feed a TF voice into an erotic LMM 🙏🏽 out of respect and not bc I would have accent decision paralysis
Check in on your Chaps vs Russian Trump vs Dutch racist (jk Im picking Hun Mum)
Can confirm that if you talk to Myles about pornography law you can see him die a little inside. Talk to him about Disco Elysium instead. Although having said that you should absolutely get him on the show to talk about pornography law because he almost certainly knows more about it, and more about the practical effects and enforcement issues around pornography law in the UK than >literally< anybody else. And I definitely include the CPS and lawmakers in that.
fun how for every one of the listed criteria for the 1tn payout to musk you can immediately think of an easy way by which he could cheat at it and still get the money
I’m pretty sure the trillion dollar payout isn’t real cash money but rather stock options, which is to say it asymptotically approaches being a Ponzi scheme. Personally I’d rather my Ponzi scheme include overpriced soap or perhaps toxic (but all-natural) perfumes, or even moldy leggings with abstract pictures of dicks on them, rather than a Ponzi scheme that traps me in a steel box and then drives that steel box into a pond.
Most likely Antichrist candidate calls everyone else the Antichrist
"The Government Issued Me A Corporate Owned Robot Due to Unauthorized Erections" is the novella Philip K. Dick was too afraid to write.
I've jerked off to that light novel
idk man i feel like the spectre of nonce haunts quite a bit more of Europe than just the UK
Two of my friends talked to a recruiter from the boring company and were told their chances were slim because they had pronouns on their linkedin lol. He/Hims by the way lol
The boring company still exists!?
We! Love! Dr. Eleanor!!!
purely as a historical note, the term "monogamish" was coined by Dan Savage in 2011; it is not a bay area tech cultural product, at least, not originally
Correct! He was trying to help the straights
If yall had pulled strings & got me elected as the first pagan Catholic Ecumenical Bishop of Rome supreme IsambardKingdomBrunel of the Catholic Church, &c &c &c I would have had Swiss guards clapping Jadey Banz & mister Brimstone (petros theis) in irons for an inquisition & getting chucked on a greenwood pyre for heresiarchs
I'd be doing televised excommunication of the NYPD , & revoking all those cop Nonas' paradise & sending them to hell unless the cops went on some crusade against AI
I guess I'm odd bc I actually don't watch porn at all anymore... but not out of any moral objection to others enjoying it, and I certainly don't think it should be criminalized. I think the people wanting it criminalized (here in the US, at least) actually probably consume more of it in more problematic ways tbh. Sort of a "save me from myself, I can't stop fapping to tgirls" thing.
I love that Joyce Carol Oates’ tweets about Elon Musk are asking the same questions she asked of ISIS: “is there nothing celebratory & joyous?”
*tries to remain cool in front of Dr J*
I honestly believe Labour MPs are one of the few groups who don't actually look at porn. For as long as I've been alive they've been insane puritans who'd implement morality rules that'd be extreme even for Christian fundies if they could get away with it.
in the states, people who fit this description are our biggest perverts!
I just want to congratulate Dr Janega on successfully finessing the TF crew into adopting "Dr J" as a nickname. Nicely done.
now the real question is is the correct pronunciation 'Dr. Jay' or 'Dr. Yey'
If we're all 33 in the afterlife then I'm just always gonna be bald.
The phrase "Wanking License" brings to mind a british cop saying "Oi, you got a license for that cock?"
Always great to hear from Dr Janega but I can’t lie I’m really bored at this point of hearing people call things “Protestant” as an insult but with no real actual explanatory or descriptive content. Like what is that supposed to mean, sounds more like you just mean “capitalist” or “American”. What is in any way “Protestant” about the meth fuelled ramblings of an atheist aside from the numerological obsession with the bible and Jesus which is really just there to pull in fascists who like that imagery? American evangelical Protestantism has a lot of political history contributing to the current state of affairs but we risk paralysing our ability to discuss what those factors if we just start tossing things around without any intention.
Agree. I also really dislike how often it comes with the implication that Catholicism is universally better than Protestantism. Many of the people who call things "Protestant" as an insult have this weird false dichotomy in their heads where everything thats "Christian" and "good" is "Catholic" and everything thats "Christian" and "bad" is "Protestant". You're right about Protestantism having a long political history (especially in the USA) but not all of that was bad, and much of it was very good!
Greetings to Dr Janega from my favorite pub trivia team in Seattle, the Enumclaw Equestrian Society.
i'm dummy agentic
Yes! I was wondering what Dr. Janega's take would be on Thiel's extremely flawed interpretations after I listened to the Behind the Bastards episodes on his antichrist rantings.
Chris Hedges being on Hasan recently reminded me of how long he has been boringly, dourly, scathing of that tendency of narccisists to adopt a kind of self-serving pseudo-Christianity in which they are more of a Messiah than Jesus because they e.g. (e.g. Thiel) do not have say gex