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Graham Hancock’s Ancient Apocalypse (E318) (1 of 2)
April 5, 2025

Graham Hancock’s Ancient Apocalypse (E318)

Graham Hancock is a British journalist and author who gained worldwide fame for his pseudo-archaeological theories. Hancock proposes that an advanced, globally connected civilization existed more than 12,000 years ago and that remnants of their knowledge survived a catastrophic event, informing later cultures around the world. 

His Netflix series, Ancient Apocalypse, amplifies Hancock’s claims, suggesting that mainstream archaeology has deliberately ignored or suppressed evidence supporting his controversial hypotheses.

As Annie Kelly and Fall of Civilizations podcaster Paul Cooper explain to Travis and Brad on this episode, all of this is a hot load of ahistorical rubbish.

But why does this story have enough appeal for two seasons of a Netflix show in the first place? And why is Keanu Reeves involved with it?

Annie and Paul take a deep dive into Graham Hancock’s work, picking apart the fallacies that sustain it and the questionable characters that promote it.

Thanks for subscribing to QAA on patreon.

Paul Cooper

https://www.paulmmcooper.com/

Editing by Corey Klotz. Theme by Nick Sena. Additional music by Pontus Berghe. Theme Vocals by THEY/LIVE (https://instagram.com/theyylivve / https://sptfy.com/QrDm). Cover Art by Pedro Correa: (https://pedrocorrea.com)

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wc · April 14, 2025

Annie is married to the Fall of Civilizations guy?! There must be some conspiracy here... I had no idea... gonna bake on this.

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Adam Vandelay · April 11, 2025

I saw Hancock at a book launch several years ago. A friend—who I’ve since realized is incredibly pilled—invited me out for the event and some drinks afterward. The bookshop was packed, and this eloquent professor got up and started talking about serpent mounds and similar topics. It was all very interesting, and I had no idea so many people were into ancient archaeology. Then the Q&A started, and things took a strange turn. Someone asked if Hancock thought the pyramids were built using telepathy. He was surprisingly open to the idea. He also talked about his daily use of psychoactive substances over the past thirty years, which he credited for helping him develop his insights. From the sheer amount of weed and hallucinogens he claimed to be consuming, I was amazed he could write a book at all. He started to remind me of a guy I knew at university who smoked way too much weed and was always trying to convince me the moon landings were faked. Hancock had this almost fanatical presentation style, insisting he was being silenced by “big archaeology.” It had the same intense, conspiratorial vibe as that stoned student from uni. My friend told me Hancock might come across as a little crazy at times but insisted he’d “been proved right every single time.” I just shrugged and assumed he was one of those eccentric academics, which isn’t exactly rare in higher education. I forgot about him for a while—until Ancient Apocalypse came out. That’s when I looked him up again and realized his theories are, for the most part, complete bollocks.

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Jeremy Olivier · April 10, 2025

My senior year of high school debate the topic was ocean policy and we ran a case about establishing marine protected areas. I wrote a hidden advantage about sunken archeological sites out of Hancock's book Underworld. Good times.

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David · April 10, 2025

when Annie had introduced Paul awhile ago I went and listened to his podcast. I was immediately hooked. I constantly look for his next drop.

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Kevin Lynch · April 15, 2025

You've listened to all 55 odd hours?

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Jan · April 9, 2025

If Graham had not been fucking coward he would told a tale of Finno-Korean Hyperwar

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Ian · April 9, 2025

Cataclysms - caused by cats? The truth may surprise you.

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Laura Walsh · April 8, 2025

So, an energy vampire like Colin Robinson??

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TravisPewPewPew · April 7, 2025

When I was in HS there was an upperclassman that was completely pilled by “The Sign and the Seal” Dude even wrote an argument for the conspiracy in the school newspaper. Cannot believe people still listen to this guy.

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Melissa Humbert · April 7, 2025

Flint Dibble is a Flintstones name.

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Addie Kelly · April 7, 2025

Fall of Civilisations is one of the best podcasts you can ever hope to find... so cool that he's Annie's husband

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Matt Dear · April 7, 2025

Stefan Milo, Miniminuteman, and World Of Antiquity's yt series' on Ancient Apocalypse and Hancock in general are all great additional content on this crackpot. Also, the Flint Dibble debates and Flint's own retrospective videos are great too. If you can, go support him, he's weathered a lot of Hancock stans bullshit, all while dealing with a life-threatening cancer diagnosis, on top of representing his field with 0 compensation.

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KEGGY · April 7, 2025

Came here to mention all of those dudes before the intro song even finished. Seriously top tier content from all of em.

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bobore · April 7, 2025

In defense of Reeves, that sounded cut to hell.

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Mac-something · April 6, 2025

Thanks to Annie I tell everyone that the British Royal Family are a kind of national house pet.

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Jay Miller · April 6, 2025

Annie Kelly!

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Leanders · April 6, 2025

My mother messaged the family group just this week saying we should all watch this show and praising brave rebellious Graham Hancock. QAA is always so prescient

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Percy Plump · April 6, 2025

Love Annie, love Paul. Only 2 good living British Catholics. Thomas More is smiling from heaven that there are still good Catholics in the UK

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Mac-something · April 6, 2025

Amen brother!

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Robin Cantin · April 6, 2025

Unexpected for this pod, but great! Two points on this: Hancock has been bemoaning the way the wikipedia article about him is written - his fans have been descending on the page for months, trying to whitewash it and battling the editors on the Talk page. Also, interesting to hear the white supremacist youtubers talk about him as not one of them, but a kind of useful idiot.

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Booshnaw · April 6, 2025

Fall of Civilizations is excellent! Amazing crossover, wild to hear him narrating Graham.

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Ivy Herr · April 6, 2025

when he was talking about how there’s no “archeology of ideas” i was just thinking….you mean anthropology???? lol

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turkeysWant2live · April 6, 2025

What? This thing got a second series while the Benandanti show which actually had a great story got pulled after 6 episodes?

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Kimbo · April 6, 2025

Apparently Hancock's son is/was the senior manager of unscripted originals at Netflix. Do with that what you will 👀 Edit: just finished the episode and realized they already mention this on the pod!

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hugo de bugré · April 6, 2025

Love Paul love Graham obvie love Annie and Travis and Brad and I just wanna ask why can’t we all just love one another

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Mikey B · April 6, 2025

This episode was such a breath of fresh air. Thanks you lot!

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Calithulu · April 6, 2025

So strangely coincidental that you and the Know Rogan Experience podcast did the same topic this week. If I were conspiracy minded I'd assume the globalists were coordinating comms... but I'm not nuts so thank you for the additional point of view.

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K · April 6, 2025

Paul was really funny, hopefully he comes back at some point

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Daniel Reed Miller · April 6, 2025

For anyone who’s interested, Decoding The Gurus has done a couple great interviews with Flint Dibble about his efforts to debate Hancock (and the fallout from clearly winning, in the form of attacks by Hancock’s followers, Hancock himself, and the supposedly open minded Rogan.) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/decoding-the-gurus/id1531266667?i=1000654364323

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HonestEd · April 6, 2025

Woooh mind in the cave

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E · April 6, 2025

“There are no volcanoes here” sorry are we talking about the Incas? In western South America? The continental volcanic arc? Right at the textbook subduction zone?

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Mac-something · April 6, 2025

Plate tectonics is a lie to help the sheeple sleep at night!

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nance · April 6, 2025

i’m latin american, so as much as i enjoyed ancient aliens, it was always jarring to find myself confronted with rhetoric that stemmed from the No Way POC Did This on Their Own school of academia. some white people are just astounding in their arrogance.

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nance · April 6, 2025

also i’m going to listen to fall of civilizations immediately.

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Shiv · April 5, 2025

Big recommend for Chaco Canyon which does feel very mystical in a ancient human way, not a Hancock way

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monkey · April 5, 2025

And Travis View

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OJ McDoogle · April 5, 2025

I know it was necessary to the piece, but I never need to hear Joe Rogan's voice if I can avoid it. I can't imagine having to power through multiple episodes of his show. My condolences to Annie.

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Donald W Pratt · April 5, 2025

I’ve often wondered if David Gemmell took significant inspiration from Fingerprints of the Gods for his book Echoes of the Great song. Seems likely, since it came out two years later. If he did, it came out much better as fiction than silly pseudo history.

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Mac-something · April 6, 2025

All writers are thieves as they say.

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dub-sar Nisaba · April 5, 2025

Paul, as a fellow historian/archaeologist, your exhausted tone when talking about HOW WRONG Graham is really resonated with me 🤣😆

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Joseph V. · April 5, 2025

Graham Handcock would REALLY like One Piece.

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I am · April 5, 2025

Shocked nobody mentioned our boy at Mud Fossil University

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Javier · April 5, 2025

Two of my favorite podcast hosts are married? And they're both British? Coincidence? I just don't buy it.

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Kevin Lynch · April 15, 2025

Obviously a Jewish conspiracy /s

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Madeline Hunter · April 5, 2025

Hi, Mister Annie!

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Bill Engvall Wilder · April 5, 2025

At least the Ancient Aliens narrator was entertaining. Graham monetized his hobbies (creative writing, diving) at the expense of world IQ

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Mac-something · April 6, 2025

It’s not like he even needed to do it, he had a real journalist career before he turned to the woo woo.

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BBQPanda · April 5, 2025

Me: “I wonder if Graham describes what those advanced ancient people looked li- oh yep there it is….”

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Daniel Kuhn · April 5, 2025

Continuing to create vitrification on walls is not all that hard. Those temperatures are not a big deal depending on the geology of the landmass the Japanese and the Chinese were reaching temperatures above 2400°F pretty early on anyways all voice to text so ignore my spellings.

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Daniel Kuhn · April 5, 2025

Love this episode Annie and Paul. Well done. I actually have education in a few of the things touched on in this episode. Eleanor Manica was a professor of mine who was a graduate students in the 70s and discovered that anchor Watt was a celestial architectural piece and spent a lot of time telling the discovery channel That she did not want to be on TV. She was also a Buddhist and had some fascinating insights on Choco Canyon also I’m a ceramic artist so reaching those temperatures inside a tunnel to create.

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Nolan Lipply · April 5, 2025

Paul Cooper

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TroyMcMillan1988 · April 5, 2025

This is essentially the premise of the Assassin’s Creed games lol

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Brent · April 5, 2025

Just daydreaming about becoming best couple friends with Annie and Paul

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hamburglar · April 5, 2025

Paul Cooper being Annie’s husband is breaking my brain. Fall of civilizations is top tier. Truly next level stuff

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Alexander Smith · April 5, 2025

Mom’s side of the family is Mohawk, thank you for this episode! Hancock is the enemy! Check out Indigenous Palaeolithic in the Western Hemisphere if you want to hear about the main stream archaeological conspiracy that is the “Clovis People”

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Mac-something · April 6, 2025

My understanding is that ‘Clovis First’ has been abandoned by the mainstream opinion?

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Jess C · April 5, 2025

ANNIE KELLY!! I love how QAAs regulars are all so good, I am a simple person...I see Brad, Annie, Travis feat. Paul? I click 🥳

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Christian · April 5, 2025

Brad is such a great addition, I’m so glad he’s around more.

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Moira · April 5, 2025

Totally!

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Noah · April 5, 2025

Travis View

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Last Years Man · April 5, 2025

Annie Kelly

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Storky · April 5, 2025

Where are Annie Kelly’s sweet little dumplings at?! 🗣️📢 make some noiiiiise

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Mac-something · April 6, 2025

As someone born in the year of the pig that makes me a pork dumpling.

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Ruth Kiszka · April 5, 2025

You know your argument is weak when you start mumbling about the Sunda Trench.

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The half Travis half q voice got me fucked up on these lozenges

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I also unfortunately used to be in a Santo daime cult in Costa Rica & most believed all of his beliefs and beyond - Hancock is basically a nazi lol as are the nor cal wooks gentrifying the already heavily colonized land of turtle island via gringo shamanism Love yall - acabantifa lol

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brian burke · April 5, 2025

i usually really like your shows, but i must say that although i think graham hancock has many flaws. i found this episode to be pretty insulting to other religions such as hindus, native primals, and us wiccans and pagans, and others. the same arguments about ancient myths or facts made in this is episode could also be used against christian beliefs.. such as "psychic powers" shows up in the the bible as well. its a major part of it. it mentions angels and jesus and others able to have superpowers and able to travel massive distances around the world but you seem to be saying the idea that osiris, isis, kali, vishnu, zeus, poseidon, athena, etc etc doing the exact same thing is a myth and silly. it would be a good nice contrast to graham hancock's many mistakes with other religious leaders and historians of ancient religions and believers in world wide civilizations. such as ram dass, alan moore, miriam simos, z budapest, daryl cherney, alice walker, and more. and i would add we are constantly having to rewrite our history. and reconsider ancient myths, the ruins of troy, gobelki tepe, and others were only found recently. the Antikythera mechanism was only found in 1901. and looks pretty modern, but yet it is over 2,000 years old. when my grandparents were in school the true story of vikings coming to north america before columbus was still considered a conspiracy theory, by the time i went to school in the same state of illinois, it was taught as true history. graham hancock has made many mistakes but please try to have a less hostile view of theories like this, go ahead and insult graham hancock but at least have others on. or at least read their work on the air as well.

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Rachel · April 5, 2025

lol what

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Makai Péter Kristóf · April 5, 2025

This would have also been an amazing Milo Rossi collaboration. Shoutout to all googledebunkers!

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Laura · April 5, 2025

Also the podcast It's Probably (Not) Aliens. How move big rock?

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Zoran Basic · April 5, 2025

Since we learned from the last episode that Keanu is immortal, Graham probably hoped he would confirm his theory

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No Relation to Henry · April 7, 2025

Keanu is himself the last survivor of that ur-civilization Graham keeps yapping about

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Shiv · April 5, 2025

Annie Kelly

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Piers Locke · April 5, 2025

Great episode! Super nostalgic for me as I first encountered Hancock’s pseudo-archaeology when I was reading The Fortean Times in the 1990s (when we read printed magazines!). Glad you indicate the genealogy of Hancock’s schtick to remind us that he’s merely reinventing the wheel (a square one), and that it’s conducive to white supremacist bullshit theory.

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Jacob King · April 5, 2025

Keanu, noooo!

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Niall Bryden · April 5, 2025

If you haven't you should all check out the pilot of X files spin off the lone gunmen. It predicted everything

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The Belfast that Time Forgot · April 5, 2025

Paul Cooper and the National Baby and Graham Hancock! Twenty Twenty Five isn't such a bad year after all!

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Zoran Basic · April 5, 2025

I'm gonna be Jake and tell you that film Alien vs Predator references Graham's theory regarding Antarctica

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Shiv · April 5, 2025

🫡

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Rebekah · April 5, 2025

Our Fake History have some great episodes on Hancock for those who are interested

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Will Dearborn · April 5, 2025

need way more annie and paul

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Justine Riekena · April 5, 2025

Annie Kelly 💗

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Andy Kraushaar · April 5, 2025

Are we sure that Graham Hancock isn't just a Matthew Holness character? That Netflix show VO at the beginning of the episode made me think of Darkplace.

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Seth Hoover · April 5, 2025

Soooooo….. does Annie want a pair of CuhShoeLuhs?

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Moira · April 5, 2025

I have waited 10,000 years for this episode!

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Moira · April 5, 2025

Truly a great episode! Thanks all.

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Ben H · April 5, 2025

Holy shit I love Paul Cooper (and Annie Kelly)

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augustburnsbread · April 5, 2025

Oh my god. I had a professor that required a Graham Hancock book for our Ethics 101 course. He was the strangest man I ever met and his antics are still some of my favorite stories to tell at parties. He was fired during our final exam.

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Ella Dawson · April 5, 2025

DURING the exam?

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Evan Pitkin · April 5, 2025

Is Julian ok?

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Shiv · April 5, 2025

He was on TrashFuture this week!

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Jason Entine · April 5, 2025

Paul Cooper!!!! I'm hooked on FoC

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megan · April 5, 2025

Oh man, I have been waiting for you guys to do an episode on Hancock for as long as I’ve been listening! I remember I had roommates who were obsessed with him along with that YouTube channel spirit science.

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Ben H · April 5, 2025

Damn, a spirit science reference in the wild. To be fair, I was that roommate but I was doing it "ironically"

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Ella Dawson · April 5, 2025

oh man, Graham Hancock was the bane of my existence when I was a social media manager at TED Talks. He gave a talk at a TEDx franchise event about ayahuasca that didn't meet the science standards of the central org (no shit) and I had to moderate Facebook comments for five years from people convinced it had been censored as part of a huge conspiracy

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'Mech Bae · April 5, 2025

This is timely, last week a work colleague was so excited to share with me the discovery of the vast columns underneath the pyramids