See You In Valhalla, Charlie (E341)

Back for a second listen. Can QAA do a deep dive into Erika Kirk? Nikki F and others are dissecting some interesting background stories about her 'manicured mourning' lolz

Okay, I had to come back to this. After watching an episode of 9-1-1, to keep up with the episodes to watch the new season where they are in space, there was a police funeral and they said: We have the watch. It’s not from GoT lmfao. It’s a thing they say in law enforcement. Kinda ridiculous in hindsight to make that connection tbh.

honestly, disappointingly lib episode. the fash are always looking for a reichstag fire, and so they will always find it. and like. "political assasination is now on the table" oh no. guys. the CIA was trying to kill castro until the day he died. president obama literally oversaw the assasination of thousands of afghans and iraqis. he *personally authorized* a drone assasination of an american citizen. political assasination was never off the table in this country. Youre just upset that the colonial violence has rebounded to the imperial core, which was *inevitable*. Im sorry if these events made you feel unsafe. welcome to the world the rest of us have always been living in.

There is no federal statute allowing them to prosecute unless they make a very long chain and say he was rackateering.

You know in DC no one is allowed on roofs? There’s a reason for that. And that’s why the DC sniper killed so many people is because he did it from a modified back seat of a car. Having security on high ground is so basic. It’s in movies. I just don’t think Charlie Kirk understood he was offending people

There is this Black Kirk apologist who is otherwise pretty smart but in defending that exact clip from Charlie Kirk used the Oxford definition of racist to say why it wasn’t racist. And if you read the opinion in Plessy Vs Ferguson , they use the exact same wording in establishing why segregation isn’t discrimination. And I’m like what is compelling this very logical and reasonable Black guy who went to Harvard say things that are so obviously racist are not racist? And you answered it - it’s money. And now I feel better.

Jake, I have only one question: Have you tried the Foster Freeze (I know the one you're referring to) and is it any good? It looks like it could either have great food, or simply have a great retro look with food that was only good back in the day…

Oof-this commentary about the left desperately trying to frame Kirk’s shooter as a groyper really misses the point that most people on the left are finally realizing that they’re under attack from this administration and are hoping that if the shooter is a groyper, the administration may not use Kirk’s murder as an excuse to round up leftists. The left en masse is only just waking up to the fact they live under authoritarianism but are still under the delusion that have any power to shape narratives while they wait for institutions to save them.

Point of clarification: in standard Catholic theology (idk what Protestants or the Orthodox believe), animals indeed have souls, as do all living creatures afaict, but these souls are mortal and annihilated upon death, unlike human souls, which are immortal and go on to an afterlife after death. We don't believe in the Rapture, so it's not relevant to the episode theme, but I thought I'd let you know in case you're curious. Great and depressing episode

I would love it if QAA could bring back a legal correspondent - can’t remember who they used to have but I do remember enjoying their expertise. Edited because I’ve already complained once today in this forum and that’s enough. Unfortunately still hopelessly addicted to QAA

I think a problem for all of us is that we expect conspiracies to be of one piece, not least because we turn to them to explain a complicated reality in simpler terms. But realistically there is no reason why there could not be multiple factions within the Trump administration running different conspiracies around the Kirk assassination and getting in each others way with none of them daring to call the others lies because that might expose their own.

I find it weird that the title of the episode was so little researched and so little discussed. It didn’t occur to anyone on the cast that “See you in Valhalla” was also in the manifesto for the Pittsburgh and the New Zealand attackers? Maybe it’s actually nothing?, but if so why?

I get that these podcasters maybe genuinely think both sides are the same and whatever other flattening they wanna do as political nihilists, but when is gonna be a good time to discuss how an assassin like this comes to be. I get that they don’t have all the answers but can we not even .. discuss possible avenues for his radicalization for fear of becoming conspiracized?

I was so glad to hear that the host of the Man Show finally got cancelled

https://youtube.com/shorts/uK0YzNQadPg?si=4b_5H8I_JDaAcmWn Brief explainer on Kirk’s family

I know I'm a couple days late- but it was great to hear Travis make a jab at Julian in the future update. How refreshing!

I'm so desperate for just one of those reporters who have to deal with Trump's stupid whining to respond. Just call him a stupid asshole on live television and he might get so mad he screams until he shits himself and falls over

I like that all the teams that honored Charlie lost. God frowns upon podcasters, they do not have the mandate of heaven. This is not a place of honor

Who knew the only thing Charlie Kirk couldnt out debate was a bullet lmao

Jakey boy, you have in fact earned your, “I toda so”. Damn your specific genius

Man I hope none of Liv’s bisexual Reddit chaser former paramours are listening, they’ll realize how cringe they are

Jake you need to watch creature commandos and then look up the discourse that's happening on Tiktok with GI Robot. It feels so perfectly Jake

Thank you for talking sense. I couldn't even listen to the stand-up comedian Sammy Obeid make the text exchange for laughs. And Mehdi Hasan has also lost his mind over this. We have to hold the line against conspiracy thinking. We have to.

*boofs the podcast* UwU

Well said Jake! The almighty dollar.

Love Liv but it is a little annoying she keeps scolding people for running with the idea that the shooter was right wing without evidence when she initially ran with the idea that he was left wing without any evidence either. Made a tweet about it right after the fact then deleted and is now pretending it never happened

No Julian, but we got Jake quoting Ricky. Ty for your solidarity with my stupid ass country

Where’s Julian

I’ve fired a 30-6 round many times for target shooting as a kid. I don’t believe Charlie was shot with that same round. It’s a large bullet with a large charge, designed to take down large animals like deer. I’ve seen what it does to fruit and ballistic gel. It would have been much messier, and people behind him would have been in danger too. That’s my only real gripe with the current situation.

Julian’s favorite TV show 🤣

I'm German and this whole thing reminds me so much of what the Nazis did with Horst Wessel. History might not repeat but it's sure heavy on the rhyming

A 3 book trilogy. Classic Jake

Hey! I’ll admit I wanted to believe some of those conspiracies! Conspiracies are fun! Why do you think I’m subbed to this pod??

I appreciate QAA, Chapo, & the guys on Trillbilly Workers Party for speaking about this honestly when the rest of us are worried we’ll lose our jobs if we speak up personally.

I know people are scratching their heads wondering why Robinson would do this, but I think I might understand. Powerlessness. People like Kirk say the most heinous things on our timelines everyday. The government is controlled by people who are like Kirk. The media is scared of crossing the Kirks now. What can you do? Vote? Will that even matter in the near future? But then you think: what about violence? Acquiring a firearm is easy. With enough practice anyone can become a crack shot. Pick the right target and you might be able to change something. If not, then at least you tried. That feels better than not doing anything at all Violence is the last form of agency for someone who's been completely disempowered by a callous system. I don't condone violence, of course, but I understand why it's appealing

From a Reddit comment since I am fucking lazy: hypernormalization is a term coined by alexei yurchak to describe a social condition in which a people have become so thoroughly propagandized that patently obvious dysfunction, such as lying, corruption, inefficiency, and death have become so normalized ("hypernormalized") that people can't effectively question them, as they've lost the ability to imagine a world that was any different. this state of belief effectively neutralizes a society's ability to understand, and therefore to rectify, its own problems. from the introduction of a BBC documentary on this topic: We live in a world where the powerful deceive us. We know they lie, they know we know they lie, they don’t care. We say we care, but we do nothing. And nothing ever changes. It’s normal. Welcome to the post-truth world.

What’s crazy is even some on the right were saying the text messages from Tyler Robinson seemed fake. Steve Bannon for example. We have basically reached a conspiracy theorist singularity. Patel’s inexperience is only fueling the conspiracy theory fires. In the course of a week, MAGA went from ‘hang the libs’ to ‘I think the Trump administration is lying to us.’ Total disillusionment.

Oh yeah… Liv Agar

We have the watch is an old military term thrown around in the Navy when I was in

Also, Charlie Kirk is now the modern day Horst Wessel. "Prove me wrong", as they say.

Thanks, Liv. Every time I've seen the Bella Ciao thing or the Slav squat image being paraded as potential proof of extreme right leanings, I've thought: Am I the crazy one here? A very well known (on the left, that is) partisan song being included on some fucking playlist, and a photo where he just does a Slav squat, i.e. a thing that was well established long before someone made a Pepe meme out of it? Is this seriously your evidence?

Why did they go after Kimmel: I believe (a) it was King 🍊 himself who ordered it (b) he was not mad about the "maga gang" thing, it was the part about his ballroom and the goldfish

liv agar

25:25 Jake openly admitting the podcast was just a another low-effort pull at the slots bc his gaming podcast flopped and he hated his job is so crazy. What contempt for the audience. He really owes his life and soul to Travis for making the podcast listenable.

I found Jake’s comments about watching the two “teams” from the bleachers extremely relatable. This podcast has done the exact same for me and I’m sure so many others. My hope is that some day we’ll look around and see more people in the bleachers than on the field, and the citizens can once again impact… something. One thing is pretty clear, no one who starts watching from the cheap seats will ever voluntarily go back on that field.

I feel like fury road is way to dry

Trump probably thinks Charlie is a loser for dying via sniper's bullet. Trump didn't die, only losers die. Robbie, your dad and uncle, total losers

Man i fuckin love fury road

How about the idea that the shooter was sent back from the future to save us from a future dictator or facilitator to fascism? Not exactly the " baby Hitler" problem here , possibly just a Lee Atwater ( recent BtBs series on this guy - good candidate for the time - travelling assassin ). Surely some BlueAnon has suggested this by now ! Perhaps not that pilled.

mentioning getting involved with this shit in 2018 makes me realize that was 7 years ago. Goddamn we've been dealing with Q for so long....

So Charlie being a cuck for right wing billionaires since 18 makes so much sense. I hope there's another timeline where Charlie just sells Cutco knives

Julian not being here for this episode was probably a good thing lol

Apparently the rapture was yesterday? Episode pls?

Sorry to Travis for getting involved with his crazy Twitter stalker (in defence, but still)

See you in Gay Heaven.

Appreciated Jake’s comparison to feeling like he’s watching from the stands. Really soul crushing to watch this culture war play out. QAA definitely offers a way to know that I’m not the only one who thinks this is dumb.

“We have the watch” is used in military funerals. In the navy it follows “rest your oars”. It’s incredibly moving. Just not in this incident.

Not very hard. "see you in valhalla" is just a nod to neo nazis. there's nothing more than that. Internet 4chan highfive to the chuds

LOL at future Travis little dig at Julian.

The text messages are just so strange to me. That’s the thing I can’t shake. You know when you read something and it just…doesn’t look right? Everything just seems to be jargon that a terminally online 22 year old just wouldn’t use. And he uses “cop talk” in some of the messages. I don’t know. I DO believe this kid did it. That he had incoherent politics (like a few shooters we’ve seen in the past) and that he likely did object to some of Kirk’s views. Just can’t shake the texts.

It was exhausting going to online leftist spaces and seeing people "on my side" openly baking dumb conspiracy shit around this just because it would fit their narrative and world view. Not even just anonymous people though, I saw interviews with supposed 'online extremism experts' spouting that shame shit about the ciao bella ciao bullet casings being on a groyper playlist and it's like "oh you really just grabbed some dumb shit from reddit and are passing it off as your own expertise and research huh". Everyone is a conspiracy theorist now and the little bubbles that form online between like minded people means shit gets baked so fast that within hours people are looking up Halloween costumes from 10 years ago as proof of their nonsense.

A more equitable society in the Disney Lagoon.

I was getting nervous that we would not get a Ghostbusters reference this ep. My faith is restored.

"we have the watch" is general military jargon.

The reverse pinnochio metaphor was perfect

Idk I think you're right to pour cold water on people baking this and saying the texts are fake but then you read it aloud and it still sounds like BS. I don't have a hard time believing he did it because he couldn't stand Kirk disparaging someone he loved but I just have a hard time believing those messages are real.

I hate this entire timeline. Regarding the shooter, I can't help but think he was a product of the total polarization of American society. Apparently raised in a traditional Red area where guns are part of everyday life and the 2nd Amendment is sacred. He probably went out into the world and got very angry because he finally met other people. And what had he been taught all his life? Smite your enemies. So utterly broken, even in the defense of nobler ideals he had no tools for how to process this and he broke. He is not to be pitied but I take this to show the culture is just death now.

I thought "we have the watch" was an operator thing, which if you think about Kash is actually even funnier than a GoT thing

Hilarious. I've loved QAA since 2019 but I have to say the modern iteration is my favourite. Imagine starting a great pod but then expanding and getting better and better. Wtf!? We are blessed 😫✨️

Kirk was a Nazi asshole. A real piece of shit. He didn’t deserve to get shot and killed.

I was hoping the auto-q would be that clip of Julian saying “I’m Jimmy Kimmel” in that fucked up little voice when he was actually talking about Jimmy Fallon

“Looking up”. God, I love Liv.

Count me in as one who is extremely skeptical about the text messages. High school English teacher here and I just don’t buy it. Not from a 22 year old.

I listened to True Anon's episode on Kirk's life, but Travis really put it in perspective for me by pointing out that he basically did this for his entire adult life. Very specific character type.

How is marrying Obama affirmative action?

Would 100% pay to see Jake’s Mad Max in the Coachella Valley Disney planned community movie. Q runs deep in this desert. Also, can easily see this being an A24 joint.

Jake: The Enlightened Centrist

It sounds more like they have some actual ⌚️ that Charlie had been obsessing over.

I was hoping for something else, it is depressing enough with the Far Right having having so much leverage on the left, that it would be a miracle if they loose the next election, also the rapture was suppose to happen today!

What Kashie P really meant was expressing his and Charlie's shared love for indie cyberpunk bartending/visual novel game, VA-11 Hall-A

My dad asked if I had heard of him before this, and I said "yes, but I am very online". A personal low. But also happy to find out my parents are safely offline.

The Minnesota Vikings held a moment of silence for the Annunciation shooting at their home opener and didn't mention Kirk thankfully.

Damn Jake doin Joe Pesci dirty at 53:51

Even before listening, I have to say that Nazis don't go to Valhalla.

It’s not about MadMax. Overzealous cops and bro vets are obsessed with Valhalla and dying a “wArRiOr DeAtH”.

Travis said a swear!

Oh thank fuck I needed something to disassociate to as a little treat

Should’ve named the ep “I’ll See You in Gay Heaven, Charlie” but I guess that kind of thing gets you canceled now that comedy is legal. What a shame.

I get it, Travis. I myself was banned from Blue Sky for 3 days like right before it happened, so I had to text my building's group chat to make fun of it instead.

Teddy ❤️

Obligatory Eurovision request💕🌸💐🎀🌷💝

Not Jake discovering a Cutco hustler

his death feels like a real like, victory for the hypereal? like the most practical, material thing for which there are actual solutions for, the whole gun violence issue, is basically the thing that matters the least in all of this, the thing thats real is the tv guy, and the signs and signifiers of leftism and transness are more frightening and real to these people than the present actual risk of getting killed in a shooting

I can't fault anyone who sees this spectacle and thinks "INSIDE JOB". IMO, it's much likelier a dork tried to be epic, and that the right had been prepared for years to take advantage of such a moment. But also, shit, crazier things have been proven true! I'm looking at the odds Bongino will try to photocopy his nuts but accidentally fax every single smoking gun to WAPO or stg

“type of guy” on the Night’s Watch - Liv, you mean bastards, virgins and second sons! Incidentally, I watched like an hour of Jon Snow supercuts on youtube last night for Research reasons 🐺

I can’t believe Julian is responsible for Jake’s Marriage, I’m still taking that in from the last ep

Any hot leads on dinar y'all don't mind sharing with a fellow hustler?

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"We have the watch" is classic cop talk. Pretty commonly heard at cop and firefighter funerals.

Aiv Lgar

Kash rules erry thing around me

Liv Agar

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See you in Agar, Liv