Werewolves of the Bayou feat. Jack LaRoche (Premium E318)

Now this one was fun

Osti de tabarnak!? Julien, tu m'as appelé? Je n'ai pas entendu de référence au Québec pourtant! 😆

The french story reminds me of the Outsider by Stephen King

OK but who is this folklorist in Romania and what is the name of this book????

That Stiizy reference had me pointing at my phone like the Leo meme. 🤣

Would love more episodes like this one. Keep it up guys.

Tragic misstep not to get Jacques gonsulin on so we could have two screaming enbys on the pod

One out of every 10 words that Jack says is extremely Southern accented.

As a big Werewolf the apocalypse ttrpg fan I found this super interesting

Haven't given it a listen yet, but it's going to be interesting to hear their takes about my neck of the woods. I grew up off of the coast of the gulf (think 30 mins from the southeastern tip of Louisiana). While I don't carry much love for the area, the Rougarou is a soft spot of mine, being our premier monster of the area. I've been surrounded by the tales of the Rougarou. Mostly it was used as our boogyman as a warning when we'd misbehave or stay out in the swamp too late. As I got older I find it was turned more into a mascot or a "freakshow" style oddity. In fact, a "city" I grew up near (Houma, LA) holds Rougarou-Fest every year. I'll be looking forward to listening to this tomorrow, and I'll try to remember to reply to this post.

Hey guys, maybe you’ve said, but would you rather I subscribe to crooked media or the patreon? maybe patreon takes a cut?

Is someone gonna tell Julian about Islamic cultural attitudes towards dogs? Lol

2k - poc comment wtf lmao

brotherhood of the wolf would be a good movie night

I wonder if that Caddo legend could be traced back to a common ancestor with the supposed proto-indo-European belief that dogs could guide souls into the afterlife. Might be a big stretch, but I love the idea of stories so ancient that they could be traced back to a single source tens of thousands of years ago.

Release the Jake Cut with his coyote B&E

What a wonderful guest and episode. Greatly needed this today!

Gotta mention that the Beast of Gévaudan is also a great Powerwolf song (both English and French versions)

I wanna hear the coyote story!

absolute tragedy to not get the Jake coyote home invasion story

viewer from Minneapolis here, deeply curious if its possible for yall to make us laugh

mention of the snallygaster got me excited at learning of a totally new cryptid for a tattoo but as it turns out it was invented to scare black people. WHY IS EVERYTHING RACIST DAMNIT

someone pointed this out kind of aggressively but “wer” is germanic from old english but does share a common indo-european root with latin vir. there’s even some mentions of werewulf in one of my fave old english poems. also professor snape in the third HP movie mentions thus etymology correctly

Good episode! More cryptids, please.

Brotherhood of the Wolf is an awesome movie.

The "'Were in werewolf supposedly comes from Latin Vir, for Man, but that doesn't make sense because it's mixing Latin and Germanic and this doesn't appear in French etc" argument makes no sense. Anyone with a basic understanding of Germanic languages would also recognize "Were" as a germanic, not Latin, term for "man", as in the word "Weregeld", the Gold (Geld) that had to be paid as compensation for killing a man (Were). Hard to feel like I'm gonna learn anything here..

How is there no talk of An American Werewolf Of London? Also, AMC's Vampire Chronicles has a black Louis (Grey Worm y'all) and Claudia.

It’s vampires who are compelled to count. (Source: Sesame Street)

Interesting episode. I’m an Acadian from Nova Scotia and grew up on stories of the Loup-garou. Usually parents told their kids the story to keep them from roaming around in dangerous places. Where I grew up, there is a patch of woods where local legend says they roam. This area is located on the Southwestern part of the province which is particularly prone to wildfires. And this is where it can get relevant to your podcast. Last summer, Nova Scotia had a severe drought, wildfires in several areas including this particular area, which lead the provincial government to close all the provincial parks and impose a ban on entering the woods due to the wildfire risks, punishable by a $25,000 fine. This lead to the QAnon types claiming this was a “climate lockdown” and the Deep State starting to take away people’s freedom and eventually put us all in “15 minute cities”. The people peddling this were the same people who took part in the trucker convoy. Right-wing media stirred up outrage over it, claiming this was an example of “Trudeau tyranny” (even though Trudeau had nothing to do with it), and threatening civil war over it (most of these figures were not even from Nova Scotia and even some American figures, got in on it, including Elon Musk and JD Vance). One prominent right-wing figure went into the woods in full view of the cops intentionally getting arrested and fined. He filmed the whole thing and then grifted off it, raising more than enough to pay his fine and legal fees… I bet he’s buying some nice shit with the money he got from donations (i think he raised closed to a million) Now, the stories I grew up with, I was told that the Loup-garou roams in these woods and because of that, you should never go back there. This story worked on me as a child, and it also worked to get my ass back in the house by curfew 😂 But there was a reason for this story. This particular stretch of woods, particularly in the summer, is prone to wildfires and parents told their children these stories to keep them away from there because of the risk they could cause a fire (because human activity is the #1 cause of wildfires) or get caught in the woods during a fire and wouldn’t be able to get out. So basically, the story served the same purpose as the provincial government’s $25,000 fine, to keep people out of the woods. I pointed this out to people who were mad about this, that people were concerned about wildfire prevention since the old days and so they made folklore to explain why going back there is not a good idea. There are also stories from the Indigenous people of the area of the Kukwes, a giant hairy man-eating ogre type creature, and it is likely that Mi’kmaw parents told their kids that story so they would stay out of the woods and not start a fire. The Acadian Loup-garou also has some similar characteristics to the Kukwes. I have also heard stories of Loup-garou being in abandoned buildings and junk yards (particularly car scrap yards), places that can be potentially dangerous where parents wouldn’t want their children to be roaming around. I have also heard stories of the Loup-garou being a protective figure during the 1755–1763 exile. During that time, people were rounded up and mass deported, families were torn apart, husbands from wives, parents from children, etc. in my own family history, I descend from someone who was a teenager at the time and he managed to escape to the woods while his parents and two of his siblings were deported to Philadelphia where they died, and the rest of his siblings were deported to Maryland and eventually made their way to Louisiana (I actually met a descendant of this ancestor’s twin brother, who lives in Louisiana, last year and we have so much in common it blew my mind). This ancestor remained in Nova Scotia and had his own family eventually leading to me. Honestly, reading some stories and seeing videos of ICE reminds me of some old stories and lyrics to folks songs about the time period. Some people escaped to the woods and hid in there, but were still being hunted by soldiers and bounty hunters, and it is said that the Loup-garou protected them (I guess this may be where the tales in Louisiana of the Rougarou staying with children so they wouldn’t be alone comes from?) There have also been reported sightings in Nova Scotia. Often described as hairy, usually black, and 10 feet tall with red eyes. There was one sighted in Halifax in the 1960s, and there is actually a police report about it because a police officer fired his service pistol at it and police are required to file a report any time they discharge a firearm. The police officers describes it as large, black, hairy, and walking over cars on the highway, but not necessarily wolf-like . It ran away when it was shot at. It did kill a person, apparently a member of an outlaw biker gang… and yes, there are folk stories from the criminal underworld about this creature going after members of gangs, so there is some belief that this creature goes after criminals.

Loved Jack as a guest, would love if they came back in the future! Great episode

“N-word of” anything shouldn’t leave your lib lips. SMH. Don’t do that shit.

Yeah but if we convince ICE Rougarous are real and that becomes mainstream then Kristi Noem will just go "That guy was not human and therefor not protected by human rights nor eligible for US citizenship and he only died in custody because he no longer had access to YOUR child's blood!"

Aaah, yes. The fabled Aaronsorkin rears his ugly head once more...

My aunt married a Rougarou. It really tore our family apart but she’s happy

Fab episode, and it’s nice to hear from an Indigenous guest!

Is there a bibliography for this one? 👀 I loved this episode so much that I ended up reading a 67 page PDF of a Scandinavian governmental report on wolf attacks, but I'd prefer to get a hold of the books Jack mentioned.

You should do a Brotherhood of the Wolf movie episode, it has everything you need in a 2000's movie, Monica Bellucci, cryptids, baking, martial arts, slow cam, Marc Dacascos for some reason, Monica Bellucci, templars, Monica Bellucci... and it looks great, filmed in 35mm anamorphic and real locations.

This episode brought back some memories of mine from meeting a Cajun artist named George Rodrigue in New Orleans at his gallery in like 2010 before he passed. Rodrigue was an artist known for his cartoonish looking “blue dog” paintings depicting a blue dog with yellow eyes wearing ties, hats, cute outfits and such. I got a chance to talk with him in his gallery and he explained to me that he was told stories as a kid about the Rougarou that scared him a lot, so he painted them as “blue dog” to make them less scary to kids (and to himself). Very cool guy and a great storyteller and artist.

This was fun.

Oh thank god, some cryptozoology to help disassociate from The Horrors.

I _think_ https://bsky.app/profile/coyotespeaks.bsky.social is the right social link for Jack

Great episode. Also great work of fiction worth a read, "The Last Werewolf" by Glen Duncan. Entertaining and existential. Basically, Sartre with fangs and a grin ! 🐺

As a New Orleanian, who has many times hung with the Rougarou at the Audubon Zoo, this ep fucking rocks. Even as y'all pronounce basically every word wrong. Thank you. You made my day.

Modern lore: Counting to 18 keeps the pedos away

The Catman of Greenock (not Glasgow) being referenced caught me well off guard.

Tabernak callis osti!!

Can we get a link to the book by Jack’s friend Alex? It sounds interesting.

liv agar

lol julian time is the 4th dimension

I am still scared of werewolves and I am nearly bloody 50 years old!

“Labubu hanging in Subaru” — I’ve been seen

I’m pretty sure they called Jake a chupacabra because as the lone gringo bus boy he was tantamount to a cryptid sighting. Anyway, this was a wonderful episode and the tie-in to moral panics and conspiracism was spot on. I was also delighted when Jack brought up Reprebos! I’ve always been fascinated by cynocephaly, especially in the Christian lore of the Middle Ages.

Absolute banger

Please do the origin story of the Coked Out Werewolf from Conan O'Brien next.

All time ep right here

The important thing to remember about werewolves is that they’re descended from the ancient Lamanite people, the rivals to the righteous Nephites who were cursed to have a “skin of hair” for their wickedness. The *really* important thing to remember, though, is that there’s a decade-long will-they-won’t-they love triangle where the protagonist can’t choose between the righteous Mormon and the wicked Lamanite. (I don’t know; I was a cinema snob in the 00s and 2010s, so I’m getting my werewolf lore from Wikipedia.)

It’s also just funny to me that it’s like “oh, Logan and Liv are sitting this one out, that tracks” and then it’s they pop up

Love this. Jake, I demand the Romanian vampire podcast episode

Was expecting Julian to talk about Jacques on Seeking Derangements or something based on recent listening habits

Stewart Medium, not Stewart Middle?

Honestly been waiting for something like this. We've already had sasquatches, mothmen and the like lmao

Tell the coyote Jake story! Julian is a censor! :D

Chupacabra is a Puerto Rican cryptid! Farmers claimed it drained their goats of blood, hence the name.

I saw LaRouche and got so excited, but cryptids are just as fun

Stewart Medium is one of the funniest Jake one liners ever lmao

Werewolves ? Hell yeah !! 🤗

I got the stizzy reference, a demon of my freshman year of college

Idk if my life just really sucks or if you guys are just really good, but I missed this podcast an uncomfortable amount over the holidays.

it’s real rougarou hours

Hell yeah! Eurovision next?❤️