Trickle Down Episode 20: Retrospective
The last episode of this season of Trickle Down. So we’re going to do a self-indulgent one. In this episode we discuss common criticisms of “anti-disinformation” reporting, the topics Travis wound up passing on, and listener stories. You had a lot to say about the Thomas Midgley Jr. series.
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Comments (37)
My partner is an HVAC-R tech and loved the listener story of the union worker. He is currently working for a company that changes supermarkets’ refrigeration to CO2 which is pretty cool. Jake should hop over to the r/refrigeration subreddit if he wants to learn more!
UA IN THE HOUUUUUSE 447 here
I meant to write this on the other episode covering it, but I know Dr. Carol Tilley and her work on Werhwm is amazing. So glad to hear her mentioned on the podcast.
I'd just like to point out that this podcast finished 15 minutes before my commute ended.
Shmicky is that you?
The recent episode of Citations Needed about the Atlantic Magazine is a good companion piece to this. They talk about how the people who promoted the “Iraq has weapons of mass destruction and works with Al Qaeda” conspiracies did rebrand themselves as misinformation experts after the Trump election which is kind of what Greenwald was getting at. There is a lot of space between a skeptic who does debunkings and an authority figure who uses the aesthetics of skepticism to push their agenda.
I think I read that Fruit Stripe Gum was discontinued late last year. RIP to the goat
Came here to say this
after first hearing of this series the first thing that came to mind was bad forensics science - that one would definitely be of public service - doo ittt 🙏
May he who has not bathed a disgraced Ivy League professor cast the first stone
I sent in this story and your comment warms my heart, haha.
I love hearing from listeners in the Dayton area. There are dozens of us!
Trickledown has become my favorite part of QAA. The episode on Brian Wansink brought memories of my mother’s efforts to get me to eat more as a child back from the abyss of my brain. The eugenics episodes last year were fascinating. The comic book episode was close to my heart as a collector. Thank you Travis and please bring us a season three.
Really enjoyed this series, thanks Travis. Especially enjoyed the Gatorade episodes, I distinctly remember being six years old and some other kids insisting their Gatorade was "healthier" than the water I was drinking, and that's just stuck with me because it was weird. Also enjoy learning things on my commute and/or while doing chores. Excited to see what's coming next
This has been my favorite special run. You guys make great content and I love randomly laughing out loud in public places while I listen to your content.
Thank you guys! And thank you Jake :)
Fruit stripe is goated, perfectly described by Jake
Also a long term r/HVAC lurker, can understand Jake here
i think we’ve all had sex with brian
Jake = HVACurious.
Having to hang up your defensive cleats affects everyone differently
You should (I would join you but I'm in Europe...) take over Kettering's estate and turn it into the QAA COMMUNITY CENTER.
I'll work on it.
This makes me feel all kinds of ways because I'm seeing what looks like this type of idea while it's still gaining steam, contributing to the trans genocide. Hitting the same notes as many of the episodes. I'm trying to think what graduate program would give me enough credibility to get the data used in some very suss studies. Even though I could already use logistic regression to test the findings used by Dr. Kaltiala and other by scientists associsted with the anti-trans The Society for Evidence Based Gender Medice. But not without the data. The harm is being done both kids and adults from Florida to Finland and beyond. Unfortunately I have done my own research, and the gates they are keeping. The head of adolescent psychiatry at a Finnish university testified in favor of Florida's ban on GAC for trans youth, but her research is garbage: you could teach a class on what not to do in methodoly with her body of work, but it gets published in respected medical journals. Five different peer reviews saw no issue in different papers in psychiatry citing transphobic blather from a journal that also publishes art criticism, poetry, and the religious meaning of bees in dreams. And her only experience with puberty blockers was calling CPS and the cops after hearing a family got their child prescribed them by a private doctor (in Finland legally you can only gate GAC in two clinics). I could go on, but the sad truth is that administrators like her results as they indicate that if anything, less funding is needed. Actually the result is wasting a ton by requiring a huge amount of psychiatric evaluation, and in the case of autistic people mandatory therapy first. American dark money is going into this, but the problem is also the centralized nature of healthcare in Finland and overall trust in the authority of public healthcare providers, a remnant from the time before they were gutted by austerity. Same applies to other countries propped up as models by SEGM.
Travis deserves praise!
QAA retrospective has me feeling super nostalgic. Love you Daddy Travis, Mom Julian and everyone’s brother Jake.
I read recently that carbon dioxide can be used at a refrigerant, and that CO2 systems can be really efficient, although they require higher pressures and have a higher initial cost. But the refrigerant is only as potent as CO2!
Bravo gents. Keep the seasons coming.
Foresnsics could easily be its own miniseries. There's just so much fake garbage and the worst part is some of it is still being submitted as evidence and used by police.
Being from Cincinnati, Dayton is one of the last fucking places I'd go to on purpose in the apocalypse or on most days.
Are there outdoor bowling alleys?
Yes.
this episode ended just as i got back from my bike ride!! (nearly fell off from laughing during the last listener story)
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wow this HVAC tech is a hero and i’m scared
Have you guys ever considered doing a QAA episode on Glenn Greenwald? I was caught off guard hearing his name again but I feel like the trajectory from "guy who helped publish Snowden leaks" to "pedantic grifter who probably (allegedly) got reality winner arrested due to negligence" is interesting
If this happens, a must-read for background (and documentation of falsehoods by Greenwald and Snowden) is Barton Gellman's book, Dark Mirror: Edward Snowden and the American Surveillance State. Gellman concludes that Snowden has been more honest than the US government, but catches him in an outright lie (and does the same with Greenwald). Gellman's work is a nice contrast with Greenwald's--it's more technically literate, better researched, and more objective.
