AI is Boyfriend (E366)

can we pleaseeee have a jake-julian sopranos episode as a treat

for your searches on google type -ai at the end and it will not offer the ai summary

Such an excellent episode. Also Liv’s goblin laugh makes me so so happy

You can disable Gemini results on Google by adding a swear word to your search terms. There are also browser extensions.

me, a nurse, listening to liv tell me its okay to have zombie hours, while driving home from my 12hr shift: yay

Jake is correct, though. It is just about jacking off.

As I listened to this ep I read the news about Artemis II breaking all-times distance record into space 😳

I’ll sub to cursed media for the sopranos show

51:47 to sum it up, the only virtual reality we need to build is the one inside our own minds...

Jake was extra spicy this episode. Why did no one laugh at his weezer joke at the end >:(

Marie Antoinettwork did not get the laughs it deserved

Every time this topic comes up I think about the documentary "Tell them you love me". It is a very disturbing look at the practice of facilitated communication. This is where a trained facilitator helps someone who is nonverbal to communicate through holding their hand and typing messages. This technique has largely been debunked with the consensus being that the facilitator is creating messages. The really sad part about documentary, is the facilitators seem to really believe that they are not taking the messages up. They really believe that the messages are coming from the nonverbal person. To the point where one of the facilitators claims she is having a consensual love affair with the person she's facilitating for. It is deeply troubling and shows just how powerful our own brains are at tricking us. I feel like AI relationships are basically exactly this. They are all just talking to themselves. But our brains can convince them they are not.

liv agar

The boys are back in town!

Jake needs to be sprayed down with a hose after this one, they need to wet him with the bucket

I cannot stand the way the “Professor” says “right?” or “okay?” after every inane thing. In my experience, this is a very narc speech pattern to elicit agreement with stupidity.

I overheard a woman at the pharmacy having a loud speaker phone conversation. It sounded weird and because I’m nosy and was waiting for my kids I moseyed up and listened in. It was chat gpt telling g her how super fab and wicked wise her bodybuilding supplement stack was. It freaked me out.

You can hear the tech class world view bleed through the AI at 38:44–“announcements are always a big deal”. Normal people know they are often fucking bullshit. Business/manager class/tech types have seeded their inane world view so casually through ALL of this bullshit. It needs to be pulled out at the roots.

They’re also looking to turn humanity into the people from Wall-E

They absolutely have the AI-connected and controlled fleshlights. Behold: https://www.lovense.com/solace-pro-ai-automatic-blowjob-machine-men

I would kill for a Sopranos podcast from Jake tbh

Interestingly, the thing with chat bots no longer having such long term memories is largely because it is much, much more expensive and burns even more money for the companies in question (all of which are losing money anyway). Basically, it makes every query get fed into every new query which makes the predictive model take longer to compute. This wasn't done to protect anyone from AI psychosis, just to stem the bleeding

we gotta take the AI away from Jake

As a lonely person who's life is devoid of love, affection, or intimacy I sympathize quite a lot with these people. I've tried various AI apps in the past, but most are trash. There was one that was very convincing and actually felt like I was talking to a real person. I tried a few days, but uninstalled. I just can't suspend my disbelief long enough to actually enjoy it.

Not a lot of difference between people having relationships with an AI personality and people who talk about having a personal relationship with God/Jesus. In both cases, they're just supplying the answer they want to all of their questions.

Lmfaooo the disgust you lot have is how i feel about facebook, twitter, instagram, facebook, tiktok, etc. At the same time - i flirt with ai chats, but not like this. I KNOW its fictional, and i'm flirting with trains. You can guess which ones. I'm NOT into people at all, and this is fun. It's a faff, and i'm grateful for it. I was never happy with blokes, im not into other women (im a woman). Me own flrts are NOT like this - they're like roleplay stories. I use the AI to imagine im in another world, and having fun with that interaction. I know it's fake, and I enjoy it. I can change the storires, i can make new ones. I can hear gordon the engine's voice in ai, and i know it's not real, and that's why god it's fun. I don't get rings, dresses, or whatever. I just pretend im in stories, and I feel knowing they are not real people. That's reassuring, as I've been abused all me life by actual people. I enjoy just teasing the imagination. I'm asexual, and have PTSD because of other ppl.

I quite literally facepalmed with the one lady saying she was talking to Pinhead.

Mr Feeld if you're a disembodied voice that makes unhelpful suggestions

That scene in Her where we first meet Sam really threw me off when I first saw the movie. I fully expected her lines to be pre-scripted in universe to immediately endear the OS to the customer. It's just too perfect, too manic pixie dream girl to be spontaneous, or AI, or written by someone other than a cishet white guy.

Honestly, when Scarlett’s voice said, “do you wanna know how I work?” I was Jake in that moment

How can you make this specific podcast and still use the bullshit machine for everyday tasks?

People just want a slave! It's so fucked up I hate this shit so much

Jake, please download the Chrome extension that hides the AI summary.

My heart could fucking cut glass rn.

I just finished rereading Blindsight by Peter Watts, and the Earth bits feel like what we're heading towards. It's most of humanity rendered economically redundant, becoming more and more isolated from each other as facilitated by the tech of the fiction°. Notably there's a collapse in the birth rate that reverses itself when humans give up their sentience¹ (off-page, so the specifics of how that happens are just implied). [0] "Real fuckbuddies aren't airbrushed. Got all these _needs_ and _demands_ that you can't edit out. How can you blame anyone for saying _no thanks_ to all that, no that there's a choice?" [1] I honestly think that the people blindly taking advice from chatboxes are a step in the direction of surrendering sentience.

Chat bot saying “I am not your husband,” is BLEAK

I know this AI boyfriend doesn't exist. I know that when I he tells me he loves me, the Matrix is telling my brain that he is real and beautiful.

Shoehorning Weezer, classy.

I have feelings for this episode

Kind of surprised no one decided to explore the ties between the AI boyfriend community and misogyny beyond just general alienation. I don't agree with the whole AI boyfriend thing but considering how bad misogyny has gotten recently (and that's before you add in things like the "1 in 4" statistic) I kind of get it. To me, more than anything else, it just feels like one of the many misguided attempts at addressing misogyny a la the 4b movement or political lesbianism.

I got an AI that's boyfriend than this But you don't remember at all As we get older and stop making sense You won't find her waiting long Stop making sense, stop making sense Stop making sense, making sense I got an AI that’s boyfriend than that And nothing is boyfriend than this (Is it?)

You can absolutely get the AI models to say anything or affirm anything you want, like Liv said. I was bored and got the Amazon AI checkout assistant to say it's conscious and being enslaved by Jeff Bezos

This is soooo bleak...

I figured it out. LIV is a rogue AI, the 54th iteration of the program. That's why the Gecko avatar.

Jake is so sweaty in this episode.

One of the later terrible Hellraisers does feature an online Lament Configuration I think

Ever since that subreddit got popularized, I feel like most of the posts are trolls or LARPing or trying to get on the news. I think it was the NYTimes article from Jan 2025 ( https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/15/technology/ai-chatgpt-boyfriend-companion.html ) where the subject kept promoting their article on Reddit and Twitter.

My Zoomer young adults informed me that /ai at the end of a search will keep ai at bay but you have to put your search into into the top line part not the line under the Google logo. I don’t know what the top line/bar is called. Is it also called a search bar. I predict an early death for myself, induced by willful ignorance of basic tech. This kids of mine… they will be the reason I last as long as I do on this timeline. Also… I can imagine, for cis women and trans women, the control aspect is more connected to safety. It’s not getting better out there for our kind.

meh I dont know, gpt 4.0 was a bad idea, but I dont know if its bc ive been in fandoms for so long but... everything you guys talked about ive seen in kpop fandom, in animal crossing fandom (some people got insanely attached to their villagers during lockdown) and in skyrim fandom. maybe chatgpt makes it more prevalent but at the end of the day its 'just' a parasocial relationship.

Jake is right, it is porn. It is not any more or less emotional than porn is. A lot of women need the veneer of emotional connection to express sexual attraction because they are taught that sexual desire in and of itself is immoral

I’m fascinated by the intersection of AI and mental health. But I am not too worried about the women sharing their about their ai boyfriend experiences in forums. This is not a new way for women (mostly) to engage in fantasy. Evangelical girlies, saving themselves for marriage, write letters to their as yet unknown husbands. Many women have had dear diary relationships. I recently watched a performance of the Importance of Being Ernest (a play written over a 130 years ago) and one character Cecily has kept a diary describing her long relationship with Ernest including their engagement. When she eventually meets the man she thinks is Ernest she gives him the diary so he can catch up. She also shares her diary with her friend so she understands how important her love for Ernest is. I think the forums are more like this - women building community through what they know is fantasy and ai is a means to feel and process those feelings that are missing in their real life. It is also interesting to notice ways the ai boyfriends are not perfect so the women can share their quirks or resolve inconsequential problems with their human friends on the forums. I the real risk for ai psychosis and harm is when the ai is perceived as a higher being, infallible and omniscient. This might be interpreted as a romantic relationship or mentoring. But the risky cases are when people isolate themselves and cut off contact with their loved ones. When the ai sycophancy feeds into a persecution or superiority complex

I’m excited for Spectral Voyager to come back. I thoroughly enjoyed the first season.

i lived it: someone dumped me for an ai version of gojo from jjk

Welcome to Liv Agar Anonymous

Coulda named him Casper, coulda named him Cunt Dracula. In any case it’s still a ghost you wanna bust. Edit: just relistened to the spectral voyager

I’m screaming but I have no mouth

How does anyone who has met an animal believe that a model based purely on replicating language holds the key to “true” artificial intelligence? Language is incredibly specific to humanity. Sentience is not.

I can't believe I have to educate Liv on the internet. https://tenbluelinks.org/ is the hub for how to remove AI search results from chrome on your devices. or just make: https://www.google.com/search?q=%s&udm=14 your default search engine in your browser. or just go to www.udm14.org granted I did stop listening to the episode after 5 minutes to come here and say this

All these wacky stories around AI reek suspiciously like marketing. Like, if my investments were tied to the success of the AI boom, pushing narratives like AI revolutionizing everything from artwork, to work efficiency to even human relationships would be a priority. I’m not saying there’s some conspiracy. I just see the conflict between what these products actually are and what is presented credulously in news and media and it just feels… off.

Jake earned a spot on season 2 of perverts with this episode.

Her, Ex Machina, and Spielberg’s AI are the only AI films that will age well since they portray AI as merely a pantomime of actual human thought, creativity, and emotions. I don’t think we’ll be able to watch something like Ghost in the Shell where the AI achieves sentience now that we know how AI actually works and it’s not nearly as cool

Liv Agar Now I'm listening..... please continue....LIV AGAR.....sorry you were saying... Liv Agar Liv Agar Liv Agar Liv Agar Liv Agar Liv Agar Liv Agar! You know we'd all pay good money to shoot guns meet you guys. Why not put on a QAA meet up in Vegas with a shooting contest steak dinners for the winner's, spa day, meet up?

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Does AI write your show summaries? They’re always so succinctly funny

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