The Assassination of Charlie Kirk (E340)
Liv, Jake, and Julian take a look at multiple conspiracy theories forming in the wake of Charlie Kirk’s murder.
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Re: Charlie’s martyrdom. You should look into a guy named Horst Wessel. Eerie and predictable parallels
Just checked to see if Behind the Bastards had done an episode on him. He's mentioned in the notes on one of the holocaust episodes from October 13 , 2020.
Re: the ai convo.. the other day, I was on a call with my car ins company and was suddenly overcome with the suspicion that the agent was an AI bot. I decided they weren’t because of some verbal blunders, and then I thought “If I wanted AI to sound real, that’s exactly the kind of detail I’d include”. Terrifying
I’m not happy anyone shot anyone bc that is scary but I am happy Charlie Kirk is dead. He sucked. A person who sucks can die tragically. And I would be more comfortable if he just had an aneurism, but yeah. It happened and I can’t make it different so in light of it being an event among several events - Good riddance.
Excellent episode but looking forward to hearing updates about all of this; activities from this week alone (2015 HST on Sept. 17th as I write this) have added several additional chapters... For example, at least for me, it will be interesting to hear rhetoric from Bill Maher (Friday) and John Oliver (Sunday)- given [Julian's favorite] Kimmel didn't even go on air tonight. What's next? Who knows... 20250920 Update: * Maher: My take is that he pulled his punches, dancing around some topics and completely avoiding others- but I would be curious what others think. * John Oliver? We'll find out on Sunday.... As for QAA, still curious... an update from Annie after orange one's UK visit would be interesting, but always up for whatever...
Kimmel was pulled off the air. Trump is using this as fodder to silence free speech they good so dear.
goddamn, Years of Lead Paint is right. I remember thinking that one during January 6th lol
I’d just like to point out another reason this whole “professional assassination” narrative is Alex Jones type bullshit. even though this guy did use a scope, 200m was/is medium-long range for an M1903 Springfield, which his rifle was functionally a modernization of, at the time of its induction into US army arsenals. A trained rifleman would be expected to consistently hit a still target at that range and further using iron sights. (in fact adjustable sights for contemporaries of those rifles can be zeroed to at least 600m and some like the SMLE-MK3 can zero to ridiculous distances like 2km, although a hit at that range would take divine amounts of luck or a spotter doing lots of math for you and an accurate to the second weather report) People do that shit (200m not 2km) with irons at my local range with lighter rifle calibers daily. it would take an experienced rifle shooter and a cold heart to hit a person on center with the first shot at that distance, especially sans scope, but there are many experienced shooters and cold hearts in this world unfortunately.
AAAAAA Liv <3 thank-you for the special bit of empathy for mentioning Wabber and his bootlicking ways. Sincerely -- the only Manitoban who listens to this podcast?
Yeah what in the fuck was that? Such a surreal moment in Canadian politics. I have friends and family who have no idea who Charlie Kirk is. I'm in Ontario, I wonder how many Canadians subscribe to QAA.
liv agar
Whoa ! Brave decision to cover a topic like this without Travis . It worked though. Great episode, great analysis of what we know so far - looking forward to the updates. Still missing Travis though ❤️
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Jake using Edge as his browser is so unc-coded
My girlfriend is pretty online and heavily involved in politics (more local than domestic) and I had to explain to her what the Groyper movement was over FaceTime last night and I swear to Jesus I lost brain cells during that conversation. We’re so fucked lol
I know a girl that was there…she accidentally got a video of the moment, honestly horrible to watch. It was a one in a million shot
do you mean the camera shot or the rifle shot? that type of shot, unfortunately for many people throughout history, is relatively easy for someone who’s an experienced rifle shooter.
The Elder Tiktok brings Frankie Macdonald swag to an assassination react video
The victim game is truly the USAmerican national sport. Whoever can claim the most victimhood wins. My guess is it's because they're such a deeply Christian culture.
It’s more the Protestantism. There’s this weird “life is meant for suffering until your final reward” kind of sentiment. Therefore, everyone has an unholy burden.
I knew if Julian was in this episode there was going to be a lot of bleeps.
someone please make hideo kojima hire jake for voice over
Currently listening to this episode while cleaning an apartment building, and right when Julian was talking about this being in the zeitgeist I could hear someone listening to the news about it when I walked by their door.
damn, the internet really puts Hegel into a new light again and again…
Jake, I had an abnormally ugly cry after hearing you get emotional 😢. I feel the same way. This is just so god damn ridiculous and just soul crushing where we have arrived in 8 FUCKING MONTHS of this. I have had to up my anxiety medication 3 times since January. This is NOT sustainable.
Smoke weed erry day
Does anyone know the title of the episode related to Helldivers? Curious. I want to listen.
We love the starship troopers
I'll mourn him the same way I mourned James Dobson, which is not one fucking bit. That said, I'd prefer he wasn't murdered. I was hoping he'd go out having an orgasm while getting a golden shower from a black gay trans female college professor.
I’ve been waiting for this podcast, not for humor but your take on it, and now he’s some godly martyr to the far-right. Also I hope you guys talk about the gen z revolution in Nepal.
YES the hope for our generation to not all be children of the grave is growing, slowly but surely https://open.spotify.com/track/5clz8BOBulxx7q2yHxqOCk?si=eb56QPmJTkCbW2oMZ5iBPw
Sorry why is anyone still using Twitter? It’s horrible
Re: what Jake said about watching/seeing fucked up things on the internet when you're young. When I was young, looking at the most fucked up things you could was *it*. I don't know if it was part of edgy 90s shit sliding into the 2000s or what, but it was everywhere. Orgish. Random gore from animal kingdom videos. War clips. I have seen some shit, and I don't even know why. You see something terrible, and it feels like something cold and confusing has been pushed into you like a nail. And then you watch another one. I would highly encourage anyone to *not* do this, because it doesn't do anything great. But only a teenager would be dumb enough to Clockwork Orange themselves.
the butcher’s nails… mine were not acquired the same way, i had both more and less choice in different aspects, but 🤝
I've been waiting for this
Same. Been refreshing every few hours.
Oh sweet Jake, I felt his pain when it slipped through toward the end. 🥺 The R. Budd Dwyer video probably set me on my current path, in spite of being raised on Rotten and Ogrish.
Really wish you all had the wherewithall to use 'alleged' when saying Tyler IS the killer. Not only is that possibly incorrect, he hasn't been convicted and it's all speculation atm.
I teach middle school. Imagine hearing this insanely baked shit from a literal child 😮💨😫
Quit Twitter. Almost every episode the hosts talk how shitty it is, yet continue to use it. Quit.
Agreed, I got perma-banned about a year ago for saying "can't wait for these hateful boomers to all die off" in the replies of my local paper running an anti-trans screed op-ed. Was initially salty, but use BlueSky instead and have not missed it at all.
As the kids say, Liv Agar.
Indeed
Months full of weeks where decades happen
A couple of episodes ago, I forget which one, Jake was talking about how he feels trapped in this awful online world, and it hit me hard. Especially over the last few months... and weeks... and days, I feel trapped. Every time I look at the news or go online, it's just a deluge of hate and conspiracy. Even just with minimal exposure, with just a few podcasts, it's starting to make me feel depressed and physically ill at times. I really like the people involved in QAA, but I'm feeling burned out on the subject matter. So, if you all want to do some sort of spin-off series that's aggressively dedicated to happy stuff, with zero politics and conspiracy, I'd be down for that. I'd be more than happy to just listen to you all talk about the movies, music, and other stuff you like. At this point, I'd listen to Jake talk about proton packs for hours just to soothe me out of this state of constant anxiety and dread.
You it's dark when there's no Ghostbusters or Weezer references.
The versions I saw in my chats of the "the video was AI" bake were that it was either generated in full because he couldn't be fucked to record a real video, or what Julian mentioned, that they had to do multiple takes and had a model stitch together the parts that worked from each. I don't believe the first one at all (someone pointed to a pinky finger disappearing around 0:18, but to me it looked plausibly like he just folded it in) and didn't see anything that looked like a smoking gun for the stitching theory, but that one was kind of a "I guess it's possible?". Because yeah it does have an uncanny quality to it. I suppose the "to what end" would be that he's too far gone to follow the teleprompter through a single full take and that his staff are lazy and inattentive enough to just let the first thing a computer sharts out cover for that. But like... It's not like either of those things are shocking news, whether this statement is an actual demonstration of that or not. He has his staff tweet out shitty AI Apocalypse Now pastiches on his account and is then probably genuinely unaware that happened when reporters ask. Big whoop.
The first time I saw the video of it, it was actually some meme where someone cut the video at the exact moment it happened, and then continued with AI where he pulled out a sign that said "I'm dead" and bobbed back and forth
Small nitpick, but, Liv refers to Harrison Smith as former InfoWars pundit, but he still hosts a show on that network to this day, he was literally hosting as the news came into the studio.
If you haven’t listened to Knowledge Fight’s coverage of this episode of IW, I strongly recommend it.
Sorry guys dont need to be a marksman to make that shot. I suck at shooting and even I could train jake to do it in a weekend, so long as noone distracted us with stretch Armstrong talk
200 yards against a stationary target with a low-end hunting rifle is something a twelve year old could do. Very basic public shooting ranges ( for rifles ) in the US usually go out to between 200-300 yards. If your eyes weren't bad, you wouldn't even need a scope.
Julian's anecdote about Australian baristas discussing this is a symptom of the fact that the English-speaking internet is literally just the American internet. We have our own stuff too obviously but the sheer volume of sludge which issues from the American internet sewer pipe is impossible to overwhelm, we have a population of roughly 25m people so we just can't keep up.
Also what else would we discuss? Bob wasn't threatening anyone that day
RIP bozo. Hope its warm down there
“Known trans porn watcher and Blaire White dl trade Alex Jones” just rolled past without comment i was not prepared for thos
RIGHT!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Liv agar
When I saw him get shot I hoped he survived, becaues him dying will make him a martyr and he'll be used to radicalise young conservatives to their hateful cause, world has indeed become enshitified
WSJ didn’t use Crowder as a source. They used the same source as he did which is some dumbass FBI/ATF agent.
Every source saying "according to the fbi" or utah law enforcement... like... no. I don't want to hear from them.
We don't deserve Liv Agar
My partner is playing audio clips for everyone who comes in to his work (local tip) claiming shock over Kirk’s death. An entirely different kind of shock sets in when they hear who the man was in his own words.
How long does anyone think Kash Patel was hiding in the toilet that day pretending to have the world's longest shit while he trying to comprehend how out of his depth he is lol
genuinely incredible that his last moments were spent propping up a dig at black people. such a beautiful demonstration of the way the desire to pwn your enemies takes precedence over your own welfare
millions of years of evolution and pure chance gave him the miracle of life, and the very last thing he does with his sentience is this schlock. what a waste, what a waste of everything. maybe he wasn’t the one to start the fire but it’s impossible for me to feel sorry for him
People showing feelings of positivity at a truly irredeemable unapologetic propagandist's death isn't surprising it's perhaps one of the more human aspects of, uh, humanity to expect, it's in all our stories our books, plays, songs, films, games, etc etc - tbh it would be weirder *not* seeing such reactions from our emotional and codependent species, it's the rewriting and whitewashing of history the media and political class are doing that's far more alienating and unsettling...like what do people expect after over 3 years of live-streamed genocide the west still breathlessly funds, arms and launders while gaslighting anyone who dares try to criticise, pummels society's shared psychology/mental health? People aren't robots, well, other than Ritchie Torres I spose. - - - - Though the eagerness of so many now trying to fill incompetent gaps of information with their own pet conspiracy theories across the whole political spectrum is certainly alarming. It's not even that mysterious but people are itching so bad over this one. I was supposed to be the mentally ill one before all this and instead of getting better I've been watching the rest of the world get worse coming down to my level then dropping way further beyond that and like wtf this feels like sanity's equivalent of an optical illusion lol
Calling Kirk ‘niche’ American politics seems wild. His popularity where I live (Midwest) is maybe even higher than Trumps.
I get this I think HE'S niche, but his fan base is broad af. And I also think his base is broad BECAUSE most aren't aware of the specific abhorrent shit he said.
Jake sounded like he was about to cry at the end
I love him for that 🥹
Mistah potato head- he dead A penny for the old guy We are the hollow men We are the stuffed men Leaning together Headpiece filled with straw. Alas! Our dried voices, when We whisper together Are quiet and meaningless As wind in dry grass Or rats' feet over broken glass In our dry cellar
Been chomping at the bit for this since it happened!
Pretty much the first thing I thought of when I saw this in the news was 'welp there's the next QAA ep'
nice work doing something different than the same three clips of awful shit he said and a prior justification for the incoming twitter fight
Wouldn’t that be some shit, Charlie Kirk kicks off civil war 2 after we all watched Uvalde and sat around with our thumbs up our asses talking about how fucked up it was.
I need to know more about the satanic far right accelerationist cult that Liv mentioned.
order of the nine angles
I haven’t gotten to listen yet, but I’m hoping this episode brings up transmaxxing, incels, and nihilism
Kirk had reprehensible views. I’m against all the things he stood for. I have very little patience for grifters. But people glorifying his death or making memes about it need to seek professional help or go outside and touch grass. Total losers.
He spent his life dehumanizing others, calling for their rights to be stripped. An unrepentant racist and bigot who thought empathy was a weakness. No one who was a target of his bile and rhetoric cares.
Who would have thought Charlie Kirk death would be such a minefield.
I’m going to listen and hope these guys don’t lib out…
Lib out?
The guy plugging his channel literally seconds after seeing his friend get violently killed is so fucked... we are truly doomed as a society (if we weren't ever not)
Epic. I have been anticipating this episode since the moment I heard of the shooting.
I haven't listened yet. If Julien walks back or apologizes for any of his past comments im taking my 5 dollars a month away.
He did not thank fuck. I’d be with ya
Wow, what a shot! Hitting a turd at 200 yards with one shot! Not bad.
Charlie Kirk died? I didn’t even know he was sick
Holy shit!
Do we have say how sad we are before listening?
it's The Scold's Prayer
I hope you folks in the comments are all doing ok
what's that supposed to mean
Liv Agar
Oh mann here we gooooo. The first thing I thought of when I heard it happened. 👀
This pod was my first thought the second I got the news
I've been waiting for this.
i imagine julian’s commentary in this ep is just a long string of unrepeatable beeps
I just thought he'd laugh to the point of passing out
When coworkers bring this up, I try to ask about the school shooting that happened the same day. I just want to point outside their bubble, we can all get it. He’s not special
Charlie is looking up at us right now 🥰
Screaming. And I think he's in severe pain
FINALLY. THE ONLY COMMENTARY I NEED.
Ruh Roh
Can't believe this episode didn't drop like the day after this happened.
the conspiracy theory watchers have to wait for the conspiracy theorists to scratch their doodles in the wet cement before they can be chiselled out and preserved for us to gawk at
At last
First
we're neck and neck
