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July 8, 2024

EARLY EPISODE: The Whiskey Rebellion

Bad tax law nearly recreates the American Revolution a few years after the last one.

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Sources:

William Hogeland. The Whiskey Rebellion: George Washington, Alexander Hamilton, and the Frontier Rebels Who Challenged America's Newfound Sovereignty.

 https://www.battlefields.org/learn/articles/whiskey-rebellion

John Allen Miller. How Whiskey Almost Started a War. https://www.emmitsburg.net/archive_list/articles/history/rev_war/whiskey.htm

https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/george-washingtons-proclamation-whiskey-rebellion

Comments (43)

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Tay · June 29, 2026

American history is such a weird mix of the most fucked up violence you've ever heard of and "hey guys this is your official notice to disband your rebellion by the stated date or you will not be eligible for pardons"

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Alex Veley · January 24, 2025

The joke about Prestor John being who a medieval peasant would need to see to get a contract signed is what made me become a patreon subscriber. Loved relistening to this.

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The *spooOOOoouwuOooOkily* woman-shaped Pharmacist · August 24, 2024

Diversity Win!: the protests against the whiskey tax are trans-inclusive

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dase · July 17, 2024

Neubauten rule and were also the most German band I've ever seen live.

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Gabriel Laycock · July 15, 2024

Does Tom have a Stealie tattoo?

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Brian Azevedo · July 14, 2024

I too am a post punk child of the 1980’s… Einsturzende Neubauten helped deform my frontal lobe

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NO THAT IS NOT SOLID SNAKE · July 13, 2024

Talking as a long time listener, I wish you guys would stay on topic more as I get a headache trying to follow the picture you are weaving, this is an issue my partner has too, and overall the information ends up going in one ear out the other. I like a tangent every now and then, but I've found that you guys go on tangents in the middle of the narrative to the point I forget about the actual historical summary and get whiplash when you guys go back to being a history podcast. That being said, I love the energy you guys have together and the synergy, just want the podcast to be a bit more streamlined. Love you guys still, appreciate the ADHD representation, but as someone who has the disorder, it only scrambles my brain even more!

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Tyrone Slothrust · July 13, 2024

Also chiming in here to say Neubaten and Steely Dan both own, I was listening to NPR last weekend and they did a thing on Pretzel Logic at fifty in which the critic derided Gaucho as “bloodless” and I got mad because one, fuck you nerd and then I felt a deep and loving pity– pietas in the liturgical Greek– for a man who had clearly never taken cocaine and fucked a nineteen year old.

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UnambiguousHandle · July 12, 2024

Brandon Sanderson is head and shoulders above any other author I've read when it comes to world building, you're selling him short Joe.

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Greg Kinsella · July 12, 2024

I laughed way too hard at the Neubauten jokes.

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Joran Groothengel · July 11, 2024

Joe is really integrating well here, hating Amsterdam and complaining about prices. In a few months he'll be sending Tikkies to split drinks and exclusively using diseases as swearwords.

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Fuzzwork · July 11, 2024

As someone with family from Bolton England, I can confirm that much of it still looks post apocalypse

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Kevin Bodel · July 10, 2024

The band is Crime and the City Solution.

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unsurprising · July 9, 2024

I enjoy the sound of early German industrial music... in small doses. Mostly I listened to like one track from every act mentioned in Alex Reed's "Assimilate" and was like "oh whoa that's why they originally called it 'industrial'. incredible sounds." and then immediately went back to listening to the most derivative post/witch house.

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Tomas Juarez · July 9, 2024

Tar and feathering didn’t use what we think of today when we hear tar. It wasn’t tar used for roads it was pine tar used for rope making. It would hold the ends of rope together. It wasn’t boiling hot when poured on someone it was more like pouring syrup on someone

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ruin · July 8, 2024

Einstürzende Neubauten is good. They inspired me to start welding up some mad max ass scrap metal instruments.

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Jack McReynolds · July 8, 2024

Considering that various folk styles of wrestling were very prevalent in the colonies having a 1700's Mayor Mike Hagar was probably a lot more likely than at any other time in American history.

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Nicholas Kidd · July 8, 2024

So I looked up what a steeplejack is and found this on YouTube. Adjusted for inflation this dude was making 33k pounds to take that thing down a brick at a time. Fuck that. https://youtu.be/NKPApAsJbj4?si=Lv_DGpm1uPzJu7yq

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Ben Schwabe · July 8, 2024

I'm an industrial music fan but honestly never got to into Einstürzende Neubauten. Perhaps because i can never remember how to spell or say their name. Also they didn't make sexy dance music like My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult. Also Steely Dan is really, really, really boring for a band that named themselves after a steam powered dildo from Naked Lunch.

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ruin · July 9, 2024

I too was disappointed by Steely Dan's music after reading Naked Lunch

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Noblese Oblahaj · July 8, 2024

Trust only your fists, Hamilton will never help you

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Teeheemcweewee · July 8, 2024

All my homies hate Bert

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Bootystomper The Dangerous · July 8, 2024

My old grad school professors have an American history podcast called “The Whiskey Rebellion” which LLBD is *significantly* more popular than… which is to say, y’all made it.

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Noblese Oblahaj · July 8, 2024

Matter of time before modesty is weaponized and police start putting images of goatxe on their riot shields to disperse zoomer protests

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Boone Pulliam · July 8, 2024

Steely Dan is in no way comparable to the Grateful Dead. They're so much better IMO.

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Olafo Waffle · July 8, 2024

And you are correct. Unfortunately they're associated with the most douchebag activity out there, yachting.

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MerusMetraton · July 8, 2024

Joe revealing his great-grandfather was the milk man was pure gold, his comedic timing is getting even better. Also, Nate's Van Wilder pull shows that he is truly a man of culture.

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Brendan Bonner · July 8, 2024

That Rangers joke💀

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Bruise · July 8, 2024

I actually work at a distillery named after Philip Wigle. Glad you guys finally did this episode!

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FishTank · July 8, 2024

Neville tried to go out like Bill Cooper, but we hadn't invented the ATF yet

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Cretin · July 8, 2024

"European prices make no sense" Proceeds to compare Paris with rural Germany

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Aaron Zimmerman · July 8, 2024

My shitty little hometown finally makes the pod 🥲

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Joe Wakefield · July 8, 2024

Tom, take the Dan pill

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Hey mind your business, name's not important · July 8, 2024

He won't regret it.

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Tyrone Slothrust · July 8, 2024

Aw hell yeah I can listen to this one at work!

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Tyrone Slothrust · July 8, 2024

and then we got to Van Wilder, well it was a good run

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Page Chase · July 8, 2024

So about the sewn up anti-fucking cocoon... like they did this knowing that every girl grew up knowing how to sew, right? I'm pretty sure it would be possible to re-sew it before morning.

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heffa · July 8, 2024

I had a skim through the Wiki entry on Bundling Bags and it's supposed to be one large bag for both occupants, with a seam stitched up the middle between them. Not impossible to overcome but close to it

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Kurgaah · July 8, 2024

Gotta watch The Wire if you think The Shield is an honest representation of American police

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Olafo Waffle · July 8, 2024

The shield was created based in part of the rampart scandal

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LeobaL · July 8, 2024

Whenever I express my firmly held opinion that Washington would have fought with the Confederacy, people always bring this up as evidence that supposedly proves me wrong. So I'm going to be interested to hear a better coverage than my bare bones knowledge.

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19ZXB Donkey brains · July 8, 2024

Bout time with this one! That being said, thanks.

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nughh · July 8, 2024

The Zim Dollar crashes through the wall: Heard you guys were talking Extreme inflation rendering the local currency worthless but didn’t invite me. Bit rude don’t you think?