February 16, 2025

EARLY EPISODE: The 410AD Sack of Rome

Joe is joined by the Zoo Crew to talk about the time Rome hosted the world's largest Goth convention.

Sources:

Zosimus. New History

Michael Kulikowski. Rome's Gothic Wars: From the Third Century to Alaric.

Ludwig Heinrich Dyck. The Goth Sack of Rome: Barbarians at the Gate in 410 AD. Military Heritage. Volume 7, no 2. 2005.

Herwig Wolfram. The Roman Empire and Its Germanic Peoples.

The Cambridge Ancient History Volume 13

Comments (38)

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Mourning Run · March 4, 2025

Great episode. Commercial hvac is where it’s at . Local 17 saved my life

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Thaddeus Blanchette · February 24, 2025

I would absolutely love to field the Doug the Donkey figure in a 40K game, just to piss off all the fascist nutters. Unfortunately, the boys made it in 54mm and most games are 28mm. Any chance of getting a 28mm Doug the Donkey?

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Mildly invested · February 24, 2025

Best part in response the Byzantines just built more wall

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Mildly invested · March 3, 2025

Also this is just goth repo men

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Paloma · February 18, 2025

“Armenia is the Boston of the Roman empire” is not something I expected to hear on LLBD, but in hindsight, I definitely should have expected it.

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Steven · February 18, 2025

Praise Wall!!!

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nasklaf · February 18, 2025

Wall for the wall God!

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Jonathan Grafton · February 25, 2025

Rebar for the rebar throne

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Al · February 17, 2025

Artisan Slaughter from Grinted.

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Harles Barkley · February 17, 2025

There's a Walluigi joke here somewhere

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Jonathan Sutter · February 17, 2025

You guys missed the perfect opportunity to rip on Morrisey in the intro...he is such a collosal douchebag

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Jonathan Sutter · February 21, 2025

I gotta say, saving ripping on him for midcast was a masterstroke. I listened again without all the background noise in my shop...well fuckin done

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Noblese Oblahaj · February 17, 2025

It's really, really funny that all the Western Civilization Rome Guys see Rome as this homogenous pillar of white culture but Rome was doing 4th dimensional racism against itself

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Noblese Oblahaj · February 17, 2025

Rome has been sacked more times than Patrick Mahomes

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Hunter S · February 17, 2025

Goths was a pretty good Mountain Goats album

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Karl Åström · February 17, 2025

Wall: One W forwards, two L's back

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Jonathan Grafton · February 17, 2025

The Legion of Wallachia

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Pat D · February 17, 2025

There's a chain of convenience stores here in Australia that sells Faygo.

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Glorytothedead · February 17, 2025

“Don’t cut the benefits of guys who can do organized violences” (checks news in the US) oh boy this is gonna be interesting lol

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Jonathan Grafton · February 17, 2025

Rome doesn't get teabagged, it gets potato sacked

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Nick Anderson · February 16, 2025

As an electrician Joe keeps me going as a professional! I love you guys! You and the zoo crew and Nate and all the homies make me laugh.

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Chase Jackson · February 16, 2025

The Stillicho pronunciation feels like a hammer to the temple lol

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kliachichka · February 17, 2025

Look it's been too long since we've had a horrible pronunciation from Joe, he even managed to get through the Mstislav episode without one

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ruin · February 16, 2025

Cradle of Filth is not a goth band

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audrey · April 16, 2025

😭😭 glad im not the only pedantic genre knower here

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heffa · February 16, 2025

It's not a dead rat in the walls, it's just Nick's corpse

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Kyle Desseau · February 16, 2025

I'm a professional domestic spelunker. Good times. Praise wall.

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Jeremiah Haupt · February 16, 2025

Every bonus episode is a reminder that the money is worth it

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Gil the Gilded Dragon · February 16, 2025

Praise? You mean Raise!

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Radio Free Covenant · February 16, 2025

Like Rome, I want to be destroyed by a goth.

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Mutual Aid Miniatures · February 16, 2025

Seeing cradle of filth live was fun because Danny Filth is very short and wears very thick soled boots to compensate. It is never not funny to see.

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Matt · February 16, 2025

Edward Watts wrote a book on the history of the idea of “Rome fell in 410”, which I think I need to read at some point. Also, at this point I would not be surprised at all if “are you now or have you ever been a fan of ICP” is asked at a Senate hearing.

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Brandon O'Hara · February 16, 2025

Zoo Crew! Zoo Crew! Zoo Crew!

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iDoTechOK · February 16, 2025

I feel like I'm gonna have to start some kind of narrative here to defend my love of goth music early Goth music by the way I'm old as shit

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heffa · February 16, 2025

I stand beside you, Brother!! ✊ It's kinda funny, listening to 3 guys who are all younger than me, whinge about music like octogenarian nimbys 😁

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Nick Fontaine · February 16, 2025

So when's the "Sopping wet" merch drop?

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Thomas Layton · February 16, 2025

Somehow it all comes down to wall

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Taylor Russell · February 16, 2025

I think I would definitely say cradle of filth is infinitely better than Nirvana musically but both suck