The Painting Passion of Jon McNaughton feat Joshua Citarella (Premium E285)
An exploration of the most famous right wing crank painter in the game: artist Jon McNaughton. From tea-party-era images of Obama burning the constitution to MAGA-era images of Trump as Atlas, the progression of his career has mirrored a deeper shift in the Republican base and its obsessions. Our guest is artist, writer, and host of the Doomscroll podcast Joshua Citarella.
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Comments (76)
"dead people don't need wheelchairs" ughhhhhhh ever hear of WEEKEND AT BERNIES
Liv Agar
Why are Christians so fucking weird?
As ever we badly need a government program for failed creatives where a paid audience tells them their shit is good, actually to prevent them becoming insane fascists out of sheer bitterness.
I always pictured McNaughton as an old kook who lived on a farm somewhere happily doing his pictures of Presinald Trunt on his lonesome, probably into ufos and obsessively collects jars, you know the type. Devastating to learn he's a smug former finance ghoul who's just as obsessively online as the rest of them.
He really should be a David Deas type.
I know some secular Jewish brothers who grew up in Utah and thought gentile only meant non-Mormon until college
This guy’s voice is soooo Mormon.
whew! a fire and balanced nother one
I have honestly been waiting for an episode about this lunatic for so long.
Love how Julian's very first idea for the painting of the jail cell zoom windows is already conceptually light years beyond Jon's powers of imagination
But wasn’t the movie called it’s a mad mad mad mad world with 4 mads? McNaughton don’t make mistakes
Trump sitting on the bowl and going for broke
His paintings are giving Game Master Anthony
These British Israelites sounds like the basic mythology of McNaughton’s preferred superstition… I mean, religion. McNaughton can be summed up with one word: Mormon
Where’s the dam link to the go fund me for donations for commissioning “QAA Haters at LockHerUp Table” !?!? And maybe a certain donation level gets a NFT puzzle piece of the painting…. Just asking the question 👐🏻
PS some of the people in DOGE are in the O9A
Is Jon McNaughton the analog Beeple, or is Beeple the digital Jon McNaughton?
The Empire Never Ended pod did an episode (#50) on British Israelites, they are real freaks
I have been a subscriber since the inception of the Patreon. So help me, if you guys don’t post email traffic of at least attempting to get a McNaughton “portrait of the haters” painting done, I will cancel. Hell, get Chapo in on this too. If he quotes something obnoxious there will be a gofundme made to make it happen.
I would love a full episode on Christian Identity/British Israelism. The book "Race Over Grace" is a pretty good primer on these beliefs in America.
I was thinking about what cool conservative art would look like halfway through the episode. I had a couple of ideas that would be kind of metal but I cringed at the thought of making it even if it was satire so it was relieving when you guys had a couple kind of metal but questionable “cool Jon Mcnaughton painting” ideas. Love what y’all do, critical support 🫶
this is the Best art criticism ive come across in a long time, maybe only second to chapter 55 of moby dick
As an ex-Mormon, it’s no surprise to me that dude is dabbling in weird beliefs around ancient Israelites
They are “tight as a dish,” yes?
Unhinged Trump Art has been a fascination of mine and I actually have a Facebook group dedicated to it. I have been awaiting this episode for years.
Common misconception that always peeves me: caffeine is not banned for Mormons. Coffee is banned because it is a "hot" drink (alongside tea), because Joe Smith thought hot drinks were bad for you. Also, Mormons have never been historically anti-Semitic. In fact Utah had a Jewish governor in the 1920s.
They did have some pretty strong views about black people though
Y’all have to do David Barton sometime soon if you think McNaughton is a nut.
As an artist that has met with zero success... this episode is causing me great psychic damage.
fellow struggling artist, got a touch of thaat as well.. but not really in the ebd bc as nice as that money would be, that was never mi goal w/ art. I just do it because I'm compelled to analyze, experiment, express stuff beyond words. and music and visual art both satisfy this craving in a way nothing else seem to for me
Kincade walked to McNaughton could run. I promise not all of us in Utah are dumb enough to fall for it. Exhibit A: Utah Artist Ben Steele https://borrowandsteele.com/products/doubting-thomas-print
He is like a more hacky Kinkade imo. They both are so prolific so their work has heavily influenced AI slop
Goddamn American Mormons at it AGAIN!
“AI, make me a Ben Garrison cartoon in the style of Thomas Kincaid”-ass paintings
"Ejaculate hair"
I was actually in the audience that episode of the Colbert report when he went over that painting. Visceral memory lol
Pretty sure Katie Couric has never worked for fox. She’s a pretty standard “evil liberal” for 2ks conservativism. Because she’s an incredibly famous network tv anchor and a woman.
Can you guys do an episode on the Anonymous videos about the election results? I feel like it's right up your alley
I only knew this guy from this Cthulhu-jesus edit https://files.catbox.moe/omcw35.jpg
Fuck!
Try making a bunny wearing a cast emoji. Takes for fucking ever.
This Joshua fella sounds a lot like our Brad Abrahams.
The drop in McNaughton's technical detail can really be seen starting with the football painting. Trump's legs are weirdly proportioned, which is something I don't see in earlier works. I think he got lazy.
😂 my friend signed me to Jon's mailing list back in 2022 just for a laugh, I have so many emails 😂
Especially loved this episode ! Great job !
the "art market drying up after 9/11" has to just actually be the burst of the dot-com bubble finally affecting him, right?
That line killed me. If you're looking only at the high-end (auction prices and what not) the art market soared after 9/11. It was Lehman Bros. that did a dent.
Ooo cool, I found you guys through Brad Troemel years ago, who I think talks to Joshua, who I found through JREG. Recently found Western Kabuki through Internet Today, and then QAA was also there. You guys should all jerk eachother off
Maybe he's just painting so accurately to his models that sometimes he accidentally paints the floor of his studio. Like "Damnit my assistant didn't sweep the floor and the paperscraps got in there again!"
I don’t know anything about the art program at BYU but it sounds like myth making to suggest it was a hotbed of conceptual or postmodern art in the mid eighties. This is the abstinence only, no drinking, no drugs, no short skirts university.
Imagine how fucking frustrated you’d be. When you can’t fuck, drunk or get high and you’re bubbling with art pretensions, man you’d cook some shit.
If Hitler had been allowed to go to art school, we’d end up with John McNaughton. Someone needs to make that AI video story.
...and Travis View 😎👍
I love piss christ andre serranto is one of the twenty century's best photographers
"dead people don't need wheelchairs" is insane lol
They don't need clothes either.
Liv Laugh Love
Liv laugh piss
Someone needs to get close to Macnaughton and convert him to Black Hammer.
Travis View
Spending months creating a beautiful painting to trigger the libs is wild. I think his paintings are objectively good if a little boring stylistically speaking, but I think American politics should only be photographed as it’s otherwise inartful and his attention could be better directed elsewhere. Granted elsewhere isn’t as lucrative
Dead people don't need wheelchairs will be my first tattoo
Great fantasy sports team name too.
Despite Julian and Joshua's background, I think Jake had the most incisive takedowns here. It's nice to have an episode this funny again.
I demand that every joke from now on be followed by: *pause* John McNaughton.
Will there be a Jake’s Takes on Doomscroll?
"You've mentioned before that Ghostbusters is your favourite film. Do you remember how you felt the first time you watched it?"
Someone needs to cut off this guys hands
Wow this dimwit having a successful art career pandering to room temp IQ dolts has actually triggered me. Well done Jon.
i wonder what this genius thinks about the constitution now that Trump's abolishing it?
Liv Artgar
Liv Agar
I was listening to Knowledge Fight on Spotify when my phone alerted me that this episode had dropped. I legitimately said "John McNaughton? Oh fuck yeah! Get me in there" out loud at my job and quit listening to KF. Fuck, I'm stoked for this one. That man is unhinged in a classical way, like Ben Garrison.
OMG I hope they do Ben Garrison next. I am so obsessed with hate reading those crappy cartoons that I need to find a way to unconnect from the internet.
Mr feeld I presume
