Ku Klux feat Devin O’Shea (Premium E261)

Congrats Devin, can't wait to read that book.

WHO IS THAT IN THE AUTO Q? Is that Tucker?!

Great episode and don’t change a thing!

hi!! what was the name of the podcast devin mentioned to listen to about the civil war? great episode!

I resubscribed for this episode. Don’t know what that says about me, but great episode and always love to hear from Devin O’Shea. 💪

Can you unlock this? It’s really fascinating and I’d like to share with some friends

Are their photos of those early janky costumes?

This guest could use some acting coaching from Jake. The flat affect is deadening to listen to compared to the usual talent.

Be nice to Jake! I appreciate his Skyrim Civil War analogy 😤

What a great episode! 👏🏻

Horrific. Devin's episodes are always so good and so horrifying 👏👏👏 Also, this calls to mind 'Ring Shout' by P Djèlí Clark, a novel set in this same time period and also deeply horrifying. And satisfyingly violent.

As someone who larps, I find this not surprising but helpful for contextual using my experiences. The main larp I do is a giant festival and much of the story comes from a meme or a bit that gains traction during drunken revelry. These bits often end with costumes parades or elaborate scenes-somehow becoming religions or other in-game groups that people feel real attachment to. I’m often told I’m too sensitive and strict about themes or people I engage with, but I think this is exactly why….costumes/crowds/group creativity is so powerful and it takes one bad seed to turn normal people into capable of committing evil. It is so sad that something so beautiful (humans ability to come together) can be exploited and twisted by evil people or just ignorant ones.

Can we do more episodes in Christopher Walken “accents” going forward?

Imagine dying in the real life 1800's Purge movie

Great ep, but Devin’s portrayal of Charivari (and Skimmington) is anachronistic for the early modern period. Such practices were also fundamental for communities in resisting unjust oppression. Calling something “vigilante” makes little sense in a period before there were police forces. For France see Natalie Zemon Davis, for England E.P. Thompson

classic brain...

Great episode but Devin told me to listen to the war nerd podcast about the Civil War. I couldn’t find it on apple platform. Anybody know where to find this?

Jake is the Emperor Palpatine of comedy and COVID is his absolute power

Huh. Always wondered where the wedding night tradition of ‘shivaree’/‘chivary’ came from. I’ll be damned.

plus ça change

The descriptions of the charivari and carnivalesque violence are incredibly scary. Straight out of a horror movie.

The pitfalls of doing a southern accent. In 1976 there was a play, on Broadway, “The Last Meeting of the Knights of the White Magnolia,” part of a cycle of three plays called The Texas Trilogy. Fred Gwynne played Col. J. C. Kincaid, a member of a tiny, Klan-like group in the early ‘60’s. The seriousness of the play was undercut by an audience who had all watched “The Munsters.” Fred Gwynne, out of his Herman Munster make-up and with a fine southern drawl, was still Fred Gwynne, but his skill soon overrode our sitcom-mediated view. I watched, with my fellow freshman theatre classmates, from the orchestra seats. We were earnestly experiencing the serious drama, even as Colonel Kincaid strode downstage and loomed over us. But then he laughed. The moment was meant to be serious, maybe chilling. But a reflexive, surprised chuckling rolled through the audience as - suddenly - sweet, goofy Herman Munster appeared. We stifled it quickly, ashamed at our gauche, Pavlovian reaction. We gave Fred a hearty, and a bit apologetic, applause at the end. The play ran less than a month.

"I'm not racist, but my fursona..."

Happy to be 1 of the 11 Southern listeners. Jake's accent is totally fine sounds kinda like my grandpa from Savannah tbh lol

Great episode! But only an American could say the sentence "nothing is really older than 200 yrs in any given culture. "

Where's the quiz? I was promised a quiz!

Not a Southerner but I bet I have cousins in nonviolent fiddle groups on my moms side ☘️

cuckolds, even? so harsh

A number of names reference?! My gahd Julian I love it. Great fuckin song

Southern listener here, love the accents

I had limited info on this subject and this was eye opening. How can anyone “both sides” a violent, evil group like the Klan? fascinating but makes me feel like I need a shower. 😝

The documentary Who Put The Klan In Ku Klux Klan is a very good doc!

Who else loves being one out of 11 southerners listening to this podcast

Fun fact about the plaque in Pulaski commemorating the spot the KKK was founded. It was flipped to face the wall in 1989 by the owners of the building to show the town had turned it’s back on the KKK.

As a Northerner I’m suddenly concerned with the number of Southerners infiltrating our ranks. 😶🤣

Missed you Jake 😁❤️

“Klan War” is a great book detailing how Reconstruction met so many initial roadblocks but people didn’t back down. Gave me bump in respect for Grant.

Quebec: ‘now why am *I* in this?’

NC listener here. Jake, your accents and hat commentaries are always on point. And southern Julian is mighty fine. A truly horrifying tale of a not-so-distant era. Thanks ya’ll.

Fuck yea Sharevari!

I really appreciated not only Devin O’Shea's writing, but also your horrified reactions and insights into the darkness of human nature. Yes, you all make quite a few off-colour jokes all the time, and yes, you pretend that you are just silly guys who make a lot of pop culture references, but when it comes down to it, you are deeply humane and caring people.

Waves are wrong second was 1920s-30s and third was Civil Rights

Big day for O'Sheaheads

liv agar

The klan, when a horde of zombies just isn’t terrifying enough

Sorry to be a downer, but the ghostly looking man in the photo is John Lester. However the young person in the front row is unidentified and could be the devil. UNC Press Blog, Courtesy of the Giles County Historical Society

If y'all ever need accents from any of the categories Houston, TX/Alabama/exactly Hank Hill, just lmk

it's me, an 11 southern listener

Fun fact: the 2nd wave of the KKK was mostly an MLM.

Another of your 11 southern listeners. Like the accents. Need to add one with more twang, jake!

Great show, my favorite podcast though

That's old upper crust Georgian accent. No one in Tennessee talks like that

St. Louis is lucky to have you, Mr. O'Shea

Y'all need to broaden your southern accent repertoire outside of Savannah, GA. It sounds like that's the only one you know 😂 great ep. I hope Jake feels better soon!

Very excited for this episode. My dissertation is on white surpemacist terrorism in the post-Reconstruction South. The history of the KKK is so much weirder than people realize. Can’t wait to listen!!

Thanks for another great episode. Things really haven't changed. The song remains the same. Bad people, dressing up to do bad things, ignored (or collaboration with) cops, a clueless press, and inept federal government. 1860's same as the 2000s.

the rhyming between the KKK, nazis, and Israel is insane but also so clear it’s enough to make you insane

Listening to Jake's description of the founding group photo in the first 5 minutes and I'm suddenly much less surprised one of the Mumford & Sons members made a far right turn.

Any episode with Devin is an instant play

I'm sure you'll have more than 11 comments here from southern listeners alone. Y'all need to respect the listners out here in Magaland! Bless your hearts <3

Oooh, Devin O'Shea!

I am one of the 11 southern listeners and the accents are not forgiven. I do not appreciate the work y’all do! Going to cancel you on Twitter dot com for this one I’m afraid

Northern’er here and I am damn excited to hear bad southern accents.

Southern listener checking in. You mock my ancestors, Jake. Prepare to be haunted by some really racist ghosts

I am one of the 11 southern listeners and the accents are entirely forgiven. I appreciate the work y’all do!