Truly, Tradly, Deeply — Inside the Tradosphere with Annie Kelly (E345)
Annie Kelly spent most of 2025 investigating the online world of so-called “traditional wives” or “tradwives.” On this episode she sits down with Travis, Jake, and Julian to talk about her new six-episode miniseries Truly, Tradly, Deeply for the Cursed Media podcast network. Among other discoveries: it’s more difficult than you might think to even properly define “tradwife,” much of the community promotes a fantasy about the pre-internet age, and tradwife content is far less fringe than it used to be.
The first two episodes of “Truly, Tradly, Deeply” will be released on the Cursed Media podcast network on the 29th of October.
Cursed Media subscribers also get access to every episode of every QAA miniseries we produced, including Manclan by Julian Feeld and Annie Kelly, Trickle Down by Travis View, The Spectral Voyager by Jake Rockatansky and Brad Abrahams, and Perverts by Julian Feeld and Liv Agar. Plus, Cursed Media subscribers will get access to at least three new exclusive podcast miniseries every year.
Editing by Corey Klotz. Theme by Nick Sena. Additional music by Pontus Berghe. Theme Vocals by THEY/LIVE (instagram.com/theyylivve / sptfy.com/QrDm). Cover Art by Pedro Correa: (pedrocorrea.com)
QAA was known as the QAnon Anonymous podcast.
Comments (101)
Not surprised. There is seemingly a dumb off-brand, hard-right, antithesis to so many well considered, studied discourses; “Toxic Empathy(cringe)” is like a stupid off-brand version of “Toxic Positivity” that Byung Chul Han has written about at length in his book “Burn Out Society.” He describes how toxic positivity excludes consideration of “the other” and the avoidance of or downright denial of negativity. The conservative trad-wife rejects a primary tool for engaging with the other and acknowledging negativity, namely empathy. I think this is why we should not be surprised that wellness influencers so easily succumb to the right, even if seemly wrought with contradiction. “Self improvement” is inherently antisocial and there is a political ideology for that.
Barbara Ehrenreich also wrote about the problems of positivity in Bright Sided. For one thing, it's another way of promoting extreme personal responsibility over systemic understandings of issues.
Jake absolutely cooking
Took about 43 minutes to get any substance from this episode and then after a few minutes it went back to banter. Then there were a few more minutes of good stuff. The rest was tangential ranting and jokes. Like that stuff too but you didn’t sell this series well here. Are you all going to give us a sample of the series. If there are as many likes from Annie there as there were here, I couldn’t .
wtf u talkin about?
Literally crying at “get the children wet with the bucket”
Still haven’t gotten to this but can’t wait. Dropping in only to plug Cursed Media - I know we’d all prefer it to be part of Patreon but I understand probably why it’s not - But for the record. The bonus interviews for Science in Transition are excellent and worth $25 on their own
Okay I got to it - so pumped for the series all over again!! Cannot wait to learn more about the Trads -
As an impossibly chested woman myself I’m glad we finally get representation online.
Please don’t mistreat Andrews! My older son is a really nice Andrew completely unrelated to the royal pedo!
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That's Dr. Kelly to you
"She can say words theologically but she can't preach"? The fuck does that even mean? Like from an evangelical perspective, what does he think he's saying?
You have to frame it around the notion that preaching, in there perspective, is spreading the word of the lord. But in this twisted edition, ladies are "by god's design" not allowed/enabled/capable of channeling god's word. They could even say the same things a ball dangler would, but this guy is essentially saying those words aren't authentic or to be trusted. Weird twisted misogynistic stuff akin to not allowing a lady to carve the turkey at Christmas dinner
56:02 Jake needs to write a short film
I'd like to push back on the whole "our brains weren't meant to do this" thing. Our brains were meant to help us cross the Pacific Ocean. We went to the moon. We've evolved way past hunter gatherer societies. This is who we are. Instead of trying to run from it, we need to learn how to live with it. Big Julian W in this episode. Think he was spot on in the last bit.
No our brains were literally not meant to take in data at the rate and quantity most people now take for granted
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Annie! ❤️🤘🎸
We called toxic empathy concern trolling back in my day.
“It puts the lotion on its skin or else it gets the children wet with the bucket again”
Neosapians. Nice Exo Squad throwback.
Annie Kelly! Oh goody, oh goody, oh goody!
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Julian, you can absolutely get away with threatening trad wives with summary execution. In fact, as a woman, I would consider it sexist for you to exclude us from your stochastic terror program
Jake absolutely telling on himself with his algo
Brb wetting the kids with a bucket real quick
The real tradwife life is just The VVitch.
Great movie! Black Phillip rules 🐐
Annieeeeeeee 💖💖💖
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The work Annie does is topical, fascinating, smart and important. Her series on the manosphere largely focused on young men. I would be interested to hear her re visit the topic through the lens of men in their 50-70s (boomers). My father in law, and my friends dads, have really fallen in and I don’t think that’s been talked about enough. So strange that fathers who are empty nesters have so much in common with crypto bros / MAHA / Tate and the like. But it makes sense! Isolation, phone addiction, disposable income, health concerns, resenmentt towards wives and gfs.
Annie Kelly!
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They took the farm back in 15, but if they want the wooden bucket, they'll have to pry it from my cold dead hands.
#WetWithTheBucket
I can't remember what podcast it was, but one of the hosts said that tradwifeism is hikikomori for women
The Boomer Jake episode lol
When will the “get the children wet with the bucket” merch be available?
Fantastic episode excited to listen to the series. Also love Anne's son in the background thank you for keeping it in the episode. It makes me feel better about the occasional call where I'm I get a random scream in the background
Annie thank you for covering this topic. I can remember 30 years ago I caught wind of this completely uniformed anti-feminist movement from women younger than me (I’m older GenX) and I was gobsmacked. 40 years ago!! I hoped it was a phase. I myself didn’t realize much of the 9-5 movement until I was weelllllll into adulthood.
The fact that Julian is allowed to casually make death threats to literally anyone and everyone on this show is the main reason I’m canceling my Patreon. Honestly shameful behavior for both him and the rest of the crew who tolerate it.
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I wish I could listen to Annie as she has such interesting topics. Unfortunately I have misophonia and get panic attacks listening to her. I wish for nothing more than for her to get a microphone cover or move away from the mic so I can listen to her episodes.
There are several podcasts I've tried to listen but couldn't to because of the mouth noises. It seems like when you get to a certain level, you should have heard of a pop filter. A decent one is not expensive. And if you can hire an editor, there's even less excuse. Every DAW has pop filters or click filters that can be applied to a file to reduce mouth noise.
Julian came in hot and then disappeared halfway through the episode
Yeah, he’s been the last straw for me frankly. Been a listener and patreon for several years now. I just can’t do it with the death threats and lack of any kind of a filter.
Women I watch who do 'colonial reenactment cooking content' are the real trad wives. let's see those sluts on TikTok slaughter and defeather some chickens
Impossibly Chested is the name of my new pirate themed escape room/brothel
So I work on women who got PhDs in my particular humanities field in the 3rd Reich and none, and I mean NONE of this is new. God this has been hard to listen to. Great work as always!
The Witch mentioned 🖤, very apt reference Julian! V excited for the series
Andrew formerly known as Prince
QAA unc’s have taken it too far. Annie’s child cannot even talk yet, and they are making the poor thing be on podcasts! First Liv; now this. For shame! 😝 Let the kids be kids, Jake
They arent trying to return to a any real past, no one lived that way. They are trying to get back to an ideal future that has long been discarded.
Great episode but I cannot believe they didn’t get Liv for this one
Top tier episode for all of you. And Jake, I knew exactly what you were referring to with “getting the children wet with the bucket” lolllll
ANNIE! As a stay at home mother, I so much appreciate you differentiating the two!
I often look at trad stuff as a contrast to cottagecore that more left leaning people long for. We all want the same basic thing which is away from the mental cancer that is the internet and scrolling to a simpler way of being. The problem is that trad freaks decided to duct tape the fourteen words to the desire to touch grass.
Yay, a new Annie Kelly series! Take my money! I have carefully curated my Instagram feed to be 99% pictures of mushrooms, which I recommend but now I also know that I have to stay on twitter to support my demographic. So, swings and roundabouts, really.
This! 🙌 Well done on the mushrooms too 👊
star citizen content, yes yes, famously non-toxic
Every trad wife comes off as the dumbest mean girl that was either too stupid or too incompetent to become a nurse.
Still kind of frustrated/disappointed that these miniseries, which were previously just part of the premium feed, are now a separate feed/payment With the payment being a lump sum per year, there a feasible reason that I shouldn’t wait like a whole year from now so I know what I’m paying for ahead of time?
I sincerely don’t get the frustration. I signed onto Patreon for my regular QAA and a premium ep. I was generously then given moar content. And now when one of my fav pods wants to grab their bag and spin all this extra delicious content into a brand new thing which is the fruit of their work and success so far, suddenly people start demanding - no no how dare you take away my extra content (which they didn’t, the stuff they made is still available, only the new stuff is on their new platform). Like wtf man.
ANNIE episode!!!! Finally!!!!!!!!
Jake! Drifting over to 2k videos while Annie is speaking?!? Focus up!
people aren't longing to be in the past, they are longing for liberation!
first, I have never clicked play on something so fast! so glad Annie is back! but also is there some way y'all could eventually merge the patreon and cursed media or put the mini series out later or something? I'd pay for a higher tier on here if I could just get it in the normal feed. I also can't really justify paying for the patreon and the separate subscription when I originally paid for the patreon to get the mini series! even a discount for patrons would go a long way. please consider!
Same!
Will the cursed media podcasts ever be available on Patreon? I’m literally willing to pay more for the privilege of not having to use multiple podcast platforms.
I think you could sync them with your podcast app.
Complementarian is a trigger word for me.
I prefer condimentarians. People who just like fancy mustard and stuff.
Do you know?
I'm charmed each time Annie says it
Yesss an Annie episode!
Jake is exactly right. Most of the performative bullshit is people trying to crush their own conscience.
Welcome to the island, Julian. If you ever want to come to Toyama, I can show you around.
ANNIE KELLY LETS GOOOOOOO
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So happy to see Annie back! I was raised in a very insular, conservative, remote and subsistence life that's the model for tradfluencers. Thanks to decades of therapy and self-reflection I'm ready to learn about the current iteration of my upbringing. You can pry the extreme flavor chips from my cold dead hands.
Congrats on getting out and building a life, you’re amazing for that
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I can't help but giggle at Annie's kid in the background. The very audible "No!" Man I know that no lol. Honestly hearing him in the background made the horrors they were discussing feel more balanced.
Allie Stuckey is Serena Joy
Yessssssssssss my two fixations in one podcast, I'm so excited I could vomit
Part of this episode made me think of the female homesteading/crafting accounts on instagram that now specify they ARENT right wing because that aesthetic is so conservative coded. Ie those videos of the beautiful cottagecore house with perfect sourdough and the text says something like “this and pro science, this and women’s right, this and lgbt support”
Or the “when you find out I’m this kind of homesteader: 💉🌈✊ not this:🥛🔫🥩” captions
It is genuinely alarming how mainstream this all is. I used to end up on Mormon blogs when I was trying to find tips to get stains out of laundry, but that was really the tip of the iceberg
We need an Inside the Travosphere episode with Travis
We're all living in the Travosphere now, baby
If I subscribe to QAA will I get all the stuff in the cursed media network? Or do I need to sign up separately and pay the annual fee? Is QAA included? Is it separate from Patreon?
I am a Patreon subscriber to QAA and then I subscribed separately to Cursed Media to get the miniseries. Here’s the explanation from my feed: Cursed Media subscribers get access to every episode of every QAA miniseries we produced, including Manclan by Julian Feeld and Annie Kelly, Trickle Down by Travis View, The Spectral Voyager by Jake Rockatansky and Brad Abrahams, and Perverts by Julian Feeld and Liv Agar. Plus, Cursed Media subscribers will get access to at least three new exclusive podcast miniseries every year. https://www.cursedmedia.net/
LET’S FUCKING GOOOOOO ANNIE KELLY !! I cannot wait to binge the entire series
Annie Kelly
One of the good Kelly's
Annie!
Annie Kelly
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First?
Congrats, Dave!