These People Are Stupid Liars Who Think You’re Stupid Too (E317)
It is difficult to comprehend how much these people screw up, lie, lie about their screw ups, and screw up lying. But we’re going to try anyway. Travis, Jake, and Liv break down the most recent round of malice and incompetence from the Trump administration and the deceit, deflections, and conspiracy theories being deployed in defense of this bad behavior.
Firstly we cover “Signalgate,” the controversy in which a National Security Advisor accidentally added a journalist to their Signal chat about military operations. Secondly we discuss the ongoing saga of Elon Musk’s DOGE and how their efforts are clearly making the government less efficient. And thirdly we cover the Trump administration’s brutal deportation policy, which has targeted people for arbitrary reasons and for their expression of rather benign opinions. We then debunk the conspiracy theory that there is evidence of American student groups collaborating with Hamas.
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Editing by Corey Klotz. Theme by Nick Sena. Additional music by Pontus Berghe, Nick Sena, Jake Rockatansky. Theme Vocals by THEY/LIVE (https://instagram.com/theyylivve / https://sptfy.com/QrDm). Cover Art by Pedro Correa: (https://pedrocorrea.com)
QAA was known as the QAnon Anonymous podcast.
SOURCES
The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Me Its War Plans
Here Are the Attack Plans That Trump’s Advisers Shared on Signal
https://archive.ph/ZKjdg#selection-609.0-614.0
'Most scared I've been': US strikes sow panic in rebel-held Yemen
Tech issues hit DOGE's '5 things' email requirement for federal employees
https://abcnews.go.com/US/tech-issues-hit-doges-5-things-email-requirement/story?id=120189752
Court records show how many federal workers were fired and rehired at 18 agencies
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/federal-probationary-workers-mass-firing-rehired/
The Federal Workers Who Are Not Quite Fired, Not Quite Working
https://archive.vn/8eGYG#selection-2081.0-2089.0
“You’re Here Because of Your Tattoos”
Oct. 7 victims sue Columbia student groups and protest leaders, alleging Hamas support
https://forward.com/fast-forward/707269/columbia-sjp-cuad-mahmoud-khalil-lawsuit/
Comments (76)
Tulsi Gabbard styles herself after MCU's Valentina Allegra de Fontaine; you can't convince me otherwise.
god bless america. As in Bobcat Goldwaithe's film. We are so fucked.
L I V A G A R
Jake's dad was a victim of windows 9x
They really are this fucking stupid. Oddly enough, this gives me hope that our planet won't end up a barren wasteland.
A sad listen. Also liv agar
I heard a rumor that JD Vance , trump and the cabinet. Were clowning elon on signal. About his new hat. A fedora with a flap in the back. But I didn't heard the boys mention it. So I guess it's just a rumor. God i wanted to believe it was true so bad.
Appreciate the support for Gen X folks who are still relatively sane! The US is the end-level boss though and i’ve spent my life at Scotland level just in case anyone thinks i’m claiming stolen valour!
I hope these monsters hear the screams of the innocence. In their dreams till the day they die.
insane for people to cheer over the killing of like 50 civilians
Travis is so pumped. 😂
Liv Agar
Ugly White people look prettier with blond hair because you can’t see what their face looks like as much. I know that bc I have dyed my hair blonde since I was 11.
Lol right? It’s like a friggin Viking wannabe uniform they wear… the MTG “look” really is a thing with these folks 🤣 …🤮 . Imho not so much about who’s attractive, more a desire, or worse, fear of not being White enough. Which makes this tendency much more sinister than it appears.
Why is Jake going to the DMV in person to reregister his car?
Both the United States and the world would be a safer place I believe if everyone in that group chat was FIRED INTO THE SUN and replaced...FTFY
LIV AGAR
Liv lives and gives 😁
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I like that they were also bringing up how some woman on the board of signal is apparently a "socialist" and they were like "SEE! She must have had something to do with this! She clearly hates America and is trying to ruin us!" Okay so why is Signal where you held the conversation then? Why are many people in government using this app? You said it was safe but it doesn't sound like it if there's an America-hater who has access and ability to leak and sabotage American military plans?
t55txd3 GTG r ref feed after y yet
Vance an Atheist?? He is a Christian Nationalist through and through
I think she means that she thinks he just likes the concept of the aesthetics, rhetoric, hhierarchy, female subordination, manifest destiny, prosperity gospel etc etc etc but doesn't actually BELIEVE in god. Especially not a god that would ever judge or punish him if he does bad things. Like he's an ideological Christian not a spiritual one. Which is impossible to know for sure, of course.
Liv's "atheist/atheist ticket" comment reminded me of a post I saw after Carter kicked, saying something like "The thing about Jimmy Carter is he was the last American President who both believed in Hell and understood he was going to end up there." I think about that at least once a week.
I wish you guys had had Julian on this one because he would’ve yelled at Travis over the extremely slanted framing of the “attacks” on shipping by the Houthis (as if they just attacked out of nowhere and weren’t responding reasonably to a genocide one of their neighbors was committing).
“The houthis, an Iran-backed organization” and fair enough if Travis is being a coward to avoid anti Israel rhetoric or whatever. But come on, grow a spine guys.
It’s pussy shit. I see why Julian isn’t in many episodes anymore. And I also see why Liv is embracing Lib Agar even harder
I think you guys should do some more reading about what's actually going on in Yemen. Just referring to Ansarallah as "an Iran backed group called the Houthis" is basically just buying into US govt framing here.
Also refferig to Goldberg as "a journalist" is a misnomer lol he's literally an IDF stenographer
It’s not just the incompetence, it’s the utter cowardice. After much posturing, Shady Vance spent 3 hours in Greenland, don’t think he even stepped on Greenlandic soil. Spent the whole time in a remote US missile base.
Hey guys! The one thing you missed about the Signal chat about war plans was that Trump wasn’t part of the conversation and had no idea about these strikes. They barely mentioned him! Joint Chiefs guy missing too!🤦🏻♂️
hey jake!!! you forgot to make a chaos magick reference. it was still a perfect episode though.
lol @ Travis gliding over explaining ansarallah as just “Iran backed rebels.” Thank you Jake tapper! 🫡
Jake's dad was right, you couldn't just start opening loads of stuff on old computers, they couldn't handle it
you could move the mouse around during startup though lmao
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great episode thank you
Liv explaining to Jakes Takes the real-life damage represented by emojis in Call of Duty terms has done something to my brain… O why does the Deep Dish deliver its loyal followers heaping servings of such knowledge??
Being President means you are the Commander In Chief. When that person is asked about information relevant to war plans and they say they know nothing about it…well, who approved the order?
I just had a jarring realization...I trust Liv, travis, and Jake far, far, far more than I trust the president of the US. Not surprising I guess but still jarring to state clearly
It’s been true as long as this podcast has existed
The thing that frustrates me about the firings the most is if I was a federal employee who was fired and then told I need to be rehired or that the firing was in error there is now way I wouldn’t use the lack of job security for leverage for a pay increase.
Can promise that nobody is reading the doge emails. I put one in before I took the buyout that would probably get me visited by the FBI/ Secret Service if anyone ever read it.
They are lucky Goldberg was the 1 who was added. He's the head honcho of dem establishment zionism
Goldberg removed himself because he's the ultimate establishment zionist editor. He didn't want to release any info that would hurt their hasbara
Goldberg is an ex idf corrections officer. He volunteered for that job. He worked in the same prison where that rape video was recorded. The houthis are more popular than ever. They are an indigenous zaydi shia movement. The area has been that shia splinter sects stronghold for centuries. You'll never defeat the houthis in their heartland
Gabbard is a hari krishna splinter cultist. That's who is running the country. Hegseth guzzles gallons of wild turkey 24/7. Hey it's good for the podcast at least
As I sit in the salon chair with blonde hair and dark roots
Isn't one of the biggest issues with all of this the Trump administration ignoring mandates from federal judges? With sending people to the prison in El Salvador and also flying people to Louisiana who have been detained by ICE for no reason? My understanding was this whole time the real canary in the coal mine of a total shutdown of checks and balances on the power of the executive branch would be when federal judges are just ignored. Which seems to be where we're at.
Dick Cheney’s unitary executive has finally been achieved
The group chat scandal reminds of those old facebook memes where people would simulate text conversations between historic leaders during wartime. Except it's real.
I never thought trump would spend his entire administration bombing Yemen and providing endless freebies to israel. Good episode
JD Vance is many (mostly stupid) things but he’s not an atheist. He’s a Catholic convert and no one’s more of a zealous believer than a convert.
As someone that lives in Cincy, that’s not entirely accurate. He’s a convert of convenience, not a convert of faith. He attends the most right-wing parish on Cincy’s East Side, he sends/sent his kids to the Catholic school with the most powerful connections. He didn’t convert because he believes any of this. He converted because it gives him access to power. Any Catholic that vocally and publicly questions the Pope cannot be seen as a true believer. JD’s Catholicism starts and ends with what he can get out of it and how he can use it for his own gain. If he was really about that conversion life he’d be holding meetings at the local KofC or helping with the parish festival. Instead, he’s helping his moron brother launch a bid for mayor and scolding foreign leaders.
Aaaaand now that same administration is going to devaluate the dollar on purpose and split the world into friends and foes.... for economists here isn't dollar already falling due to inflation? Isn't this is going to drive inflation even further?
it's ok mikey waltz, we've all been there #fatfingerproblems
Hey, Jake, give your dad some credit here. I think he was onto something with being patient with the computer!
Travis View
Jake, Ronald Fucking Reagan was the last president who claimed he had no idea what was going on (about the Iran/Contra deals). In Reagan's defense, he may have actually been very involved in those sales but due to Alzheimers, didn't remember it .
well...... ......I don't recall 🙂
"Hey, Columbia students for Peace, you gotta tag us if you want to get paid"
I am stupid thank you very much
liv agar
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Fucking seriously... the Atlantic has been one of the most liberal publications in America going back to endorsing Lincoln and the abolition of slavery... sorry they ain't as fucking left wing as you want them to be, but also, your political opinions are unrealistic. Im a Socialist, but I fight hard for democrats every election, because to think that someone besides a dem or a republican will be elected is childish. There is a difference between the two parties. And id rather keep dems in office and push people like AOC and Jasmine Crocket to keep pushing the party left. You all seem to push an agenda of defeat
heck of a socialist. if only we had more like you right
To call the editor of the Atlantic a right-wing shitty reporter is fucking offensive... also, he was in a group called "small group yemen"... chances are not much was said after the strike happened. Im liberal as fuck, but the hate from the "far left" (which im a part of) to more left than center institutions is fucking stupid and unproductive
Yeah. The Columbia Journalism Review described The Atlantic’s handling of the story as a “rare instance of accountability journalism,” and the number 1 criticism of Goldberg is that he’s “liberal” lol the man literally wrote a book on the importance of discourse & humanity between Israelis & Palestinians (a humanity he discovered as an IDF prison guard, like an Opposite Day Nelson Mandela story, to be fair). Stay hopeful & productive 💚
Yes, liv. That’s the shit cherry on the shit cake. How fucking stupid these loser murderers are. May they go to the wood chipper in the sky sooner rather than later.
42:57 the whistle
Rogue not Jubilee Jake, COME ON
I was looking to see if anyone else had mentioned this, because comics nerd stuff is what I know enough to correct people on. And Rogue's been in a lot more X-Men media, than Jubilee, who was last in X-Men '97, in her most iconic form, and previous to that, was in the actual '90s show. Because Logan, Chill Girldad is less of a guaranteed moneymaker than Wolverine, Stabby but Stable Menace
if only the most powerful American decision makers weren't also 1950s propaganda weebs
Liv Agar
Liv agar