EARLY EPISODE: The Battle of Milvian Bridge
Constantine has a vision (or not) and takes the Roman throne in an incredibly one-sided battle that may or may not end with a different Emperor being drowned in the river.
SOURCES:
Lactantius. On the Deaths of the Persecutors.
David Potter. Constantine: The Emperor.
Ross Cowan. Milvian Bridge AD 312: Constantine's battle for Empire and Faith.
Ludwig Heinrich Dyck. The Battle of Milvian Bridge: Battle for the Western Empire. Military Heritage. Feb. 2003. Volume 4, No. 4.
http://www.classichistory.net/archives/constantine-christianity
https://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf201.iii.xv.ix.html
https://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf201.iv.vi.i.xxviii.html
Comments (49)
If Joseph Smith is an American Wizard. Then L Ron Hubbard is absolutely another American wizard
Vermin Supreme is definitely a modern American wizard
Sidney Gottlieb is The American Dark Wizard
Constantine's biggest accomplishment was getting a Lord Captain of the Custodes named after him
Nazgul Inc, my favorite Gorillaz song
Anytime Tom Nate and Joe get this jokey I know a series of unspeakable atrocities is around the corner
So where can we invest in Nazgul Industries?
Love this episode! If I’m stuck in the last fictional book that I’ve read I’m stuck in the world of 1984. As an American, I’m pretty much halfway there.
Joe Tom Nate
This episode it’s very topical to my life right now because I just made my girlfriend watch Lord of the rings for the first time and at the end of it we talked about horse genocide
Ngl, I can totally see Joe being a Belter from Callisto that got drafted into the MCRN. And he has SO many stories about dumb shit he did with his buddies wandering around the Belt on a broken Morrigan Class destroyer XD
Fr 🤣🎯
LeGuin is my favorite author and I'll say it's pretty obvious that her parents were anthropologists.
So many people are going to be mad you called church service a “Christian stage show” and I’m so excited for that.
I've never heard of Constanius. I have heard of Constantius, who was Constantine's dad. Love you, Joe, but the way your pronounce Latin names mihi non placet.
Good luck with that translation, it sounds like a great story
“…the mileage we got out of it when the twin towers came out.” I think you may have meant “the two towers” but oh boy does the man flesh joke take an unintended, MUCH darker twist. Whoops LOL
As for books... This morning I finished "The Assassination of the Butcher of Prague." Before that it was a book about a women's orchestra at Auschwitz, and before that it was a book about Ravensbrück. I've just started reading Randa Abdel-Fattah's novel "Discipline," which Australia's zionuts accidentally made a best seller. And waiting sort of eagerly for a new biography of Oskar Dirlewanger, which will be released in Australia on March 1. I probably need help.
A note about Constantine's deathbed baptism: Historian/Biblical scholar Bart Ehrman stated that at the time of Constantine baptism meant a commitment to never sin again for the rest of your life, and breaking that commitment was unforgivable. So deathbed baptisms were incredibly common during that era, even among people born/raised in a Christian household.
It's so funny to me that even in a time that close to when Jesus was actually around, Christians were already doing this insufferable rules lawyering shit about commitment to their religion. I guess some things just never change.
Correction: Lakewood Church in Houston used to be the home of the Houston Rockets. They also had a fair amount of concerts there, I saw AC/DC there as a kid.
aaaaaw yeah BYZANTINE SHIT
My favorite example of early Christianity trying to convert pagans by using pagan imagery is The Dream of the Rood, which is a retelling of the Crucifixion from the perspective of the tree that was turned into the Cross, and how the tree is all decked out with gold and jewelry in tree heaven because it was sacrificed along with Jesus, and that Jesus was basically a badass warrior who bravely went to his crucifixion like a guy would go to a fatal battle. It's a really interesting example of trying to take this story of victory coming out of defeat and make it sound badass so that you can convert vikings in Britain.
I want to offer support to people who rethink historical scenarios. While some may take it too far, the value in it is to show critical thinking and how to think through scenarios in order to achieve better outcomes in the future. It’s a way to plan for future events, even if they never occur. It’s a way to think through alternatives, create breaks, and have more iron dice to throw. It’s a version of war gaming that should be encouraged. It should just have some norms put over it so you don’t pull a Jordan Peterson.
"Yes, we Romans don't do human sacrifice like some barbarians. We just execute criminals in creative ways in the arena, or work slaves to death. Totally different."
The modern day Vatican was literally built over Rome's Caligola Circus Arena, so sports centers becoming religious sites is as old as Roman Christianity.
Wow, shots fired at Harry Turtledove at the end there.
Really curious what people who believe in the rapture think they're going to do with money after the rapture
I would pay an unholy amount of money to watch Joe fight Joel Osteen.
Vermin Supreme should clearly be in the American wizard pantheon
This is the platform where I get to draw the lines between what I learned a long time ago in Roman history and Microsoft Corporation. I luv you LLBD. This is how Bill Gates named Windows XP, because he thinks of himself as Christ and got the idea from Constantine the Great. Please like me and laugh. If you don't like it, please don't tell the internet.
Roman's worshipping a meteor we could have essentially had the cult of Sigmar irl but we got this stuff instead this is bullshit
That's the first I've heard of Armor For Sleep in possibly decades
Ah, the church of Leibowitzianus Ye Olde Siegee Yngineere. This is a decent ice shoveling listen.
Yeah sure I'll add Constantine being a serb to my beliefs
So Coco had already had an almost identical vision. He'd hate megachurches bc the whole point of legitimizing & ecumenizing the christians was to be a cesaropapi Edit: Rome did human sacrifice a lot later after the prohibition. For one, the ritual strangulation at the altar of JOM which was the climax of the Triumphs is 100% human sacrifice. But like the persecution of Christian's were absolutely sacrifice to re-establish the pax deorum On the Sybiline Books: they seem to have been less soothsaying & more "when x do y" but they were almost certainly lost by the time of Constantine, with Gus the first being a likely culprit as he burned sooooo may oracular texts. This book found was likely a psyop. High Castle was with the Yi Ying not the Dao De Ying. Baptism was not as central to the adoption of Christianity yet. It is the ecumenical councils that he sets up that places baptism so central American wizards: Jack Parsons, Lafayette R Hubbard, William Penn, Benji Frank Also the princeps was also the pontifex Maximus, the bridge between man & gods, visions, the ability to secure divine favor, would be legitimizing
It's really handy to realize that during the principate, the princeps had no solid to for legitimacy
Constantine every couple of turns actually gets to buff his army with a mark from one of the gods. Some of the gods are region locked though, so he can only for instance activate the Jesus mark near Rome. Gives you a massive morale boost while increasing enemy morale loss
As an Italian, hearing Joe calling repeatedly the person I know as "Imperatore Massenzio" as "Emperor Max" is causing me psychic damage.
Rainy day, it’s cold, got some hot coffee, new donk episode and slow day at work. Time to lock in.
Committing self-coup-pu
Ancient Roman leaders making drunk plans is hilarious as hell.
“Tom Bombadil, OG Sigma Male”, the greatest thread in the history of forums, locked by a moderator after 12,239 pages of heated debate,
Gonna go look for the Tom Bom / Aslan furry slashfic
My answer to the Legion question would be Out of The Shadows by Jason Wallace and man would I like to get my hands on some of the characters in that book.
And, remember the Emperor wouldn't have had tomatoes thrown at him, because they were about 1,000 years away (shit). However there would have been plenty of offal, various types of cabbage, turnips, sour cucumbers and beetroot. Think of the stains you could get on the emperor's shiny white clothes!
Out of curiosity, purely as an Australian... are we ever going to get an episode about the Battle of Beersheba?
Speaking of Romecast why wasn’t it called Romiecast? The opportunity was right there
Talking about romies
