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September 2, 2025

The Great Gaylor Disappointment (Premium E303) 

Megastar Taylor Swift and three time Super Bowl champion Travis Kelce announced their engagement in one of the most-liked Instagram posts of all time. Naturally, we wondered how the Gaylor community is handling the news. Back in premium episode 235, Liv introduced us to the Taylor Swift fans who believe that the megastar is secretly queer and closeted, and that she has hinted at this through lyrics, visuals, timing, and public friendships.

On this episode Travis, Liv, Jake and Julian examine reactions from the Gaylor community, ranging from acceptance, denial, bewilderment, and rage.

Plus, Jake treats us to a story about secret occult practices and the magical year of 1989. 

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Comments (106)

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Cryptid · April 4, 2026

Couple name recommendation for the podcast lovers. Frock, last names,

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Junke Junke · November 30, 2025

As a lifelong Taylor hater, Julian made this episode bearable. Thank you, as always, for being you, Julian.

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JustToBeHappy · September 22, 2025

Damn! This episode made me laugh so hard. Some of these people are just lost to reality…

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Schwartz666 · September 17, 2025

D-R-I-N-K-O-V-A-L-T-I-N-E

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ts_babyjane · September 9, 2025

lol look even when i was a 16yo indie kid, and wanted sufjan stevens to come out, it still pissed me tf off that someone wouldnt come out to their fans while only dropping clues. lol like, yeah being lgbt isnt a big deal, so fucking come out. it doesnt have to be invasive. also, chappell roan is openly a lesbian, and pink pony club is now a forever mainstream song, taylor is not going to “lose money” in show business, and even if she does, why admire a girl billionaire who’d rather be closeted than maybe lose like 1 of those millions dollars being her authentic self. how tf is that ur hero. also the “13” baking she did is so fake smart person im sorry

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Lui · September 7, 2025

I heard recently Robert Mueller has severe dementia due to Parkinson’s.

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Bobby Volcano · September 7, 2025

Am I the only person getting tripped up every time they call Travis Kelce "Travis", thinking they're referring to Travis View, even when Travis View himself says "Travis"

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DemonLemurNick · September 7, 2025

That was amazing. As a Swifty who also loves black Metal and punk and folk. And pretty much whatever moves me. I absolutely loved this. It's wild shit. I feel bad for them the way I do QAnon peeps. No different. Great episode, guys. Hail yourselves.

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d'egg · September 6, 2025

"These are what we call 'annoying lesbians'"

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ALY · September 6, 2025

the ship names mentioned in previous episodes are julian and jake - juliake travis and julian - trulian my suggestions: jake and travis - javis liv and annie - linnie brad and an alien - bralien

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enyml · September 5, 2025

This is officially my favorite episode of QAA. So deliciously unhinged!

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damn stroker's jackula · September 5, 2025

Trakis Rockaviewsky

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Stella Dawn · September 5, 2025

Also love how Julian knows equal amounts about Taylor and Football.

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Stella Dawn · September 5, 2025

'You can be my jailer, Burton to this Taylor' is a reference to her ship name with her ex bf Joe. 'Jaylor'. Idk how that's supposed to be gaylor coded. But I guess since I know that much, I'm malfunctioning anyway.

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Some Nerd · September 4, 2025

Jay As Hell

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BoganTheLastard · September 4, 2025

Julitansky

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DD · September 4, 2025

Thank you for some of the most genuinely blood-curdling psychological horror I've ever experienced. I got 15 minutes in and had to quit because I was experiencing pure terror. 10/10

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Matthew Norton · September 4, 2025

Any plans on restocking the merch store?

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Aric Stowers · September 4, 2025

I think this triggered a memory in me. Jake, were you referencing Salute Your Shorts when you said "get it right or pay the price?"

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jengatoads · September 4, 2025

it is only after rivers of trulian and jakelian shippers’ blood have been spilled in a long and terrible conflict will a polyship messiah descend from the heavens and unite the land in peace and prosperity

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lyn · September 4, 2025

liv agar

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jengatoads · September 4, 2025

“I spend every living moment with you whether you’re around me or not” is actually a leaked lyric from Taylor’s new album

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union goon · September 3, 2025

Chipolte#+

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I am · September 3, 2025

Ja-Ju

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flubberpuff · September 3, 2025

i have never been more excited for an episode in my life

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Planthaver · September 3, 2025

Jakelian Viewsitanski shipping would just be a rehash of early 2000s Spongebob x Squidward yaoi

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HonestEd · September 3, 2025

The Jake Julian name is obviously Julian cockatansky

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Matt Stockman · September 3, 2025

Thank you for making my day better. Ass fully laughed off

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Chapo Bath House · September 3, 2025

It is incredibly funny to be upset Taylor is marrying the big, dumb, pretty nice football guy, because you believe the love of her life is married to a Kushner.

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Bacchmeister · September 3, 2025

I understand being a shipper but I never understood projecting that onto real people with actual autonomy & internal lives (Guess I'm just a weirdo who knows how icky it feels having people actively ignore my sexuality to project one they prefer.) Let alone being that invested in shipping one of the most mediocre white women in the music industry.

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Xpensive Cardboard · September 3, 2025

Unrelated to this episode but the series It Could Happen Here just did a couple episodes on blueanon. Specifically they talked with Jack from AltWatcher and I think it was a good companion to the QAA teams Blueanon piece.

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Melissa Humbert · September 3, 2025

Julian: How many albums does Taylor have? Travis: 12. Spoken like a man who's had to buy every single one for his daughter and listen to her and her friends singing along with them in the car.

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Megan · September 3, 2025

Embarrassed for all of you not knowing Burton and Taylor tbh

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Taylorfrom5to7 · September 3, 2025

I am a proud swiftie and once during the most depressed I’ve ever been I briefly got into the idea that she was bi. At my next appointment with my psychiatrist they adjusted my meds and almost immediately I realized how stupid that theory was lmao. To paraphrase one of my favorite load bearing tweets but Gaylors have a very “noble savage” view of straight people and it’s made them insane about Taylor.

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Jess C · September 3, 2025

I ship Gayke Jockatansky 💝🎀✨️🧚🏼‍♀️🙏

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Ren · September 3, 2025

For those of you who might have missed it,recent headline from The Onion , " Taylor Swift Hints New Album Could Be About Her" ❗

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Beale Zebub · September 3, 2025

Is there a QAA subreddit? I thought I heard Jake mention it.

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Kate Jay · September 3, 2025

... Erotomania by proxy? What the fuck. I can't imagine giving this many shits about any celebrity's sexuality.. come to think of it I don't even care about my own sexuality that much

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moloko4 · September 3, 2025

I love story time with Jake. Makes my day. lmao

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Platynota idaeusalis · September 3, 2025

The idea of Bisexuality/Pansexuality is kicking the Gaylor community's 🫏es (although I believe that Taylor is *very* straight). That it's gay or bust for them is fascinating. And sad.

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Ren · September 3, 2025

Liv Agar and a Jake story. Superb! ❤️ And thanks also for pronouncing Jimmy Savile 's name properly this time . Finally some respect for one of our most profilic ( is that a word? It is now !) and prolific sex offenders. I'm upping my tier! 🙌

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Kling Klang · September 3, 2025

"Two canaries stuck in a cat box trying to call each other Catherine as the saying goes" deserves a Pulitzer. We don't deserve Jake.

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Rachel · September 3, 2025

Gaylor pt 2 before Eurovision?😭

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'Mech Bae · September 3, 2025

I ship Jake and Julian but their relationship is Julian is inside Jake's bean bag chair and every time Jake sits down in it to play 2K, there's a little bit of a snuggle. At least as long as Julian is alive in there 💛

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Kate Jay · September 3, 2025

Wait... how did you receive Julian's coded messages about his and Jake's bean bag snuggle sessions?? Julian sent those to me personally and i will remind you it is a federal offense to read other people's psychic communications

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Harrison Sanchez · September 3, 2025

I hate HATE hate. HATE Taylor Swift. I wish I were deaf every time her music comes on and looking at her makes me want to dump acid into my eyes. The REAL mystery is my theory that she was BEARD to Tom Hiddleston. FIght me dorks.

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Rachel · September 3, 2025

My brother in Christ, this is a cry for help

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Leena · September 3, 2025

Cake Rockatansky

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Adam 2 · September 3, 2025

Julian is like a meme character in an old sitcom. He’s good and quite funny in small doses but too much and he gets annoying fast. Jake and Travis episodes are much more chill (and American).

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TB · September 3, 2025

If Julian laughed his laugh at one of my jokes I think I’d feel fulfilled forever

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Adam 2 · September 3, 2025

Taylor’s getting her back blown out by Chad Thundercock and we can’t cope: the episode.

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Kate Jay · September 3, 2025

Chad Thundercock

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Chapo Bath House · September 3, 2025

As an evil bi woman, I can confirm there is a second emergency group chat that is created when your friend is engaged to someone awful

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Seth · September 3, 2025

The “reading Kelce tweets” section would have benefitted greatly from reading his many tweets about the MGMT song Electric Feel

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Acacia Pottschmidt · September 5, 2025

Excuse me. What.

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Eden · September 3, 2025

Pissed myself laughing with 'we need to get these women flat bed Toyota trucks & AK 47's'

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Juan · September 3, 2025

I almost choke the death with some peanuts because of that

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alli moulton · September 3, 2025

Jaklian

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Robert P · September 2, 2025

On one hand I can't stand Taylor Swift on a existential level on the other hand I'm a sucker for looking at people's self induced brain rot. Great episode

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wollymight · September 2, 2025

JAKE OCCULT STUFF

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Rachel L. · September 2, 2025

i would like to never think about the qaa yaoi mines

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Chapo Bath House · September 2, 2025

I just want to know what they're doing down there

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Erika L · September 2, 2025

Is Travis a swifty

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Juan · September 3, 2025

He has a teenage daughter, so I'm guessing it has been forced on him

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drawingcolors · September 2, 2025

the world needs more trulian shippers

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Jose Chung · September 2, 2025

Do you have to go to the new website to hear Science in Transition?

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Radiant Rachel · September 3, 2025

Yes.

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Abby · September 2, 2025

great episode for rockafeeld truthers

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Radiant Rachel · September 3, 2025

Yessss

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LeafVsSnail · September 2, 2025

Caroline Rose and Chappell Roan are out there and have great music. I’m sure there are many more. The Taylor obsession is confusing to me.

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Jacob King · September 3, 2025

My impression was that the Gaylor fandom is not particularly queer (or offline). Engaging with real lesbians making queer art with politics and community means you as a fan are involved in changing the culture. There is work to be done. If Taylor is the lesbian messiah, and her coming out will usher in a golden age of tolerance, lattes and kitten memes, then not only is there no work required on your part these lesser pop stars are a distraction. Especially if they draw your attention to the real world and real problems.

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alli moulton · September 2, 2025

OMG a Jake story!!!!

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Brendan Luster · September 2, 2025

how many pop stars can a pop star pop if a pop star could pop stars?

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HoneyBunHideout · September 2, 2025

"Let the yowie begin!" Um I think you might be mispronouncing yaoi (do not judge me for this knowledge) also your ship name is clearly Jalian

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Seb · September 2, 2025

If you're not pronouncing it the way Julian is you're the one mispronouncing it sorry to tell you

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Cale · September 2, 2025

“Get it right or pay the price” Salute Your Shorts reference?

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QAA · September 3, 2025

yes -jake

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iva antonie · September 2, 2025

i love it when Travis calls Jake "Jakey", esp. in context of "Jakey has a book report/story for us", like such proud dad vibes ❤️❤️❤️❤️

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Wendi Byther · September 2, 2025

Oh thank god for a Jake tale 🥲😆

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Rai · September 2, 2025

leave me and my family alone. (but seriously it's been really shitty to see left wing creators jump on what has turned into a massive harassment and bullying campaign)

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gioi · September 2, 2025

oh no the podcast that covers conspiracies covered a group of conspirationists being disappointed. must be bullying

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gioi · September 2, 2025

FUCK YES! this has been my gc’s favourite topic of conversation this past week. they’re my fav crazy subcommunity

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Rai · September 2, 2025

"crazy sub community" and craziness is thinking people can be queer

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Joseph · September 2, 2025

As much as we all like it I think we can finally agree that the HBO series Harley Quinn has given us unrealistic expectations for what your “bestie/ gal-pal” will do when she hears you are gonna marry a guy

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vincent paixao · September 2, 2025

There is no reality where this marriage isn’t anything but a huge marketing gimmick. This is all a lead up to Taylor Swifts eventual divorce album.

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ploob · September 2, 2025

Double tap THIS wedding

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Andrew · September 2, 2025

IMO the engagement is a PR stunt just not for the reason the Gaylors seem to think

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CRISP.SCRUFFLETRUFFLE · September 2, 2025

‘I’ll spend every living moment with you, whether you are around me or not.’❤️

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Jackson · September 2, 2025

I think it’s interesting the conspiracy is basically evolving along the same course as Johnlock, where they’re convinced there’s an eleventh hour reveal coming even in face of the end of any path towards it. They literally are theorizing the wedding will bring an ultimate reveal that will change the world the way the Johnlock people were betting on the finale

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Radiant Rachel · September 3, 2025

Truly. At least us Destiel shippers got half a love confession in s15e18. And way more evidence leading up, than there ever was with Johnlock

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bigphoton · September 2, 2025

Taylor is a faithful lesbian. Travis is really a woman pretending to be a guy. It's not rocket science.

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Samuel Pullen · September 2, 2025

Also Sabrina and Taylor are the straightest women alive

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Joelio · September 2, 2025

Cracks me up thinking about Travis doing this research

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Jonno · September 2, 2025

He has a Gen Z daughter -- I think we all know he's a Secret Swifty

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Samuel Pullen · September 2, 2025

I found it funny that over the past year or so they kept saying Taylor is secretly gay but hiding to keep her popularity, but loads of them think Chappell is faking it for clout

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Kate · September 2, 2025

The true constant is conspiracist logic

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Corey · September 2, 2025

The most Liv of Agars.

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Smooth Shrek · September 2, 2025

Oh fuck yeah shoot the Gaylor tears into my veins

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Chris LaGreca · September 2, 2025

When they say “speak now or forever hold your peace” Karli Kloss is gonna show up on a motorcycle and Taylor will run off with her

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Sarah · September 2, 2025

Notice how Trump hasn’t spoken since the engagement announcement…Gaylor confirmed?

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gioi · September 2, 2025

taylor swift killed trump with a satanist ritual confirmed

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AK · September 2, 2025

*insert Sickos guy here*

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Queen Motoko · September 2, 2025

The Great Liv Agar

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Sarah · September 2, 2025

Yessss

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Eliana Henriksen-Payne · September 2, 2025

I love you all so much. Thank you for helping me keep my sanity over the years.

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Smooth Shrek · September 2, 2025

Sorry Eliana this is a note pad app. The pills haven’t worn off yet