July 20, 2025

EARLY EPISODE: The Battle of Abritus

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It is never a good time to go hiking in the swamp with 100,000 of your friends and two Emperors.

Sources:

https://earth-history.com/Europe/Goths/jordanes-goths-04-3rdcentury.htm

https://historycollection.com/two-roman-emperors-brutally-died-battle-251-ad/

Jones, Christopher P. Further Dexippus (Online).

Ludwig Heinrich Dyck. "Philippolis: Roman Disaster on the Western Border." Military Heritage. April 2008. Vol. 9. No. 5

The Cambridge Ancient History: Volume 12, The Crisis of Empire, AD

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Brick Haus · July 24, 2025

My brother-in-law sings Werewolves of London at karaoke if people are being too shy. Says that if you can get a room full of people to go Awooo, they're no longer afraid to sing lol

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Hammerthrust Von Sexron · July 23, 2025

Ha! Tom said schlepping. That’s great.

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Jake Rawls · July 22, 2025

Fun fact about Phillip the Arab: He was the first Roman emperor to openly have friendly relations with Christians, to the point that the early Christian historian Eusebius speculated that Phillip was secretly a Christian. This is most likely not true, but the fact he even brings this up tells us a lot about Phillip compared to other emperors of the period.

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Jake Rawls · July 22, 2025

The key to karaoke is to know your audience. Bar with a lot of boomers? Johnny Cash and Conway Twitty. Gen X? Any one hit wonder from the 90's. Millenials? Lady Gaga or Taylor Swift. And yes, I enjoy the weird looks when I (a straight bald dude) go up to the stage and BORN THIS WAY appears on the screens.

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Panic Enthusiast · July 22, 2025

So happy to hear Tom say Roy Orbeson. It's my go to karaoke.

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ruin · July 22, 2025

Pretty sure "Cniva" is pronounced "Kniva", some etymology sources seem to think it's the gothic cognate of the word "Knife" and the K wouldn't have been silent yet. Also Roman C is a K sound usually.

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Brendan Bonner · July 22, 2025

Some of the most insufferable people I’ve met have been adult Catholic converts. An adult Catholic convert who married into my family was very upset when I pointed out to him that his confirmation name, Sebastian, is the patron saint of queer Catholics. He was not aware of this fact.

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JM · July 22, 2025

To rain on a parade - St Sebastian is not a patron saint of the LGBTQ. He is considered a patron saint of archers (ironic), soldiers, sick people, and some towns amongst other things. The LGBTQ association comes from members of the community adopting him as a symbol, that is an association comparable to being a folk-saint. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folk_saint

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Al · July 21, 2025

Summer of Sieges.

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have you heard the word of Maidens of the Fall? · July 21, 2025

"Getting hacked to death by Goths at the gate" -- it should have been ME!!!

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Max W · July 21, 2025

Wait so you’re telling me that the Roman Empire was brought down by the same boring institutional erosion that happens to all large land empires over a long enough timeline, and not by woke DEI emperors?

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J · July 21, 2025

I'd love to see Joe take on one of the many many stupid battles in ancient China, but I'm worried about how much name pronunciation coaching is needed

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Thomas Layton · July 23, 2025

I propose drafting in a Chinese historian as a guest. Preferably one who has never listened to the show before.

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Marjorie Zeager · July 21, 2025

The best karaoke performance I've ever seen was at an Emo Night and someone did Everywhere I Go by Hollywood Undead, and it was great because that song sucks but the guy had a certain stage presence about him.

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Matt · July 21, 2025

That’s a solid choice for dirtbag karaoke.

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conner poe · July 21, 2025

The damned mentioned !!!

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LeobaL · July 21, 2025

As a GenX Australian there is only one possible karaoke choice. The Angels: AM I EVER GONNA SEE YOUR FACE AGAIN. If you know, you know.

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LeobaL · July 21, 2025

When the empire really went to shit, as it did several times, particularly when the Praetorians got too stabby, there was one sure fire, absolute guaranteed way of getting to be emperor- have the biggest, baddest army. No one argued with the dude who had thousands of well trained, well armed, seasoned soldiers who were personally loyal to HIM.

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Brittney With An E · July 21, 2025

I think you went to Spencers and not HT. But they both have invader zim stuff and as for its popularity--it has a bunch of recent comics and a netflix film from a few years ago. Theres still a dedicated fandom also lol i see a lot of ocs of those little green fuckers

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Alex · July 21, 2025

I always love the commentary about the officer class.

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SouthpawFL · July 21, 2025

Not karaoke but I earned a little street cred in school as the white kid who could do Big Pun's "dead in the middle of little Italy" bar without a hitch.

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Thad · July 21, 2025

US soldier: buys Dodge Charger at 23% interest. Roman soldier: buys literal four-legged equine Charger at 23% interest.

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Jonathan Sutter · July 21, 2025

Fukin beat me to it lol, i was gonna go with the mustang myself

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Al · July 21, 2025

What if Cologne was a chariot dealership

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Page Chase · July 21, 2025

So, awkward karaoke faux pas: requesting not only a long song, but a long song that is mostly instrumental. My friend Paolo once did Blue Monday by New Order and just watching the color drain from his face when he realized that it was going to be another minute or two of just the hook in karaoke-MIDI drum machine and he just kind of stood there and nodded his head awkwardly. My go-to karaoke song is "Don't Stop Believin'" by Journey. And being Filipina, I could not go to any family gathering without someone shoving a mic in my hand and somehow ending up doing a full set of songs by The Carpenters. If I truly wanted to get my Eris, goddess of discord on, I would have asked my Titos who does "My Way" by Sinatra better and to come up and sing it. The ensuing bloodbath would have been legendary.

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Al · July 21, 2025

Don't Stop Believing is a good one. I made the mistake one time of going to karaoke with a bunch of emo indie band guys and it was all heroin addition ballads and breakup songs.

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Hammerthrust Von Sexron · July 21, 2025

Phil the Arab was my favorite character in that Guy Ritchie movie about that heist.

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Saint Muerte · July 21, 2025

Goto Karaoke song is "Just a Friend" by Biz Markie. Always a crowd pleaser.

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Thomas Layton · July 21, 2025

Corpse infrastructure almost saving the day!

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Hey mind your business, name's not important · July 20, 2025

Joe is being very polite about the things outside the military base. The cheap furniture store, several tattoo shops, the porn shop, barber shops and the high interest car dealerships.

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I_like_planes_and_cities · July 21, 2025

Don’t forget at least one Indian restaurant and divorce lawyer.

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Radio Free Covenant · July 20, 2025

All my buboes gone.

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Star maker 75 · July 20, 2025

"It is never a good time to go hiking in the swamp with 100,000 of your friends and two Emperors" Where goes my plans if you said that an bad plan

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LensWipe · July 20, 2025

RE: Goth Stuff - my girlfriend likes most of what was mentioned lol

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Bryant Mitchell · July 20, 2025

I think Joe got Spencer's and Hot topic mixed up

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Kaiju and Chill · July 20, 2025

Yup. I used to manage a Spencers. Got it all the time that we where the gothic store. I'm like we sell the smelly gothic stuff, not the big tittied gothic girl stuff. Dragons Meh, that's what happens when half the clients think childs play is actually called "Chuckie".

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Nate Bech · July 20, 2025

First!

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Radio Free Covenant · July 20, 2025

Second?