EARLY EPISODE: The New York Draft Riots of 1863
Conscription, it turns out, is very unpopular.
Sources:
https://press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/317749.html&title=The+New+York+City+Draft+Riots+of+1863&desc
Beard, Rick. City Under Siege: The New York Draft Riots
https://www.history.com/topics/american-civil-war/draft-riots
https://history.nycourts.gov/case/court-cases-related-to-the-new-york-city-draft-riots-1863/
Dupree, A. Hunter and Leslie H. Fishel, Jr. "An Eyewitness Account of the New York Draft Riots, July, 1863"
Anbinder, Tyler. "Which Poor Man’s Fight?: Immigrants and the Federal Conscription of 1863."
Comments (44)
Copperheads are docile, and not water snakes. Nate is confusing copperheads with cottonmouths.
Ummm you failed to mention the guy directing the New York Times Gatling gun was WINSTON CHURCHILL’S GRANDFATHER!
I just noticed the robotic “Lions Led by Donkeys” in the bagpipe intro 🫡
I deployed with an IRR Marine who I had just seen EAS a few months before. "I miss doing coke with my wife in Colorado." That was a rough hand he was delt.
Firefighters joining the riots and starting fires is one of the most on brand things I have heard
I have extended family who like to play up their Cherokee heritage (we have none to my knowledge and we're pasty white). My sister once said, during one of these times, if it can't be used for a scholarship, it doesn't count. Got a lot of stink eyes from family that day.
Cool thing about German immigrant enlistments in places like Missouri (where they were referred to as Dutch by Scotch-Irish and Anglos) is that they were largely very staunch abolitionists who stopped the entirety of the state from being lost to Rebel ding dongs galavanting on horseback - your General Price and such. I guess a large population of the Germans were failed revolutionaries from 1830s-1848, pretty radical dudes. It’s an interesting contrast to immigrant reactionary behaviors. Nate’s aside about southern Indiana vs Great Lake Midwest made me think of that. Missouri is definitely very similar in that regard.
Here in Texas, the only counties that voted against secession were the counties that were overwhelmingly German. This didn't go unnoticed by the CSA, which unfortunately led to the CSA rolling through these German-speaking towns and forcing men at gunpoint to join the army. Some tried (and failed) to escape to Mexico, leading to the Nueces Massacre (Wikipedia has a good entry on it). My several-times-great-grandfather on my mom's side was one of the men that joined in lieu of execution. The family legend we heard growing up was that none of his fellow German-speaking regiment wanted anything to do with this war, and immediately surrendered to the first Union troops they came across when they were sent to reinforce Vicksburg.
Random I love the new opening music
What a coincidence, the name of my new punk band is The Teds Nugent.
When Hong Christ, the Dicksucking Union, and the LLBD Death Note show up in the same episode, you know it’s going to be a good episode.
Nate where tf have you not lived??
It's like professions that Joe hasn't worked.
Best part of being on a hurling team in New York State is getting to assault NYPD officers and not getting arrested for it.
There are some advantages to being a New Yorker in 1860s
Nate's 2 day Santiago trip with 5 leg flights to racking up like 1.5 years of per capita carbon emissions for keeping to 1.5 degrees warming threshold. Biggest outstanding area of cognitive dissonance among otherwise conscientious people
There are 90,00 people permanently suspended above US airspace. Some commute for work on a damn plane. Pick a different hill to die on.
If Gary Busey buttfucked Ted Nugent, Kid Rock is what would shoot out his ass and on to the floor.
Incredible comment to read with no context.
Tom calling Robbie Keane a terrible footballer… Tom don’t know ball…
Can confirm, the confederate declarations of secession all said “we want to keep slavery and we’re scared Lincoln will try to ban it”. The Civil War was over slavery, period.
As a person who lives in Valdosta Georgia and have gone to the battle reenactments before, like the one close to me, Battle of Olustee. The confederate actors, majority of them still believe America went wrong by telling individuals you can’t own people anymore as property. Don’t go to civil war reenactments anymore because of people like that.
Okay but Maureen Dowd on a crew served weapon is objectively hilarious
When y’all started talking about firefighters at the end where they would put out the fires they started made me think of like a mad max version of after the bombs fall in Fahrenheit 451. Those firefighters that used to only start fires now roam as a gang with one tube of flamethrower and one tube of water and threaten every settlement they find. A mad max souped up insano monster truck firefighting engine is a must too.
To be fair. If you made it till your 80s in the 19th century. You are probably a stern individual with no health problems and you are probably in pretty decent shape compared to 40 year old day laborers
What if instead of Gangs of New York, Leonardo DiCaprio’s character is played by Waluigi and the final fight scene instead of charging with homemade weapons, it rainbow road Mario kart with muskets and knives.
aw man shout out to the trans folks who name themselves affter anime characters like thats normal
Chicago > NY. Burned to the ground. Was rebuilt with city planning in mind.
Sundays are for football. And new LLBD drops.
Jordan Love would engage in a draft riot and that is why he is QB
Wasn't the bbc america show copper using this as a background
Yep. And Warrior did as well
Fdny cut through an open roll up gate of mine. No locks, wasn’t stuck in place. Wasn’t needed to gain access to anything. If all you have is a gas powered diamond tipped circular saw, everything’s fair game.
If you give firefighters an excuse to break shit they absolutely will
As a Minnesotan I’m mightily impressed by Tom’s familiarity with the city of Bumfuck, Iowa.
Whites to the Irish: "you are on this council, but we do not award you the rank of honkey"
The aromatic era of NYC, The Gags of New York
The Big Stinky Apple
Would you believe me if I told you that in Ukraine our dumbass government has been floating around the idea of buying your way out of the draft for like a year. Worked great last time guys
They've floated this idea in Armenia as well
From the historical documentary Gangs of New York??
I just watched that highly accurate documentary last week.
General Wool was one of Generals who oversaw the Trail of Tears... so he did infact support genocide.
Insert Gangs of New York references here*