Anti-Chemtrails Laws feat. Teddy Wilson (E275)
Though the “chemtrails” conspiracy theory has long been dismissed by scientists, aviation experts, and other skeptics, the Tennessee legislature has taken it very seriously. On April 11th, Tennessee Governor Bill Lee signed into law SB2691, which bans the ‘intentional injection, release, or dispersion’ of chemicals within Tennessee ‘with the express purpose of affecting temperature, weather, or the intensity of the sunlight.” Though the law doesn’t explicitly use the word chemtrails, it was inspired by chemtrail conspiracy theorists.
On this episode we talk to independent journalist Teddy Wilson of Radical Reports about the anti-chemtrails bills in Tennessee and other state legislatures.
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REFERENCES
Radical Reports: Why Are GOP State Lawmakers Introducing Bills Based on Claims by Fringe Conspiracy Theorists?
https://www.radicalreports.org/p/why-are-gop-state-lawmakers-introducing
Some Dare Call It Conspiracy: Chemtrails On Trial
https://www.spreaker.com/episode/chemtrails-on-trial-part-1-8--58112535
To what extent do you believe in the conspiracy theory that the government is using chemicals to control the population (chemtrails)?
MIT Technology Review Solar geoengineering could start soon if it starts small
Aircraft clouds: From chemtrail pseudoscience to the science of contrails
Mètode Science Studies Journal, vol. 8, pp. 181-187, 2018
Universitat de València
https://www.redalyc.org/journal/5117/511766757028/html/
Terrell, Steven. Santa Fe New Mexican. Assignment led journalist/activist into "chemtrail" obsession, 1999
https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-santa-fe-new-mexican-chemtrails-1999/133314562/
Comments (53)
Does the episode touch on cloud seeding tech ?
What if the contrails are just God’s goon juice?
Sky cummies 😲😩😋🥴
Speaking of TN — would you guys address the arm teachers with guns in public schools debacle 😬
I live in Tennessee (not the part that the rest of the state likes that much) and I can confirm that the state that has an official state .50 rifle would have a state dome if they could find a way to swindle the feds into paying for it
My husband flew cloud seeding planes in his senior year of college at the university of ND. They've been seeding clouds in ND since the 60s. They tried to pass a bill like this in ND but it was shot down by the senate...
I know it's used a lot in droughty states on the west coast and TX. It's definitely not an esoteric activity limited to Dubai. 😂 I'm just glad I only had to hear stories of all the crazy storms they flew in -- this was a little bit before smart phones.
Chemtrails qua chemtrails may only date back to '96, but in the late 80s I heard lectures at alternative medicine conferences about "scalar electromagnetic weapons" that created electromagnetic "grids" in the atmosphere that contrails would be attracted to and settle onto, and whose fields would cause fined-tuned emotional and mood shifts in people under them. One nice add-in with this version of "the clouds are evil" conspiracy was the assertion that the Soviets were putting up grids over the US during happy hour tuned to "horny", so as to facilitate the spread of their nefarious bioweapon, AIDS...
As soon as there is a t-shirt with the new logo on I am buying it. Love you chaps.
Re solar Geoengineering, I work in academia (security studies) and two close colleagues have told me that US defence officials have indicated to them that stratospheric aerosol injection is being actively considered as a response to climate change, and is likely just years away from deployment, if that You quote Alan Robock - ask him about solar geoengineering and he'll tell you the same
At first I thought Jake was talking about his dog..!
Chemtrails, as my partner believed them, was the easiest thing to disprove to her and help de-radicalise her wellbeing view of the world which had started going south during covid.
Hey I noticed recently on Spotify that the earliest available episode was 44, and today it was 45. Is the back catalogue falling off Spotify or something? (It was the same on my partner's feed too)
I’m not sure what’s going on with Spotify … but I can say it’s happened to other Pods I listen to. No one seems to have an answer 😕
If we're doing some vintage crankery Morgelions (sp?) ep when?
Loving the new intro
"We need someone doing this but for AI" - you guys should do an episode on LessWrong!
No mention of Dane Wigington at all? He's behind "geoengineering watch" and the popular YouTube documentary called "the dimming" that has millions of views. He's been putting out weekly fear videos for over a decade AFAIK (He's very careful not to use crackpot terms like chemtrails and i'm not surprised people find him convincing. Definitely one of the leading figures in the movement tho was def expecting a mention at least.
To pick up on Teddy’s thought that the evolution of ideas like this can be traced back to, say, panics and conspiracy theories about fluoridated water, I clearly recall people back in the UK in the early to mid-1970s worrying about contamination of the ground by solids in jet airplane fumes falling to earth. A kids’ show (“Magpie”), which I used to watch, once had some kind of expert on who talked about it. This was about the time that people were getting wise to the problems with lead in fuel, so it may have been tangled up with that issue, too. Not chemtrails as such, but perhaps a forerunner of the notion.
Most people think chemtrails are left by high altitude jet aircraft. This is false. Actually, chemicals are spread by tiny drones flying at between 10, to 25 feet. The drones are usually only about the size of a house fly. I was told this by a magical doll's head, which I found on a Florida beach many years ago. 😆 🤣 😂
I would watch contrails form in to clouds, luckily I went to FlightTrack before I totally fell down that rabbit hole. It kind of ruins the theory when I could see where the plane is from, heading to, type of plane, ground speed and altitude
Can y’all do an episode about Naked Short Selling Conspiracy and bring on Dan Olson from Folding Ideas?
That would be the crossover of the century
Man, this is like the millionth time where the conspiracy theory is traced back to some obvious crank or a grifter. Do the people who believe in this stuff just never look into where this stuff is coming from or what?
💯% and if they do they don't care, cuz it fits what they already believe/feel
When the guest discussed Jolie Diane talking to government officials elsewhere: haha, other places are backward. Then he mentioned bucks county PA: wait that’s where I live. 😳
I looked it up, the guest (Teddy) misspoke... Jolie talked to the YORK county officials, where failed gubernatorial candidate/gigantic asshole Doug Mastriano is a state senator.
Just a reminder when talking about drivers of environmental damage and climate change that animal agriculture is bigger than the whole of transportation globally for greenhouse gas emissions, and most of the emissions are created on the site of production, the farm
Oxford university concluded the most comprehensive analysis to date, published last year in Nature Food: "Eating a vegan diet massively reduces the damage to the environment caused by food production, the most comprehensive analysis to date has concluded. The research showed that vegan diets resulted in 75% less climate-heating emissions, water pollution and land use than diets in which more than 100g of meat a day was eaten. Vegan diets also cut the destruction of wildlife by 66% and water use by 54%, the study found. The heavy impact of meat and dairy on the planet is well known, and people in rich nations will have to slash their meat consumption in order to end the climate crisis" https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jul/20/vegan-diet-cuts-environmental-damage-climate-heating-emissions-study
To Travis' point: I'm not sick and I haven't seen a squirrel in months, so there!
Fellas I'm gonna need the new theme on YouTube or something so I can jam to it on repeat.
I wonder if the Kentucky law will make illegal "hail cannons" that are commonly used in fruit orchards. A blast of acetylene (??) in a cone/cannon pointed at the sky disrupts the clouds with blasts of air pressure, keeping hail from growing to fruit-damaging sizes. Air is a chemical. These literally exist and are ubiquitous in Georgia peach fields. Kentucky might have just accidentally outlawed them! 🤣
I started following Teddy Wilson recently and liked his work. Lo and behold, he turns up here, clearly enjoying himself. Hi Teddy, keep up the good work and hope you return to QAA soon.
kempt rails
Tidy Infrastructure.
The only way to stop a bad guy with gunk is a good guy with gunk
Clamtrails 🐚
"A lot of this stuff is...scientific." Instant spit take, I'm dyin 😂
But Avgas is fine?🫣
Leaded aviation fuel casually still being leaded while chemtrails guys never mention it
Cumtrails 💖
Calmtrails
So... they made seeding the clouds illegal? (I haven't listened to the episode yet.)
Admirable restraint on Jake’s part to not share with the guest that they have the same name as his dog. (Unless he did, but it was pre-interview).
This is the best discussion of my state’s dumb legislation. Hoping you hit the banning of Covid lettuce before the episode ends 😂
What's the banning of Covid lettuce?
Chemtrail these nuts across yo face
The real contrails are the condescension trails radiating off of Travis
I hadn't gotten a chance to say it, but this art is fuggin sick. 😍😍😍😍
Chumtrails
squirrels did it
Yes! Definitely 🐿️ spreading fatigue and diarrhea, not Sars-Cov-19, a 🦠 known to fairly commonly present these two symptoms during the respiratory infection and 1 in 20 *infections* leading to long term health conditions, fatigue and GI issues featuring frequently with some never recovering or clocking up further infections during the ruling classes let rip phase we've been in for 2 years, that silently cause cumalitive damage to the body. But hell, i refuse to accept any more diarrhea and fatigue from these fatigue and diarrhoea squirrels ✋ 🐿️😩 💩 ⛔
CHEMTRAILS (Also first! 😁)