EARLY EPISODE: The Troubles Part 3

The more I learn about British policing actions in the 70s, the more I understand their portrayal in Threads (1984). Because that film isn't depressing enough already.

I know this show's default lvl of grim is 10/10, but after reading the comments on this boy I'm sitting this one out for a bit haha

Can we get a retroactive animal fact to start the next episode pls?

“Human nature is to just get through the day.” - I’ve never heard something so true!

I got to visit Tbilisi once for about a week or two. I loved it there so much I wanna go there again... And live there. Idk why but there's something about that city that is just amazing.

This episode officially holds the record for the most JFCs I’ve dropped in an episode. There’s nolack of terrible shit I’ve listened too in this podcast, but something about this one hit me differently.

One of my friends grew up during the tail end of the troubles in Belfast. Grew up in a Protestant family, and had some sympathy towards the Catholics as many of them faced horrible discrimination when it comes to jobs and housing opportunities. However, he hated the IRA not because they were fighting for a free Ireland or that they were Catholic, but because his friends and neighbors were killed as bystanders in car bombings or shootings. The Unionists and Republicans participated in "tit for tat" killings, where both sides respond to murder with more murders to keep it even. This of course made life pretty miserable, as walking down the wrong street at the wrong time can get you killed. Talking to the wrong people can get you into major trouble. He eventually left for England, it became too much for him. He had plenty of stories growing up in Belfast. During holidays, he brought home his Jewish friend from uni, and they were going to meet up some of his old friends for drinks. The conversation went something like this: "Hey, your uni friend, is he Catholic or Protestant?" "... He's neither, he's Jewish" "Oh, ok. Is he a Catholic Jew or Protestant Jew?" "......... Protestant Jew."

Well, this show didnt have me almost crying in public for a long while, we had a good run

I would just like to share a quote from Hansard (the official record of UK parliment proceedings) "Almost 50 years ago 14 unarmed civil rights marchers were murdered on the streets of Derry by the Parachute Regiment. Five of those victims were shot by David Cleary, otherwise known as soldier F." - Colum Eastwood, MP for Foyle (which contains Derry) Source: https://hansard.parliament.uk//Commons/2021-07-13/debates/CDF9AFDF-4BFA-4FA1-8481-B68CAF2DDB5F/ArmedForcesBill#contribution-768D1B2D-D4F5-405E-812A-8903DCEF768A

Thank fuck the intro wasn’t that U2 song.

Heres an article from BBC about Bloody Sunday with maps, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/8572763.stm

Just when I thought the show was hitting the upper limits of grim, Joe goes and announces a 3-parter on Rwanda!

I'm mostly English and French, the French via Quebec. It's embarrassing.

Jesus. As an Englander-man I'm sorry for the shit we keep pulling since the dawn of time. Also, being slightly Irish (my granddad was from Galway, hence my surname and red hair), I'm in a weird bonus position of that my distant relatives have a history of being shitty to *each other*, in a way.

The Bader Meinhoff Gruppe was the first Generation of the Red Army Faction. And yes, they weren't exactly competent.